Killary Clinton, The Donald, or Jill Stein: The US Election

[Richs]

From what I am getting at Trump gained the most support when he took a positive stand on Russia and Putin. So what happened? Do people love Putin so much that they pick a US-candidate who speaks favorable about him?

Is Putin far more popular in Western countries than their own leaders? I hope Trump would just basically ignore the loaded questions during the debate tonight and do what he does best, set the place on fire and speak favorable about working together with Russia.

There was a poll taken in the US several months ago which asked which of the famous persons/politicians American people would most like to be their president. Putin won hands down with, as I remember, somewhere in the high 90 percent of the votes. It is not so surprising then that when Trump says he thinks Putin is a great leader for Russia and that he would be willing to sit down and talk with him that it increases his poll statistics.

 

[bjorb]

[quote author= Richard S]There was a poll taken in the US several months ago which asked which of the famous persons/politicians American people would most like to be their president. Putin won hands down with, as I remember, somewhere in the high 90 percent of the votes. It is not so surprising then that when Trump says he thinks Putin is a great leader for Russia and that he would be willing to sit down and talk with him that it increases his poll statistics.[/quote]

Ok, great to hear !! Putin really is part of a slowly but surely global revolution isn’t he?

Western politicians/MSM/academics/celebrities hate him. (Status Quo)

But Putin is loved across the Western World, or at least enjoy a certain and growing popularity. Russia is winning the information war because they are speaking the truth.

Western Politicians should take note. Because they will never succeed in the polls when they stand against Putin.

 

[Richs]

[quote author= Richard S]There was a poll taken in the US several months ago which asked which of the famous persons/politicians American people would most like to be their president. Putin won hands down with, as I remember, somewhere in the high 90 percent of the votes. It is not so surprising then that when Trump says he thinks Putin is a great leader for Russia and that he would be willing to sit down and talk with him that it increases his poll statistics.

Ok, great to hear !! Putin really is part of a slowly but surely global revolution isn’t he?

Western politicians/MSM/academics/celebrities hate him. (Status Quo)

But Putin is loved across the Western World, or at least enjoy a certain and growing popularity. Russia is winning the information war because they are speaking the truth.

Western Politicians should take note. Because they will never succeed in the polls when they stand against Putin.
[/quote]
Yes, and there was just this article in SOTT that I have just read:
"Leaks and counter-leaks: Clinton and Trump more unpopular than Putin among American voters"
https://www.sott.net/article/330571-Leaks-and-counter-leaks-Clinton-and-Trump-more-unpopular-than-Putin-among-American-voters

 

[Laura]

What Killary, Biden, Bush, Pence, Ted Cruz and Co. have in their closets, most certainly doesn't even come close to what Trump has in it.

You really meant the opposite of what you wrote here, didn't you? That what Trump has in his closet doesn't come close to what Killary and the gang have in theirs?

 

[Cosmos]

What Killary, Biden, Bush, Pence, Ted Cruz and Co. have in their closets, most certainly doesn't even come close to what Trump has in it.

You really meant the opposite of what you wrote here, didn't you? That what Trump has in his closet doesn't come close to what Killary and the gang have in theirs?

Yes, exactly! Don't know why and how I wrote it in the opposide way there... Was certain I expressed it the other way

 

[JGeropoulas]

And this comes just after a new lawsuit was filed against Trump and Epstein for allegedly raping a 13yo girl:

https://www.scribd.com/document/326057027/Amended-Complaint-Filed-9-30-2016#from_embed

After reading this I couldn't help but wonder why Hillary hadn't used this lawsuit against Trump (whose lawyers have responded that the accusations have been completely fabricated for monetary gain). Then I remembered Bill Clinton's association with Epstein:

Epstein, who counts among his pals royal figures, heads of state, celebrities and fellow billionaires, spent 13 months in prison and home detention for solicitation and procurement of minors for prostitution. He allegedly had a team of traffickers who procured girls as young as 12 to service his friends on “Orgy Island,” an estate on Epstein's 72-acre island, called Little St. James, in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Former President Bill Clinton was a much more frequent flyer on a registered sex offender’s infamous jet than previously reported, with flight logs showing the former president taking at least 26 trips aboard the “Lolita Express” -- even apparently ditching his Secret Service detail for at least five of the flights

