Kryon

Adaryn

The Living Force
This stuff might be interesting to analyse as part of the "Channel Watch" and channel debunking:

_http://www.kryon.com/k_channel08_discovery.html

Live Kryon Channelling
Loveland, Colorado
Sept 26 , 2008
"Human Evolution"
As channelled by Lee Carroll for Kryon
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LIVE KRYON CHANNELLING
Human Evolution

This live channelling was Given in Loveland, Colorado
The Kryon Discovery Series
September 26, 2008

To help the reader, this channelling has been rechannelled [by Lee and Kryon] and added onto to provide even clearer understanding. Often what happens live has implied energy within it, which carries a kind of communication that the printed page does not. So enjoy this enhanced message given at the Discovery Series in Loveland.

Greetings, dear ones, I am Kryon of Magnetic Service.

Blessed is the Human Being who chooses with free choice to give of their resources, of their time, of their energy, to discover who they are. Blessed is that Human Being for they now sit in the room. You have to know that on the other side of the veil, right at this moment in your time, there is energy being placed in this room. This is not a mystery to God. Your presence in the chair is not a mystery to God. Coming here has not been an accident. The questions you have - I already know what you're going to ask. They burn in you. I know why you're here.

Dear Human, if you knew the way it worked, you would see the very crystalline structures of the sole essence of this expression vibrating in the Cave of Creation at this moment. For you have elected, number one, to believe this is real. That is a state of allowance that brings you into alignment... into an attunement, if you wish, of all your cellular structure and what you call your heart, so that it might be presented and accepted in integrity. It's a time of learning. Some of you will pretend to go to sleep, but you really don't. You might wonder why these channels are not long. The reason is because you really would go to sleep! Spirit knows the endurance of the Human Being in this state so the channelling time is short. For in this particular state, as this room warms up, you'll be aware that there is more going on here than a voice coming from a chair with a microphone - a lot more going on.

There are many listening and reading. Let me say it again: I know who you are, as well, reader. You feel that this particular event for you is happening in a different time frame, but not for me. I see the potentials of the ones who pick up the books, who press the buttons, who give intent for their ears to hear what is taking place in what you would call "real time." So in a three-dimensional aspect, it's the first time you hear it. But if you think about it, when it's heard for the first time by others and read for the first time by others, it's their first time, too. So you might say it's all happening at the same time. Epiphanies are that way. Energy is that way. You feel it's distributed in three-dimensional time. You can look at your watches and say, "This is when the channel occurred." But that's not correct. It occurs when it's heard, read, and understood by a Human. That's the way energy is dispersed. It's an interdimensional, nonlinear process. That is what we wish to discuss.

This is the second time this information has been presented and now it is expanded upon. The first time was a rehearsal for my partner so he would be able to understand what was to come. This time the energy will be enhanced; the information will be complete, for you need to hear it.

We've chosen this particular venue in front of those who wish to work on themselves for three days, to present a concept which has needed to be presented [speaking about this channelling being given at the Kryon Discovery Retreat in Loveland, Colorado]. It will stir controversy. These messages always do, for the perception that you have is one thing but the reality may be yet another. We wish to talk about Human evolution. We wish to talk about the evolving Human spirit. We wish to tell you what is taking place on the planet and then we wish to invite you to see it and participate!

Human evolvement usually takes place over a gradual amount of time through the normal birth and death process. It is no different than for any other creature. You don't expect any kind of actual evolution to take place in the life of a single Human while alive. Spiritual evolvement, however, takes place through the birth and death process as well as while the Human is alive during one lifetime. It has to be that way, for the children cannot be the only ones to receive a conceptual consciousness, and that's what's taking place. Those alive right now are starting to shift into what would normally take many generations to create. Human consciousness is shifting, and that's what we told you in 1989.

Let me take you again to the wind of birth. Human Beings come in with a linear mind. You might say, "Well, that's the way of it, and that's who we are." No, it isn't. That's the way you chose it to be. Hard to believe, but lurking in your DNA, those trillions of pieces of spiritual and biological energy in your body are many energies that are quantum. They're interdimensional attributes of biology clearly given to you by the Pleiadians over 50,000 years ago.

Now, for some of you who are reading, this may cause you to shut the book right now. It sounds strange, yet it's the truth. What if I told you that this planet of free choice is just one in a series? They happen one at a time, and they're very linear. But the last one that happened was in the Seven Sisters (star cluster of the Pleiades). The last one seeded this one so you so that you would have a piece of God inside. It created a "spiritual Human," different from any other on the planet at that time. The time frame was more than 50,000 years ago, when there were at least 17 kinds of Humans evolving simultaneously. The Pleiadian visit stopped it all, and only one kind of Human survived... something counterintuitive to the evolutionary process of all other animals on the planet. It was on purpose, blessed, and appropriate. You are one of the only species on the entire planet that has only one kind.

