In reply to your questions, the following extracts are from a much longer post that I am preparing on awakening the lower emotional centre, both theory and practice. My research on managing copious emotions, both from the Forum and the wider web has yielded very little. Hence the reason for the post. Extracts:
This post is to share, what may well be a ‘common’ problem for other male readers, specifically, ways to awaken the emotional centre: to put all the information together, to help others, or not, in the face of consciously choosing to face their own ‘suffering’. Although, for the people involved the ‘suffering’ may be oblivious to them, they may not even aware of the signs presented. Certainly, I was unaware of the problem; as far as I was concerned everything was ‘normal’.
Thanks to the ‘mirror’ of the Forum, on the first topic I posted to (Physical issues reading GNOSIS) after my introduction post, I discovered that my emotional centre needed awakening, rather than as I initially thought, developing. Thanks to anart, for a few ideas, ‘fwiw’, who suggested shocks and suffering to stir up the emotions; and recapitulating on one’s past life and past traumas /events that created programs to stir up the emotional centre from its slumber. Recapitulation I have done on and off for the last 17 years in the form of recovering the positive learnings from limiting decisions, beliefs, or buffers etc, as the trapped emotions were released. As and when I became aware of the limiting decisions, I worked on them. I knew from before that doing this work on limiting decisions or buffers I could not recall emotions. Also, for a long time now I have known that I had to do something with my Reptilian brain’s flight and fight response, and that I needed to get outside of myself to do this, however, I was unaware of the root cause of the problem that needed addressing. Now, I could not recall an event in the past that would switch off my emotional centre. Shortly before joining the Forum I had done an inventory (recapitulate) of possible events in all areas of my life, to no avail.
Then, by chance, I read a post of Laura’s and realized that the root cause was the likely early childhood trauma of circumcision! I recall my mother telling me, when I was an adult, that the family doctor had recommended it shortly after birth, for ‘health reasons’. Wow, where do I start to address this?
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Recapping Laura’s post,
Laura’s post in Cruise on Birth Control said:
[…] As I wrote in The Wave:
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I went back in my thinking to the whole Jehovah-I AM deal; the Moses story and all that; and went over the details as they are presented in the Bible for clues. And I came up against that most interesting demand of that crafty Lizard, Jehovah/Yahweh: circumcision - on the 8th day, no less.
What better way to ensure a deep, subconscious, distrust of women - not to mention an overwhelming terror at the very mention of the pain and suffering that might ensue from breaking the monotheistic covenant - than whacking a guy's pee-pee when he is interested only in being warm, cozy, and filling his tummy with warm, sweet milk from mother?!
Whoah! Talk about your basic abyssal cunning there!
The first stage, or circuit, is the oral-passive-receptive, and is imprinted by what is perceived to be the mother or first mothering object. It can be conditioned by nourishment or threat, and is mostly concerned with bodily security. Trauma during this phase can cause an unconsciously motivated mechanical retreat from anything threatening to physical safety.
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The first "circuit" is concerned with what is safe and what is not safe. In our society, money is one of the primary items that is intimately tied to survival and biological security. Money represents survival.
When I was young money was never an issue, on leaving home I always had enough to live on, I got into debt at one stage and got myself out of it, unemployed at one time for a short period cash was short but I got through it (thanks to a roof over my head at my parents). So, this one is a tricky call, for yes or no - undecided. Safety has never, to my conscious knowledge, been a problem. But, my Chief Feature reveals a lot of fears, including fear of: failure, moving forward/new situations, consequences, putting into action decisions made, discovery, as well as fear itself. So, on reflection, yes I agree with the statement.
In addition to that, people who have been traumatized during the imprinting phase of the first circuit tend to view other people in an abstract way. It is "us and them."
I’d never thought of it in that way, and on reflection, yes, I do.
They also tend to be very easily threatened by disapproval of any sort because disapproval suggests the idea of extinction or loss of food supply.
