Julian Assange Discussion

I keep wondering why Trump hasn't been helping out. Perhaps one possibility is that helping Assange could risk him the 2020 election, I mean, the MSM would go nuts calling him a 'traitor'.

Well, it seems that Trump was against Assange/Wikileaks long before the election. There is a video from 2010 where he called Wikileaks "disgraceful" and suggested that there should be "a death penalty or something", fwiw.

 
Has anyone come across any more info on Manning? Is there an information black-out, so it doesn't interfere with Assange's Court case?
The last media reports on Manning were from May.


May 16, 2019 - Chelsea Manning ordered back to jail for defying grand jury subpoena (Video)
Chelsea Manning ordered back to jail for defying grand jury subpoena
There's been a virtual blackout on any reporting on Manning. The only news I've seen has been from Twitter supporters trying to keep the case in front of people.

"A mainstream media blackout continues for any and all reporting on the persecution of journalist Julian Assange and whistleblower Chelsea Manning. The ruling establishment is in the process of completely criminalizing all forms of truth-telling."


"With all this talk of whistleblowers, not a bad time to remind people it’s day 225 of Chelsea Manning
@xychelsea's incarceration with $116,000 in fines ($1000 added daily). It can go on for 1.5 years per grand jury, but they can reconvene grand juries as often as they want."

Except, of course, for the blessed RT account:

"REMINDER: Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning (who exposed war crimes, corruption and human rights abuses) are in jail. George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Dick Cheney and others who oversaw these crimes are not in prison. 'Rules-based international order'
🙃

"

I guess they want to keep the focus on Assange. There have also been smatterings about Reality Winner.
 
As we can see a "whistleblower" definition seems to be up for grabs now. Is a whistleblower to be praised or cursed as a traitor?

Whistleblower Protection Programs Dept. of Labor

Whistleblower (Official Site) Watch on CBS

Office of the Whistleblower Securities and Exchange Commission

Whistleblower - Informant Award Internal Revenue Service

I all depends on Quid pro quo I think.

If the whistleblower helps your team's objective, fine but if it goes against one's own agenda then a whistleblower becomes a "traitor".

I'm sure this is not headline news or anything...:-(
 
Manning's incarceration and fines are ongoing; over 225 days and $116,000 now:

Thanks Ryan - for the reply, much appreciated! :-)

Fines and incarceration - for WHAT? That's so off-the-wall that I'm almost speechless. None of this whole situation, from the time Manning was placed in isolation, to the reports that Bradley was now Chelsea, to the suicide attempts in prison, to being granted "a Pardon"
by none other then, a fake imposter-n-chief in the WH? The asylum is truly being run by a bunch of rag-tag gangsters!


There's been a virtual blackout on any reporting on Manning. The only news I've seen has been from Twitter supporters trying to keep the case in front of people.

Except, of course, for the blessed RT account:

Thanks Herondancer, appreciate the updated info! :-) I don't get on Twitter much - more into hard-copy through articles & media press.

I guess they want to keep the focus on Assange. There have also been smatterings about Reality Winner.

Herondancer, I must have missed the boat - when it sailed off dock, so I'm going to show my ignorance and ask ... What are you referring too ... about "Reality Winner"? I'm out of the loop - on that one?

At one point, wasn't there a discussion about Assange having sent out encrypted info/files to select individuals and he would send "a code" to unlock them - in the event he was in danger? Maybe the surprise break-in to the Embassy and his abrupt arrest prevented him from releasing "code"?

What's happening to both Assange and Manning - makes no logical sense, to me. For some strange notion, I have a sense that this situation ties in with Epstein, in some way? O.K., they claim Epstein is dead - so he's out of the picture, so to speak. Epstein was into gun running and laundering money with shades of the Middle East involved. The main thing they came after Assange about was showing the film from Iraq that Manning provided. Is it possible - Assange and Manning "are in protective custody" on Trump's Order's - reason Trump wants him extradited to the U.S. (where Manning is located) ... and are "to be witnesses" in Grand Jury testimony, along with evidence from Epstein - to finally indict the Clinton's, Bush's et al? With the possibility, Assange and Manning would be pardoned and exonerated by Trump and hopefully given some type of monetary compensation? I know, it's a wild dream but I can't reconcile any other scenario?
 
Don't know if this petition has come up before, but here's the latest:
We must act now to save Julian Assange and the Rule of Law
Paul Craig Roberts

UPDATE:

At the present time, currently 4PM US East Coast time on October 28, 2019, there are at this minute 4,792 readers in 81 countries reading my website, www.paulcraigroberts.org

During October, a quarter of a million people have made a half million visits to this website. These are only the visits to this website. The number does not include the visits to my columns carried on scores of other websites both in English and in Foreign translation where my writings are republished.