"Oh boy, Kryon's talking about ETs!" Is he? Or is he talking about family? Let me tell you something I have said before: There will come a day when the Pleiadians visit you again. And when they get out of their vehicles, they're going to look just like you! Oh, they may be a little taller, but they'll look just like you... standard Humanoid. When that happens, you'll know who they are. It will demystify everything.

I'm going to tell you something else. They're not going to arrive for some time. They wouldn't have arrived at all had it not been for 1987 when you chose to continue the spiritual evolvement of the Human race. It has taken all this time. It's slow, you know? Let me tell you about it.

Lemurians had a quantum consciousness through the spiritual seeds that were given to them within the layers of DNA I have spoken about before. It carried over, even into what you have called the Atlantians. The Lemurians knew about the solar system, about DNA, and about how physics worked. This information is scientifically funny, for the scientists of your world will look at this statement and say, "That's absurd; absolutely absurd. There's not one artifact that has ever been found that would lead anyone to believe that the ancients had the ability to manufacture the glass necessary for microscopes and telescopes. They didn't even have electricity. They didn't have computers. They didn't have anything that would allow them to know what we know today. They were not an advanced race. They didn't have science like we enjoy, or the discoveries of the last century. They couldn't have known any of those things."

And I say to those scientists, how assumptive of you to define higher knowledge into what you specifically have invented. Let me tell you, they did! But they had it through quantum DNA. In other words, it was intuitive. Being in a quantum state with something creates a oneness with it. Quantum physics knows this. When a Human Being has a consciousness that is one with everything, he knows all about cellular structure, for he is part of it and can see into it. He knows how it works. He can "see" unbalance. He can "see" the solar system. He can see the energies of the planets as they go around the sun, imbuing the sun with a gravitational pattern of the moment. They knew all about science, for it was part of them. They're from the dirt of the earth. They're in a quantum state with all. It is intuitive knowledge and they didn't need a telescope. They didn't need a microscope. They didn't need a computer! You do, because you're linear and you're hobbled. You've had to create instruments to do for you what the Lemurians did naturally.

This science they had was different. They didn't study to get it; therefore, it doesn't have the same form yours does. It was common knowledge and used casually. When you wish your arm to move, it simply does. Do you analyze the myriad of signals that went from the brain to the muscles? No. But what if Humans lost that ability over time? Then some day they would invent machines to make their arm move with thought. If so, then in the far future they would probably totally deny that you ever could do it... since they never found an "arm machine" artifact.

The earth has been stuck in linearity for eons. This is what your energy and vibration has created. The quantum consciousness of the past has tempered and not been used. You lost it. We have told you this before. It's why your prophets, up to now, have been so accurate. It's because the earth is stuck in an energy that allows for prophecy. That is to say that when the energy is static and nothing ever changes, it's easy to predict what's next. Not anymore, if you've noticed. None of the quatrains of Nostradamus have come true lately. It's almost like you're on a new earth that nobody had ever foreseen. In some ways, you are. Suddenly in 1987, Human evolvement moved off the peg of what it had been for centuries.

When you were born, the paradigm of vibration was linear. This is the consciousness of your birth, and it's the same as your immediate ancestors. In your brain, there are walls of consciousness - walls that keep you from conceptual thinking. You are so linear, you can't even hear two conversations at once. Oh, you're capable, but the walls are thick and you don't know you can. You have to keep the separation of communication linear because the linearity of your understanding is also one way. Even the message that I give today through my partner is given in a linear fashion, one word at a time. You can only listen one word at a time. How limiting! Reader, you are reading a line of words! How limiting! Wouldn't it be better to simply touch the book and get this message? But you never think about that, do you? The walls keep you from even conceiving it.

This is now beginning to shift. For what is starting to take place now is the beginning of nonlinear thinking. This is eventually going to create a conceptual society. Very slowly, past 2012, the Human race will begin to use some of the lost DNA abilities that still are in your body, but have not been used for thousands of years. Let me give you some attributes that you may not have thought of... a secret, an awareness that you might even disagree with because it's so strange.

You're aware, are you not, of how linear you are? We've told you before that when interdimensional creatures visit this planet (which they do), they see you as two-dimensional black and white stick figures on a piece of paper. Humans, in their arrogance, especially intellectuals, say to them, "We are capable of thinking anything we want to. We can think above the piece of paper." That's funny to them, since you don't even know what dimension you're in! You don't even know you're not in color! They see this and they leave. There's nothing here for them and they can't communicate with a cartoon. That's what linearity does to you and you're not even aware of it.

