Macedonia

[angelburst29]

The color coded Map "NATO Expansion" in this article clearly shows: Macedonia, Albania, Croatia, Slovenia, Georgia and Ukraine have not joined NATO ..... which might be part of the under current of the activities in those regions ... to subject them to a NATO take over?
Might be the reason Russia voiced opinion recently on the Federalization tactics in Macedonia?

Quote from Konstantin:

Russia is alarmed that, in order to put pressure on the Macedonian government, the Albanian factor is being engaged; in particular, speculation is under way on even more substantial federalization of Macedonia, he said.

For The First Time US Deploys Two F-22 Raptors Close To Russia To "Deter Aggression"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/first-time-us-deploys-two-f-22-raptors-close-russia-deter-aggression

 

[Anthony]

The color coded Map "NATO Expansion" in this article clearly shows: Macedonia, Albania, Croatia, Slovenia, Georgia and Ukraine have not joined NATO ..... which might be part of the under current of the activities in those regions ... to subject them to a NATO take over?
Might be the reason Russia voiced opinion recently on the Federalization tactics in Macedonia?

Quote from Konstantin:

Russia is alarmed that, in order to put pressure on the Macedonian government, the Albanian factor is being engaged; in particular, speculation is under way on even more substantial federalization of Macedonia, he said.

For The First Time US Deploys Two F-22 Raptors Close To Russia To "Deter Aggression"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/first-time-us-deploys-two-f-22-raptors-close-russia-deter-aggression

It's an old map; Albania, Croatia, Slovenia have been member states of NATO for years now. I think they want to change the political structure and the orientation of these states to their liking; which means adopting an anti-Russian stance and a pro-Western one.

 

[angelburst29]

The color coded Map "NATO Expansion" in this article clearly shows: Macedonia, Albania, Croatia, Slovenia, Georgia and Ukraine have not joined NATO ..... which might be part of the under current of the activities in those regions ... to subject them to a NATO take over?
Might be the reason Russia voiced opinion recently on the Federalization tactics in Macedonia?

Quote from Konstantin:

Russia is alarmed that, in order to put pressure on the Macedonian government, the Albanian factor is being engaged; in particular, speculation is under way on even more substantial federalization of Macedonia, he said.

For The First Time US Deploys Two F-22 Raptors Close To Russia To "Deter Aggression"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/first-time-us-deploys-two-f-22-raptors-close-russia-deter-aggression

It's an old map; Albania, Croatia, Slovenia have been member states of NATO for years now. I think they want to change the political structure and the orientation of these states to their liking; which means adopting an anti-Russian stance and a pro-Western one.

Appreciate the correction on my mistake, Anthony, I remember those three Countries were being prompted to join NATO, just like they are trying to get Ukraine under their boots but wasn't aware they became full fledged Members. No wonder, everything is so screwed up?

Again, Thanks - for setting me straight on their Membership into NATO.

 

[Konstantin]

The color coded Map "NATO Expansion" in this article clearly shows: Macedonia, Albania, Croatia, Slovenia, Georgia and Ukraine have not joined NATO ..... which might be part of the under current of the activities in those regions ... to subject them to a NATO take over?
Might be the reason Russia voiced opinion recently on the Federalization tactics in Macedonia?

Quote from Konstantin:

Russia is alarmed that, in order to put pressure on the Macedonian government, the Albanian factor is being engaged; in particular, speculation is under way on even more substantial federalization of Macedonia, he said.

For The First Time US Deploys Two F-22 Raptors Close To Russia To "Deter Aggression"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-25/first-time-us-deploys-two-f-22-raptors-close-russia-deter-aggression

Well i cant understand one thing. If they want all those countries to became part of the NATO, then Macedonian government is asking to part of it for last maybe 10 years.Macedonian army is part of the US/NATO Psychopathic missions in Iraq, Afganistan for years under a NATO/US command.
IN case of Macedonia it must something else in the background.
Current Military minister is a man who is a very close with US/NATO.
Maybe the plan is to disintegrate Macedonia from inside at first and then all those remaining parts of it to be integrated to neighbor countries and then those regions to be integrated to NATO/US war machine.
We can see what is currently going on in Macedonia, and it wont be any better soon. Its an experiment, its a game for a psychopathic minds to change the name and identity of one country, to make federalization and finally disintegration of one whole nation and country.

