Low dose Lithium for better mental health

About a year has passed since the last post in this thread, any conclusions from those trying Lithium Orotate?

I came across the post by Laura while searching shingles, and am once again amazed and grateful for your research tenacity. Thank you, thank you, repeat infinity.

This week, a dear friend of mine had a tooth infection and had it pulled and a few days later, her shingles flared up. She's had shingles once before and has suffered from eczema and migraines most her life. Nothing the MDs perscribed helped, until a different Naturopathic oriented MD started her on low dose Iodine, Magnesium and an allergy diet, as well as avoiding numerous chemicals she tested positive for allergies. She still would get occasional migraines, but fewer than she experienced prior to the new treatment.

Now for a second case: For the last few weeks, I had been doing some research for my friend's(mentioned above) client's daughter who got really sick after graduating with honors from a college in Boston(2016) They finally diagnosed her with EBV (Epstein barr virus) through a titer, but the treatment hasn't helped, and after going to two different clinics and several specialists they are still grasping at treatment options. She's says she feels like a guinea pig and has little, if any confidence they know what's going on with her. At this point they seem to be basically treating symptoms. She's regressing quickly, and feel time is of the essence because her lower brain stem is so inflamed and swollen she has to be monitored when she sleeps. If her head turns a certain way, she'll stop breathing! She's literally wasting away. What I know regarding her post treatment, is that she's on O2, she's on a very restrictive, anti-allergy diet and more recently, a low sulfru diet because of high Sulfur in the blood. Her skin is so sensitive she can't stand to have anything on her skin or even sit in a tub of water. Many of the symptoms of CFS/ME were noted, as well.

Regarding the graduate, what I first came across while searching was that EBV can be persistent after treatment because it can be activated(brought out of latency) by an infectious or stressful event. Finals before graduating could be a stressful event, but with her being out East in Lyme territory, I considered that Lyme, or co-infection of Lyme could have been a trigger that's gone unresolved. Sent some articles to her regarding that. After reading through Stephen H Buhner's Healing Lyme book, and trying to understand the cytokine system, went to search again and found information on the VNIH (Vagus Nerve Infection Hypothesis) and fortunately came across Gaby's reader-friendly article on Heart Atttacks and the relationship to the Herpes virus and Vagus nerve infection: http://health-matrix.net/2013/08/06/heart-attacks-cfs-herpes-virus-infection-and-the-vagus-nerve/ What a great piece of writing, big Thank You! I passed this on to friend's client, as well.

So, at this point is about the time my friend begins going through her tooth extraction/shingles re-emergence.

This morning, after texting my very sick friend and hearing that she was in bed miserable, I went on the forum to search for shingles and came across Laura's post in this thread which includes a sentence on Lithium Orotate as a promising treatment for shingles.

My general question after these round about quests, which have seemed to intertwine, has left me wondering a few things.

Is it possible that Herpes Zoster can infect the vagus nerve, as other Herpes viruses do... hypothetically? It seems possible since shingles reek havoc on the nervous system. And since the EBV infects the CNS as well, could a vagus nerve infection be suspected when EBV persists post antiviral treatment and becomes a chronic illness...hypothetically? The associations of these two viruses with other chronic and acute health conditions seems to command urgency in resolving these infections ASAP, OSIT.

If lithium orotate can cross the blood brain barrier, would it be beneficial for a suspected infected vagus nerve?
And if so, could this be a beneficial supplement to include for someone with chronic Lyme infection/syndrome, as well?

The quote in Laura's post mentions that the higher dose is needed "to drive" lithium into the cells. What is considered a dose safe for these conditions, that is, if Lithium orotate would be a beneficial supplement? ( it mentions number of caps, but not dosage)

I'm not prescribing anything to anyone, especially when sick friends are already working with professionals. Prefer to just steer them toward up to date information/research which they can share with their practitioners.

Thank you for any insight on these queries.
 
A Doctor of integrative medicine I've been consulting with recently suggested that I take 5mg of Lithium a day for detoxification purposes, so I looked up the info on this trace mineral and was pleasantly surprised to learn of the many benefits it would seem to have for brain health (and that its been discussed here previously).

Sott recently carried this short article on its effect on mood:


But for a more in-depth look at it, see Gaby's post earlier in this thread, and the following article; among other things, the physician who wrote it says that low-dose supplementation with Lithium assists those with Alzheimer's, mood disorders, ADHD, and gene expression - among other issues.

Lithium: The Untold Story of the Magic Mineral That Charges Cell Phones and Preserves Memory
 
This article was published 4 days ago, and though the sample was small and the study was a retrospective analysis of health records, I think it's interesting, and we'll wait to see if there are more follow-ups and what the results might show:

Lithium may decrease risk of developing dementia


Researchers have identified a link suggesting that lithium could decrease the risk of developing dementia, which affects nearly one million people in the UK.

The researchers, from the University of Cambridge, conducted a retrospective analysis of the health records of nearly 30,000 patients from Cambridgeshire and Peterborough NHS Foundation Trust. The patients were all over the age of 50 and accessed NHS mental health services between 2005 and 2019.

The analysis suggested that patients who received lithium were less likely to develop dementia than those who did not, although the overall number of patients who received lithium was small.

Their findings, reported in the journal PLoS Medicine, support the possibility that lithium could be a preventative treatment for dementia, and could be progressed to large randomised controlled trials.

Dementia is the leading cause of death in elderly Western populations, but no preventative treatments are currently available: more than 55 million people worldwide have dementia, with Alzheimer's disease the most common form.

"The number of people with dementia continues to grow, which puts huge pressure on healthcare systems," said Dr Shanquan Chen from Cambridge's Department of Psychiatry, the paper's first author. "It's been estimated that delaying the onset of dementia by just five years could reduce its prevalence and economic impact by as much as 40 percent."

Previous studies have proposed lithium as a potential treatment for those who have already been diagnosed with dementia or early cognitive impairment, but it is unclear whether it can delay or even prevent the development of dementia altogether, as these studies have been limited in size.

Lithium is a mood stabiliser usually prescribed for conditions such as bipolar affective disorder and depression. "Bipolar disorder and depression are considered to put people at increased risk of dementia, so we had to make sure to account for this in our analysis," said Chen.

Chen and his colleagues analysed data from patients who accessed mental health services from Cambridgeshire and Peterborough NHS Foundation Trust between 2005 and 2019. Patients were all over 50 years of age, received at least a one-year follow-up appointment, and had not been previously diagnosed with either mild cognitive impairment or dementia.

Of the 29,618 patients in the study cohort, 548 patients had been treated with lithium and 29,070 had not. Their mean age was just under 74 years, and approximately 40% of patients were male.