Human thinkers of high intellectual ideas have a ceiling they run up against, but the ceiling itself is not apparent. They don't even know they run up against it. They simply can't think past their own dimensionality. There is no awareness of what they don't know. But these attributes are shifting and all of that is starting to change. It's all around you, and you can't see it. Let me give you an example of the Human brain.

What do you think the Human brain can really do? What do you think it's built to do? Let me give you an example of what your society has come to accept as an "unbalanced person." Some of you think it's a "sick person." Let me talk about the autistic one. Let us talk about autism in what you call the most severe case.

Blessed is the autistic one who has come to this earth to show you what future Human evolvement looks like! They spend a lifetime trying to figure out linearity and it frustrates them. Blessed is the savant who the earth looks at and calls unbalanced. For the Humans who do this cannot see what they don't understand. The autistic one is able to get up off the paper and be in color! Many of the autistic ones can do what your calculators can do on your desks, did you know that? And they don't need a calculator! Give them a problem - two digits multiplied by three digits. Now watch how fast they give you the answer. Because they're not linear! Ask them what weekday the 13th of August will be in 2012, and they'll tell you, and they don't need a calendar. You might say, "What kind of a mind can do that?" I'll tell you - a nonlinear one without the walls in the brain that you have.

Have you ever thought about that? The autistic have a nonlinear mind. The barriers are dropped. Can you imagine the frustration of this Human? Here he is in a world of black and white while he is in color. Not only that, you want him to go in a straight line when he is used to all directions at once. This also explains why the only energies that will work to calm him are interdimensional ones - music, art, and love. Does this start to make sense to you? (see below)

What is taking place, dear ones, for all to know and see and understand, is that very, very slowly you have the linearity of the Human brain starting to be reduced. Unlike the autistic, it will be in ways that will still be balanced and make sense. In other words, you will be able to move in and out of quantum thought any time you wish in order to live in a linear, 3D existence, but have quantum consciousness. It will be a return to a form of consciousness that Lemurians had, but with the wisdom of the ages that you have collected. This will not be fast, but the forerunners of that are already here.

I'm going to give you some attributes of Human evolution in a moment, but let's return to the autistic ones. Many reading this are very concerned about autism. You wish to know why there are so many autistics being born. You say it's beyond coincidence that there are suddenly so many! There's more autistic children being born today than there ever have been on this planet. Humans are scurrying around wanting to know what's wrong. Is it the chemistry of the food? Perhaps it must be vaccinations! Some are saying, without any proof, "Yes, that's it - vaccinations must be it." You are grasping at almost anything to solve the puzzle of why so many autistics are arriving.

Yet very few Humans, if any, have looked at the puzzle and said, "Perhaps we're evolving, and this is the first wave of what we're going to see?" Not mentally unbalanced, but nonlinear thinking! This is, indeed, the case. You are seeing a form of evolution and you are calling it odd and unusual. It's simply those who are coming in early with activated quantum DNA. This early forerunner has DNA activated in an uncontrolled way, and so learning is needed to know how to make sense of it all. This is what they are doing, and each generation of savant will have a better time of it, figuring out what is linear and what is not.

Watch the autistic child go through what they must do (autism in its most severe form). They are so nonlinear that there is incredible frustration in trying to linearize even the Human voice as you speak to them. They will do the same actions over and over and over, trying to linearize the nonlinear. The linear walls are gone in their brain, and they have to learn to build the ones that they need. Humans then see them as a problem, and it's not a problem. It's a form of gifted children who are helping this planet to grow. Blessed are those who come into Earth as the new wave of consciousness to show you where it's going. They are setting the stage for a new kind of Human. For this quantumness will develop in a balanced way where many will have the autistic talents where they want them, and the linear when they want that. That's what the Human mind is capable of - being quantum when they wish to be. That's a return to the way it was given to you.

Let me tell you something that's nonlinear in your life. We have said this so seldom. You're given two quantum things as a Human Being, two things that pass between the other side of the veil and this side of the veil that are absolutely quantum, not linear. They have structure, but they are not linear. Perhaps you haven't even thought about them? I'll tell you what they are - art and music. There is no limit to the number of notes that you can hear at the same time, which your brain can listen to and put together. There's no limit to the number of symphony orchestra players that can come together in harmony on one stage. The more you add, the better it gets! Try that with lecturers [smile]. Did you ever think about that? There's no limit to the number of colors that you can comprehend and resolve in certain patterns. They are beautiful and have communications within them all. Music touches your heart. Now you know why. It's interdimensional. It's quantum. It was designed to do that. Now, apply that same scenario to communication and you'll see where you're going. This is Human evolvement. It's beginning on this planet. It will go slow, but that's what's going on.