Also there were few investments from China and Russia in Macedonia. There was a Russian homeopathic factory that started few years ago
_http://www.prodis.mk/

I think that they have closed their factory last year.

And Chinese investment . Chinese with cooperation with Macedonian government are building a highway from KIchevo to Ohrid, and they have plans for more major roads.
So all those roads will be under Chinese concession for 20-30 years maybe.

And i`m sure that western psychopaths are doing all this mess here now because of this, because they were slowly loosing their influence.

Tough time is ahead of us here in Macedonia.

 

[Persej]

Well i cant understand one thing. If they want all those countries to became part of the NATO, then Macedonian government is asking to part of it for last maybe 10 years.Macedonian army is part of the US/NATO Psychopathic missions in Iraq, Afganistan for years under a NATO/US command.
IN case of Macedonia it must something else in the background.
Current Military minister is a man who is a very close with US/NATO.

Well, as far as I understand, the problem is in your name?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_naming_dispute

Maybe the plan is to disintegrate Macedonia from inside at first and then all those remaining parts of it to be integrated to neighbor countries and then those regions to be integrated to NATO/US war machine.

Maybe. That would solve the naming problem.

We can see what is currently going on in Macedonia, and it wont be any better soon. Its an experiment, its a game for a psychopathic minds to change the name and identity of one country, to make federalization and finally disintegration of one whole nation and country.

It's possible. Maybe they want a quicker integration of this region into NATO and your name is a problem for them.

Tough time is ahead of us here in Macedonia.

Yeah, it looks like it. And you don't have much friends around you. :/

 

[Persej]

President Pavlopoulos: Greek Veto on FYROM’s EU-NATO Bid is Non-Negotiable

Greek President Prokopis Pavlopoulos said that Greece’s stand on the ongoing name dispute with the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) is non-negotiable. Visiting the Macedonian Tombs of Lefkadians, near Naoussa, the Greek leader said that those who dispute the Greek identity of Macedonia cannot expect Greece to lift its veto to allow for their entry to the European Union or NATO alliance.

“This sacred place for the Greek nation is proven by irrefutable historical evidence that shows the timeless Greek character of Macedonia,” said Pavlopoulos. “Cynics, forgers of history, who are unfortunately the heirs and successors of a culture of totalitarian regimes, as can be seen by their recent brutal behavior against refugees, do not have the right to feign friendship with Greece and, furthermore, it is inconceivable that they delude themselves that, with such attitudes, it would be possible for them to join the EU and NATO. The Greek veto is a given and non-negotiable.”

While in Northern Greece, Pavlopoulos was guided around the ancient site of Miezas by archeologist Angeliki Kottaridi, Director of the 17th Ephorate of Prehistoric and Classical Antiquities of the Ministry of Culture.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2016/05/08/president-pavlopoulos-greek-veto-on-fyroms-eu-nato-bid-is-non-negotiable/

 

[sToRmR1dR]

President Pavlopoulos: Greek Veto on FYROM’s EU-NATO Bid is Non-Negotiable

Greek President Prokopis Pavlopoulos said that Greece’s stand on the ongoing name dispute with the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) is non-negotiable. Visiting the Macedonian Tombs of Lefkadians, near Naoussa, the Greek leader said that those who dispute the Greek identity of Macedonia cannot expect Greece to lift its veto to allow for their entry to the European Union or NATO alliance.

“This sacred place for the Greek nation is proven by irrefutable historical evidence that shows the timeless Greek character of Macedonia,” said Pavlopoulos. “Cynics, forgers of history, who are unfortunately the heirs and successors of a culture of totalitarian regimes, as can be seen by their recent brutal behavior against refugees, do not have the right to feign friendship with Greece and, furthermore, it is inconceivable that they delude themselves that, with such attitudes, it would be possible for them to join the EU and NATO. The Greek veto is a given and non-negotiable.”