For the group that had received lithium, 53, or 9.7%, were diagnosed with dementia. For the group that had not received lithium, 3,244, or 11.2%, were diagnosed with dementia.


After controlling for factors such as smoking, other medications, and other physical and mental illnesses, lithium use was associated with a lower risk of dementia, both for short and long-term users. However, since the overall number of patients receiving lithium was small and this was an observational study, larger clinical trials would be needed to establish lithium as a potential treatment for dementia.

Another limitation of the study was the number of patients who had been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, which is normally associated with an increased risk of dementia
. "We expected to find that patients with bipolar disorder were more likely to develop dementia, since that is the most common reason to be prescribed lithium, but our analysis suggested the opposite," said Chen. "It's far too early to say for sure, but it's possible that lithium might reduce the risk of dementia in people with bipolar disorder."

This paper supports others which have suggested lithium might be helpful in dementia. Further experimental medicine and clinical studies are now needed to see if lithium really is helpful in these conditions.

The research was supported in part by the UK Medical Research Council and the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) Cambridge Biomedical Research Centre.


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Journal Reference:
  1. Shanquan Chen, Benjamin R. Underwood, Peter B. Jones, Jonathan R. Lewis, Rudolf N. Cardinal. Association between lithium use and the incidence of dementia and its subtypes: A retrospective cohort study. PLOS Medicine, 2022; 19 (3): e1003941 DOI: 10.1371/journal.pmed.1003941
 
Another interesting update on low dose lithium:

Lithium, the Essential Trace Element​

The key element against brain fog, long-COVID/post-vac syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, Alzheimer's – and even indoctrination?


The ability to live a long and healthy life depends on the optimal functioning of both our mental and physical immune systems. These systems do not operate independently; they share common needs (species-specific lifestyle, micronutrients, etc.) and mutually influence each other. The mental immune system includes our experiential knowledge, our natural curiosity, and our social and planning skills - fundamental functions of our autobiographical memory center (hippocampus). The lifelong production of new brain cells in the hippocampus (adult hippocampal neurogenesis) is essential for maintaining its function and thus mental immunity. Conversely, the function of the body's immune system depends on a balanced immune response to pathogens or injury. This involves both the initial activation of pro-inflammatory messengers, where necessary, and the equally effective deactivation and activation of anti-inflammatory messengers at the appropriate time. These, in turn, serve to repair damaged cells and restore regulated balance (homeostasis).

The acute release of pro-inflammatory messengers inhibits neurogenesis in the adult hippocampus, a process that may be beneficial to the healing process, but becomes problematic when this neuroinflammatory release of these cytokines becomes chronic and continuously damages the mental immune system. This is the beginning of a vicious cycle that is difficult to break: The long-term dysfunction of the hippocampus leads to reduced psychological resilience, which triggers an excessive and chronic stress response, which in turn overactivates the brain's immune system and leads to an increased and particularly persistent release of pro-inflammatory messengers.

Microdosing lithium can reduce the risk of entering this life-threatening cycle in the first place. A slightly higher dosage even offers the legitimate hope of breaking an existing cycle. The catch: Although there is ample scientific evidence that lithium, in addition to its well-known therapeutic benefits, is also an essential trace element, it is not yet recognized as such and, for example, cannot be marketed as a dietary supplement in most EU member states. Although microdosed lithium is available in the U.S. as OCT, its non-essential status (and the misperceived risk of side effects known from macrodosing in the treatment from bipolar disorder) inhibits its wider use as a natural preventative measure against chronic inflammation.


Lithium, Essential for Both the Mental and Physical Immune Systems

There are numerous arguments in favour of lithium being an essential trace element, even though it is not yet recognized as such. A deficiency can lead to faulty functioning not only of the mental but also of the physical immune system. In my book "Alzheimer's is Curable," published in 2015 (so far only in German), I pointed out the intolerable situation for our health maintenance that lithium is not officially recognized as an essential trace element. The significance of microdosed lithium for mental health was also detailed in my scientific article Unified Theory of Alzheimer's Disease (UTAD): Implications for Prevention and Curative Therapy, published in July 2016.i Lithium serves a variety of functions in the body, as I will show in a few examples here. Not only does it help reduce the risk of Alzheimer's dementia or depression. Even a very small increase in lithium intake (due to slightly different concentrations in tap water) can prolong life expectancy and may even be lifesaving by reducing the suicide rate, as we have known for several years from Japanese and many other studies.ii With around 730,000 officially confirmed suicides worldwide in 2019 alone (the number of unreported cases is always higher), a simple preventive measure, such as microdosed lithium would actually be longed for, if we didn't already know from studies that we could rely on this powerful ally in the fight against this serious global problem; especially since 2020, when the suicide rate has risen drastically once again (most likely due to the coronavirus measures and the constant fear propaganda).iii My understanding of the connection between lithium deficiency, persistent fear propaganda and increased rates of despair and suicide is that without a functioning mental immune system we are hardly able to correctly assess the constantly exaggerated threat scenarios (a core competence of the hippocampus, as I explain in detail in my book The Indoctrinated Brain). The bitter realization of recent years that our health care system is rather a disease system can also, with a healthy hippocampus, be understood as a fruitful insight that does not leave us stunned, but rather encourages us to focus more on personal responsibility and to work toward natural health that does not make us dependent on the pharmaceutical cartels. However, if this does not succeed and stress gets out of hand, the self-destructive vicious cycle of neuroinflammation mentioned earlier (and illustrated and explained in detail in the diagram below) occurs, which could be interrupted by low-dose lithium.

However, lithium should be considered a vital trace element not only because of its significant effect on mental health, as I explained in my book The Corona Syndrome in 2021. Lithium should also have earned this status because of its multipotency in regulating the body's immune system. This was known long before the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.iv It was already known that lithium reduces the infectivity of a variety of DNA and RNA viruses. And particularly relevant for SARS-CoV-2: It was shown in 2007 that lithium specifically inhibits the growth of coronaviruses.v In addition to its various antiviral properties, this trace element modulates or reduces the activity of several important molecular signal transducers, such as GSK3 in particular. This is also the reason why not only vitamin D deficiency but also lithium deficiency enables the development of the so-called cytokine storm (an overreaction of the immune system), which is the actual reason for the severe to fatal course of SARS-CoV-2: It has been known since the beginning of the pandemic that it is not the virus itself that kills, but a misdirected and therefore overreacting immune system - but politicians and the media generally fail to mention how easy it is for everyone to constitutionally protect themselves against such overreactions. As early as June 2021 in my book The Corona Syndrome (in German language only), I suggested lithium as the means of choice to prevent the life-threatening effects of a SARS-CoV-2 infection, in addition to adequate vitamin D supplementation for the population. There were several groups of scientists and doctors who were pointing this out as well in their scientific publications. vi