What to Expect - Applications of Quantum Thinking

Let me give you a couple of the attributes of what to expect within the next generations. A quantum mind is one that is going to start understanding what we will call the timing of synchronicity. You call that patience. Patience is a result of a linear mind that didn't get what they thought they would within the time frame they thought it would arrive. It is represented by the one who taps their toe because the time frame doesn't go fast enough for them. The impatient person is totally and completely linear. The new consciousness will see a relaxation in patience because there will be an understanding about synchronized timing.

Messages of action will be given from Spirit, and the nonlinear thinker will understand that they don't have to run out and manifest them "right now." There will be something placed upon the message, something that you cannot understand now, for you're not quantum. The message will have a quantum portion that helps with synchronicity, and the quantum thinker will "get it." This is very difficult to describe to a three-dimensional audience what that's like. Think of it as freedom from time. It's a freedom of thought, so that you're not always stuck on the clock. You're not always goal setting, then being disappointed when the time arrived and nothing happened. You're happy just to "be."

Instead of frustration, you know that the things that are coming will happen in their appropriate time, and synchronicity will bring them to you. This means you won't worry about them (what a concept)! You will not be anxious about them or go into drama about them. Eventually, there'll be no Human Being who will ask the question, "God, when is this going to happen?" Because you're all part of the bigger picture, you'll understand that and be pleased and comfortable about that. Can you imagine such a state? It's extremely difficult to describe an attribute of coming thinking that is not here yet... since you can't think about it!

Picture it this way: You are building a wooden horse for a merry-go-round. God tells you to build the horse. You finish, but there is no place for it... all the horse slots are taken, and the merry-go-round is always moving. At this moment in time, many Humans give up and say, "Well, I guess I got it wrong. I missed my opportunity. The empty slot for the horse passed me already." Then they throw away the horse! The quantum Human will say, "The merry-go-round is huge, and I'm standing in front of it. It's only a matter of time before the slot appears for the horse, since I know the merry-go-round is circular." In other words, there is absolutely no doubt that the slot is going to appear... just like being certain your child will appear on a horse as he moves to the right, disappears with the rotation motion of the ride, and then re-appears on the left as the device continues to rotate around its own axis. Did you ever go into anxiety, wondering if your child would appear again after he was out of sight on this ride? No! That would be silly. Are you beginning to understand? You can see the entire ride! A linear person can only see a portion of it and doesn't even see that it's circular.

The New Consciousness Children

There has been much said about the consciousness of the children coming into this planet and we've saved this almost to last. It truly is proof that what we are speaking of is actually happening. We call this attribute becoming more in touch with the Akash. My partner gave a scenario earlier today in lecture that the listener and the reader did not get. So I will not dwell upon it except to say that it speaks of a knowledge of what is inside you, within the DNA. Your personal Akashic record is within you... who you've been and what you've done in past expressions on this planet. It's part of the interdimensional energy of your DNA.

Imagine a child who comes into this planet with the concept of knowing they have been here before. Not the details, but an innate feeling of "been there, done that." What kind of a child would that create? First of all, it would be a child who does not want to learn in a linear fashion, for they see the end result and the whole concept as you, who are linear, try to teach them the parts. That's what is going on today, if you've noticed. So you end up with children who don't want to sit still when the teacher gives them the pabulum of linearity, when they already have a picture of the whole quantum issue.

When the children get bored and act out, you've called it disease [ADD]. You put them in groups and you've even drugged them! Humans do that. You're not willing to see the next wave of evolution, are you? Education on the planet right now is convinced that Human nature is static and it will never change. So they're fine with developing learning systems that are over 100 years old. They keep sharpening these procedures so they are better and better for who they feel they are for... a 100-year-old consciousness. They believe the children being born today will have the same consciousness as they did, and their parents did, and their parents' parents.

It's a shock, isn't it? It seems that the kids are unbalanced when they simply don't want to be a part of old linear teaching! You're seeing it all over the earth. The new children are growing up. They're becoming young adults and they'll go into the workplace and the employer will expect linear attitudes. These young people, however, will look at the whole concept of this linear approach and reject it. They don't want to walk up the ladder of experience because their DNA yells that they have already been there.