While in Northern Greece, Pavlopoulos was guided around the ancient site of Miezas by archeologist Angeliki Kottaridi, Director of the 17th Ephorate of Prehistoric and Classical Antiquities of the Ministry of Culture.

http://greece.greekreporter.com/2016/05/08/president-pavlopoulos-greek-veto-on-fyroms-eu-nato-bid-is-non-negotiable/

Article above contains very offensive name for my country!


Non-negotiable veto

http://dnevnik.mk/default.asp?ItemID=2FA1EE2092920041AD935532E4C593D7

 

[Anthony]

An article about the Balkans and its current place in the struggle between the unipolar and the multipolar powers. It's a bit long but worth reading for those who are interested. The author sees the Balkans (correctly as far as I know) as the bride between Europe and the Middle East. The Empire wants to keep Russian and Chinese projects out of the region and cement their influence, again it comes down to preventing Eurasian integration.

Hybrid Wars 5. Breaking the Balkans (I) - http://orientalreview.org/2016/05/06/hybrid-wars-5-breaking-the-balkans-i/

 

[angelburst29]

An article about the Balkans and its current place in the struggle between the unipolar and the multipolar powers. It's a bit long but worth reading for those who are interested. The author sees the Balkans (correctly as far as I know) as the bride between Europe and the Middle East. The Empire wants to keep Russian and Chinese projects out of the region and cement their influence, again it comes down to preventing Eurasian integration.

Hybrid Wars 5. Breaking the Balkans (I) - http://orientalreview.org/2016/05/06/hybrid-wars-5-breaking-the-balkans-i/

I hope you don't mind me dropping in again but I read the article above, which was well written and gave a lot of information. I was reviewing the second map, with the red line running through the different Countries. Then I came across this article and wonder if it has anything to do with what was discussed in the first article above?

ALARMING: The Serbian Republic is preparing a new war!
http://srbin.info/2016/05/12/alarmantno-u-republici-srpskoj-se-sprema-novi-rat/

May 12, 2016 - The Prime Minister explained that the information received from intelligence circles and invited all political actors in RS for peace, because we must not allow to be shed anyone's blood.

It is possible that the 14 May riots occur during political meetings in Banja Luka yesterday warned Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic, referring to data from intelligence circles, and urged all political actors in the Republic of Serbian peace.

He warned that time may have been brought into question the survival of RS, and Serbia brought in "very difficult situation".

Connoisseurs of political circumstances that would explain the turmoil of RS could spread to Serbia, but in the best case to provoke tensions.

The full text can be read in the daily newspapers KURIR in the issue of Thursday, 12 May.
Source: kurir.rs

 

[Anthony]

An article about the Balkans and its current place in the struggle between the unipolar and the multipolar powers. It's a bit long but worth reading for those who are interested. The author sees the Balkans (correctly as far as I know) as the bride between Europe and the Middle East. The Empire wants to keep Russian and Chinese projects out of the region and cement their influence, again it comes down to preventing Eurasian integration.

Hybrid Wars 5. Breaking the Balkans (I) - http://orientalreview.org/2016/05/06/hybrid-wars-5-breaking-the-balkans-i/

I hope you don't mind me dropping in again but I read the article above, which was well written and gave a lot of information. I was reviewing the second map, with the red line running through the different Countries. Then I came across this article and wonder if it has anything to do with what was discussed in the first article above?

ALARMING: The Serbian Republic is preparing a new war!
http://srbin.info/2016/05/12/alarmantno-u-republici-srpskoj-se-sprema-novi-rat/

May 12, 2016 - The Prime Minister explained that the information received from intelligence circles and invited all political actors in RS for peace, because we must not allow to be shed anyone's blood.

It is possible that the 14 May riots occur during political meetings in Banja Luka yesterday warned Serbian Prime Minister Aleksandar Vucic, referring to data from intelligence circles, and urged all political actors in the Republic of Serbian peace.