But these suggestions were generally ignored, despite the fact that a first successful clinical application of lithium in six separate COVID-19 cases was published in August 2020. Although the causal relationship indicated in the publication should have been regarded as a sensation, this inexpensive, readily available (and non-patentable) trace element did not receive the life-saving attention it deserved.vii The authors of this study justified their approach and explained the positive results as follows: "Lithium has shown the capacity to: a) inhibit the replication of several types of viruses, some of which are similar to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, b) increase the immune response by reducing lymphopenia [lack of immune cells due to their overconsumption in severe COVID-19 courses], and c) reduce inflammation by preventing or reducing the cytokine storm [the primary cause of severe courses, as mentioned above]." However, the success of the study and the clarity of the science behind it paved the way for a larger, placebo-controlled clinical trial to be published in 2022.viii The results were remarkable: compared to the COVID-19 patients in the control group who did not receive lithium, the length of hospital stay in the lithium group was halved (!). The disease stabilized and the patients improved so quickly on lithium that none had to be admitted to intensive care. In the control group, two out of 15 patients required intensive care and one eventually died.

Lithium is Effective Even in Microdoses

Lithium is an essential trace element as it fulfills the crucial criterion of regulating, even in micro quantities, cellular processes that are crucial for healthy physical and mental development and for maintaining our health.ix To understand the highly efficient effect of lithium, it is necessary to imagine every single cell in our body as an information-processing microprocessor that receives signals from its environment through receptors on the cell surface (and some inside the cell), evaluates them, and finally sends its "findings" back to the rest of the organism in the form of new signals. This highly complex control program is vital not only for individual cells, but also for the organs they form and, ultimately, for our very existence.

The activity of master regulators like GSK3, which receive and process signals within the cell are often regulated by trace elements such as lithium (but also magnesium, for example). The concentration of these trace elements is therefore crucial not only for our well-being, but also for our survival. There is strong evidence that GSK3 has been controlling essential biological processes for an astonishing 500 million years or more.x Even the first single-celled microorganisms must have possessed the GSK3 protein. And this is so amazing because there is strong evidence that the supposedly non-essential lithium was already contributing in micro quantities to the activity and function of GSK3 and to cellular and organic balance (homeostasis) so early in evolution. As one of the oldest signaling regulators in evolutionary history, GSK3 not only plays a central role in the "cellular processor" of countless life forms, but also influences the function of more than 80 proteins (many of which are signal transducers themselves).

Microdosed Lithium: The Key Element Against Post-Spike Syndrome (Long-COVID and Post-Vac), Chronic Fatigue, Depression and Alzheimer's?

As a master regulator, GSK3 is responsible for controlling the physical as well as the mental immune system. When GSK3 is activated, pro-inflammatory mediators are released; when the master regulator is inactive, anti-inflammatory mediators are produced and released. Lithium reduces the activity or inhibits the activation of GSK3 and thus has an anti-inflammatory effect. Numerous studies have shown that even very low blood levels of lithium reduce the risk of developing chronic neuroinflammation. Therefore, in my opinion, low-dose lithium can and should be used to try to break the vicious circle of neuroinflammation described below, which is set in motion by chronic anxiety scenarios, but also by the S1 subunit of the spike protein (both after SARS-CoV-2 infection and after spike mRNA injection). According to scientifically convincing studies, this vicious circle, as shown in the following diagram, is responsible for the "brain fog" phenomenon and thus for the psychological effects of long-COVID and post-VAC syndrome, which I summarize under the term Spikeopathy (or post-spike syndrome) because of the common trigger.

In the following, we will go through the steps in the diagram below. I have deliberately refrained from using the names or abbreviations of some of the signaling molecules if they do not add to the understanding. At the beginning of each numbered paragraph, I will summarize each step in a generally understandable but abbreviated way. If you find the more detailed information below too technical, you can skip to the next section. Keep reading for a clear and straightforward explanation of lithium's importance, located further below.


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  1. Both infection with SARS-CoV-2 and injection of genetic material (mRNA) encoding the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 lead to accumulation of the S1 subunit of the spike protein in the brain. The nearly identical neuropathologic consequences (Long-COVID or Post-Vac) are now referred to as Spikeopathy.xi
Expansion: An autopsy study shows this clearly.xii The authors write, among other things: „The [experimental] pike protein alone caused cell death in the brain,highlighting a direct effect on brain tissue Furthermore, we observed the presence of spike protein in the skull of deceased long after their COVID-19 infection, suggesting that the spike’s persistence may contribute to long-term neurological symptoms.”


  1. A first step towards the neuropathological effects and psychological manifestations of Spikeopathy begins with the binding of the S1 subunit or protein to a sensor molecule (TLR4), which belongs to the evolutionarily ancient family of so-called "danger recognition receptors". The pathogen sensor molecule is known as TLR4 (toll-like receptor). It is located on the cell surface of microglia, the immune cells of the brain.xiii By activating TLR4, the danger posed by the pathogen is recognized and reported to the entire immune system via pro-inflammatory messengers. We will take a closer look at the signaling chain below.
Expansion: Receptors such as TLR4 are part of the innate immune system, which has been optimized over hundreds of millions of years of evolution in complex organisms to recognize basic patterns in pathogens (viruses, bacteria or fungi) and activate the adaptive immune system by releasing pro-inflammatory cytokines. Of the many different TLRs that humans possess, almost all family members recognize certain parts of coronaviruses, including SARS-CoV-2.xiv These recognized common patterns are referred to as PAMPs (Pathogen-Associated Molecular Patterns). Since all coronaviruses have spikes, they are also commonly recognized. The fact that both mice and humans recognize spike proteins of coronaviruses as PAMPs via TLR4 (and many other TLRs) indicates that this class of viruses has existed as pathogens for many millions of years and that an innate defense strategy (like TLR recognition) has already evolved in the common ancestor of mice and humans.