The new Humans have an overwhelming feeling of the Akash within themselves. They know they're an old soul. They just don't even know the words to express it. It is within their brains, and it is their concept that they know as much as anyone at the top of the ladder. Seen it? Yes, you have. Of course it's not true, since they will indeed have to start at the bottom and work up. But the employer is going to have to come up with some very creative nonlinear incentives to keep them at work. Otherwise, they will quit and try their attitude somewhere else.

All this is called Human evolution. Humanity is evolving before your eyes. Yet so many of those who are educated and should know better are forcing these young ones down, giving them even more frustration than they already have. You can force them into your linear box if you wish, but you will lose their respect and their attention. It is evolution, not unbalance. It's evolution, not a disease! It's an increase in wisdom.

Go inside for a moment, old soul. Have you been looking at this? I have given you an overwhelming overview of a bigger picture that goes beyond anything you were ever told. This plan is bigger than you were told, and more beautiful than you were told. You're personally part of the plan in a way that you were never told. It's awesome. It's beautiful. Humans are evolving... both the ones who are being born, and the ones who are allowing themselves to reach for this new energy.

There's something you ought to know as you reach for God: You're going to find a very loving energy that is reaching back. Did you know that? You don't have to break down a wall. We're on the other side of a thin veil trying to allow you to see us. If you'll only give permission and intent for it, the result will be wisdom and healing.

When you get your answers, they are going to come in a quantum state, not a linear one. You are not going to receive voices or sounds or the flapping of angel wings. Instead, you are going to receive synchronicity... what you may call luck or a coincidence.

I wish to speak to those in this room, at this moment, in your time frame. You're going to leave this building in a moment and walk out of those doors. When you do that, we are going with you. Good luck on sleeping! This teaching is more important than sleeping. The angels who leave with you wish to dance in your heart. They want to start working on your cellular structure. They want to awaken your Akash. Because that's why you came.

Let the seeds be planted this night for the healing you came for. I don't just mean physical; I mean mental, for those in the room, no matter what age, can begin a conceptual shift. That is to say, you may start activating slowly the quantum layers of DNA that the Lemurians activated, that the Pleiadians knew all about. This is the higher vibration of the planet. It is why the heliosphere of the sun has decreased 20 percent in the last years. It is all related to magnetics. Check it out!

I am the magnetic master. I told you these things 20 years ago. It speaks to your DNA. It is all part of an interdimensional quantum scheme that you have planned, allowed for, and invited in as the shift.

Listen: Do not be alarmed at what happens on this earth in the next months. Listen to me: Don't go into fear in October. For the potentials that you might feel may or may not be manifest. I'm not going to say anymore.*

You are Lightworkers and you are here to put light into the earth no matter what. Are you ready for that? Will you do that? There are things in 3D and then there are things out of 3D. The love of God is not in 3D, yet it will permeate your every cell. That's why you're here. The ones listening, the ones reading, the ones hearing are the ones who will change this planet. Even right now as you sit here, the Crystalline Grid is starting to vibrate higher. How does it make you feel to know that you really made all this happen? You've come and gone and come and gone to this planet, and you're not going to miss this one [meaning this life]. You're going to come again until it's over, because it's all part of what you did and what you're doing. I know it sounds cryptic, but it ought to resound in your heart. You're part of the solution, dear Human Beings, dear family of mine. You're part of the solution. That's why we love you the way we do. That's not going to change either. Let us in. Let fear be a thing of the past. Let drama go away. Let the top of your countenance just lift off and hear the music. Oh! You can do that. Sit and bask in the love of Spirit. It's time!

We don't go anywhere. Speaking to those in the room, we're going to stay here for three days with you. When you come in this room tomorrow, you'll know we didn't go anywhere. We're patient, you know? When you come back in 3D, we're still here. To us it's a blink of an eye. We're still here. Many of us will hold your hands as you leave the room. You'll feel it and you'll know it. That's why you came here, isn't it?

And so it is.

KRYON

* FROM LEE: Channelled in September 2008, this represents a potential challenge that is only a potential. Kryon sometimes tells us that there is something coming that may or may not be manifest. Hopefully by the time you read this, you will understand more. We are very powerful and can change the fabric of reality. These things are often given to us to bolster us up, and never to bring us fear.
 
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Do you have any take on this, Prayers for rain? Kryon is pretty popular, but whenever I read Kryon, I always feel nearly suffocated by the flattery it heaps upon its followers.
 
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PopHistorian said:
Do you have any take on this, Prayers for rain?  Kryon is pretty popular, but whenever I read Kryon, I always feel nearly suffocated by the flattery it heaps upon its followers. 

