Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Missing Plane

[Khalsa]

Unrelated, but still...

West Virginians report 'intelligent fireball' UFO over small town

http://www.sott.net/article/275301-West-Virginians-report-intelligent-fireball-UFO-over-small-town

"Stopped to see what it was and thought it was a meteor. It came down towards a plane, commercial type, and thought it was going to hit it. Fireball stopped as if to let plane pass, and then continued."

The witness described the object.

"It made a zigzag pass, glowed brighter, and then dimmer. Had tentacles (shafts of light come out from top and bottom), shoot from top and bottom. It dimmed to almost nothing. We thought it was gone and then it came back on and finally disappeared behind the mountain."

Weird things out there.

Interesting post Gaby, I saw something very much like that over the skies of southern Maine last fall. Wasn't sure if it was a UFO, or some kind of plasma phenomena. It eventually just sank towards the ground, and spread over like a blanket across the tops of some trees, then faded. I wonder if some kind of EM discharge from comets is also a factor in all of these plane crashes and natural disasters.

 

[Joe]

As regards AF447

Reports stated that passengers bodies were found 54kms apart.

The Buenos Aires Herald reported that the first 16 bodies analyzed had their clothes torn off, and did not have burn marks.

Bloomberg reported that most of the bodies had minimal clothing, no signs of burns, multiple fractures and no water in their lungs, according to a newspaper report.

No water in the lungs suggests the passengers died either on impact of the plane with the water or before it hit the water.

No burn marks points to no bomb, no "terrorism".

Multiple fractures suggests passengers' bodies were subjected to severe blunt force trauma not consistent with then being strapped into their seats and the plane hitting the water intact. Rather, it is consistent with passengers bodies hitting the water at high speed.

Wide dispersal of bodies is consistent with them falling through the air from high altitude

Minimal clothing on most bodies is inconclusive, but possibly consistent with bodies falling from high altitude.

 

[thorbiorn]

Here is an article from a Malaysian news source

Published: Sunday March 9, 2014 MYT 7:00:00 AM
Updated: Sunday March 9, 2014 MYT 11:56:39 AM

Tracking firm: Plane missing about 50min after departure

PETALING JAYA: Sweden-based flight tracking service FlightRadar24 was the first to report that Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 had disappeared from radar about 50 minutes of departure, and not two hours as initially stated.

"Flight #MH370 took off from Kuala Lumpur at 1641 UTC time (12.41am local time) and disappeared from _www.flightradar24.com at 1720 UTC time (about 1.21am local time) between Malaysia and Vietnam," said the company’s chief executive officer Fredrik Lindahl in an e-mail response to The Star.

Flight MH370, on a B777-200 aircraft, departed Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am on March 8. It was expected to land in Beijing at 6.30am the same day.

"Also, based on our data, there is no doubt that the last reported position of MH370 is about 150km northeast of Kuala Terengganu.

"We have good radar coverage in the area the flight went missing and the last signal was received from an altitude of 35,000 feet," said Lindahl.

MAS group chief executive officer Ahmad Jauhari Yahya had initially said at a press conference at 11am yesterday that the Subang Air Traffic Control had lost contact with the plane around 2.40am.

However, Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) director-general Datuk Azharuddin Abdul Rahman clarified later in the evening that contact was lost at 1.30am.

Meanwhile, aviation website The Aviation Herald stated that the plane was last regularly seen at 1.22am about halfway between Kuala Lumpur and Vietnam’s Ho Chi Minh City.

"The aircraft was spotted over the Gulf of Thailand about 260 nautical miles north northeast of Kuala Lumpur and 120 nautical miles northeast of Kota Baru 50 minutes into the flight.

"This was followed by anomalies in the radar data of the aircraft over the next minute. Although these may be related to the aircraft, it could also be caused by the flight leaving the receiver range," it stated.

The website also reported aviation sources in China as saying that radar data suggested a steep and sudden descent of the flight, during which time the aircraft had changed track from 24 degrees to 333 degrees

The last information of a very rapid descent is similar to the AF 447.

 

[Breton]

Doing a google search I found a link to follow the story since it was giving updates:

_http://www.firstpost.com/world/live-search-on-for-missing-plane-hijacking-a-possibility-says-malaysian-govt-1424627.html

I want to point out this bit they decided to write:

The use of stolen passports has raises concerns that terrorists may have caused the plane’s apparent crash. The US sent the FBI to investigate, but stressed there was no evidence of terrorism yet.

"Use of stolen passports is a tactic of terrorists trying to avoid detection, while groups including al-Qaeda have sought to crash planes into oceans to cover up evidence," Bloomberg quoted senior US security officials as saying.

“That raised huge red flags — the stolen passports and the plane crashing over water,” John Magaw, a former administrator of the Transportation Security Administration and US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told Bloomberg. “Those two things right there are highly, highly, highly suspicious.”

Say what???