No? Throughout my career I have often challenged decisions at work and am usually cast to one side as a result (of my ability to SEE through people). Once I was told to be more serious at work, and it cost me several pay increases under that director. If I am easily threatened, then I have learnt to cover it up at a deep level and not let it show as a coping mechanism. Eliciting my Chief Feature did reveal a lot of fears, including fear of: recognition, not being good enough/inadequate. So, again on reflection, yes I agree with the statement.
And, finally, those who have been negatively imprinted at this stage tend to have a chronic muscular armoring that prevents proper, relaxed breathing; they are "up tight."
I am aware that my body is ‘tense’ rather than what I would call ‘up tight’. I’ve worked on my breathing moving from the chest to habitually breath abdominally, although it tends to be ‘shallow’.
One of the main characteristics of people who are heavily controlled by this circuit, or are "stuck" in this "oral phases," is that when they sense danger of any sort, whether actual or conceptual, all mental activity comes to a halt.
This I do not relate to at all. Actual: I stop (language as a pointer!) and rationalize a situation, looking for options. Conceptual: an inner ‘I” will usually offer something either positive or negative. Regarding an earlier statement on the first stage, ‘unconsciously motivated retreat from anything threatening to physical danger’, when mountain walking I do consider where I am going, and have competing inner ‘I’s telling me to either stop and pack up, or to keep going; to do what I fear. I do not take unnecessary chances.
Such people are chronically anxious and dependent - mostly on religion.
Yes to the first, although I thought that I had just inherited this from my mother! I’ve always thought of myself as independent; indeed (language again) feedback to determine my Chief Feature (procrastination) suggests self-reliant, a loner, self-contained (shy) and stubborn (hidden, own way, invisible). Fears that were revealed in determining my Chief Feature included: Fear itself, fear of: failure, moving forward/new situations, losing /missing out, immensity of task before me, success, responsibility, recognition, recognition (not good enough/inadequate), discovery, consequences, and putting into action decisions made. Dependent on religion – no – at an early age, through attending Sunday School and the need to make a decision on confirmation or not, I rejected it on the basis of the duplicitous behaviour of church members on a Sunday compared with the rest of the week.
They are not able to really understand what other people are feeling or what can happen in the future in regard to relationships, given a certain present situation. They only understand what is happening "now," and they can only feel what THEY feel. They cannot accurately grasp what others feel because they relate to others only as sensory objects.
This statement explains a lot!!! Although I’d never really thought that I related to others only as sensory objects, certainly empathy was/is only intellectual for me.
And, how many men are circumcised? A LOT, I can tell you. And, besides the Jews, for years, the AMA advocated and urged circumcision of American babies for "hygienic" reasons. Hmmm...
As a side note, trauma or failure to bond at this oral phase tends to also lead to weight issues - either overweight or underweight.
This has never been a problem for me.
The expression of healthy growth through this phase is the ability to retain the state of consciousness of the "natural child" who feels safe in the world no matter what they encounter. [...]
A quick check on the web re: psychological trauma and PTSD symptoms revealed the following:
emotional detachment, dissociation, emotionally flat, preoccupied, distant, memory problems – yes to all of these, subjectively and externally verified, - emotionally numb, trouble feeling affectionate, overwhelming psychological defenses – yes to all of these as well.
