Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?
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Saw one of those "drones" in NJ at night a few days ago, in Western part of NJ. 4 lights, two white, one red, one green, in a square type formation. It oscillated from side to side across field of vision until tree lines. Couldn't tell how high up it was, or how large it was. Couldn't hear propellers but there was a lot of background noise from trucks. No missing time from what I can tell. Others saw it as well. Didn't think much of it at the time so didn't think to follow it visually, since we were activelly working at the time. We did have an emergency there at the time, with lots of trucks, do I can imagine the possibility exists of a local news agency or a civilian trying to see what was happening, rather than an "out of the blue" appearance. Didn't have my phone on me to record.
I agree with the guy from New Jersey. Something doesn't add up, and it really is strange that the government does not have a clue. I have to suspect some sort of psy-op from some quarter. Is it the beginning of some slow indoctrination? Are these drones products of 3d entirely, or is there some 4d technology present? Who can make this a worldwide happening? I have to think this is what the C's meant in the last session on 23/11/24:
There's an 'aliens are good guys' sort of idea being thrown around online right now, I just remind myself there's no free lunch in this universe. It will be interesting to see what forms as the 'official explanation'.
Also New Jersey, a report on drones above Trump's Bedminster golf course and also a nearby military base. Unlike classic UFOs, these drones emit loud noise, but not always like a typical prop drone. In one case over NJ, a family in their car followed a drone and while it hovered above them, the time on the clock in their car changed and then reverted back after it flew off.
The clock change is odd. A few thoughts:
1) Could be human error - but it was a family, so that may lower the odds of human error.
2) It was a human drone with new tech (that messed with the clock in the car).
3) It is a UFO (i.e. 4D tech) that has either:
a) changed it's camouflage/appearance (perhaps based on the collective subconscious idea of 'drones') to include sound.
b) has bled through way more than usual, and does in our environment emit sound.
I'd kind of like it to be 3.
Harrison and I were talking recently about the historical record of UFOs and how, at periods in history when these things were seen ("flaps" or whatever) and human aircraft existed, the UFOs took the shape of (or were perceived to take the shape of) craft that were extant at the time or, any craft that the closest approximation for the people of the day, or of the first widely disseminated impressions of eyewitnesses.
For example, there were many sightings of anomalous "airships" or "balloons" during flaps pre-aviation when only 'blimps' were known. There's even an old in report in one of keel's books of an eyewitness seeing a ship slowly 'sailing' across the sky not far above a small church. The 'ship' was trailing an anchor that got stuck on the bell tower of the church and a man in silver suit climbed over the side and 'swam' through the air, down to the anchor, detached it, 'swam' back up and 'sailed off'.
On January 25, 1878, the Denison Daily News printed an article in which John Martin, a local farmer, reported an object resembling a balloon flying "at wonderful speed". The newspaper said it appeared to be about the size of a saucer from his perspective, one of the first uses of the word "saucer" in association with a UFO, used to describe the size rather than the shape.
Then of course you have the modern 'saucers', which is a result of the first widely reported sighting of a UFO in 1947 by news media for the objects pilot Kenneth Arnold claimed flew alongside his airplane above Washington State. Thereafter, everyone saw 'saucers'. That said, fantasy artwork in pulp magazines depicted flying discs as early as the late 1920s. One of the first depictions of a "flying saucer", by illustrator Frank R. Paul appeared on the cover of the November 1929 issue of Hugo Gernsback's pulp science fiction magazine Science Wonder Stories. This may suggest a seeding of the idea of saucers into the public mind via 'artistic types'.
Anyway, today, we have drones. And so...
tschai
Dagobah Resident
The statements concern me - We don’t know where the drones are coming from, who is operating them or what their purpose is- but, hey folks no concern for public safety. Seriously? Drones of this size and capability could be used for virtually anything, including being outfitted with weapons at some point. They say they take the matter seriously, but the things are operating with impunity in US airspace and no moves to stop them. Something fishy about that.
I've read dozens or hundreds of mini reports from the past week or two, most based from NJ. These are the anomalous details that stick out (with the obvious proviso that any of these accounts could be wrong):
-drones that look like 737s, but which are basically floating or traveling slowly 150 feet overhead
-drones that look like planes but which are silent
-an "uncanny valley" aspect to the drones, like "FAA lights" which appear more like Christmas lights - too many, some oddly placed on the body of the "plane"
-reports of "mothership" type activity - i.e. one large "drone" surrounded by multiple smaller drones; and drones "dropping" orbs or smaller drones
-local witness: "They look like planes but move unlike planes... These were going up and down and then at one point one of them stopped... two were low and one over it was higher."
-Gov Phil Murphy: “The minute you get eyes on them, they go dark… This is something we’re taking deadly seriously.”