Yet, in the past two days as of 4pm today, only 450 people have signed the petition to free Julian Assange from his unlawful imprisonment that is posted on my website.

Surely my readers can do better than that.

If we cannot save Julian Assange, we cannot save ourselves.

The reason that the US Constitution protects free speech and press freedom is to ensure that government can be held accountable. In Assange’s persecution, this protection is being broken. If the Anglo-American attack on Assange succeeds, law will cease to serve as a shield of the people and become a weapon in the hands of government.

We will have descended into the Age of Tyranny.

For Julian Assange’s sake, and for your sakes and mine, go sign the petition: We must act now to save Julian Assange and the Rule of Law - PaulCraigRoberts.org


Dear Readers: If the millions who read my website will sign this petition with their name and their country, you will have made an effort to save Julian Assange from death at the hands of the Anglo-American criminal gang who are determined to remove the accountability of government to law and to the people. The continued existence of a rule of law in the Western World and of government accountable to law depends on our ability to defend and free Julian Assange.

If you value civil liberty, go to my website—www.paulcraigroberts.org —click “contact,” put “petition to save Julian Assange” in the “your subject” line, and in your message, copy and past the petition below.

If we cannot save Julian Assange, we cannot save ourselves.

To her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II

To the House of Lords

To the House of Commons

We the undersigned respectfully call on the appropriate authorities of the United Kingdom to immediately release Julian Assange, citizen of Australia and Ecuador, from Belmarsh prison where he is being unjustly and cruelly incarcerated.

Julian Assange is not charged with any crime or even misdemeanor in Britain, and has fully served his sentence for his single offense: jumping bail to avoid extradition to the United States via Sweden. He was not and is not charged for any crime in Sweden. The sole charges against him originate in the United States, on purely political grounds, aimed at punishing Julian Assange for publication of accurate information provided by informed sources. This is a regular practice of all mainstream media, which now shamefully fail to speak out in defense of Mr. Assange, even when they published exactly the same information that he did.

It is quite clear that in their current treatment of Julian Assange, the United Kingdom is debasing itself as a mere instrument of political repression exercised by the United States. Our confidence in the judicial system and in the media is very seriously shaken.

Your Majesty, Members of Parliament,

The current imprisonment of Julian Assange is a blot on the nation’s judicial system, a disgrace to British decency. This scandal may be largely hidden today but will surely emerge in history unless measures are taken immediately by the highest representatives of the British people to correct this major injustice.

We appeal to your sense of justice and of national honor to uphold the best traditions of British democracy and respect for human rights by immediately freeing Julian Assange.

Respectfully,

We must act now to save Julian Assange and the Rule of Law - PaulCraigRoberts.org
Signed and submitted. We've also descended into the Age of Tranny. The crazy continues.
 
Finally some Australian parliamentarians are starting to speak up for Julian. I hope it's not too late, and I hope it isn't just a ploy. Though independents seem to take on issues that party politicians leave alone.

"Prior to the announcement, Wilkie, a former military intelligence officer who resigned in March 2003 in order to publicly condemn the looming illegal US-led invasion of Iraq, said that if extradited to the US, Assange “faces serious human rights violations including exposure to torture and a dodgy trial.”

The independent MP declared that Assange was being pursued for exposing war crimes, and stated: “This has serious implications for freedom of speech and freedom of the press here in Australia, because if we allow a foreign country to charge an Australian citizen for revealing war crimes, then no Australian journalist or publisher can ever be confident that the same thing won’t happen to them.”

Wilkie is co-chair of the group alongside National Party MP George Christensen. Other members are Nationals’ parliamentarian and former deputy prime minister Barnaby Joyce; Rebekha Sharkie and Rex Patrick from the Centre Alliance; Labor MP’s Julian Hill and Steve Georganas; Greens leader Richard Di Natale, deputy leader Adam Bandt and senator Peter Whish-Wilson, and independent MP Zali Steggall.
 
Finally some Australian parliamentarians are starting to speak up for Julian. I hope it's not too late, and I hope it isn't just a ploy. Though independents seem to take on issues that party politicians leave alone.

Well it’s about time. I’m appalled at the lack of support from Australian politicians, though not surprised (being the vassal state of the US that we are). I too hope something comes out of it, time will tell. Since the raids on the ABC offices in Sydney, it seems like the media & journalists here are increasingly concerned about Govt. overreach and censorship. John Pilger is vocal about Assange’s plight, but It would be nice to see journalists rally to his cause too.
 