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In addition to Laura’s text above, looking at web material on circumcision revealed the following:
John Rhinehart in Neonatal Circumcision Reconsidered (http://nocirc.org/articles/rhinehart1.php/) said:
Many men who were circumcised as neonates consider it a nonissue because they cannot remember anything about it. […] it is clear that the memory is there. Since the event occurred at a very early preverbal level, it is most often experienced as a body or somatic memory rather than as a more familiar verbal memory. …
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[…] his mind went blank (“cortical shock”) – typical of what happens when experiencing this level of traumatic response). As an adult, […] maintaining a somatic state of hypervigilence and tension. …
Later-Life Symptoms of Circumcision
Other men with whom I have worked have also made causal connections between present-day problems – such as a sense of defeat, shyness, anger, or fear – and their neonatal circumcision experiences. I have developed a list of symptoms and behaviors that appear to have been caused or significantly conditioned by these neonatal experiences. Since these symptoms and behaviors can result from other traumatic experiences as well, this list should not be used as a diagnostic checklist to identify circumcision trauma; however, they may suggest its presence. These symptoms include
• a sense of personal powerlessness
• fear of being overpowered and victimized by others
• lack of trust in others and life
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• guardedness in relationships
• reluctance to be in relationships with women
• defensiveness
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• difficulties in establishing intimate relationships
• emotional numbing
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• decreased ability to communicate
• feeling of not being understood
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[…] in her model of human responses to trauma, Pomeroy (1994) brings together what we know about trauma is, how it happens, and what our psychic responses to traumatic events. She describes three inborn levels of defense for dealing with a threatening experience: 1) relational resources, consisting of boundaries and safe, trustworthy individual and communal connections; 2) fight, flight, and freeze defenses from the brain’s limbic system; and 3) shock defenses, also from the limbic system, but without emotional control (pp. 90-93). She points out that when an overwhelming threat alarm is signaled by the emotional brain, the emotional brain’s defenses take over. The emotional brain depends responds at the level of fight-flight-freeze (active defenses) or shock defenses (passive reflexes) (p. 92).
In the case of circumcision, relational resources are unavailable to the neonate. The next level of fight-flight-freeze also does not serve him since he is easily trapped and overpowered by those performing the procedure. All he has left, therefore is the level of shock defense, which consists of central nervous system flooding by terror, rage, and finally numbing, paralysis, and dissociation; this his last chance to control the high level of central nervous system activation, which might otherwise result in death. …
Note in the above, the statement that when ‘… an overwhelming threat alarm is signaled by the emotional brain, the emotional brain’s defenses take over. The emotional brain depends responds at the level of fight-flight-freeze (active defenses) or shock defenses (passive reflexes) (p. 92).
In the case of circumcision, ... The next level of fight-flight-freeze also does not serve him since he is easily trapped and overpowered by those performing the procedure. All he has left, therefore is the level of shock defense, which consists of central nervous system flooding by terror, rage, and finally numbing, paralysis, and dissociation; …’ The inborn level of defense goes straight into passive reflexes – i.e., application of the SHOCK DOCTRINE in the limbic system.
Resuming the quote,
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For a neonate undergoing circumcision, perhaps it would be accurate to say that his “decision” is primarily somatic and derives from defensive patterning of his shock experience. Because of its content and context, circumcision sets in place an automatic central nervous system and generalized somatic reaction to interpersonal experience from that point on. Some males experience continuing vigilance, some a readiness to fight, flee, or freeze; and other will jump to rage, terror, or disconnection. It is helpful to note that, in considering the levels of defense, whenever the two earlier levels ) relational and fight or flight) are experienced by the mind as ineffective, the mind tends not to use them later. This means that a mind patterned in this way jumps right to terror, rage and/or dissociation when confronted with situations that are interpreted as threatening, even though the rational mind or cortex these situations may not be significant. In other words, when an event occurs in a man’s life that resembles any aspect of the original circumcision experience, the chances are that the extreme form of panic, rage, violence, or dissociation might are much more likely – just as they are in any other posttraumatic stress situation.
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Martha Stout said:
I regard hypnosis with caution, maybe even a little skepticism, and also with gratitude, and at certain moments, something that approaches awe. The use of trance can speed the progress of a therapy, because it enhances recall, and I studied hypnotic techniques initially for that reason. People in their thirties, forties, fifties, and older for whom the reality of extreme trauma is twenty, thirty, forty or more years in the past, are often impatient, and rightly so, with the lingering, life-depleting effects of ancient events. To often, they are close to despair, to viewing their lives as aborted attempts, as hopeless mismatches. And so, if I believe that a person is ready to deal with the past, has sufficient internal and external resources to face the extremely unsettling material that may be uncovered, I will suggest hypnosis as a part – and only a part – of our work together. Vital nonhypnotic treatment components include providing a safe holding environment (make certain that therapy as a whole constitutes a caring “safe place”) cognitive restructuring (the therapeutic reexamination of long-standing belief systems), and effect toleration (teaching constructive ways to live with powerful emotions).