  1. The transmitted signal is forwarded to and activates the master regulator GSK3.
Expansion: Recognition of the S1 subunit by TLR4 leads to activation of a signaling cascade that is mediated by the multifunctional intracellular master regulator GSK3. GSK3 is also highly conserved in evolutionary terms and had essential functions in the common ancestor of humans and amoeba-like protozoa several hundred million years ago, which could still be influenced by lithium (!) in the same way in both organisms today - and thus very likely even back then - in a way that was crucial for life.xv


  1. The resulting activation of GSK3 then triggers another signal that leads to the production and release of pro-inflammatory mediators by the cells.
Expansion: GSK3, activated by the S1 protein activated TLR4, in turn activates the immunological transcription factor NF-kB, in part by dissociating it from its inhibitor (iKBα). NF-kB then migrates to the nucleus, where it turns on a long list of genes that encode pro-inflammatory cytokines. These genes include those for IL-6, TNFα and NLRP3. The latter is an essential component of the inflammosome. The inflammosome is a multiprotein complex of the innate immune system that is also responsible for activating inflammatory responses, such as the release of the pro-inflammatory cytokine IL-1β.


  1. The pro-inflammatory mediators (such as IL-1β, IL-6, and TNFα) now released in the brain tissue block the production of new neurons in the hippocampus, which is necessary to maintain many of its autobiographical memory functions.xvi In the case of acute inflammation, this inhibition is not a serious problem; it may even be an evolutionary advantage, since it (psychologically) immobilizes the patient until the acute infection is over, thus aiding the healing process. However, if the neuroinflammation becomes chronic, e.g. due to the permanent presence of a spike protein (or its S1 subunit) in the brain, or due to equally chronic psychological stress, the hippocampus suffers considerable damage.
Expansion: Inhibition of GSK3 activity in microglia is common to almost all types of antidepressants and is most likely their central mechanism of action. Ultimately, this inhibition leads directly and indirectly to an increase in hippocampal neurogenesis, which is the actual antidepressant effect.xvii


  1. The chronic loss of function of the hippocampal memory center due to permanently impaired hippocampal neurogenesis explains a large part of the post-spike symptoms. These include depressive moods, drive problems, memory disorders and increased anxiety symptoms as a result of reduced psychological resilience. The frequently described inability to concentrate (brain fog) in connection with long-COVID or post-vac is also highly likely to have a causal relationship.
Expansion: This is consistent with the fact that people with mutations in the TLR4 gene that increase its activity are more likely to develop long-COVID symptoms than the rest of the population. In contrast, individuals with mutations that decrease the activity of their TLR4 gene have a lower risk of long-COVID. This relationship has been confirmed as causal in animal models, suggesting that Spikeopathy (brain fog, etc.) most likely results from the signaling cascade shown here.xviii


  1. The neuroinflammatory inhibition of hippocampal neurogenesis and the resulting reduction in mental resilience initially increases the risk of developing depression and, in the long term, even Alzheimer's disease or hippocampal dementia, which are its main causes.xix
Expansion: Due to the mechanisms shown here, the S1 subunit is also a trigger for the enormous increase in new cases of these two neurological diseases since 2020 (in addition to many other factors, which I describe in detail in my book The Indoctrinated Brain). The molecular connections, as shown in the diagram above, are now well understood.xx

However, the neuroinflammatory vicious circle can be triggered not only by pathogens or their products, but also by constant overstimulation or chronic (neurotoxic) stress.

As a result of neurotoxic cell damage, molecules are released from inside the cell. Some of these are referred to as DAMPs in analogy to the PAMPs mentioned above: Danger-Associated Molecular Patterns.xxi They also activate TLR4 and can set the vicious circle of neuroinflammation in motion. The consequences are depression and, in the long term, even Alzheimer's disease. However, if the neuroinflammatory vicious circle (through DAMPs or PAMPs) has already been set in motion, a challenge or even moderate mental stress, which under other circumstances can have a positive stimulating effect, can lead to excessive DAMP release in a state of reduced mental resilience.

Expansion: In fact, psychological trauma (threats, isolation, fear-inducing events, loss of a partner) is more likely to result in pre- or post-traumatic stress disorder (including hippocampal shrinkage), the higher the measurable levels of these pro-inflammatory messengers. This suggests a causal relationship between these disorders and neuroinflammatory processes. This causal relationship can be clearly seen in the graph.


  1. Like the spike and S1 proteins (which belong to the PAMP group), DAMPs are also potent activators of the above-mentioned danger recognition sensor in the brain (TLR4). Both can therefore be at the beginning of this vicious circle and thus ensure via the same signaling pathway that inflammation-promoting messenger substances are constantly and increasingly released. DAMPs and PAMPs, i.e. psychological stress (fear propaganda) as well as exposure to products of pathogens (S1 protein through infection or mRNA injection program) can maintain the vicious circle of neuroinflammation and even reinforce each other.
Expansion: The activation of the hazard recognition signaling chain (via TLR4) by both mechanisms (spikes/PAMPs and neurotoxic stress products/DAMPs) shown in the graphic also provides an explanation for why people who were already under severe psychological stress (due to depression, anxiety, worry, perceived stress and loneliness) before SARS-CoV-2 infection or spike mRNA injections have been shown to be more likely to develop post-spike syndrome.xxii The reason: Both influences intensify the neuroinflammatory disease process, as has been shown in animal experiments. This is known as priming. So if you combine spike exposure (PAMPs) with psychological stress (DAMPs), as has been increasingly the case since 2020, and then take into account the spike mRNA injection program from 2021, which has further exacerbated the problem described, the risk of developing Spikeopathy, as described in The Indoctrinated Brain, is once again significantly increased.


  1. Because the neuroinflammatory cycle is self-perpetuating, can be exacerbated, and is devastating to mental health, it is extremely important to break it as quickly and effectively as possible. Because the trace element lithium down-regulates the activity of the master regulator GSK3, it helps interrupt this neuroinflammatory signaling chain.As a result, the production of neuroinflammatory mediators is reduced. As the activity of the master regulator (GSK3) is reduced, anti-inflammatory messengers are actually activated. AAs a result, hippocampal neurogenesis is no longer blocked, but actually activated by lithium (more on this below). Side effects are not expected, as lithium in trace concentrations acts as a natural regulator (as opposed to an almost complete blockade of GSK3 function, as is achieved with macro doses in bipolar disorder).xxiii You can read more about what lithium levels are considered "natural" later.

With this in mind, the State University of New York at Buffalo in the USA began a randomized, placebo-controlled study with low-dose lithium in patients with post-spike symptoms (such as brain fog) in November 2022.xxiv Thomas J. Guttuso, physician and professor of neurology at the Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences, is the leader of the study. The university's website and a press release explain what prompted the study: "Because long COVID [and thus Post-Spike] is believed to stem from chronic inflammation and lithium has known anti-inflammatory actions, Guttuso decided to recommend that a patient try low-dose lithium for persistent long COVID symptoms.”xxv The result was astonishing. „I was shocked when the patient saw improvement within a matter of days,”, Guttuso says in the university's press release. It also reports that during the pandemic, Spanish researchers were able to show that patients who were already taking lithium for bipolar disorder and were acutely infected with COVID-19 and hospitalized had better outcomes than patients who were not taking lithium. Guttuso's success led other doctors to start referring their long-COVID patients to him, according to the report: “Eventually, he was treating 10 additional long COVID patients with low-dose lithium; nine saw improvement from lithium. None [as expected] experienced side effects.“


Other Vital Effects of Lithium

When supplied in microdosed (essential) quantities, lithium regulates several other signaling molecules in addition to GSK3. This explains its diverse, health-promoting functions, which I would like to explain below.

