Marvel is so Revealing

[Andrian]

About Marvel Movies, like Neil i like to watch them just for the purpose of entertainment, though to be honest like 3D Student has mentioned i did noticed in some marvel movies that there are some "revelations" that maybe are coming through these movies from the society's collective unconscious. For example me also found some parts of the X-Men days of future past pretty interesting, also Captain America the second movie, the whole idea about the hydra project, a project designed by the psychopathic elite to identify by their frequency/ dna/ genes the people who could represent a danger/menace to TPTB and exterminate them all, i found this idea like a reflection, realization on a global unconscious level of the current situation in our world and how it could develop and where it could lead basically, well it's not so fascinating a revelation if you read the news and follow carefully and as objective as possible the worldwide events, though still interesting :D.

About antisocial behaviour, crime(especially in the USA, elsewhere also) regarding black people, i think as a very big/main trigger/factor it may play the society's attitude towards the black comunity. Taking the USA as an example, the black comunity was always considered as second class citizens, more inferior than whites, as a consequence the black people in America have been almost segregated from the society, they had/have to endure many difficulties, obstacles deliberately imposed to them by the white comunity(not all off course), nowadays maybe less than 50 years ago, but still this kind of mentality persists, so it's not difficult to see where all this it leads to, the black comunities being almost excluded from the society of white people are having great difficulties in finding good jobs (being as qualified as white people or even more qualified in some cases) so they struggle more in trying to feed their family, have a decent life, most of the people from black comunity are succeeding despite all the obstacles and breaks imposed on them, but obviously not everyone has the means, possibilities and the will power to endure all these difficulties created/encouraged by TPTB and their authoritarian followers so they just give up and from desperation/anger/frustration/unjustice engage in antisocial behaviour. But as i mentioned previously the whole situation is engineered deliberately by the psychopathic elite and supported by the authoritarians, for many reasons: racism, white race superiority(bull**it), the black comunity being used as a scapegoat for divide and conquer strategy of the TPTB... One example of a set up of the black comunity in California in the '80 by the CIA was the drug smuggling revealed by Gary Webb during his investigations. I found very interesting what had said the C's about the different bodychemistry(the level of tamoxifen hormone) among different races, who may be more susceptible to the manipulations by the 4d STS and it got me thinking, maybe one such manipulation technique is the whole discriminatory/ xenophobic attitude of the psychopaths and their followers towards the black comunity that as a consequence in some of the black people leads to violent behaviour... I hope i didn't muddied the waters. Just my 2 cents

 

[iam]

Thanks Joe, after looking a bit more, I found this one which might be part of it too.

Q: (L) Now, relating to what we have been discussing lately. Did any groups of the black race, on their own, ever create a high civilization as has been reported by several archaeologists or other individuals.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) On their own without assistance?
A: No.
Q: (L) Who did they have assistance from?
A: Lizards.
Q: (L) Why have black people, in general, for most of recorded history, been living in such primitive conditions with such primitive mind set?
A: Isolation from modern interaction.
Q: (L) Why is this?
A: Karma. Punishment for past society which was cruel master hierarchical.
Q: (L) Are black people being abducted by the Lizzies as frequently as white people?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Why do we hear so little, if any, about this?
A: You hear little of black culture in general.
Q: (L) Are black people, within their cultural confines, aware of aliens and alien abductions?
A: Less aware and discuss it less.

this is the session i was referring to amongst others. i am not trying to offend anyone .. just piecing the story together based on what was revealed by he C's. i like marvel and saw similarities, as im sure you guys would find similarities in material you are familiar with where i wouldnt. everything doesnt resonate with everyone, but that doesnt mean the ideas they pull from a different source are incorrect. they are just ideas.