It seems that prayers for rain posted it without comment to encourage discussion, so what's your take, PopHistorian?  I don't currently have the time to go through it line for line, but the blatant hypnotic wishful thinking slant is quite obvious - much like most new age 'channels' who strive to put their listeners into a dreaming state.  The take on autism is unsettling, considering the previous discussions here on pathology, indigo children and a lack of empathy evident in both - including autism.  I think it's quite possible that autism is a sign of a 'change' - but it may be forced, and not the type of 'change' Kryon seems to be implying.  Of course, this is just my personal take on it and I could be WAY off.  Perhaps you see something different?
 
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PopHistorian said:
Do you have any take on this, Prayers for rain? Kryon is pretty popular, but whenever I read Kryon, I always feel nearly suffocated by the flattery it heaps upon its followers.

Back in 2004 or 2005 I got sucked into Kryon. :-[ While Book One was an eye opener to possibilities, I never felt comfortable with all of the gushing and feet washing of followers. If just felt off. I should have listened to my intuition, that doubt I had. My awareness turned around Book Seven I think when it appeared to me that Kryon had left the building and Lee was now channelling pure ego at that point. The fact that Lee is practically sleeping with the United Nations was another huge flag for me and began to raise questions. I also noticed that "Kryon" was kinda of repeating himself. I got the sense that Lee was just trying to fill pages to sell books. I got tired of reading the same gushing blah blah without data to support any objective truth.

Lee is Pro-Zion. After book seven it appears to me that Kryon=Zion. I look at the channellings now and just cringe. On a positive note, it does show how much I have progressed (still ways to go though). I am embarassed that I fell for all of that love and light crayola stuff. :-[ Just my personal experience fwiw.
 
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anart said:
PopHistorian said:
Do you have any take on this, Prayers for rain? Kryon is pretty popular, but whenever I read Kryon, I always feel nearly suffocated by the flattery it heaps upon its followers.

It seems that prayers for rain posted it without comment to encourage discussion

Yes :)

But to give just a general impression, when I visited new age forum some years ago, I remember Kryon was frequently mentionned as an essential channeling, along with "Soria". The channelers, Lee Carroll and Jan Tobber (a couple), are the ones at the origin of the Indigo children concept. I did read some Kryon channelings, but even in my new age years was never never quite able to read a whole text. Never liked it. It really is the kind that Topper describes : circumvoluted mumbo jumbo which gives warm and cozy feelings. Nice words packed up together which have no meaning:
Dear Human, if you knew the way it worked, you would see the very crystalline structures of the sole essence of this expression vibrating in the Cave of Creation at this moment.
Empty calories like Laura says in the Wave.

And also flattery: " dear human", "thou are blessed", bla bla.

There are red flags, as Anart pointed :
"Blessed is the autistic one who has come to this earth to show you what future Human evolvement looks like!"

:scared:

Generally when a channeling begins with :
"Greetings, dear ones"
followed by :
"I am XXXX of XXXX Service"
it's quite a clue... OSIT

It might be interesting to make a review about this Kryon, using the guidelines provided here
 
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Here's my quick impression (so my observations may be off) since I don't have time at the moment to study the Kryon stuff in more detail. But I'm naturally skeptical and critical of everything that I come across and when I come across something like this I ask myself: What is this person saying and what are they really saying?

So here are some of my quick 'blink' (skeptical) impressions from some of the excerpts.

In other words, it was intuitive. Being in a quantum state with something creates a oneness with it. Quantum [physics knows this. When a Human Being has a consciousness that is one with everything, he knows all about cellular structure,

This seems to me to be a subtle way of saying that the lesser and the greater are the same thing. In other words, the finite present moment of our everyday experience and the greater present moment of some higher intelligence are one and the same thing. Individual discernment, critical thinking, testing, personal responsibility, and personal choice within the context of discerning between the lesser and the assumed greater fields of information are not needed because 'evolution' is doing it for us. That's the 'message' I get.

This would be equivalent to taking mind expanding drugs and then thinking that one can DO and BE (while having acquired Gnosis) after one comes down off the ‘trip.’

Blessed are those who come into Earth as the new wave of consciousness to show you where it's going. They are setting the stage for a new kind of Human.

“the new wave of consciousness to show you where it's going”

The Fourth Reich, a repeat performance?

Blessed is the autistic one who has come to this earth to show you what future Human evolvement looks like!

In other words follow the psychopath into 'creative' chaos?

It's a shock, isn't it? It seems that the kids are unbalanced when they simply don't want to be a part of old linear teaching! You're seeing it all over the earth. The new children are growing up. They're becoming young adults and they'll go into the workplace and the employer will expect linear attitudes. These young people, however, will look at the whole concept of this linear approach and reject it. They don't want to walk up the ladder of experience because their DNA yells that they have already been there.