Autophagy: Lithium activates both "microautophagy" and "autophagy", thereby stimulating a process of cell and tissue rejuvenation.xxvi This process breaks down misfolded proteins and obsolete cell organelles such as mitochondria (the powerhouses of our cells) that are no longer functioning optimally (e.g., when damaged by the spike protein). There is already compelling evidence that this cleaning process of autophagy also serves to eliminate viral components or reduce the severity of infection (SARS-CoV-2 is so successful in part because it disrupts or blocks this protective process of autophagy).xxvii In particular, active microautophagy might even support the degradation of the neurotoxic spike protein or its S1 subunit, thus helping to complete the healing process.xxviii Autophagy of spike-damaged mitochondria (in interaction with mitochondriogenesis, see next point) in turn supports the restoration of neuronal performance through improved energy metabolism. Finally, it prevents cell death (apoptosis) of damaged neurons.

Intermittent fasting or ketogenesis (also supported by coconut oil or ketogenic medium-chain fatty acids) also help to activate autophagy, as I have described in my books Alzheimer's is curable and The formula against Alzheimer's (unfortunately not yet published in English).

Mitochondriogenesis: Lithium activates (among other things by inhibiting GSK3) the so-called process of mitochondriogenesis, i.e. the production of new, healthy cellular power plants.xxix Because of the many other functions of mitochondria, the importance of this mechanism to our health and performance should not be underestimated.xxx This life-prolonging effect of lithium by improving mitochondrial function is probably true throughout the animal kingdom; at least it has been clearly demonstrated in a nematode, one of the simplest model organisms.xxxi Even there, lithium leads to a significant life extension.

Neurogenesis: As previously mentioned, lithium activates adult hippocampal neurogenesis by inhibiting GSK3 (and several other mechanisms)xxxii. Combined with the other effects of lithium mentioned above, this explains the antidepressant and Alzheimer's preventive properties of this underrated element.xxxiii In the early stages of Alzheimer's disease, a randomized clinical trial of microdosed lithium was able to stabilize the disease for 15 months, something no drug has been able to do.xxxiv


Systemic Prevention and Therapy of Neuroinflammation: All of the processes activated by lithium (inhibition of excessive inflammatory response and neuroinflammation, as well as activation of autophagy, mitochondriogenesis, and adult hippocampal neurogenesis) have an increased chance of success if they are supported by a healthy (species-appropriate) lifestyle, such as a healthy diet. Therefore, on my website I provide further information on how to support these health-promoting processes, for example with herbal agents. This is intended both as a beneficial measure against spike protein and to support hippocampal health in general (see my article on .

I plan an article on anti-spike herbs & herbs for hippocampal health. Subscribe to my Substack to be informed as soon as I put more information online for free:


Inadequate Lithium Intake in the General Population

Let's take a closer look at the numbers for a few paragraphs on the supply of lithium to the general population. In a study from 2020, an international team of researchers found a plasma concentration of 1 μg/L lithium (slightly rounded up) in a German study group with an average age of 61 years, in which no one was already taking lithium medication. However, the range of this value is only about 9 percent and depends on which foods are consumed more frequently (according to the authors, slightly higher values for potatoes and root vegetables).xxxv This value corresponds to the reference value of a Berlin laboratory, which is given as 0.35-1.45 μg/L.xxxvi It is therefore the defined "normal value" that can currently be achieved with a normal diet (in Germany, in this case).

The average dietary intake of lithium in Germany can be estimated using the results of a "mineral water study" conducted the previous year.xxxvii BA single dose of approximately 2.6, 260, or 2,600 μg lithium (found in various mineral waters) resulted in maximum lithium levels of approximately 1, 10, or 90 μg/L. However, these are maximum values measured 30 minutes after ingestion. The average lithium level over the entire day was only 0.3, 3, or 30 μg/L. This means that the amount of lithium ingested and the subsequent blood concentration correlate well. Therefore, if only one milligram (mg) of lithium is taken per day, the plasma level should be estimated to be about 10 μg/L, which is about 10 times the reference value of about 1 μg/L given above. This means that the daily dietary intake of lithium in the above study group was one tenth, or should be estimated at about 100 μg lithium.

However, the "normal value" mentioned above is neither natural nor species-appropriate. A diet rich in marine fish or seafood would be natural and normal in evolutionary terms, with a daily intake of several mg of lithium, i.e. at least ten times the usual amount today.xxxviii The "species-appropriate" lithium level would therefore be a factor of 10-20 above the currently measured "normality" or reference range, which therefore describes a lithium deficiency state that is common today. It is very likely that a daily intake of about 1 mg of lithium is sufficient to significantly reduce the risk of falling into a chronic neuroinflammatory process (see above), the neuropathological consequences of which include the development of depression, Alzheimer's dementia and some other mental illnesses (as well as an increased suicide rate). This amount of about 1 mg is therefore considered by many scientists to be an essential daily intake.xxxix

Since there is no reliable and recommended food source that accumulates enough lithium (sea fish and seafood are problematic due to toxin contamination and are not available in sufficient quantities for all people), and lithium is not approved as a dietary supplement in many countries, the only alternative to targeted supplementation is actually lithium-containing mineral water. However, this method of procurement is likely to be very expensive if you want to ensure stable lithium levels.xl This is due to the fact that free or unbound lithium ions, which are predominantly found in dissolved form in mineral water, have a high bioavailability (they are quickly and efficiently absorbed in the intestine), but are also very quickly excreted via the kidneys. Their half-life is only about 6 hours.xli This reduces the lithium level, which rises very quickly after ingestion, by a factor of about 16 per day with about four half-lives per day. In addition to the cost and the enormous amount of drinking water required depending on the lithium content, a high concentration in the water indicates a possible volcanic source. It cannot be ruled out that the water may also be contaminated with toxic metals such as uranium, as has been shown in some cases.xlii

So what is the alternative? I recommend getting lithium after consulting with a medical doctor and from pharmacies that guarantee high quality and purity. In some countries, the only way to get it without a prescription is illegally from abroad. However, I strongly advise against this, firstly because the quality of the product is not guaranteed, and secondly because a doctor's assessment is important for the therapeutic use of lithium, even in the "low dose" range (see below, for example, the treatment of "Spikeopathy (Long-COVID and Post-Vac)".