Assange needs to he arrested because the last government made it official that he is a threat to National Security. If it wasn't for [them], he would be hosting his own YouTube news show, but now we have to drag him through a legal exoneration process that starts with a charge.

@turiya ,

I don't think the process is that "legal" and if anyone is exonerated it will be the deep state.

"we have to drag him" wonder who that "we" is...:rolleyes:

And what is that wonderful "legal" court he will be tried in...

Eastern District Court of Virginia
The Eastern District Court of Virginia is housed in Richmond. It is also known as the Rocket Docket because of the speed with which cases go to trial. For many years, the Eastern District Court of Virginia has had one of the fastest trial dockets in the country.

The federal government is represented by the US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, who also manages a national initiative called Project Safe Neighborhoods by the US Department of Justice to reduce gun violence. This is important because one of the priorities of this initiative is heightened prosecution of federal offenses, particularly firearm offenses (insert link to Fed Gun lawyer page here).

The Eastern District of Virginia has courthouses in:

  • Alexandria
  • Newport News
  • Norfolk
  • Richmond
Any appeals from the Eastern District Court of Virginia are taken to the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, which is located in Richmond.

When you have a "need for speed" just take your case to the Rocket Docket.

Many law firms specialize in cases taken to the Rocket Docket such as this one:

Rocket Docket Practice (US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia)
For years, the US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) has been among the fastest federal courts in the country. Commonly known as the Rocket Docket, the EDVA boasts an average time of 11 months from “file to trial.” Parties have only a short time to complete discovery, and many motions must be briefed and argued with just a few days’ notice. Even objections to discovery must be filed much earlier than the Federal Rules or most other courts require.
....

Additionally, our trial lawyers participate with EDVA judges and other legal professionals in Rocket Docket instructional programs and have published articles about EDVA practice in Law360.

It's the perfect place to send a case that you want to get out of the way fast.

Take for example how well this district court processed Paul Manafort's case:

Why Paul Manafort's Trial Is Going So Fast
There is no dillydallying in the trial of Paul Manafort.

Jury selection lasted but a few hours. The federal judge presiding over the case has repeatedly reminded the lawyers of his impatience and routinely interrupts their questioning of witnesses to speed them up. The most dramatic part of the trial has quickly come and gone. The whole thing could be over in three weeks, leaving plenty of time before Donald Trump’s former campaign chairman has to stand a second trial on separate charges in September.



High-profile trials of deep-pocketed defendants can often drag on for months. But Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s initial prosecution of Manafort on charges of financial fraud is moving briskly along, and its speedy pace is largely due to the particular federal district court where the case is being tried.

This kind of gives a whole new meaning to a quick and speedy trial. Unless Julian is miraculously being guarded by some mysterious "White Hats" and is a witness at a military tribunal instead of the Rocket Docket it doesn't bode well as I see it.
 
@turiya has posted this in the Q source / Qanon thread. I think it could also be relevant here. Whether the Patriots and Q are behind these revelations is to be determined I suppose.

Patriots vs the Deep State

  • Julian Assange is a risk to CIA interests,
  • The initial operations to target Flynn, Papadopoulos and Page were all based overseas. This seemingly makes the CIA exploitation of the assets and the targets much easier.
  • One of the more interesting aspects to the Durham probe is a possibility of a paper-trail created as a result of the tasking operations.
  • However, there is an aspect to the domestic U.S. operation that also bears the fingerprints of the CIA; only this time due to the restrictive laws on targets inside the U.S. the CIA aspect is less prominent. This is where FBI Agent Peter Strzok working for both agencies starts to become important.

  • The CIA was openly involved in constructing a political operation that settled upon anyone in candidate Donald Trump’s orbit.

  • All of this engagement directly controlled by U.S. intelligence; and all of this intended to give a specific Russia impression. This predicate is presumably what John Durham is currently reviewing.
  • The key point of all that background is to see how committed the CIA and FBI were to the constructed narrative of Russia interfering with the 2016 election. The CIA, FBI, and by extension the DOJ, put a hell of a lot of work into it. Intelligence community work that Durham is now unraveling.
  • We also know specifically that John Durham is looking at the construct of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA); and talking to CIA analysts who participated in the construct of the January 2017 report that bolstered the false appearance of Russian interference in the 2016 election. This is important because it involves Julian Assange and Wikileaks.
  • On April 11th, 2019, the Julian Assange indictment was unsealed in the EDVA. From the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018:

  • On Tuesday April 15th more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to….
  • The FBI investigation took place prior to December 2017, it was coordinated through the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) where Dana Boente was U.S. Attorney at the time. The grand jury indictment was sealed from March of 2018 until after Mueller completed his investigation, April 2019.
  • Why the delay?
  • What was the DOJ waiting for?
  • Here’s where it gets interesting….
  • The FBI submission to the Grand Jury in December of 2017 was four months after congressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Julian Assange in August of 2017: “Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.”
  • Julian Assange told a U.S. congressman he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents he published during last year’s election did not come from Russia and promised additional helpful information about the leaks in the near future.
  • Knowing how much effort the CIA and FBI put into the Russia collusion-conspiracy narrative, it would make sense for the FBI to take keen interest after this August 2017 meeting between Rohrabacher and Assange; and why the FBI would quickly gather specific evidence (related to Wikileaks and Bradley Manning) for a grand jury by December 2017.
  • Within three months of the grand jury the DOJ generated an indictment and sealed it in March 2018. The EDVA sat on the indictment while the Mueller probe was ongoing.
  • As soon as the Mueller probe ended, on April 11th, 2019, a planned and coordinated effort between the U.K. and U.S. was executed; Julian Assange was forcibly arrested and removed from the Ecuadorian embassy in London,
  • The Weissmann/Mueller report contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview, and by Julian Assange on-the-record statements.

  • The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim. The FBI holds a massive interest in maintaining that claim. All of those foreign countries whose intelligence apparatus participated with Brennan and Strzok also have a vested self-interest in maintaining that Russia hacking and interference narrative.
  • Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.

  • Now, if we know this, well then, certainly AG Bill Barr knows this, the patriots are keeping him safe, the patriots need Assange, the [DS] on the other hand would like to 187 just like Seth Rich and Epstein.
Source: theconservativetreehouse.com

Flynn Ready To Go Free, Egregious Government Misconduct, Covfefe, In The End We Win - Episode 2012b
X22Report

Nov 4, 2019
 
I somewhat recently saw an interview of George Papadopoulos on the internet. He was so set up!!! He said the never ending legal expenses being incurred was what finally got him to plead guilty - which the DS knows is a very effective tactic that was also used against other Trump campaign team members. And Flynn was obviously railroaded as well.

FYI: In the interview, George stated his financee (now his wife), Simona Mangiante, suffered a miscarriage after her lengthy interrogation by Mueller's team.

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"Mrs. Papadopoulos, an Italian-trained attorney and former employee at the European Parliament in Brussels, underwent nearly three hours of questioning by federal agents at FBI headquarters in Chicago last year following a subpoena issued by special counsel Robert Mueller."

Despite being engaged to this very beautiful woman, the DS operatives tried to lure him into a 'honey trap' as well - they failed.
After their whirlwind romance, which started with a LinkedIn message from him to her during late 2016, Mangiante Papadopoulos said the couple remained in limbo in Chicago.

"It went from paradise to hell," she said of their lives since he became embroiled in the Russia/collusion investigation.

They have been unable to find work, she said, because a legal and public relations hammer was hanging overhead. For financial reasons they recently moved from a River West apartment back to his mother's home on the Northwest Side, Mangiante Papadopoulos told the I-Team.

"We deal with a lot of stress, there is not much, mostly George can do. He can't work. He can't interact with anyone related indirectly to Trump," she said. "His life is on hold. And it's very difficult, when you're a young person building your career. Our finances are terrible. No, zero, zero income."


The following is the interview I saw in which Papadopoulos talks about his book, Deep State Target: How I Got Caught in the Crosshairs of the Plot to Bring Down President Trump - Parts One and Two:
The first of a special two-part edition of The Mark Steyn Show in which Mark talks with George Papadopoulos, the first Trump campaign member to plead "guilty" in the Mueller investigation. Mr Papadopoulos has set down his account of what happened these last four years of his life in a new book called Deep State Target - about how a Beltway think-tank wonk was set up as the "mark" of multiple high-level well-connected figures from America, Britain, Italy, Australia and elsewhere.

With yesterday's appointment of a new prosecutor, John Durham, to investigate the origins of the FBI's "Crossfire Hurricane" (the "counter-intelligence" operation that targeted Trump campaign staffers) the Papadopoulos story is more relevant than ever.

If you want to know more about how "Crossfire Hurricane" got cooked up, George's book is available (for the moment) at Amazon - https://amzn.to/2LHiPsP.



I can only hope that sooner rather than later, justice will be served.
 
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