Massive tornado rips through Oklahoma City suburbs - emergency issued

[QuantumLogic]

This will be an ongoing discussion of reports on the recent tornado that destroyed much of the Oklahoma City suburbs.

I have just come home from work to find out about this incident. While it pales in comparison to the destruction of lives the US inflicts on other countries, it is nonetheless exceptional. The part that seems to affect me the most emotionally is the destruction of the school with children present. I can only think at this point that when society reaches the point we have that the universe is indiscriminate in its' equalization of the balance of things.

I am just stunned by this, and am equally concerned with events involving other countries and their people. It seems the universe is upping the pace of corrective action against those (we minor humans) who have not changed our view and thought process of our world and the universe as a whole organism. These are just my thoughts, but I must admit I am emotionally affected by this, and truly realize whether it is due to "natural" occurrence or the machinations of psychopathis forces on our would this is the wave of the future(or at least as I see it, which mat be flawed).

http://www.sott.net/article/261973-Massive-tornado-rips-through-Oklahoma-City-suburbs-emergency-issued

Edit: Sorry- forgot link to original story.

 

[Horseofadifferentcolor]

I just watched a video of a guy that filmed one of these tornados. I don't know why I would do that. I am very scared of tornados and have had night mares my whole life. All this week I have been dreaming of massive ones as large as the hills themselves.

Anyway, I read down some of the comment section and it was just horrid. All people had to say was about god being real or not, or it was his fault or not, and other arguments to who should have done what, or had what kind of shelter should have been built. This was on CNN

This is just awful and people are just bickering about a bunch of bolony. I really hope these new storms are not the new normal for weather. I really need to get a move on digging out a shelter.

 

[Horseofadifferentcolor]

Also, I hope all the forum members in this area are ok

 

[Nawd]

In Joplin, MO in 2011, there were 158 people die. Many people from that area are there in Moore, OK, or headed there. Joplin is not that far away from me.

I know they there will be massive help for these folks.

 

[PerihelionX]

I am just stunned by this, and am equally concerned with events involving other countries and their people. It seems the universe is upping the pace of corrective action against those (we minor humans) who have not changed our view and thought process of our world and the universe as a whole organism.

I'd be hesitant to victim blame humanity for the disasters it experiences. While there may be some truth to humanity manifesting disasters from its collective concsiousness, it also may be the case that disasters are neutral and our fear of them reflects our limited consciousness. It could also be that disasters are positive and reflect "birth pangs" of a new level of awareness. If you think about it from a broader perspective, people dying or losing material possessions is a morally nuetral event. Therefore, it could happen to even the best and most "enlightened"people.

See the the Book of Job myth for an exploration of this concept.

 

[l apprenti de forgeron]

I am just stunned by this, and am equally concerned with events involving other countries and their people. It seems the universe is upping the pace of corrective action against those (we minor humans) who have not changed our view and thought process of our world and the universe as a whole organism.

I'd be hesitant to victim blame humanity for the disasters it experiences. While there may be some truth to humanity manifesting disasters from its collective concsiousness, it also may be the case that disasters are neutral and our fear of them reflects our limited consciousness. It could also be that disasters are positive and reflect "birth pangs" of a new level of awareness. If you think about it from a broader perspective, people dying or losing material possessions is a morally nuetral event. Therefore, it could happen to even the best and most "enlightened"people.

See the the Book of Job myth for an exploration of this concept.

I agree with you, PerihelionX. My problem With The whole thing, is the suffering of the innocent (the Book of Job). Or rather, the suffering of the ignorant. An example-elephant is the ignore psychopaths in power, not recognized for what they are, inter-species predators. And part of his schedule to Maintain Control passes to deny information to the masses about cyclical climate changes. Is the suffering generated by psychopaths in ordinary people who ignore them. Is part, I think, of suffering by ignoring the negative aspects of life.
Or health issues. Diseases like cancer that Could instead Prevents by the knowledge of emotional cleansing, food and social relations (get away from the pathological). I know it's more complex than these simple words.
This "vale of tears", "hell on earth" surrounds each individually on this planet, because We Are sts, leads to nihilism (Which was prepared by the materialistic official science and monotheism), as the same is shown as physicality devouring prison for all of us. Sure, from a materialistic point of view, if you only have one body and one life, is overwhelming ("life is unfair.") But for people with soul, Perhaps DECIDED on another level of consciousness and density, experience all this to graduate from 3d. So be fair, no? It's all very complex issue of justice when it is not only "of this world" and when it involves so much human suffering. But I believe that justice, cyclical natural laws, must exist. Knowing them is the problem (I hope to talk in this way about nature not be something too anthropocentric, or to pass the unknown by something simple).

 

[PerihelionX]

I like your thoughts. The problem of suffering is very complicated (or perhaps only so because we make it so). On one hand we can see that good/evil is a matter of perspective. On another hand good/evil is real to those who experience it. Ingoring evil propogates it, while responding to evil by gaining knowledge mitigates it. However, I think to achieve real progress one has to respond with gaining knowledge of a higher/deeper nature when compared to the problem. Psychopaths seek to control the physical realm because this is all they understand. To defeat their plot we gain knowledge of the emotional and spiritual, a realm outside of their understanding. In this way evil becomes a catalyst driving us deeper into the mystery of reality. We are a sort of cosmic refugee from entrapments at lower levels. If we instead seek to combat evil at its own level of knowledge we either fail from lack of power or become the evil we seek to stop. Another way to see this is STS vs STO. STO seeking to network and gain a broader and deeper understanding while STS seeks to manipulate based on a limited zero sum set of information. In anycase, to get back to the original issue, it's dangerous to say that things happen because we are defective. That would be like saying students get tests because they're deficient. Surely there is some truth to this but the pejorative judgmental slant is unwarranted. Students get tests so they can learn. In this way, disasters are nuetral events.

 

[RedFox]

It may be worth considering just how long humans have been suffering and dying (mechanically) because of the same 'ignorance' - the following (and acceptance) of pathological leaders. I would suggest it has been going on ever since psychopaths emerged in the human race.
The only real difference is the scale and speed of the suffering and devastation seems to be accelerating exponentially. I've watched millions suffer and die around the planet in my life time (and those are only the ones I know of reported on the news).....and I have yet to find a good reason why any of it should not have been preventable. It broke my heart as a small child and it breaks it now.
Knowing that the suffering and needless death of others could be prevented (including this disaster - and I imagine the same when their is mass starvation/plague/cometary bombardment/ice age) puts it into perspective when you consider how long this has been going on, and how many times these cycles have repeated themselves.
The point of seeing seems to be to learn how to escape that trap (by not adding to the suffering - yours or others), and help others do the same. The method seems to be helping others despite the probable odds stacked against you.