Lithium orotate, the better lithium?

Lithium orotate is superior to free lithium as found in mineral water, but also to other lithium salts. On the one hand, it ensures a more stable lithium level and, above all, higher concentrations in the brain.

Orotate is an endogenous molecule that is produced by the body only in small amounts and must be ingested daily with food to cover its needs. A deficiency results in impaired brain function, especially memory. In elderly rats, orotate supplementation has been shown to reverse orotate deficiency memory impairment.xliii It is used to produce genetic building blocks needed in the brain, particularly for the formation of new nerve cells in the hippocampus. This may explain the memory problems associated with deficiency. Orotate (and thus lithium orotate) is therefore efficiently transported across the blood-brain barrier by a special mechanism to counteract any impairment of brain function.

For the same reason, lithium bound to orotate is also well absorbed in the intestine (there is also a special transport mechanism for orotate). At the same time, however, lithium bound to orotate is excreted more slowly than free lithium ions. This leads to an estimated half-life of lithium orotate of more than one day, so that although the same amount of lithium (in the form of orotate) initially reaches a blood level comparable to that after ingestion of free lithium ions with mineral water, it remains elevated for much longer due to the binding to orotate.xliv To achieve the same average lithium level with mineral water, several liters would have to be drunk, depending on the lithium content, which not only drives up the cost, but is also unrealistic or impractical. Since this special transport mechanism across the blood-brain barrier is not available for free lithium or other lithium salts, lithium orotate is superior to these, especially if lithium is to contribute to improving brain function (for which, as described, orotate itself is also beneficial).xlv

Therefore, to achieve the same concentration in the brain and prevent neuroinflammation, it is sufficient to take smaller doses than with lithium salts such as lithium acetate or lithium carbonate, which have been used primarily for bipolar disorder. This also increases the threshold above which lithium intake would have toxic effects. According to animal studies, side effects are not observed even at concentrations many times higher than those required to prevent or break the neuroinflammatory vicious cycle: "In a 28-day, repeated-dose oral toxicity study, rats were administered 0, 100, 200, or 400 mg/kg body weight/day of lithium orotate by gavage. No toxicity or target organs were identified; therefore, a no observed adverse effect level was determined as 400 mg/kg body weight/day. These results are supportive of the lack of a postmarket safety signal from several decades of human consumption.“xlvi

Correct dosage of lithium orotate

Bipolar Disorder: To determine the optimal daily dose of lithium orotate, it is worth looking at the common practice of dosing other lithium salts, e.g., in the symptomatic treatment of bipolar disorder. Here, the target blood serum concentration is 0.8 to 1.2 mM (mmol/L), with more than 1.5 mM considered toxic. This results in a very low therapeutic range of about 1.5.xlvii The therapeutic range of a drug describes the relative distance between the therapeutic dose (or blood concentration) at which 50 percent of those treated experience a positive effect and a dose (blood concentration) that produces a toxic effect in 50 percent of those treated. Because the wider the therapeutic range of a drug, the safer it is, lithium treatment for bipolar disorder has many side effects and is not without danger. Even elevated serum lithium levels of 1.5-2.0 mM can have mild, though usually reversible, toxic effects on the kidneys, liver, heart, and endocrine glands. Serum levels above 2 mM may be associated with neurological symptoms, including cerebellar dysfunction. This narrow therapeutic window is one reason why most clinical laboratories specialize in determining lithium levels at this high concentration range and are unable to determine natural lithium levels, which are orders of magnitude lower. By way of comparison, let's consider the possibility of ingestion via drinking water: 1 mg of lithium ingested via mineral water results in a lithium level of approximately 10 μg/L or 0.0014 mM. This is only about one thousandth (!) of the toxic concentration of about 1.5 mM. To achieve blood levels of up to 1.0 mM, macrodosing of up to one gram of lithium carbonate or a lithium intake of about 200 mg per day may be necessary.

COVID-19: A slightly lower daily intake of a total of 80 mg of lithium (which would be about the molecular proportion of pure lithium in 400 mg of lithium carbonate) was enough to save the lives of all those seriously ill with COVID-19.xlviii It kept them out of intensive care and cut their hospital stays in half compared to the control group. However, the goal here was to prevent an acute cytokine storm triggered by a misguided immune system throughout the body or systemically, not just chronic neuroinflammation. This is probably the reason why a relatively high dosage was used or attempted here: After all, it was a matter of life and death, and the effect had to be fast and effective. I can well imagine that lower doses might have achieved the goal. Future studies will have to clarify this.


Spikeopathy (Long-COVID and Post-Vac): There is strong evidence that low-dose lithium should be able to break the vicious cycle of neuroinflammation caused by the S1 protein of SARS-CoV-2. A sufficient and low dose in this sense (low dose) means that about 5 mg of pure lithium might be sufficient. Please note that this information applies only to chemically pure lithium. If lithium is available in the form of lithium orotate, for example, the recommendation is to take about 115 mg of lithium orotate per day because this effectively means that you are taking 5 mg of pure lithium. This low dosage recommendation is also based on the better "brain accessibility" of lithium orotate compared to lithium acetate in the aforementioned COVID-19 study. For example, in an animal model of mania, 1/10 of the dose of lithium orotate was sufficient to achieve the same therapeutic effect as lithium carbonate (LiCO), which is also commonly used in medical practice. However, the lithium orotate formulation showed better efficacy and potency, because of select transport-mediated uptake and pentose pathway incorporation."xlix Because of this special transport mechanism, lithium orotate is not only recommended by me, but also discussed by other lithium specialists as a potential "superior option for lithium therapy" (of the future) when it comes to achieving the desired neurobiological effects.l

Although this therapeutic dosage of 5 mg of pure lithium (i.e., the effective proportion of lithium orotate) for Spikeopathy is 5 to 10 times higher than the preventive dosage (about 1 mg of pure lithium), it is still about 40 times lower than the dosage administered in conventional therapy for bipolar disorder (about 200 mg of pure lithium, see above). Side effects are therefore extremely unlikely, even at the therapeutic dose for Spikeopathy. However, even though the website of the Clinicum St. Georg states that "The use of lithium orotate in a dosage between 125-200 mg [with a corresponding lithium content of 5.5 to 8.6 mg] is simple and free of side effects", the attending physician should adjust the dosage if, for example, kidney disease is present (reduced or impaired excretion and thus prolonged half-life).li This is also the case during pregnancy and lactation or when prescription medications, especially antidepressants, are already being used. A therapeutic regimen of lithium for 1 to 3 months may also be sufficient to achieve the desired effect on neuroinflammation. After that, the amount taken can be reduced to what is essential (see next).