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/05/13/flight-logs-show-bill-clinton-flew-on-sex-offenders-jet-much-more-than-previously-known.html

More details here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3825882/The-cozy-relationship-billionaire-Jeffrey-Epstein-Bill-Clinton-flew-pedophile-s-private-jet-praised-insights-generosity-detailed-new-book-James-Patterson.html

 

[JEEP]

A new fly in the ointment - from Secure Team 10 - 7:58/168,565 views:

LEAKED Hillary Clinton Emails Proof Of Alien Coverup!? 10/8/16

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Published on Oct 8, 2016

Email link: _https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/...
More on John Podesta: _https://goo.gl/8KKIXO & https://goo.gl/N0bwZT

 

[JEEP]

And the Wikileaks hit the fan - oh, and BTW, Russia did it! October surprise 2.0 - Killery's very bad day:

THIS is Why Pointless Trump Tape was Released: Clinton Wall Street Speeches/Damning Emails Leaked - (8:41)

http://<iframe width="854" height="...wQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[axj]

Well, apparently they had this recording for a while and wanted to release it shortly before the election, but then they panicked and released it sooner to offset the Wikileaks revelations about Hillary on the same day.

I watched an interview with Assange and he said that he doesn't announce the exact dates of the Wikileaks releases so that the MSM has a harder time coming up with something else to drown that. Seems like this is exactly what has been happening in the last few days.

 

[Marina9]

Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Second presidential "debate" over here:

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One of the things that I was watching from the live chat in Youtube, was that when Killary started (again) going crazy over Russia and Syria "bombing" civilians is that I saw a lot of people commenting how stupid that was, and she should just stop with that anti-russia propaganda. I could also see how the moderators were taking sides, with Killary again, dunno if it was just me but it was pretty clear.. And knowing what we know from Anderson Cooper from CNN as angelburst29 posted, well im not surprised..

 

[Aeneas]

Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

I just a watched bits and pieces of the debate as the livestream kept cutting out. Hillary is the more calm looking and serene, flashing her eeirie smile from time to time, but she tells the audience what they want to hear, even when it is contrary to what she has done. A hypocritical lying politician and skillful at that. But Trump got many good points in that must have hurt the Clinton campaign.

Agree with Marina9, the moderators were again helping Clinton and hard on Trump. Hardly unexpected.
The Zerohedge in an article had Trump as the winner and is good for some of the key moments with videoclips capturing them: _http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/10/08/20161009_debatePM1.jpg

Debate Post-Mortem: Trump Crushes Clinton - "You Should Be In Jail"
From the no-handshake start, following the most awkward Bill-Melania pre-debate greeting, it was clear the gloves were off. While Trump started apologetically, once Clinton opened up ad hominem character attacks, The Donald turned it up to '11'. Lashing out at Bill's indiscretions "his actions are worse than words", Hillary's lying "you should be in jail... I will call for a special prosecutor", and the biases of the moderators"it's one of three here" even the crowd cheered.. before being quickly shushed. Online polls, unbiased commentators, and the Mexican Peso agreed Trump won.

A picture paints a thousand words...

>snip<
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Edit: added quotation mark and link + a bit more text.

And no, she also didn't collapse in a heap either, so she must be on good medications.

 

[Marina9]

Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Ha! That picture is pricelles Aeneas! Another thing I forgot to mention and that stood up in my mind was this:

https://www.rt.com/usa/362184-trump-pence-syria-disagree/

'Russia is killing ISIS': Trump disagrees with VP over more intervention in Syria

Donald Trump said he "disagrees" with his running mate over US intervention in Syria. Mike Pence had called for hitting Syrian government targets, but on Sunday the GOP nominee said that instead, the US should work together with Russia against ISIS.

“He and I haven’t spoken and I disagree,” Trump said during Sunday's presidential debate, when asked whether he agreed with Pence's calls for bombing Syria.

During the presidential debates on Tuesday Pence had said that the US should be ready to strike the Syrian army if Russia continues to be involved in what he called“barbaric actions” in Aleppo.

Both Trump and Clinton were asked what would they do about the situation in Aleppo, which the question – asked via Facebook – compared to the Holocaust.