When using hypnosis, I remain severely cautioned, and repeatedly warn my patients, that the memories we may call forth were originally dissociated from consciousness for a very good and life-preserving reason, and for this we must retain the utmost respect. Proceed with great care. I have no magic wand, and ethical hypnotherapy is much more than mere theater.
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Second, the practical steps (DOing) to awakening of the emotional centre. Please note that this is just the approach that I took, there may well be other approaches to take to resolve this problem.
Mouravieff offers one approach to awaken the emotional centre,
’ … for lack of anything else better he will be forced to work empirically.
However, we can give him a valuable hint: human nature has an aptitude for being trained, and this can be profitably used to awaken the torpid emotional centre. With subtle and highly refined reasoning, the man 3 must in every circumstance imagine the reaction of the man 2 who is obedient to the will of his emotional centre. And he must by conscious effort react in the same way when not driven by emotion. It is a game. … But if he takes the game seriously and makes it a permanent methodical exercise for all occasions, he will succeed in liberating his emotional centre from its state of torpor.’
However, I felt (intellectually!) that something more dramatic was needed to address the early infant traumatic event of circumcision, at a time when I probably couldn’t even articulate verbally. I was looking for an internal shock rather than external shock.
Eighteen years ago I trained in NLP, Ericksonian hypnosis, and Time Line Therapy, all to Masters level, so I reasoned that hypnosis would be the most appropriate way to revisit the trauma; to get to the locked-up emotions, and memories; likely to be many dispersed, each isolated, traumatic, and spread around my body. I needed a hypnotherapist with experience of dealing with trauma, or PTSD, preferably local to me. The search was on. I had to take the risk of awakening what might be ‘unspeakable horror that waits to consume me alive’ (Martha Stout), and yet the chance of awakening my emotional centre. First I had to overcome my CF – procrastination – initially satisfied by reading the four recommended psychological books, reading Stout again with a different emphasis. Also, I started to work on reducing Adrenal Fatigue using supplements (thanks to the Adrenal Fatigue, Symptoms – affects 10’s of millions post). But to do it, to make the appointment!!! That was the big leap, as well as overcoming my Chief Feature; I needed both conscious and unconscious agreement before I went ahead, knowing the likely discomfort that might lie ahead.
I drew up a short-list of four possible hypnotherapists. One was a clinical hypnotherapist with four years of experience, another was into NLP and Life coaching, curative hypnosis, it all sounded a little too ‘New Age’ for me, another was both a psychotherapist and hypnotherapist that stated that he specialized in trauma, and the last one did hypnotherapy, NLP, Time Line Therapy, and breakthrough therapy, and a host of other things that sounded ‘New Age’. Instinct, or was it familiarity, initially pushed me towards the level of most experience, or should I go with the one that specialized in trauma?
Also, I was aware that Time Line Therapy would be faster, in terms of completion, compared with pure hypnosis where I might have to go through a year of allowing old memories to come up. Coincidently, this was the therapist with the most years of experience. After a break, I got that conscious and unconscious agreement, a few weeks later I made the initial consultative appointment. That was the easy part, fortunately the appointment was only a few days away – that was helpful.
It was even sooner than I thought, I arrived a week early! However, I was fitted in and had an exploratory session. I have had five sessions to date, gathering resources, doing some Parts negotiation and integration along with the hypnotherapy.
The question of managing copious emotions, from nothing or muted to actual emotions, in life, and after releasing the dissociated emotions has arisen with my hypnotherapist. I was looking for something more specific from Forum members.
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