Well, it seems that Trump was against Assange/Wikileaks long before the election. There is a video from 2010 where he called Wikileaks "disgraceful" and suggested that there should be "a death penalty or something", fwiw.
Julian Assange Discussion
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Well, it seems that Trump was against Assange/Wikileaks long before the election. There is a video from 2010 where he called Wikileaks "disgraceful" and suggested that there should be "a death penalty or something", fwiw.
There's been a virtual blackout on any reporting on Manning. The only news I've seen has been from Twitter supporters trying to keep the case in front of people.
"A mainstream media blackout continues for any and all reporting on the persecution of journalist Julian Assange and whistleblower Chelsea Manning. The ruling establishment is in the process of completely criminalizing all forms of truth-telling."
"With all this talk of whistleblowers, not a bad time to remind people it’s day 225 of Chelsea Manning
@xychelsea's incarceration with $116,000 in fines ($1000 added daily). It can go on for 1.5 years per grand jury, but they can reconvene grand juries as often as they want."
Except, of course, for the blessed RT account:
"REMINDER: Julian Assange and Chelsea Manning (who exposed war crimes, corruption and human rights abuses) are in jail. George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Dick Cheney and others who oversaw these crimes are not in prison. 'Rules-based international order'
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I guess they want to keep the focus on Assange. There have also been smatterings about Reality Winner.
As we can see a "whistleblower" definition seems to be up for grabs now. Is a whistleblower to be praised or cursed as a traitor?
Whistleblower Protection Programs Dept. of Labor
Whistleblower (Official Site) Watch on CBS
Office of the Whistleblower Securities and Exchange Commission
Whistleblower - Informant Award Internal Revenue Service
I all depends on Quid pro quo I think.
If the whistleblower helps your team's objective, fine but if it goes against one's own agenda then a whistleblower becomes a "traitor".
I'm sure this is not headline news or anything...
Whistleblower Protection Programs Dept. of Labor
Whistleblower (Official Site) Watch on CBS
Office of the Whistleblower Securities and Exchange Commission
Whistleblower - Informant Award Internal Revenue Service
I all depends on Quid pro quo I think.
If the whistleblower helps your team's objective, fine but if it goes against one's own agenda then a whistleblower becomes a "traitor".
I'm sure this is not headline news or anything...
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Thanks Ryan - for the reply, much appreciated!
Fines and incarceration - for WHAT? That's so off-the-wall that I'm almost speechless. None of this whole situation, from the time Manning was placed in isolation, to the reports that Bradley was now Chelsea, to the suicide attempts in prison, to being granted "a Pardon"
by none other then, a fake imposter-n-chief in the WH? The asylum is truly being run by a bunch of rag-tag gangsters!
Thanks Herondancer, appreciate the updated info!
I don't get on Twitter much - more into hard-copy through articles & media press.Herondancer, I must have missed the boat - when it sailed off dock, so I'm going to show my ignorance and ask ... What are you referring too ... about "Reality Winner"? I'm out of the loop - on that one?
At one point, wasn't there a discussion about Assange having sent out encrypted info/files to select individuals and he would send "a code" to unlock them - in the event he was in danger? Maybe the surprise break-in to the Embassy and his abrupt arrest prevented him from releasing "code"?
What's happening to both Assange and Manning - makes no logical sense, to me. For some strange notion, I have a sense that this situation ties in with Epstein, in some way? O.K., they claim Epstein is dead - so he's out of the picture, so to speak. Epstein was into gun running and laundering money with shades of the Middle East involved. The main thing they came after Assange about was showing the film from Iraq that Manning provided. Is it possible - Assange and Manning "are in protective custody" on Trump's Order's - reason Trump wants him extradited to the U.S. (where Manning is located) ... and are "to be witnesses" in Grand Jury testimony, along with evidence from Epstein - to finally indict the Clinton's, Bush's et al? With the possibility, Assange and Manning would be pardoned and exonerated by Trump and hopefully given some type of monetary compensation? I know, it's a wild dream but I can't reconcile any other scenario?
Finally some Australian parliamentarians are starting to speak up for Julian. I hope it's not too late, and I hope it isn't just a ploy. Though independents seem to take on issues that party politicians leave alone.
@JEEP ,
I did too. It's worth trying I think. I have liked Paul Craig Roberts for quite awhile now. Thanks for the post.
Signed the petition as well... Also shared it on Facebook and Twitter.
