Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?

[Joe]

I think that Joe is suffering from "flock of geese" syndrome.

Not really, I'm just not inclined to jump to pre-formed confirmation bias conclusions like so many are. I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact, it's a better approach for various reasons I already outlined.

OK, but these sightings started before November 25th.

They started around the time, maybe a week earlier, but really kicked off from then until now.

These drones are not falling down, but hovering.

Why would you think I was suggesting that burning up satellites are the answer? I posted that because some people have actually posted the video of the starlink satellites falling in 2022 and portrayed them as "drones from NJ".

And what was the response to it? Letting the drones do whatever they want? That's not how you defend your country.

The suggestion is that it may, in part, be a simulation of a drone attack, i.e. a drone response to invading drones, SIMULATED.

 

[Musicinventor]

An interesting perspective on the situation…

 

[Cosmos]

As Joe said today on the radio show, at the very least, given how advanced even commercial drones can be/behave nowadays, it makes differentiating them from the real UFO/Alien phenomena much more difficult in many cases including in hindsight.

 

[Joe]

It seems it may be a test of some drone system etc - It's ok. What doesn't fit in this explanation is the areas where they do it and lack of clear public statement . I'm guessing they have multiple goals - purely technical test - which is perfect excuse, if they are pressed enough to provide explanation, then most important (IMHO) probing for public reaction, panic response, fear generation etc. If this is the case, what would be best possible reaction from the public to such event? How *should* we react to all this?

I think there is definitely multiple agendas being fulfilled here. That is often the case with such operations.

 

[seeker2seer]

That is quit a small area for the test area, 2 nautical miles radius. Does not explain them flying in from the ocean and seen some kilometer from the cost but it may explain and justify a reaction from our overseers.

If they were and are indeed flying drone base on new drone technologies with advance capacities, it may have prompted a reaction from 4th density observer and not only sts but sto as well. As any good farmer would investigate what is exciting his chicken coop and what we are witnessing may have multiple level of technology which would explain the varieties of ``drone`` witnessed and filmed so far. From witnessed some are solid, some other as pictured are more probe like, spherical and semi transparent and others without apparent material structure. It sure is difficult to make one is mind but closing any possibility at the moment seems to me premature. We know that the MIC have technology way ahead of what is admitted but any such display will in my book bring a reaction from our overlord as I think was the case in other area of the globe as in southern Manitoba in the seventies. It all started with conventional saucer shaped disc and after some time, probe of spherical shape and even a big triangular ship were seen.

I think so far that it is too early to jump to conclusion and eliminate any possibilities as whose technology is behind this flap. I see a variety of ‘’drone’’ of many shape and characteristic that do not permit me so far to eliminate any possibility.

Who knows, it may be Santa testing a new distributing system before Christmas.

I also agree with that being a small testing area. Instead, it is most likely a notice for other aircraft or drone operators to avoid the airspace over the arsenal as defensive measures will be taken in response to the unidentified aerial vehicles/drones first reported over the arsenal on November 13th per their own statement to a local New Jersey newspaper.
They're not our drones, says Picatinny Arsenal. But Morris base confirms sightings

 

[Temperance]

FWIW, anyone who thinks they're seeing something, download an app called flight radar for your phone. There's also other apps with other names that do the same thing. You can use the free version. It will show you all the registered aircraft in the area, so you can at least rule out airplanes. Do note that military craft may not show up on it, but it can help us start distinguishing what's a plane and what's not, since relative position may sometimes make us think something is hovering, moving weird, etc.

 

[Metrist]

New Jersey has the most military installations of any state. One of them has to do with long range navigation. The only branch of service not in New Jersey is the Marines.
So, if you have all these installations, it is ideal to do research there.

Being such a military dependent state, the idea of automated warfare is a frightening prospect. And so along with normal secrecy, discretion is also a consideration as this represents automated warfare and a end to traditional military expenditures - effecting the economies surrounding military installations. So they spin this into a mystery to hide the fact that they want to do away with outdated tech, and defense costs, and how it affects the state. Maybe?

 

[Gawan]

I'm not entirely sure if you can start a regular drone in a no-fly-zone (airports/military bases). As far I'm aware of, DJI (one main producer of drones) doesn't even let you start your drone in a no-fly-zone. Also, at airports and military bases they should easily detect drones.

The restrictions can be tough, you can lose your drone, license and some hefty fines, depending on in which country you fly and which drone you fly. So I'm not sure if these are amateurs. Of course, you can risk it and many people do it. But I'm not sure if you would do it with a several thousand € drone.

What is at least strange in some cases, that some drones still have their lights on. I guess there are UFOs, drones and crazy free riders.

At least in Germany, there were also two reports of drone sightings at the US-military air base Ramstein and the chem-giant BASF. But no videos or footage.

 

[Mark7]

An interesting perspective on the situation…

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[tschai]

the idea of automated warfare is a frightening prospect.

This makes a lot of sense. It doesn’t take a huge leap of imagination to realize that wars are moving towards being largely automated, and drones are a significant part of that process- not just the type we are seeing, but fighter craft (UAVs) submarines and even ships will all be or are already automated, soon fully autonomous humanoid robots will take to the battlefield if things are allowed to progress to that point. How long before they turn on us and we become the enemy? Will 4D STS have any say in this, or maybe this is part of the plan. In truth, we can only speculate as to what “they” are up to, and the actual answer is probably more frightening and bizarre than we can imagine. Eyes and mind open, all of us here working together to put the pieces together.