He warned that time may have been brought into question the survival of RS, and Serbia brought in "very difficult situation".

Connoisseurs of political circumstances that would explain the turmoil of RS could spread to Serbia, but in the best case to provoke tensions.

The full text can be read in the daily newspapers KURIR in the issue of Thursday, 12 May.
Source: kurir.rs

I think it's related and we'll have to see how things develope on Saturday. According to Sputnik Serbia the opposition is paying for people to attend the protests. I don't know if that's true but the situation could escalate.

We had this article carried on sott a few days ago dealing with the visit of CIA director to Bosnia: https://www.sott.net/article/317910-Boiling-Frogs-Post-CIA-director-visits-Bosnia-new-state-of-US-war-on-Russia-in-Southern-Europe

Oriental Review also published the second part of "Breaking the Balkans": http://orientalreview.org/2016/05/13/hybrid-wars-5-breaking-the-balkans-ii/

 

[Konstantin]

Here is another interesting article about current situation
Its on Serbian language and this is translation with google translate

_https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=bs&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Ffreshpress.info%2Fvijesti%2Fsvijet-globus%2Fputin-upozorio-zapad-sprema-balkanski-rat-prva-na-redu-republika-srpska-makedonija-pa-srbija%2F&edit-text=

and this is original article on Serbian:
_http://freshpress.info/vijesti/svijet-globus/putin-upozorio-zapad-sprema-balkanski-rat-prva-na-redu-republika-srpska-makedonija-pa-srbija/

Also i have read few articles on Macedonian last few days and the main topic is that there will be a tough time in near future on whole Balkan.
The main problems for western psychopaths is that they feel that they can loos their influence here.They are afraid that Russian and Chinese influence is growing so they will "kick down" the legally elected governments and make a conflict and then they will show up as a rescuers and come with NATO army and occupy the territory.
In order to do that they must invoke a military intervention, and to do that they have to make a conflict. Currently they are in that stage .

In Macedonia the only possible way is to do that between Macedonians ans Albanians, and that is very easy to achieve. Then after they will kill each other they can come as peacekeepers and divide the country ( occupy the country).After country is occupied, they can then change their name, accept the country as a member of psychopathic NATO alliance , and use its therithory as a battle field , or experimental filed in their war against " Russion agression" :(

They alredy have control on media on Balkan
New TV station N1 is a "daughter" tv station of CNN . Its owner is former CIA chief General David Petraeus.

_http://inserbia.info/today/2015/02/former-cia-chief-controls-most-of-the-media-in-serbia-report/

_http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/regional-tv-n1-welcome-in-serbia-vucic

In Macedonia there is a huge influence of Soros and USAID and a lot of similar organisations.
All of them are preparing the ground for the final.

This can be only stopped if people wake up and see who is really man behind the curtain.

 

[angelburst29]

Here is another interesting article about current situation

[...]

They alredy have control on media on Balkan
New TV station N1 is a "daughter" tv station of CNN . Its owner is former CIA chief General David Petraeus.

_http://inserbia.info/today/2015/02/former-cia-chief-controls-most-of-the-media-in-serbia-report/

_http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/regional-tv-n1-welcome-in-serbia-vucic

In Macedonia there is a huge influence of Soros and USAID and a lot of similar organisations.
All of them are preparing the ground for the final.

This can be only stopped if people wake up and see who is really man behind the curtain.

Soro's gang of hybrids should be rounded up and deported out of the Country after the damage they inflicted on the Porta Makedonija!
Arresting them for public destruction of a National Monument would be a waste of time and energy. Better yet, ship them out on a Life Boat and let Soros's save them.

These photo's make me want to cry - for what they did to the Triumphal Arch with paint balls? Nothing is "sacred" to them?

Fresh protests in Skopje: Porta Makedonija pelted with paint
http://kurir.mk/en/?p=52782

The civil movement #Protestiram (I Protest) supported by opposition SDSM and Soros organized Monday evening fresh protests in Skopje and other cities across Macedonia, demanding President Gjorge Ivanov’s resignation and annulment of his decision pardoning 56 individuals as well as postponement of the June 5 elections.