im amazed that portion of information received so much attention, but i can see how it can be taken offensively , so sorry guys.
im shocked no one focused on the fact the the C's refer to black people as NEGROS!?( hmmm)

and has anyone made the connection that the c's said aryans are highly agressive too meaning that they may have a high concentration on tumoxifene? makes me wonder about the session where they said jews are a mix of blacks and aryans.. (hmmm ...) and their role to fight back "those controlling things" in 4th density. (hmm )makes perfect sense why hitler tried to kill them. they knew they would be hard to control in 4d. (and note the c's said in that session that other races are within this defined group of rebellion.

thanks for the great discussion and observations

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[Persej]

Q: (L) Now, relating to what we have been discussing lately. Did any groups of the black race, on their own, ever create a high civilization as has been reported by several archaeologists or other individuals.
A: Yes.

this is the session i was referring to amongst others. i am not trying to offend anyone .. just piecing the story together based on what was revealed by he C's.

And where exactly in the above do you see that it is said that black race is primitive? And also where exactly do you see that in Marvel movies? In Marvel movies there is a battle between ordinary humans and mutants, not between white and black people. Yes, most mutants/heroes are white, but that's because most Hollywood actors are white, not to mentions directors and screenwriters, and in this case the comic book writer.

I mean, the lack of black heroes is not limited only to Marvel moves. There is lack of them in Star Wars movies, Star Trek shows (only one captain was black, and it is my favorite btw), Lord of the Rings, etc. It's nothing new or unusual for Hollywood.

im shocked no one focused on the fact the the C's refer to black people as NEGROS!?( hmmm)

About 'Negros':

Negro superseded colored as the most polite word for African Americans at a time when black was considered more offensive. This word was accepted as normal, including by people classified as Negroes, until the late 1960s, after the later African-American Civil Rights Movement. One well-known example is the identification by Martin Luther King, Jr. of his own race as "Negro" in his famous "I Have a Dream" speech of 1963.

During the civil rights movements era of the 1950s and 1960s, some black American leaders in the United States, notably Malcolm X, objected to the word Negro because they associated it with the long history of slavery, segregation, and discrimination that treated African Americans as second class citizens, or worse. Malcolm X preferred Black to Negro, but also started using the term Afro-American after leaving the Nation of Islam.

The United States Census Bureau announced that Negro would be included on the 2010 United States Census, alongside Black and African-American, because some older black Americans still self-identify with the term.

The word Negro fell out of favor by the early 1970s in the United States after the African-American Civil Rights Movement. However, many older African Americans initially found the term black more offensive than Negro.

The U.S. Census now uses the grouping "Black, African-American, or Negro." Negro is used in efforts to include older African Americans who more closely associate with the term.

In certain parts of Latin America, the usage of "negro" to directly address black people can be colloquial. It is important to understand that this is not similar to the use of the word nigga in English in urban hip hop subculture in the United States, given that "negro" is not a racist term.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negro

and has anyone made the connection that the c's said aryans are highly agressive too meaning that they may have a high concentration on tumoxifene?

They didn't say that Aryans have a high concentration of tumoxifene. You are mixing things.

 

[luke wilson]

I'm a big fan of marvel... no idea what iam is on about when he starts to talk about black/white dynamics in marvel.... how do you explain the writer coming up with wakanda in marvel if his intention was to show black people as being primitive? Did you know they are making a movie that will feature a black marvel superhero?

 

[Renaissance]

this is the session i was referring to amongst others. i am not trying to offend anyone .. just piecing the story together based on what was revealed by he C's. i like marvel and saw similarities, as im sure you guys would find similarities in material you are familiar with where i wouldnt. everything doesnt resonate with everyone, but that doesnt mean the ideas they pull from a different source are incorrect. they are just ideas.

What your putting out there is your idea. It's not coming from Marvel nor the C's. Marvel has created a fantasy world. While people 'visit' such fantasy worlds the mind is usually prone to dissociate. This in itself isn't a bad thing, but it can cause issues with thinking when dissociative processes run wild. This is a common issue and you may find the book Thinking Fast and Slow helpful, if you haven't read it. An example of 'dissociative processes run wild' are the rather disconnected associations you've made. This may, perhaps, be related to childhood programs about race. I think it would be more helpful to look at these issues rather than trying to confirm biases since this isn't the first time this issue has come up in your posts. I think it would be more productive to deal with the reasons you have biases about people who are black rather than trying to find or create theories that confirm thinking that is faulty to begin with.