Is it just me, but do the words above by John Magaw and "senior US security officials" (whoever they are) make no logical sense?
a) Passports are stolen and used all the time for many reasons other than "a tactic of terrorists trying to avoid detection".
b) Since when will "al-Qaeda have sought to crash planes into oceans to cover up evidence"?? What has that got to do with terrorism? Terrorist acts are usually done in order to create terror. I would think then that making a dramatic and showy act of destruction is what would create the most terror, and NOT crashing planes into oceans to cover up evidence.

So... are the seeds of BS being sown already?

 

[Keit]

Very interesting, because the very same thing happened with AF447. "investigators" first muted the possibility of lightning, bomb or meteorite, but then dismissed it. Discover Magazine even published an article about the meteorite theory, saying that there was a 1 in 10 chance that a plane would be hit by a meteorite, but then schizophrenically dismissed it as "not likely"

There is the following from this article:

_http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/550486-where-did-it-go-possible-reasons-for-malaysian-airlines-jet-disappearance/?photo=2
Where Did It Go? Possible Reasons for Malaysia Airlines Jet Disappearance

The most dangerous parts of a flight are takeoff and landing. Rarely do incidents happen when a plane is cruising seven miles above the earth.

So the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet well into its flight Saturday morning over the South China Sea has led aviation experts to assume that whatever happened was quick and left the pilots no time to place a distress call.[...]

If there was a minor mechanical failure — or even something more serious like the shutdown of both of the plane’s engines — the pilots likely would have had time to radio for help. The lack of a call “suggests something very sudden and very violent happened,” said William Waldock, who teaches accident investigation at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Ariz.

It initially appears that there was either an abrupt breakup of the plane or something that led it into a quick, steep dive. Some experts even suggested an act of terrorism or a pilot purposely crashing the jet.

“Either you had a catastrophic event that tore the airplane apart, or you had a criminal act,” said Scott Hamilton, managing director of aviation consultancy Leeham Co. “It was so quick and they didn’t radio.”[...]

Capt. John M. Cox, who spent 25 years flying for US Airways and is now CEO of Safety Operating Systems, said that whatever happened to the Malaysia Airlines jet, it occurred quickly. The problem had to be big enough, he said, to stop the plane’s transponder from broadcasting its location, although the transponder can be purposely shut off from the cockpit.

One of the first indicators of what happened will be the size of the debris field. If it is large and spread out over tens of miles, then the plane likely broke apart at a high elevation. That could signal a bomb or a massive airframe failure. If it is a smaller field, the plane probably fell from 35,000 feet intact, breaking up upon contact with the water.[...]

Some of the possible causes for the plane disappearing include:

— A catastrophic structural failure of the airframe or its Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines. [...]
— Bad weather. [...]
— Pilot disorientation. [...]
— Failure of both engines. [...]
— A bomb. [...]
— Hijacking. [...]
— Pilot suicide. [...]
— Accidental shoot-down by some country’s military. [...]

Notice, no meteorites!

 

[Vulcan59]

Some of the possible causes for the plane disappearing include:

— A catastrophic structural failure of the airframe or its Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines. [...]
— Bad weather. [...]
— Pilot disorientation. [...]
— Failure of both engines. [...]
— A bomb. [...]
— Hijacking. [...]
— Pilot suicide. [...]
— Accidental shoot-down by some country’s military. [...]

Notice, no meteorites!

And now a suggestion that it could have been a missile! - Source - WND

 

[Keit]

And now a suggestion that it could have been a missile! - Source - WND

Ohh...thanks for sharing, Vulcan59. They definitely are being busy bees with inventing excuses and covering up the truth. And who's doing it? Former CIA Director, and in Tel aviv, no less!

At a conference in Tel Aviv in January, Petraeus warned of a “nightmare” scenario in which missile proliferation could provide terrorists the capability to shoot down a civilian airliner.

Petraeus was speaking at the annual conference of the Institute for National Security Studies, a think-tank at Tel Aviv University.

He referred to a video posted on YouTube by the Sinai-based Ansar Jerusalem jihadist group, which claimed it had fired a surface-to-air missile at an Egyptian helicopter.

“I mean, shooting down a helicopter with an apparent shoulder-fired missile is a big deal,” Petraeus said.

“As you know, that was always our worst nightmare, that a civilian airliner would be shot down by one. Which is why we were so concerned when they moved around,” he said.

 

[Vulcan59]

And now a suggestion that it could have been a missile! - Source - WND

Ohh...thanks for sharing, Vulcan59. They definitely are being busy bees with inventing excuses and covering up the truth. And who's doing it? Former CIA Director, and in Tel aviv, no less!

Am betting on cause of disappearance being the Rapture next!

 

[l apprenti de forgeron]

There is the following from this article:

_http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/550486-where-did-it-go-possible-reasons-for-malaysian-airlines-jet-disappearance/?photo=2
Where Did It Go? Possible Reasons for Malaysia Airlines Jet Disappearance

The most dangerous parts of a flight are takeoff and landing. Rarely do incidents happen when a plane is cruising seven miles above the earth.

