Maurice Borden Cooke and Kyle Griffith

[panoptix]

Hi there.


I was studying the channeled material of Hilarion (Cooke) in relation with other stuff produced by automatic writing from the Invisible College (Griffith). Both «authors» worked in a conscious state: The former while meditating with Yoga and the latter as he explains:

War in Heaven (pp. 12-13)
A spirit guide is simply a spirit on the astral plane with sufficient mental stability and psychic powers to communicate easily with a particular medium, and who is willing to form a personal relationship. Another thing to look for between the lines of the literature: this relationship is often overtly sexual. A medium's spirit guide often receives some of the energy raised during physical sexual activity. Only the Eastern Tantric magicians and Western students of sex magic write and talk openly about this, but almost all mediums practice it.

The Hilarion Material has been split in several books (most of them are unavailable in paper form today):

• The Nature of Reality
• Other Kingdoms
• Seasons of the Spirit
• Einstein Doesn't Work Here Anymore: A Treatise on Noble Gases
• Dark Robes, Dark Brothers

I think a few of you will find the latter two with awesome insights on Primary Points and the Edenic Fall.

Both works explain Fourth Density with extremely remarkably similarities: being Maurice Borden Cooke an Engineer or Physicist, some of the technical explanation are very clear under the scientific framework. Moreover, Griffith gives a neat and pre-eminent explanation on the interaction of subatomic particles which is the of the fabric of the soul and physical particles:

The principal difference between astral matter and physical matter is that all astral subatomic particles possess much less mass than equivalent particles of physical matter. The charges and the mass ratios of the particles of astral atoms are about the same as those of physical atoms. In other words, the particles that compose the nucleus of an atom of astral matter have a positive or neutral electrical charge and their mass is greater than that of the negatively charged particles that revolve around the nucleus. However, the astral subatomic particles equivalent to physical protons and neutrons are much less massive than physical electrons. Since physicists often describe physical electrons as having “negligible mass” compared with physical protons and neutrons, this means that the total mass of astral atoms is extremely small.

This is another topic that caught my attention: «Kantek» is referred in Cooke's as «Jmojer» but with the same denouement:

This thought-form is the remnant in the aether of a previous planet which no longer exists, and which once was located in the region between Mars and Jupiter. That earlier planet was called Jmojer, and it was for a long time the planet of physical incarnation for those among the fallen angels who wished to make restitution in order to regain the bliss had lost. The experiment failed. The being incarnated on Jmojer relentlessly turned back to evil ways and habits, and little in the way of redemption was ever achieved there. [...]

Well, think that's enough to give a general outlook.

BTW: Griffith's work addresses the Theocrats who fight against the members of the Invisible College; both sides seems to me STS, but with different interests and its clear in the books that Hilarion also plays «the chess game» with humans free will, so «he» may be described as a Theocrat IMHO:

Q. Do they get this direct access during the religious mind-control process, and if so, why aren't people who don't attend religious services immune to it?
R: Religious mind control is practiced in many different places besides religious services. The Theocrats often practice it on the crowds attending sporting events, in gambling casinos, at political rallies, during musical concerts of many types, and in a number of other places. Whenever many people enter an intense emotional state at the same time and have their collective attention focused on a common objective. Theocratic spirits can use subconscious telepathic manipulation to put them into a religious trance and reprogram their minds with religious mind control.
The Invisible College used the rock concerts, peace demonstrations, “love-ins,” and similar events of the Sixties for exactly the same purposes. Before that we used meetings of fraternal organizations, a variety of progressive political meetings, and even the circuses and carnivals that used to visit every American village and town, as the Theocrats used, and still use, touring revival meetings. And the Invisible College will continue to practice religious mind control to reprogram people as long as the Theocrats do.

Feedback is really appreciated.

 

[palestine]

Hi there.


I was studying the channeled material of Hilarion (Cooke) in relation with other stuff produced by automatic writing from the Invisible College (Griffith). Both «authors» worked in a conscious state: The former while meditating with Yoga and the latter as he explains:



The Hilarion Material has been split in several books (most of them are unavailable in paper form today):

• The Nature of Reality
• Other Kingdoms
• Seasons of the Spirit
• Einstein Doesn't Work Here Anymore: A Treatise on Noble Gases
• Dark Robes, Dark Brothers

I think a few of you will find the latter two with awesome insights on Primary Points and the Edenic Fall.