Some of the more interesting videos and pictures (again, any one of which could be faked):
-drone/orb caught on telescope camera
-large low-flying drone thing
-boomerang shaped drone caught by a Fox anchor's family
-pics taken by 300mm camera - orbs and lights
-flying Christmas tree ;)
-rotating cop light
-plane shape seems to just rotate midair
-"hundreds" per night, none on flightradar
-drones that look like 737s, but which are basically floating or traveling slowly 150 feet overhead
-drones that look like planes but which are silent
-an "uncanny valley" aspect to the drones, like "FAA lights" which appear more like Christmas lights - too many, some oddly placed on the body of the "plane"
-reports of "mothership" type activity - i.e. one large "drone" surrounded by multiple smaller drones; and drones "dropping" orbs or smaller drones
-local witness: "They look like planes but move unlike planes... These were going up and down and then at one point one of them stopped... two were low and one over it was higher."
-Gov Phil Murphy: “The minute you get eyes on them, they go dark… This is something we’re taking deadly seriously.”
Some of the more interesting videos and pictures (again, any one of which could be faked):
-drone/orb caught on telescope camera
-large low-flying drone thing
-boomerang shaped drone caught by a Fox anchor's family
-pics taken by 300mm camera - orbs and lights
-flying Christmas tree ;)
-rotating cop light
-plane shape seems to just rotate midair
-"hundreds" per night, none on flightradar
I remember reading the example of a 'blimp' (I think from Keel?), the occupants looking like small Chinese men and the inside of the craft containing steam pipes/valves etc
Whether it's the viewer interpreting it through a known (subconscious/collective) lens, or 4D 'picking' a disguise I'm still not sure. Although I tend to think it's a mix whilst leaning a little more towards 4D 'picking'.
I think some older UFO reports included roaring sounds from the craft, so maybe these sounds are something they can do? Although I imagine their will be anomalies to the sounds.
Yep, he also wrote about mystery airplanes.
"Airplane-like Objects:Keel was deeply interested in “mimicry” phenomena, where anomalous objects resembled terrestrial aircraft but exhibited impossible or bizarre behaviors. He would argue that these airplane-like objects are "constructed illusions" designed to create plausible deniability.In Keel’s view, these entities often present themselves in forms just recognizable enough to evade scrutiny but still provoke awe and confusion."
Same here. They're like the MIBs. Good enough to keep people in a conversation, but uncanny enough for them to realize something isn't quite right.
Yeah. They can probably closely mimic any sound the want.
I remember reading about an old UFO sighting where a "flying saucer" had an exhaust pipe with smoke as if it were mimicking earth's technology. There are also many off examples in John Keel's books. UFOs mimicking drones wouldn't be unexpected.
Clif High says he is getting requests from MSM for interviews. He is trending on YouTube it seems. He thinks the aliens are (probably) 'good guys', except for the 'Elohim type'. So I can see Clif being used as part of some particular narrative around all the recent UFO hype and sightings. Maybe he will team up with Richard Greer.
Given how prevalent these "drones" are, my top hypothesis is aliens. However, I think it's worth considering a few other hypotheses. The other ones floating around are these:
-"transnational criminal mafia"
-Russians or Chinese
-deep state
If it is any human actor, they are performing a massive demonstration of power - daily incursions over sensitive facilities, worldwide, and over something like 20 NJ counties for multiple weeks. Someone speculated this might be a show of force against the Trump administration, basically, "We're the ones in control." These drones can't be tracked, caught, or jammed. No one knows where they come from or who manufactured them.
If controlled by humans, they are probably using NHI-derived technology. This would mean a nation state (Russia, China) or a non-nation state cabal (I'd include the U.S. "secret government" in that category, since it is for all intents and purposes several steps removed from the official chain of command). And if it's not Russia or China (why would Russia use a show of force like this to spook the Americans and not help them win in Ukraine?), that leaves the secret government, which includes private aerospace corporations and security contractors. But at that level, there is very little difference between the SG and the aliens/undergrounders themselves, which brings us back to the alien hypothesis.
-"transnational criminal mafia"
-Russians or Chinese
-deep state
If it is any human actor, they are performing a massive demonstration of power - daily incursions over sensitive facilities, worldwide, and over something like 20 NJ counties for multiple weeks. Someone speculated this might be a show of force against the Trump administration, basically, "We're the ones in control." These drones can't be tracked, caught, or jammed. No one knows where they come from or who manufactured them.
If controlled by humans, they are probably using NHI-derived technology. This would mean a nation state (Russia, China) or a non-nation state cabal (I'd include the U.S. "secret government" in that category, since it is for all intents and purposes several steps removed from the official chain of command). And if it's not Russia or China (why would Russia use a show of force like this to spook the Americans and not help them win in Ukraine?), that leaves the secret government, which includes private aerospace corporations and security contractors. But at that level, there is very little difference between the SG and the aliens/undergrounders themselves, which brings us back to the alien hypothesis.