The protesters kicked off their march in Skopje outside the offices of the Special Public Prosecution as a show of support for the institution tasked with investigating probes arising from the wiretapping scandal.

On their way to the Parliament building, the protesters laid fresh flowers in ‘Zena Borec’ (Women-Fighter) Park in honor of the Victory Day 9 May.

They once again pelted the triumphal arch (Porta Makedonija) with paint balls, widely accepted as the main characteristic of the so called Colorful Revolution.

 

[angelburst29]

This article was Posted today and shows two photos of the name's and the amounts paid to each of the organizers in the Herzegovina - Sarajevo - Semberia - Ozren/Vocuza - Bos. Karjina Regions for the Banja Luka protests.

OCCURRED TO EVIDENCE THAT SOROS funded protests in Serbian
http://srbin.info/2016/05/13/pojaviali-e-dokazi-da-soros-finansira-proteste-u-srpskoj/

On social networks in the Republic of Serbian can be found information about who and how financed opposition in the Serbian Republic, which calls for protests in Banja Luka and the coup.

Open Society Fund of George Soros, who was recently banned in the Russian Federation, as a direct interference in the internal political affairs, is the main financier of the opposition leaders in the Republic of Serbian.

The list Soros scholarship recipients are: Slavko Vu

The data clearly indicate that the issue of national interest, on the Republic of Serbian salaries in dollars, and that the operation of the Soros Foundation has always been directed at the propaganda against the Serbian people, destabilizing the Balkans and fragmentation of Serbian territory.

 

[Nević Nenad]

Its actually Republic of Srpska, not "Serbian" because its name is Srpska (which is serbian part of Bosnia).

Serbian prime minister (of the republic of Serbia, not Republic of Srpska) is hardly a man to be believed in anything. He is useful idiot for the western agencies. He can say something not because he wants to warn someone to avoid conflicts, but more as to send a signal which his western handlers told him to send.

BTW, there is no reason for war on the Balkans, and especially there is no reason for the civil war among Serbs in Bosnia. The West and the NATO already own everything and everyone on Balkan. If there would be conflicts, the reason would be changing the clowns and puppets in the regimes, in order to get natural resources and companies. Just a "game of thrones" among different groups and individuals who is former CIA and Pentagon. And if there would be conflicts it will come through macedonian Albanians and bosnian Muslims (AKA "Bosnians"), because they are still heavily ponerized and used by the West. Russian influence on any Balkan country is nothing more than just symbolic. Almost non existent.

 

[Anthony]

Its actually Republic of Srpska, not "Serbian" because its name is Srpska (which is serbian part of Bosnia).

Serbian prime minister (of the republic of Serbia, not Republic of Srpska) is hardly a man to be believed in anything. He is useful idiot for the western agencies. He can say something not because he wants to warn someone to avoid conflicts, but more as to send a signal which his western handlers told him to send.

BTW, there is no reason for war on the Balkans, and especially there is no reason for the civil war among Serbs in Bosnia. The West and the NATO already own everything and everyone on Balkan. If there would be conflicts, the reason would be changing the clowns and puppets in the regimes, in order to get natural resources and companies. Just a "game of thrones" among different groups and individuals who is former CIA and Pentagon. And if there would be conflicts it will come through macedonian Albanians and bosnian Muslims (AKA "Bosnians"), because they are still heavily ponerized and used by the West. Russian influence on any Balkan country is nothing more than just symbolic. Almost non existent.

They won't be happy until the whole region is changed according to their desires, which means integration into the structures such as EU, NATO and complete subservience to the Troika parasites. They have yet to achieve all of this in certain Balkan countires. And even in Croatian, which is dominated by these centers of power, we still hear about the need for the so-called "transition" to the right kind of neoliberalism and 'democracy'. So they never seem to be happy until the targeted country is completely ruined, indebted, privatized and the people impoverished. If some sort of a conflict does erupt, it will most probably be modeled after Ukraine or Syria or what they're trying to pull off in Macedonia, that seems to be the preferred model nowadays.