[quote author=iam]
im shocked no one focused on the fact the the C's refer to black people as NEGROS!?( hmmm) [/quote]

The C's were probably referencing long used anthropological classifications since these are more specific and provide more information than generalities like black or white. Aryan and Nergo races are more descriptive in terms of geographic lineage and physical features (see the wikipedia link provided by Persej). The racist use of negro has a different context, meaning, and intention.

 

[trendsetter37]

im amazed that portion of information received so much attention, but i can see how it can be taken offensively , so sorry guys.
im shocked no one focused on the fact the the C's refer to black people as NEGROS!?( hmmm)

This kind of reads like an apology terminated with a deflection. Why? Well bringing the C's into it, choosing a term that seemingly suits your purpose, and using it out of context points to a motive for me. Just so you know there was/is an actual term that is usually and specifically reserved for demeaning black people. Negro is not one them; it is more of a classification or I guess it adds context when describing the physical characteristics of an individual to another. Sure, it may seem a bit outdated even anachonistic, but if you are getting information that can be seen as timeless then using the word of the 'times' is probably limiting.

But, just to be clear I wasn't really thaaat offended by your initial conclusion (let us call it a hypothesis) of dark skin equating to bad/primitive/bellicose (worse things have been said or done), but more taken aback by how you got to that point. With that being said, it would be a lie to say that my heart rate didn't elevate just a wee bit.

I realized why he was so primitive and powerful when he transformed. I kind of related that to the big bang and gamma ray burst being one of the first, highest and most powerful energies when stuff goes hypernovae! I related his skin color green (since gamma rays have no color) was changed to represent chlorophyll. Then I questioned the process thats uses it which is photosynthesis to absorb light. Then I wondered how to we produced melanin. After all of that I realized why black people are primitive and why white people are more advanced. Interesting he used a rather advanced white scientists that transforms into a primitive state of almost raw power trying to contain itself. The constant battle to maintain and control his primitive self.

A couple of things. If we take away the assertion that a gamma ray is not a color does the remainder of your thought process still hold? Gamma rays are exactly the same thing as color just higher up on the EM spectrum than what we refer to as "colors". I do not understand how the other things were related so concretely as you said.

Lastly, sometimes we can have a string of thoughts similar to these that lead to weird places. But I guess, what I would like to ask is where was the little voice that said "wait a minute, hmm black people are primitive? Maybe we should take a step back". That is a very absolute generalization imo and in my experience life is never that simple.

 

[gdpetti]

Saw this article the other day, and today sott.net has it as well... essentially everything is manipulated.... everything.

http://www.sott.net/article/315079-Nixon-official-The-war-on-drugs-was-designed-to-criminalize-blacks-antiwar-activists

 

[trendsetter37]

Saw this article the other day, and today sott.net has it as well... essentially everything is manipulated.... everything.

http://www.sott.net/article/315079-Nixon-official-The-war-on-drugs-was-designed-to-criminalize-blacks-antiwar-activists

Yep. I saw that the other day as well...it is saddening and I have seen things like that happen firsthand.