See above

Go inside for a moment, old soul. Have you been looking at this? I have given you an overwhelming overview of a bigger picture that goes beyond anything you were ever told. This plan is bigger than you were told, and more beautiful than you were told. You're personally part of the plan in a way that you were never told. It's awesome. It's beautiful. Humans are evolving... both the ones who are being born, and the ones who are allowing themselves to reach for this new energy.

Did Kryon mean old soul or old fool?

Listen: Do not be alarmed at what happens on this earth in the next months. Listen to me: Don't go into fear in October. For the potentials that you might feel may or may not be manifest. I'm not going to say anymore.*

Listen to Kryon (for cryin' out loud)
 
Re: Kryon 2008

Phew, he's pretty long winded and vague. I really hate channelings that just go on and on. Much prefer the question and answer style as it seems to have very specific points all throughout. This guy is filled with random blurbs:

Human evolvement usually takes place over a gradual amount of time through the normal birth and death process. It is no different than for any other creature. You don't expect any kind of actual evolution to take place in the life of a single Human while alive. Spiritual evolvement, however, takes place through the birth and death process as well as while the Human is alive during one lifetime. It has to be that way, for the children cannot be the only ones to receive a conceptual consciousness, and that's what's taking place. Those alive right now are starting to shift into what would normally take many generations to create. Human consciousness is shifting, and that's what we told you in 1989.

Like - what the heck is he saying here? Yes, we're born and die. Yes, we learn while we're alive. Yes, we seem to be learning more now then at any other point in time... I mean, state the obvious much?

When you were born, the paradigm of vibration was linear. This is the consciousness of your birth, and it's the same as your immediate ancestors. In your brain, there are walls of consciousness - walls that keep you from conceptual thinking. You are so linear, you can't even hear two conversations at once. Oh, you're capable, but the walls are thick and you don't know you can. You have to keep the separation of communication linear because the linearity of your understanding is also one way. Even the message that I give today through my partner is given in a linear fashion, one word at a time. You can only listen one word at a time. How limiting! Reader, you are reading a line of words! How limiting! Wouldn't it be better to simply touch the book and get this message? But you never think about that, do you? The walls keep you from even conceiving it.

Actually one of my favorite things to do is just listen to a room full of people talking. The din rises and falls and has its own melody, it's interesting to listen to.I get what he's saying though, we can't 'follow' two conversations at once. Gawd - with the amount of empty conversation people tend to have, I doubt I'd want to follow more then one at a time. Though I can't wait to try that 'touching' bit with my next nonfiction book, that will save some time, lol.

The impression I get from him is condescension. 'Oh you linear humans are so silly! That's not how it is, it's this way! Trust me...." without giving any concrete advice, or suggested research areas, or anything that we as linear 3D humans can use he just goes on and on. I'm guessing the channelers aren't interested in the concrete or the everyday application of knowledge and that's why the messages coming through are so fluffy and empty. It was literally hard to force myself to read it, i got about 2/3rds of the way through before giving up on extracting anything meaningful.
 
Re: Kryon 2008

Autobot said:
Like - what the heck is he saying here? Yes, we're born and die. Yes, we learn while we're alive. Yes, we seem to be learning more now then at any other point in time... I mean, state the obvious much?
I wouldn't even give them that much.

Kryon said:
Those alive right now are starting to shift into what would normally take many generations to create. Human consciousness is shifting, and that's what we told you in 1989.
Yes, that point is true, the stupidity and ponerization is happening much more quickly nowadays. Just look at the people getting elected nowadays compared to even 50 years ago. They don't even pretend to cover their lies in a sea of intellectual pontification that makes you pause for a second before realizing its nonsense. Now it's just blatant nonsense and we don't ask for anything more. We're de-volving, and fast.
 
Re: Kryon 2008

It seems somewhat saccharine sweet. Just the kind of stuff we would want to hear to assure us that all is well.

Nobody wants to hear that we are not the top of the food chain! Sweet lies go down a lot better.

best
Anulios
 
Re: Kryon 2008

Prayers for rain said:
There are red flags, as Anart pointed :
"Blessed is the autistic one who has come to this earth to show you what future Human evolvement looks like!"
:scared:

Yes, this really almost seems to speak to devolution.  What I mean by that is that if at one time, humanity did exist on this planet in a sort of a 'golden age', with many more capabilities of communication, perception and ability to utilize the environment in a mutually beneficial way, be it through standing stones or other things - and then 'something changed' and if certain segments of DNA were burned off to limit our abilities and our perceptions, well - could this be the next step of that devolution? 