Clinton blamed the situation in Aleppo on the Syrian government and Russia, accusing Moscow of not paying "any attention to ISIS" but only being "interested in keeping Assad in charge."

"We need some leverage with he Russians because they’re not going to come to the negotiation table without leverage," Clinton said, repeating her calls for establishing a no-fly zone and arming the Kurds, but acknowledging that sending US troops on the ground would not work.

"I would not use American ground forces in Syria, I think that would be a very serious mistake," Clinton said.

“She talks rebels, but she doesn’t know who the rebels are.” Trump replied. “Almost everything she’s done in foreign policy, it’s been a mistake and it’s been a disaster.”

Trump took issue with Clinton's claim that Russia was not fighting Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL).

“Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing ISIS. Iran is killing ISIS. And those three have now lined up together because of our weak policy,” he said.

“I think it would be great if we got along with Russia. We could fight ISIS together,” Trump had said earlier in the evening.

What would happen if Aleppo falls, asked ABC's Martha Raddatz.

“Aleppo… I think that it basically has fallen,” Trump replied.

The Republican nominee also repeated his criticism of the US military announcing an attack on IS in Mosul, thus sacrificing the element of surprise, ending with declaring that “Generals George Patton and Douglas McArthur are spinning in their graves at our stupidity in the Middle East.”

 

[Neil]

Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Trump hit pretty hard with Bill's shady dealings, but everyone was expecting that. He did a pretty good job of debunking Hillary's "Russian aggression" propaganda line in Syria, without looking like he was sucking up to Putin. He should just throw out the fact that the state department funds ISIS, but that would be a pretty hot potato and I'm not sure that he really understands that. He told Hillary that she doesn't even really know who the moderate rebels even are, and at least Syria/Iran/Russia are actually fighting ISIS and we should be aligned with that. Maybe he knows and is trying to get you to read between the lines. He kept emphasizing her 30 years of bad decisions, which he knows is his most defensible point and Hillary was starting to get a little irritated with it. That was the most important part of the debate, in my opinion. Trump was much more aware of the moderator bias this time and called them on it several times when he told them it was "three against one." He forced them to hassle Hillary a little bit to maintain some veneer of objectivity. That little display was clever and will probably serve to undermine a lot of the anti-Trump rhetoric the MSM tries to spin about the debate. The final question about finding something to respect in your opponent was interesting. Hillary sidestepped the question by doing the "kissing babies" routine by saying she liked Trump's children, but had nothing good to say about Trump. Trump said he admired her ability to keep fighting, the way she never gives up, which is probably what I would say. She is persistent, if nothing else. I think Hillary made a mistake here and people will notice.

Hillary was her calm, cool, plastic self most of the time, but when Trump was grilling her about deleting the emails and getting her cronies in the government to cover it up, she did seem to be thrown slightly off balance and stutter a bit when Trump said he would hire an independent prosecutor to settle the case honestly once and for all. If Trump does manage to pull it off, it must've crossed her mind for half a second that the Clintons might actually be held accountable for their actions, and she didn't like the prospect of her head being on the proverbial platter.

The MSM commentary about this debate being more about personal vendettas than actual issues is probably accurate, but that is how their hero Hillary set it up, trying to trap Trump. Trump was a little more present in himself this time, but once again there was a lot of bantering with no real knockout punches.

 

[bjorb]

Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

Thanks all for sharing your observations.

I watched a few of the highlights mentioned and found the following fragments pretty sweet:

Trump Brings Up Bill Clinton's Affairs and Sketchy Past (4:35 min)

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Trump to Clinton: 'You'd be in jail' (Video: 4:15 min)

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Trump on Russia, Syria, Assad, ISIS, Foreign Policy (5:34)

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[Cosmos]

Re: Presidential debates 2016 between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump

I watched it and the more I see of it, the stranger it gets. Somehow I get the feeling, that that whole charade is scripted from start to finish, as some kind of very sick joke show, to see "how far we can go ". Like a huge energy sucking machine, presented as a "debate" or "election". You really have to be mindful, to not get sucked into it. No matter how you look at it, in this (s)election, openly pathological behaviour is forced on the public, as something that is very normal now. Maybe that is the real reason for this show to begin with? To suck as much energy, or life, out of the population?