Well it’s about time. I’m appalled at the lack of support from Australian politicians, though not surprised (being the vassal state of the US that we are). I too hope something comes out of it, time will tell. Since the raids on the ABC offices in Sydney, it seems like the media & journalists here are increasingly concerned about Govt. overreach and censorship. John Pilger is vocal about Assange’s plight, but It would be nice to see journalists rally to his cause too.
Well, there's Caitlin Johnstone who's been an avid supporter all along. But yeah, more mainstream journalists who have enough integrity to stand up even if it means their careers might take a hit, would be nice.
@turiya ,
I don't think the process is that "legal" and if anyone is exonerated it will be the deep state.
"we have to drag him" wonder who that "we" is...
And what is that wonderful "legal" court he will be tried in...
When you have a "need for speed" just take your case to the Rocket Docket.
Many law firms specialize in cases taken to the Rocket Docket such as this one:
Rocket Docket Practice (US District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia)
It's the perfect place to send a case that you want to get out of the way fast.
Take for example how well this district court processed Paul Manafort's case:
Why Paul Manafort's Trial Is Going So Fast
This kind of gives a whole new meaning to a quick and speedy trial. Unless Julian is miraculously being guarded by some mysterious "White Hats" and is a witness at a military tribunal instead of the Rocket Docket it doesn't bode well as I see it.
@turiya has posted this in the Q source / Qanon thread. I think it could also be relevant here. Whether the Patriots and Q are behind these revelations is to be determined I suppose.
Patriots vs the Deep State
Source: theconservativetreehouse.com
- Julian Assange is a risk to CIA interests,
- The initial operations to target Flynn, Papadopoulos and Page were all based overseas. This seemingly makes the CIA exploitation of the assets and the targets much easier.
- One of the more interesting aspects to the Durham probe is a possibility of a paper-trail created as a result of the tasking operations.
- However, there is an aspect to the domestic U.S. operation that also bears the fingerprints of the CIA; only this time due to the restrictive laws on targets inside the U.S. the CIA aspect is less prominent. This is where FBI Agent Peter Strzok working for both agencies starts to become important.
- The CIA was openly involved in constructing a political operation that settled upon anyone in candidate Donald Trump’s orbit.
- All of this engagement directly controlled by U.S. intelligence; and all of this intended to give a specific Russia impression. This predicate is presumably what John Durham is currently reviewing.
- The key point of all that background is to see how committed the CIA and FBI were to the constructed narrative of Russia interfering with the 2016 election. The CIA, FBI, and by extension the DOJ, put a hell of a lot of work into it. Intelligence community work that Durham is now unraveling.
- We also know specifically that John Durham is looking at the construct of the Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA); and talking to CIA analysts who participated in the construct of the January 2017 report that bolstered the false appearance of Russian interference in the 2016 election. This is important because it involves Julian Assange and Wikileaks.
- On April 11th, 2019, the Julian Assange indictment was unsealed in the EDVA. From the indictment we discover it was under seal since March 6th, 2018:
- On Tuesday April 15th more investigative material was released. Again, note the dates: Grand Jury, *December of 2017* This means FBI investigation prior to….
- The FBI investigation took place prior to December 2017, it was coordinated through the Eastern District of Virginia (EDVA) where Dana Boente was U.S. Attorney at the time. The grand jury indictment was sealed from March of 2018 until after Mueller completed his investigation, April 2019.
- Why the delay?
- What was the DOJ waiting for?
- Here’s where it gets interesting….
- The FBI submission to the Grand Jury in December of 2017 was four months after congressman Dana Rohrabacher talked to Julian Assange in August of 2017: “Assange told a U.S. congressman … he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents … did not come from Russia.”
- Julian Assange told a U.S. congressman he can prove the leaked Democratic Party documents he published during last year’s election did not come from Russia and promised additional helpful information about the leaks in the near future.
- Knowing how much effort the CIA and FBI put into the Russia collusion-conspiracy narrative, it would make sense for the FBI to take keen interest after this August 2017 meeting between Rohrabacher and Assange; and why the FBI would quickly gather specific evidence (related to Wikileaks and Bradley Manning) for a grand jury by December 2017.
- Within three months of the grand jury the DOJ generated an indictment and sealed it in March 2018. The EDVA sat on the indictment while the Mueller probe was ongoing.
- As soon as the Mueller probe ended, on April 11th, 2019, a planned and coordinated effort between the U.K. and U.S. was executed; Julian Assange was forcibly arrested and removed from the Ecuadorian embassy in London,
- The Weissmann/Mueller report contains claims that Russia hacked the DNC servers as the central element to the Russia interference narrative in the U.S. election. This claim is directly disputed by WikiLeaks and Julian Assange, as outlined during the Dana Rohrabacher interview, and by Julian Assange on-the-record statements.