Sott article

"The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities. We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

From Persej's Melanine Theory Link

Barnes has charged that white scientists deliberately created drugs, such as cocaine, structured to bind chemically with melanin. Barnes claims that melanin and cocaine have a high affinity for each other because both are alkaloids, and that Black people get addicted faster, stay addicted longer, can test positive for cocaine even a year after its most recent use, and suffer more from these drugs because cocaine co-polymerizes into melanin.[7]
It has been argued that when hair samples are used to test for drug use, people with darker hair may be more likely to test positive for cocaine use, because the binding with melanin ensures that traces persist for a longer period. This would apply to people with dark hair of any race. A 2005 study by Tom Mieczkowski and Michael Kruger suggests that the binding effect is minor.[14]

What's up with that last statement. If you go to wikipedia and click the link to the paper it results in a 404. It is no longer there or has been erased. Ok that is curious. So I went to find the actual paper and I will only post the abstract so as to not waste anyone's time with the field of conducting experiments to fulfill a narrative. One that seems to be thrown in as an afterthought.

This paper examines the hypothesis that cocaine and BE assays of hair demonstrate a putative bias effect for darker color hair samples.
Although such an effect has been reported in the literature, no one has examined this claim outside the bounds of simple significance
of mean difference. In this paper a large number of black and brown hair samples are compared for cocaine and BE concentration values,
and this comparison is evaluated for both significance and effect size. Two innovative measures are used to assess this relationship – a
calculation of effect size using Cohens d, and the use of an ROC curve to evaluate the potential for a dark color bias. The paper reports
mixed results for significance, but consistent results for effect size. There does not appear to be any significant effect for cocaine. While BE
demonstrates a significant mean difference, both the effect size and the ROC analysis show the effect to be trivial.

Looking at the first statement one would assume that if you want to see if this were truly the case you would test blonde hair in comparison with black hair. Alas, they did no such thing. They tested black hair versus brown. I am darker and my hair is black towards the roots but begins to turn brown/red all on its own towards the tips. Sometimes more so in the summer. My point being is that there is variance here and to account for that try two colors that are harder to find naturally on someone of a darker complexion if you really want to test the proposed hypothesis.

In short, their experimental setup doesn't align with the narrative they are trying to prove. This is not to say that the original notion of cocaine affecting black people with higher concentrations of melanin significantly more than others is correct. I cannot prove that at all but I can see, or so it seems to me, that there is something weird about that experiment.

Not to belabor too fine a point here but in general...

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Saw this article the other day, and today sott.net has it as well... essentially everything is manipulated.... everything.

[*]Neil's post here really sums up why all of this isn't so simple
[*]{Some comment about the details being the natural habitat for the devil}
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[iam]

ive been away too long and forgot that this group can be very voicetrous (spell check) in their opinions lol. ill try and make it clearer for you guys that are offended by what i wrote .. sheese

first off im a woman (for those who called me "he" and im considered black! AND i love my race along with all of the other races out there. so i , of all people would not want my race to be considered "primitive" and i also took offense to it when i initially read it years ago. instead of jumping down anyones throat, i did research and understood why the c's said they are "primitive" in one of their sessions. i "think" it was the one where laura asked the c's "why are asian indians so 'terribly' black"... i simply restated what i read.

now ..being primitive can be good and bad , but in this instance i began to realize that primitive simply means on older body model OR it could be more like closer to an original state of being. then as i recalled the comic books on the origins of the hulk and a few others ( NOT THE MOVIES ) .. it made more sense what the c's were implying.

if u are not a marvel fan or do not see the connection that i see .. that is totally fine .all that matters is that a resource came in my path that helped ME understand the material from the c's more clearly. i posted this to see if anyone else could make the connections that i did, but as i see no one else did. (but maybe i the future they will and it will help them gain clarity)

and far as the person trying to defend the word "negro" to someone who grew up being called a negro (amongst other things) to degrade me .. is NOT the most endearing term! i dont know any black people from at least the 80's until now who would be okay being called a NEGRO or COLORED! THAT IS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE where i come from. so please stop it! NEGRO IS NOT A TERM YOU MAY WANT TO APPROACH A BLACK PERSON WITH IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A CONFRONTATION AND YOU ARE NOT BLACK.. i also dont know too many black people who would get upset being called "black" unless you use another adjective with it to imply disrespect.