So the disappearance of a Malaysia Airlines jet well into its flight Saturday morning over the South China Sea has led aviation experts to assume that whatever happened was quick and left the pilots no time to place a distress call.[...]

If there was a minor mechanical failure — or even something more serious like the shutdown of both of the plane’s engines — the pilots likely would have had time to radio for help. The lack of a call “suggests something very sudden and very violent happened,” said William Waldock, who teaches accident investigation at Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University in Prescott, Ariz.

It initially appears that there was either an abrupt breakup of the plane or something that led it into a quick, steep dive. Some experts even suggested an act of terrorism or a pilot purposely crashing the jet.

“Either you had a catastrophic event that tore the airplane apart, or you had a criminal act,” said Scott Hamilton, managing director of aviation consultancy Leeham Co. “It was so quick and they didn’t radio.”[...]

Capt. John M. Cox, who spent 25 years flying for US Airways and is now CEO of Safety Operating Systems, said that whatever happened to the Malaysia Airlines jet, it occurred quickly. The problem had to be big enough, he said, to stop the plane’s transponder from broadcasting its location, although the transponder can be purposely shut off from the cockpit.

One of the first indicators of what happened will be the size of the debris field. If it is large and spread out over tens of miles, then the plane likely broke apart at a high elevation. That could signal a bomb or a massive airframe failure. If it is a smaller field, the plane probably fell from 35,000 feet intact, breaking up upon contact with the water.[...]

Some of the possible causes for the plane disappearing include:

— A catastrophic structural failure of the airframe or its Rolls-Royce Trent 800 engines. [...]
— Bad weather. [...]
— Pilot disorientation. [...]
— Failure of both engines. [...]
— A bomb. [...]
— Hijacking. [...]
— Pilot suicide. [...]
— Accidental shoot-down by some country’s military. [...]

Notice, no meteorites!

Most passengers were Chinese. So perhaps the question of this tragedy will serve China to blame again the Uighur separatists, who already had been blamed for the murders with knives in Kunming's subway (but in that case the West elite is may linked). Or they can blame AL Qaeda or whoever to cover the most probable escenario, a meteorite strike. But in that case the Chinese and Russian agenda are almost identical to those of the West: cover up the celestial dangers with alleged terrorism, because the celestial dangers kills the anthropocentric power game, at least as they know (although all this is much more complex and they are expecting something big to make a major shift).

 

[Laura]

Minimal clothing on most bodies is inconclusive, but possibly consistent with bodies falling from high altitude.

More likely shock wave or some kind of tornadic thing. People caught by tornadoes have been reported to have their clothes removed.

 

[Joe]

'The fact that we are unable to find any debris so far appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet,' said the source, who is involved in the investigations in Malaysia."

Well that at least rules out "pilot error". Meteorite shock wave seems more and more likely. Of course, if they're going to try and distract by pushing the terrorism angle based on the stolen passports, we'll have to point out that a certain gang in particular has a track record of using fake passports.

 

[Lindenlea]

This was on the Australian 7.30 report tonight. The aviation lawyer suggested it could have been a 'stall'.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s3960508.htm

This aviation lawyer makes a very good case but I guess everything sounds plausible if you're going to take meteorites out of the equation.

 

[seek10]

This was on the Australian 7.30 report tonight. The aviation lawyer suggested it could have been a 'stall'.

http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s3960508.htm

This aviation lawyer makes a very good case but I guess everything sounds plausible if you're going to take meteorites out of the equation.

They have triple redundancy transponders , but it is still projected as stall or bomb or explosion from fuel tank, but no meteor causes. sounding like Voldemort "You-Know-Who" and "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named"

 

[Kaigen]

The spinning of the news is going in all directions!

_http://beforeitsnews.com/events/2014/03/malaysia-plane-crash-20-all-electric-car-linked-green-tech-passengers-on-board-names-released-2432738.html

Austin-based high-tech eco-friendly company Freescale Semiconductor (NYSE:FSL) has confirmed that 20 of its employees were confirmed passengers on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing. Twelve are from Malaysia and eight are from China. The company’s key product solutions include those for electric vehicles.

 

[Minas Tirith]

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/2014/03/09/air-force-chief-malaysia-jet-may-have-turned-back/TLZ5W65xU3mLsTVxD3lA5N/story.html

They're reporting that it might have turned back.

‘‘We are trying to make sense of this,’’ he told a media conference. ‘‘The military radar indicated that the aircraft may have made a turn back and in some parts, this was corroborated by civilian radar.’’

There are quite a few similarities to the Air France Flight 447, which also may have tried to turn around last minute:

Flight 447 may have turned back
2010-05-10 21:54
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Paris - An Air France jet going from Rio de Janeiro to Paris may have turned around before it crashed last year, killing all 228 people aboard, officials said on Monday.

The head of the French accident investigation agency said the plane could be found by Wednesday.

Pinging signals from the plane's flight recorders detected in the Atlantic depths last year were analysed last week with the aid of new technology that helped narrow down the search zone to what turned out to be an unexpected location.

One wonders why.

M.T.