Essential requirement: Contrary to the literature and dietary guidelines, which continue to conceal the essential nature of lithium, a glance at the studies suffices to learn that an intake of approximately 1 mg of pure lithium is considered by scientists to be an essential requirement for the prevention of lithium-deficiency-related diseases (which ultimately include all so-called civilization diseases that develop on the basis of chronic inflammation). This also applies to the prevention of neuroinflammation in all chronic secondary diseases such as Spikeopathy, depression and Alzheimer's disease.

A microdose is about 23 mg of lithium orotate (which is 1 mg of pure lithium) or about 26 mg of lithium orotate mono-hydrate (the most common form of lithium orotate, which is also 1 mg of pure lithium) per day. However, even this small amount is currently only available by prescription in Germany and most EU member states, while it is legal in the US, as far as I know.

Sources of Lithium Orotate

In principle, any pharmacy can dispense lithium orotate in the form of an individually prepared prescription, which is always an individual mixture (that must be prescribed by a doctor in some countries). In Germany prescription drugs can only be manufactured and shipped after the original prescription has been received. Accordingly, a doctor would have to prescribe the capsules with 1 or 5 mg of lithium in the form of lithium orotate as needed, so that the pharmacy can prepare the corresponding prescription. The duration of use then determines the size of the prescription: 10 capsules, 30 capsules for one month, or 90 capsules for three months.




Disclaimer of Liability

All considerations presented here are based on publicly available documents and studies, most of which are also linked. Nevertheless, the author does not assume any liability for the contents and possible errors. This also applies to quantities. These are generally based on the requirements of an average adult. Deviations in dosage may result from lifestyle, gender, age, body size, pre-existing conditions, and especially from existing medications. Supplements should therefore only be taken after consultation with a trusted physician - the author assumes no liability for unauthorized use. It goes without saying that lithium preparations must be kept away from children, for example, due to their medicinal effects.
 
If I decide to take Lithium I will take it homeopathic. Here are information about it:

Homeopathic medicine Lithium Carbonicum is derived from lithium carbonate. To prepare homeopathic medicine Lithium Carbonicum, lithium carbonate has to undergo potentization. This process extracts medicinal properties from its crude form. Via this process lithium carbonate is converted into a highly valuable homeopathic medicine Lithium Carbonicum. It is a primarily useful medicine for treating joint pains, joint inflammation and gout.



The ‘Lithium Carbonicum’ Constitution


This medicine suits well those people who have tendency to have high uric acid levels in the blood.


Drug Action


The major action of Lithium Carbonicum is noted on the joints. Further action is marked on the urinary organs, the mind, head, heart, and skin.


Clinical Indications


Joint inflammation, joint pain, gout, urinary disorders, depression, claustrophobia, bipolar disorder, headache, heart disorders, barber’s itch, dry skin.


Scope As A Homeopathic Remedy


1. Joint Complaints (Joint Pain, Gout, Tophi)​


The principal action of ‘Lithium Carbonicum’ is seen in the joints. It is of great value in managing cases of joint inflammation and joint pains. The classical symptom to use this medicine is when joint pains get better by the application of very hot water. Generally, it is administered for treating joint pain in the shoulders, arms, fingers, and small joints. The finger and the toe joints are swollen and tender. This complaint is relieved with a hot water application. Nodular swelling is there in the joints. It is useful for ankle joint pain felt while walking. It handles those cases of pain particularly well where the knee joint occurs mainly while climbing up the stairs. The knees feel weak. It also works well in case of pain in the foot on the right side. It is felt when one awakens at night and veers off in the morning when it is the actual time to wake up. It is a well-indicated medicine for managing cases of joint pain from gout (inflamed, red, swollen, painful joints from increased uric acid levels in the blood). In gout, it is majorly indicated when there is tophi formation. Tophi are large bumps on the joints that form due to the build-up of uric acid crystals around the joints.


Key Indicating Features


Joint pains get better by application of very hot water


Inflammation of small joints especially swollen and tender finger and toe joints


Nodular swelling in the joints


Gout with tophi formation (bumps on joint formed due to accumulation of uric acid crystals around the joints)


2. Urinary Issues (Bladder Pain, Frequent Urination, Kidney Pain)


The second locality of action of this medicine is urinary organs. This medicine offers help in managing pain in the urinary bladder. It can be given when there occurs a sharp sticking pain in the neck of the bladder on the right side. It is accompanied by soreness of the bladder. Flashes of pain in the bladder are felt before passing the urine. It can be used in cases of soreness of the bladder with frequent urination. Its use is also recommended when there is frequent copious urination disturbing sleep. ‘Lithium Carb’ is administered to manage kidney pain in the right kidney. There may be the presence of mucus in the urine. Red-brown sediments may also be present in the urine.


Key Indicating Features


Sharp sticking pain in the bladder neck on the right side with soreness of the bladder


Flashes of pain in the bladder before the passing of the urine


Soreness of the bladder with frequent urination


Frequent copious urination which disturbs the sleep


3. Mind Complaints (Depression, Claustrophobia)


The action of ‘Lithium Carb’ is also marked on the mind. It is a wonderful medicine that helps manage cases of depression. Sadness, discouragement with the disposition to weep are present. There is an aversion to being spoken to and being touched. There is anxiety, restlessness, and hopelessness. It is found to be highly effective for cases of claustrophobia. Those who need this medicine have a marked fear of narrow places. Lastly, its use is suggested in managing cases of manic depression (bipolar disorder). It is a mood disorder that causes intense shifts in mood and energy levels.


Key Indicating Features


Depression with sadness, discouragement with the disposition to weep


Claustrophobia with fear of narrow places


4. Head (Headache)


It can effectively manage complaints of headaches. The foremost indication for its use is when the headache gets better after a meal. Among the most who need it, the pain is marked over the eyes. It gets worse towards the evenings. The Forehead feels constricted. The head feels very large. The next main indication for its use is that the headache gets better by rubbing. It can also be used when the headache gets worse upon lying down, and it gets better while sitting. Lastly, it proves helpful in cases where headaches in females arise from sudden suppression of menses.