- The CIA holds a massive conflict of self-interest in upholding the Russian hacking claim. The FBI holds a massive interest in maintaining that claim. All of those foreign countries whose intelligence apparatus participated with Brennan and Strzok also have a vested self-interest in maintaining that Russia hacking and interference narrative.
- Julian Assange is the only person with direct knowledge of how Wikileaks gained custody of the DNC emails; and Assange has claimed he has evidence it was not from a hack.
- Now, if we know this, well then, certainly AG Bill Barr knows this, the patriots are keeping him safe, the patriots need Assange, the [DS] on the other hand would like to 187 just like Seth Rich and Epstein.
Flynn Ready To Go Free, Egregious Government Misconduct, Covfefe, In The End We Win - Episode 2012b
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Nov 4, 2019
I somewhat recently saw an interview of George Papadopoulos on the internet. He was so set up!!! He said the never ending legal expenses being incurred was what finally got him to plead guilty - which the DS knows is a very effective tactic that was also used against other Trump campaign team members. And Flynn was obviously railroaded as well.
FYI: In the interview, George stated his financee (now his wife), Simona Mangiante, suffered a miscarriage after her lengthy interrogation by Mueller's team.
"Mrs. Papadopoulos, an Italian-trained attorney and former employee at the European Parliament in Brussels, underwent nearly three hours of questioning by federal agents at FBI headquarters in Chicago last year following a subpoena issued by special counsel Robert Mueller."
Despite being engaged to this very beautiful woman, the DS operatives tried to lure him into a 'honey trap' as well - they failed.
The following is the interview I saw in which Papadopoulos talks about his book, Deep State Target: How I Got Caught in the Crosshairs of the Plot to Bring Down President Trump - Parts One and Two:
FYI: In the interview, George stated his financee (now his wife), Simona Mangiante, suffered a miscarriage after her lengthy interrogation by Mueller's team.
"Mrs. Papadopoulos, an Italian-trained attorney and former employee at the European Parliament in Brussels, underwent nearly three hours of questioning by federal agents at FBI headquarters in Chicago last year following a subpoena issued by special counsel Robert Mueller."
Despite being engaged to this very beautiful woman, the DS operatives tried to lure him into a 'honey trap' as well - they failed.
After their whirlwind romance, which started with a LinkedIn message from him to her during late 2016, Mangiante Papadopoulos said the couple remained in limbo in Chicago.
"It went from paradise to hell," she said of their lives since he became embroiled in the Russia/collusion investigation.
They have been unable to find work, she said, because a legal and public relations hammer was hanging overhead. For financial reasons they recently moved from a River West apartment back to his mother's home on the Northwest Side, Mangiante Papadopoulos told the I-Team.
"We deal with a lot of stress, there is not much, mostly George can do. He can't work. He can't interact with anyone related indirectly to Trump," she said. "His life is on hold. And it's very difficult, when you're a young person building your career. Our finances are terrible. No, zero, zero income."
Ex-Trump aide George Papadopoulos, wife: from "paradise to hell"
The wife of Trump campaign aide George Papadopoulos, who pleaded guilty to lying about his Russian contacts, has offered a detailed accounting of her intriguing relationship with the Chicagoan now at the core of a political firestorm.abc7chicago.com
The following is the interview I saw in which Papadopoulos talks about his book, Deep State Target: How I Got Caught in the Crosshairs of the Plot to Bring Down President Trump - Parts One and Two:
I can only hope that sooner rather than later, justice will be served.The first of a special two-part edition of The Mark Steyn Show in which Mark talks with George Papadopoulos, the first Trump campaign member to plead "guilty" in the Mueller investigation. Mr Papadopoulos has set down his account of what happened these last four years of his life in a new book called Deep State Target - about how a Beltway think-tank wonk was set up as the "mark" of multiple high-level well-connected figures from America, Britain, Italy, Australia and elsewhere.
With yesterday's appointment of a new prosecutor, John Durham, to investigate the origins of the FBI's "Crossfire Hurricane" (the "counter-intelligence" operation that targeted Trump campaign staffers) the Papadopoulos story is more relevant than ever.
If you want to know more about how "Crossfire Hurricane" got cooked up, George's book is available (for the moment) at Amazon - https://amzn.to/2LHiPsP.
Honey Traps and Money Traps
On this second anniversary of The Mark Steyn Club, we're proud to present the second half of this two-part edition of The Mark Steyn Show in which I talk with George Papadopoulos about his three years as a Deep State Target. In this episode those seekingwww.steynonline.com