so again for those who were offended by what i gathered from the early material of the c's .. im sorry!!
for those who cant seem to grasp how i came to tie the two worlds of marvel and the c's together while trying to belittle me.. im sorry .. its hard to convey information via text.. and i tried to the best of my ability to get out what i was thinking on my lunch break which is not a lot of time! this is a forum to share ideas and thats what i did.

i also appreciate those who did get in my butt for what i said, because it CAN be taken offensively.. i sometimes forget that everybody on here may not have read as far as others have, or missed certain information. thank you so much for not allowing someone to come on here and spew out racists ideas.

i am no expert on anything.i am simply on a journey of growth, and try and share my ideas the best way i can so others can build on it. thats it. i work two full times jobs .. im a mother of a handicap child .. i care for my handicap parent and i also am dealing with a myraid of my own health issues .. so im sorry if i dont have time to dig through years of lauras hard work and research to give you guys threads upon threads of examples to prove an "idea". i will try my best to quote information if i can find it.

thanks guys! and much love

 

[Persej]

ive been away too long and forgot that this group can be very voicetrous (spell check) in their opinions lol. ill try and make it clearer for you guys that are offended by what i wrote .. sheese

first off im a woman (for those who called me "he" and im considered black! AND i love my race along with all of the other races out there. so i , of all people would not want my race to be considered "primitive" and i also took offense to it when i initially read it years ago. instead of jumping down anyones throat, i did research and understood why the c's said they are "primitive" in one of their sessions. i "think" it was the one where laura asked the c's "why are asian indians so 'terribly' black"... i simply restated what i read.

now ..being primitive can be good and bad , but in this instance i began to realize that primitive simply means on older body model OR it could be more like closer to an original state of being. then as i recalled the comic books on the origins of the hulk and a few others ( NOT THE MOVIES ) .. it made more sense what the c's were implying.

I found that session that you mention:

this is the session i was referring to amongst others. i am not trying to offend anyone .. just piecing the story together based on what was revealed by he C's. i like marvel and saw similarities, as im sure you guys would find similarities in material you are familiar with where i wouldnt. everything doesnt resonate with everyone, but that doesnt mean the ideas they pull from a different source are incorrect. they are just ideas.

What your putting out there is your idea. It's not coming from Marvel nor the C's. Marvel has created a fantasy world. While people 'visit' such fantasy worlds the mind is usually prone to dissociate. This in itself isn't a bad thing, but it can cause issues with thinking when dissociative processes run wild. This is a common issue and you may find the book Thinking Fast and Slow helpful, if you haven't read it. An example of 'dissociative processes run wild' are the rather disconnected associations you've made. This may, perhaps, be related to childhood programs about race. I think it would be more helpful to look at these issues rather than trying to confirm biases since this isn't the first time this issue has come up in your posts. I think it would be more productive to deal with the reasons you have biases about people who are black rather than trying to find or create theories that confirm thinking that is faulty to begin with.

[quote author=iam]
im shocked no one focused on the fact the the C's refer to black people as NEGROS!?( hmmm)

The C's were probably referencing long used anthropological classifications since these are more specific and provide more information than generalities like black or white. Aryan and Nergo races are more descriptive in terms of geographic lineage and physical features (see the wikipedia link provided by Persej). The racist use of negro has a different context, meaning, and intention.
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[iam]

ive read everything persej and my perspective is still the same.
maybe you should reread what i stated, because some of your responses to a few of my statements show that you maybe think i said something that i did not.

when "someone" ask why black people are in primitive conditions and have a primitive mindset, and a response follows to describe why, implies to me that both parties are in agreement to the statement made.
there was no correction to the inquirer that their statement was incorrect.

i guess everyone has a different idea of what primitive means maybe.. i explained MY perspective of what primitive meant to ME .. which is what lead me to my statement.

maybe you wanted to see that the c's said "black people are primitive"? instead of them explaining why the inquiry was correct? is it not?

nice analysis though, definitely made me think :)

 

[Persej]

when "someone" ask why black people are in primitive conditions and have a primitive mindset, and a response follows to describe why, implies to me that both parties are in agreement to the statement made.
there was no correction to the inquirer that their statement was incorrect.