Key Indicating Features


The headache gets better after a meal


The headache gets better upon rubbing


The headache gets worse upon lying down and better while sitting


Headache from sudden suppression of menses


5. Heart Issues (Pain In The Heart Region)


‘Lithium Carbonicum’ also acts well on the heart. The first indication to use it is throbbing or dull but stitching pain in the region of the heart. The pain from the heart may extend to the head. Soreness is also felt in the vicinity of the heart which gets worse while stooping. A characteristic feature to use this medicine is when there is a worsening in the symptoms of the heart, particularly while bending forward, and relief after urination.


Key Indicating Features


Throbbing or dull but stitching pain in the heart region


Soreness in the heart region gets worse while stooping


Worsening of the symptoms by bending forward, and relief after urination


6. Skin Concerns (Dry Skin, Barber’s Itch, Eruptions)


It also acts well on the skin. The first complaint where its use is suggested is upon dry skin. There is a rough rash all over the body, marked skin dryness with itching. Next, it can take care of cases of barber’s itch (ringworm of beard). There are circular patches on the affected portion of the skin covered with scales. Lastly, it can also be used in cases of eruptions on the head, cheeks, and hands preceded by redness, and rawness of the skin.


Key Indicating Features


Dry skin with a rough rash all over the body with itching


Barber’s itch with circular patches on affected skin covered with scales


Modalities


Worsening Factors: Complaints get worse from motion, during the mornings, at night, and during the menses


Relieving Factors: Complaints get better after a meal, from rest, and from urination


Dosage


This medicine can be used in both low and high potencies. The dose and repetition of this medicine is decided by the physician as per every individual case presentation.


Relationship With Other Remedies


‘Lithium Carbonicum’ can be compared with medicines — Benzoic Acid, Lycopodium, and Berberis Vulgaris in complaints of joint pains and gout.


Source
 
Thanks to Gaby, I have been taken 1 mg Lithium per days, since Gaby’s post.
And I am glad I did!
And some more information about why we should take it.

Lithium: The little-known element that can protect people from brainwashing by global elites, says researcher, author and medical doctor
03/11/2024 // Belle Carter // 1.4K Views

For experts such as Dr. Michael Nehls, a world-renowned author, medical doctor and post-doctoral molecular geneticist, the globalist anti-human agenda is being rolled out via a warfare inside human brains – hijacking cognitively to influence and disrupt both the mental and physical immune systems.

But there is an essential trace element that could inhibit any disruption to the optimal functioning of the human brain, such as brain fog, Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) post-vaccination syndrome, chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, Alzheimer's disease and even "globalists' indoctrination" agenda: lithium.

"The natural inhibitor is lithium, which is the only substance at low molecular levels. One milligram per day is sufficient to actually stop the Alzheimer's progression and other disruptions to brain functions," Nehls told "Health Ranger Report" host Mike Adams during a sit-down interview at the Brighteon studio. He added that the element can also be taken as a supplement.

"Lithium was shown to activate the process of autophagy and microautophagy," he stated. Autophagy is the body's process of reusing old and damaged cell parts while microautophagy serves diverse biological functions, including protein quality control. "It was actually proposed in a paper… that it can even get rid of the microbe of the spike protein in the brain."

In his Substack newsletter, Nehls further explained that microdosing lithium can reduce the riskof entering a life-threatening cycle. Said cycle is the long-term dysfunction of the hippocampus, a complex brain structure embedded deep into the temporal lobe that plays a major role in learning and memory, leads to reduced psychological resilience, which triggers an excessive and chronic stress response, which in turn over activates the brain's immune system and leads to an increased and particularly persistent release of pro-inflammatory messengers.

"A slightly higher dosage even offers the legitimate hope of breaking an existing cycle. But although there is ample scientific evidence that lithium, in addition to its well-known therapeutic benefits, is also an essential trace element, it is not yet recognized as such and, for example, cannot be marketed as a dietary supplement in most European Union member states," Nehls pointed out in the article.
 
I have been taking Lithium Orotate for about 6 weeks at a dosage of 5mg pure lithium per capsule. What I noticed after about a week of taking it:

Some days I had a little "emotional low" in the morning after waking up with negative thought loops. This has completely disappeared.

In very stressful situations I am much more relaxed and can concentrate better.

I'm still amazed at how quickly and effectively it has worked and I'm really grateful for this thread!
 
I have a bit of confusion on the dosages of the Lithium, and this is a quote from the above article that caused the confusion.

"A microdose is about 23 mg of lithium orotate (which is 1 mg of pure lithium) or about 26 mg of lithium orotate mono-hydrate (the most common form of lithium orotate, which is also 1 mg of pure lithium) per day. However, even this small amount is currently only available by prescription in Germany and most EU member states, while it is legal in the US, as far as I know."

If 23 mg of orotate is = to 1mg of pure Lithium, then to get 1 mg of "pure" lithium you would need to take 4 to 5 of the 5 mg capsules daily of Lithium orotate...right?

For those of you who have had the positive effect of the Lithium, maybe you could post the Amazon add or a photo of your bottle? That way we could see the brand and the mg's of what you have been taking.


For those posting on this tread, thank you.
 
If 23 mg of orotate is = to 1mg of pure Lithium, then to get 1 mg of "pure" lithium you would need to take 4 to 5 of the 5 mg capsules daily of Lithium orotate...right?
Wrong.

The brand Super-nutrition is more precise. They say "Lithium Orotate 125 mg" and recommends 2 caps per dose.
Then in the composition they say:
Lithium (from 250 mg lithium orotate): amount per dose 10mg.
Link
 
thanks @Kay Kim and @Kari Baba

The smallest amount to get the job done is all I'm looking for, at least at this time. Especially as I recently started drinking the Borax solution.

After @Goemon_ added more information, I can see now that one bottle says ("as" Lithium orotate) and the other ("from" Lithium orotate) meaning (to me) that the mg dosage on the bottle does mean pure Lithium made up "from" whatever amount of Lithium orotate needed.
 
thanks @Kay Kim and @Kari Baba

The smallest amount to get the job done is all I'm looking for, at least at this time. Especially as I recently started drinking the Borax solution.

After @Goemon_ added more information, I can see now that one bottle says ("as" Lithium orotate) and the other ("from" Lithium orotate) meaning (to me) that the mg dosage on the bottle does mean pure Lithium made up "from" whatever amount of Lithium orotate needed.
Yes, exactly. It's actually always quite transparent and clearly labeled.
 
From what I've read, you need to take about 130 mg of lithium orotate to equal 5 mg of elemental lithium, which is the recommended microdose. I originally bought a bottle of 5 mg lithium orotate before I realized I'd have to take 26 of them to get the right dosage!

I've been taking one of the 130 mg orotate capsules for several weeks now but can't say I notice any difference yet.
 

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