Kantek, or what's left of it

[Palinurus]

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Painted Stone: Asteroids in the Sloan Digital Sky Survey
from Alex Parker

Over 100,000 asteroids and their colors, as seen by a single remarkable survey telescope.

This animation shows the orbital motions of over 100,000 of the asteroids observed by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS), with colors illustrating the compositional diversity measured by the SDSS five-color camera. The relative sizes of each asteroid are also illustrated.

All main-belt asteroids and Trojan asteroids with orbits known to high precision are shown. The animation is rendered with a timestep of 3 days.

The compositional gradient of the asteroid belt is clearly visible, with green Vesta-family members in the inner belt fading through the blue C-class asteroids in the outer belt, and the deep red Trojan swarms beyond that.

Occasional diagonal slashes that appear in the animation are the SDSS survey beams; these appear because the animation is rendered at near the survey epoch.

The average orbital distances of Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, and Jupiter are illustrated with rings.

Colors represented with the same scheme as Parker et al. (2008): adsabs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/bib_query?arXiv:0807.3762

Concept and rendering by Alex H. Parker: alexharrisonparker.com/

Funding for the creation and distribution of the SDSS Archive has been provided by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, the Participating Institutions, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, the National Science Foundation, the U.S. Department of Energy, the Japanese Monbukagakusho, and the Max Planck Society. The SDSS Web site is sdss.org/.

The SDSS is managed by the Astrophysical Research Consortium (ARC) for the Participating Institutions. The Participating Institutions are The University of Chicago, Fermilab, the Institute for Advanced Study, the Japan Participation Group, The Johns Hopkins University, the Korean Scientist Group, Los Alamos National Laboratory, the Max-Planck-Institute for Astronomy (MPIA), the Max-Planck-Institute for Astrophysics (MPA), New Mexico State University, University of Pittsburgh, University of Portsmouth, Princeton University, the United States Naval Observatory, and the University of Washington.

Music: Tamxr by LJ Kruzer (ljkruzer.co.uk/)

 

[sacriface]

Very impressive. Visualizations like this definitely change the perception of "emptiness" of the space between planets and stars.
There is also a timelapse of the process of discovery of such bodies in the solar system over the period between 1980 and 2011:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONUSP23cmAE

Now to imagine a Jupiter (if I remember the size-comparison correctly) sized Brown Dwarf, or it's companions pass close by, or through this mess.. Bearing in mind the Electric Universe Theory..

 

[Palinurus]

Thanks for sharing, ametist. It really is pretty crowded out there without most people knowing that or realizing it to the full.

As for the possible companion star (brown dwarf), that one will not be approaching these relatively nearby clouds of asteroids but the much more farther out Oort Cloud and maybe the Kuiper Belt. Those are both a completely other kettle of fish altogether.

You might have been exchanging the one for the others, probably. ;)

 

[Eboard10]

Now to imagine a Jupiter (if I remember the size-comparison correctly) sized Brown Dwarf, or it's companions pass close by, or through this mess.. Bearing in mind the Electric Universe Theory..

Yes, who needs the Oort cloud to create havoc on planet Earth when you have such a high number of bodies orbiting on our doorstep!

 

[sacriface]

As for the possible companion star (brown dwarf), that one will not be approaching these relatively nearby clouds of asteroids but the much more farther out Oort Cloud and maybe the Kuiper Belt. Those are both a completely other kettle of fish altogether.

You might have been exchanging the one for the others, probably. ;)

Oh, yes actually, I was aware of these two other, mixed them up unwittingly.

However, if the Brown Dwarf has it's own orbiting planets, could it be a possibility that their orbits reach far enough from their sun as to pass even through this cloud? Just a plain guess..

The chance of knocking anything around in this case would be much smaller, as it is with for our system's planets, still a bit bigger, though, as their routes would be divergent (criss-crossing) in regards to the movement of the debris in these clouds.

 

[Palinurus]

If you want to refresh your memory you'd better do a search for Oort Cloud or something like that because there's plenty of materials around here. For Oort Cloud alone I got four pages of references, 91 in total.

Here are two of them:

Some transcripts about dark companion and comet cluster

Computational modelling of the companion star and its interaction with Sol

 

[sacriface]

Thank you for the links, Palinurus.

Much of this is clearer now.
The companion star has no orbiting planets. It could possibly only acquire satellites from the Oort cloud, but thats a part of the general havoc resulting from the passage (the 'bowling pins' analogy).
It passes through quite far away, thus it's influence particularly upon the Kantekkian debris field is probably not worth pondering.

I wonder whether the also often mentioned 3,600 year period visiting comet cluster, which is due already (especially as the "shrinking orbit", thus period, as pointed out by the C's is considered [session 000909] ) would get enlarged by this debris.

In the session from 1 April 2007 Galahad asked how much of the meteorite impacts were reported, the C's said: 11%
Given the massive increase of the fireball sightings increase around the world up to date and NEO discoveries, if the ratio stays roughly the same, could it mean that the cluster has already arrived?
(Though no solid body, as which the cluster C's said would initially appear, was seen or reported..)

Reference: http://www.sott.net/article/271892-2013-saw-a-dramatic-increase-in-meteor-fireballs-What-does-2014-have-in-store

I've realized now this is kind of going into a different topic, so sorry if it's merely a distraction.

 

[Palinurus]

Not to worry, ametist. You would be surprised to discover that many if not most of the topics and threads on this forum have a meandering or zig-zag way of reaching their conclusions or their ending -- whichever comes first. It's only natural when we try to encompass every possible useful angle to get to the crux of the matter and to the truth
at the very bottom of any topic.

Bottom line here is that you reached more clarity in you thinking and congrats with that. That's the main thing, I think.

 

[sacriface]

Indeed, that's the inevitable feature in striving for the holistic approach/mindset, and it does happen here nearly all the time. Laura's work is the perfect example.

I just wasn't sure this time, if I'm doing it right :) so thanks for the reassurance. Some more clarity (also more questions to follow, as per usual) was reached. After all, this is why we're here.