Well, the statement is correct. Most of black people were (and many still are) living in a primitive conditions with a primitive mind set, compared to the rest of the world.

i guess everyone has a different idea of what primitive means maybe.. i explained MY perspective of what primitive meant to ME .. which is what lead me to my statement.

Well, first of all, it is quite hard to follow your lines of thought, and second of all, once you finally said that by "primitive" you mean that black people have a body that is "closer to the original state of being", we saw that your perspective is simply wrong. If you trust the C's, of course.

maybe you wanted to see that the c's said "black people are primitive"? instead of them explaining why the inquiry was correct? is it not?

No, what I want is to see is what does Hulk have to do with the black people?

 

[bjorb]

[quote author= iam]i guess everyone has a different idea of what primitive means maybe[/quote]

Being primitive to me entails conquering and colonizing the unknown world. Most tribes forced into slavery or exterminated lived peacefully. If you ask me, WW1 happened way before 1914.

Gurdjieff said that : 'Modern civilization is based on violence and slavery and fine words' I can only agree. Or as Martin Luther King once said: 'A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom'

Technology does not make a civilization civilized or advanced. It depends on how you use it. The Western world is spiritual death. Tribes that provide and can take each other into consideration are generally socially way more advanced than the West is. Don't forget that it is us who follow the course of entropy.

 

[luke wilson]

I think primitive is a matter of perspective. From my perspective, I can maybe say a tribe still living in the amazon, removed from what I consider modern society to be is a primitive. However, from a member of that tribes perspective, maybe they are happy to live as they do and as they live, it makes sense to them. Or maybe they might not even be happy to live as they do, but still regardless, their life has some meaning to it - hopes/wishes/experiences etc.

So, for me, if I'm saying they are primitive, it is because I'm comparing them to the world I'm immersed in, the one that I think they aren't immersed in or are having problems integrating into. One thing that comes to mind is that I may be judging them from my view but I may lack understanding of theirs. In life, having spent time in the 'primitive' part of Africa and in the 'primitive' villages/countryside with the people who have pretty much lived all their lives in that environment and also some who moved out to integrate with modern society I can safely say that things make sense from many different perspectives from the point of the perceiver. The world of that person living in a place without electricity or running water makes sense to them, the world of that person living hand to mouth working multiple jobs in a city somewhere in the states makes sense to them, the world of that person who's living it up enjoying all the spoils of our times makes sense to them etc... It makes sense to them because they are adapted into it and that's the thing, the ability of human beings to adapt into countless different scenarios.

So, to conclude, primitive for me is a matter of comparison and more than that, it's usually comparison where one person is adapted into their world but can't occupy another simultaneously to see how things would look if they were adapted into the other (that is, to realise still that life will have meaning)

 

[duyunne]

One thing of note when it comes to the correlations of crime and black people in modern day consciousness is the private prison industrial/media complex in the U.S.

I included media in there as it's clear that facets of black culture, particularly hip hop, has been usurped by crime indulgent memes since the late 80s and have snow balled into an anti-spirited burden on pop culture as a whole.

Basically, these hormone differences certainly exacerbate the crime culture being celebrated as a profit machine by mainstream media, which in turn makes for a thriving private prison population, it's pretty clear that this is a surreptitious form of slavery when you factor in the government income and inmate labor programs that inmates are exposed to.

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Another note is the success of acts such as NWA, who proudly donned the phrase "-flick- the police". Dr Dre has a networth of 700 million these days, where as who some can consider his competitor during his rise, Tupac Shakur began to bring a lucid political dialogue to his interviews and in his lyrics before his untimely demise.

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Here are quotes from Tupac _http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/tupac_shakur.html
If only he could have continued his line of thinking as a living example.