Could this be the human manifestation of an even higher level of captivity and imprisonment in the physical vehicle?  Or, could it be an attempt at creating a new 'vessel' for future use - the new 'model' to be completely controlled in 4D? 

These are just thoughts off the top of my head and I could be extremely wrong about it, perhaps in 4D, autism will be a 'step up' - - -  but it just seems like if this 'Kryon' person considers this 'evolution', then he may be speaking from a point of view that does not have humanity's best interests at heart - and for some odd reason, the 'new model' idea keeps running around inside my head.  Those are my current two pennies, fwiw...
 
Re: Kryon 2008

Autobot wrote: << Phew, he's pretty long winded and vague. I really hate channelings that just go on and on. >>
Yeah, Kryon is tough that way, and has certainly been milking the UN appearances for a long time, which some segment must see as credibility. When I read this piece, the only part that was recollected was the autism discussion and an impression of the ever-common "you're doing great, just keep tuning out of objective reality, keep it up" message. The autism discussion didn't really go anywhere for me, though. I thought perhaps it might fascinate someone who is interested in autism, but only to make them feel "better" about it somehow, without providing much basis for further research.
 
Re: Kryon 2008

PopHistorian said:
I always feel nearly suffocated by the flattery it heaps upon its followers.

What's even more weird I think is a combination of sugary flattery with a superior and patronizing attitude. He is talking down to them, like a bad teacher in a kindergarten classroom would (fake smiles and exclamations of "awesome job!").

The stuff about autistic kids -- it's word for word what they were saying about indigo children, I am surprised he didn't use the word. It is strange that he puts the serious pathology of profound autism in the same continuum as the young generation's "non-linear thinking" and ADD, which he sees as purely "spiritual". In fact a lot of the latter is due to cultural and environmental factors, at least that's what a number of authors suggest. Other then that, it's nothing new.
 
Three Kryon sessions sent to me by a reader who says they "look interesting." Well, I tried to read the first one and felt paralysis creeping over me... I wondered when the guy was going to make a real point. From what little I read, I realized that Kryon - or Lee - hasn't got any awareness of what is going on here on the BBM and regularly makes statements that are absolutely embarassing. Anyway, ya'll have a look-see:

_http://kryon.com/k_channel09_Madrid1.html

_http://kryon.com/k_channel09_montreal.html

_http://kryon.com/k_channel09_gaithersburg.html
 
Based on what I read (simple analogy of 2d drawings not comprehending 3d reality) seems like they forgot an "a" here.

It should not by Kryon but Kr(a)yons!

That about sums it up. A look-see was more than enough.

;)

Laura said:
Three Kryon sessions sent to me by a reader who says they "look interesting." Well, I tried to read the first one and felt paralysis creeping over me... I wondered when the guy was going to make a real point. From what little I read, I realized that Kryon - or Lee - hasn't got any awareness of what is going on here on the BBM and regularly makes statements that are absolutely embarassing. Anyway, ya'll have a look-see:

_http://kryon.com/k_channel09_gaithersburg.html

_http://kryon.com/k_channel09_montreal.html

_http://kryon.com/k_channel09_gaithersburg.html
 
Re: Kryon 2008

So if Lee is a buddy of the UN and autistic children are the 'evolved ones,' then would it be a far stretch to say that perhaps the fact that vaccines are related to rendering children autistic, the world government is 'trying to evolve us' through vaccines and other environmental poisons?

Akkk!

Except de-evolve is more accurate obviously...


anart said:
Lúthien said:
There are red flags, as Anart pointed :
"Blessed is the autistic one who has come to this earth to show you what future Human evolvement looks like!"
:scared:

Yes, this really almost seems to speak to devolution. What I mean by that is that if at one time, humanity did exist on this planet in a sort of a 'golden age', with many more capabilities of communication, perception and ability to utilize the environment in a mutually beneficial way, be it through standing stones or other things - and then 'something changed' and if certain segments of DNA were burned off to limit our abilities and our perceptions, well - could this be the next step of that devolution?

Could this be the human manifestation of an even higher level of captivity and imprisonment in the physical vehicle? Or, could it be an attempt at creating a new 'vessel' for future use - the new 'model' to be completely controlled in 4D?

These are just thoughts off the top of my head and I could be extremely wrong about it, perhaps in 4D, autism will be a 'step up' - - - but it just seems like if this 'Kryon' person considers this 'evolution', then he may be speaking from a point of view that does not have humanity's best interests at heart - and for some odd reason, the 'new model' idea keeps running around inside my head. Those are my current two pennies, fwiw...
 
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