Both works explain Fourth Density with extremely remarkably similarities: being Maurice Borden Cooke an Engineer or Physicist, some of the technical explanation are very clear under the scientific framework. Moreover, Griffith gives a neat and pre-eminent explanation on the interaction of subatomic particles which is the of the fabric of the soul and physical particles:



This is another topic that caught my attention: «Kantek» is referred in Cooke's as «Jmojer» but with the same denouement:



Well, think that's enough to give a general outlook.

BTW: Griffith's work addresses the Theocrats who fight against the members of the Invisible College; both sides seems to me STS, but with different interests and its clear in the books that Hilarion also plays «the chess game» with humans free will, so «he» may be described as a Theocrat IMHO:



Feedback is really appreciated.

Hello, I would say that because of the following phrase:

And the Invisible College will continue to practice religious mind control to reprogram people as long as the Theocrats do.

You may want to remain absolutely away from any form of ingestion/integration of this material; studying it, observing it, would be another story, as long as you wouldn't adopt the concepts, develop affinity, etc.

That's because [re]-programming shouldn't occur without the person being in the know, being asked about it. Those people bypass a very important step, and they end up freely "doing things to others", things that they find relevant (or whatever). This is pure free will infringement and it's for sure that what the people receive will never be "their programming".

I am sorry if you felt this was a positive material, but as I see that you express that:

both sides seems to me STS

You may be preserving the required cautiousness.

Good luck

 

[panoptix]

I am sorry if you felt this was a positive material, but as I see that you express that: ...

I've never said it is a possitive material, did I? Notwithstanding, it's a very interesting thing to ponder: Both of them.

You may be preserving the required cautiousness.

Good luck

I truly hope so! The same cautiousness and discernment that we should keep with all messages from any source.

 

[palestine]

I've never said it is a possitive material, did I?

You are right - I said

I am sorry if you felt this was a positive material

How can I know? It could be

But overall, from my experience, the strategy would be not to spend too much time when the material is too "low". But in any way, thanks for the presentation, I never heard of those two groups (unless?). I don't know how you made it to dig up such thing!

I met a lady, one day, and she told me she was in some spiritual/chanelling activities, and the she regularly made the trip to England, or Ireland, where those were having "classes". The material you hint at reminded me of it.

 

[panoptix]

But overall, from my experience, the strategy would be not to spend too much time when the material is too "low". But in any way, thanks for the presentation, I never heard of those two groups (unless?). I don't know how you made it to dig up such thing!

Let me quote the C's when they said:

4th Nov, 1995
A: Assume, and you make an ass out of u and me!

And if it is not enough, there is a human said: “If you drop a gold coin in mud, it does not lose its value” (Matshona Dhliwayo).

Remember there are a lot of sources available, some channeled, others “inspired” but a few “transpired.” Of course there are several with higher bias —like the Bible— but that does not make them disposable and not eligible for further study: Sometimes, you might stumble upon something valuable.

BTW, I analyze a lot a channeled material and I found Hilarion/Cooke, WiH/Griffith the same way I stumbled upon with Ra or C's stuff: searching constant “for greener pastures.” In the former case I was reading Channeling from Jon Klimo, a book quoted in another serious work about the dangers of mediumship: The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts from Joseph Fisher (which is recommended in the forum, and you may find it in Spanish also: El canto de sirena de los fantasmas hambrientos).

I met a lady, one day, and she told me she was in some spiritual/chanelling activities, and the she regularly made the trip to England, or Ireland, where those were having "classes". The material you hint at reminded me of it.

Give me a break ! And your sentence reminded me of “hominem unius libri timeo.” Remember what Pierre Dujols (one of the members of the “Fulcanellis”) said: “Juvat integros accedere fontes.”

 

[palestine]

Let me quote the C's when they said:



And if it is not enough, there is a human said: “If you drop a gold coin in mud, it does not lose its value” (Matshona Dhliwayo).

Remember there are a lot of sources available, some channeled, others “inspired” but a few “transpired.” Of course there are several with higher bias —like the Bible— but that does not make them disposable and not eligible for further study: Sometimes, you might stumble upon something valuable.

BTW, I analyze a lot a channeled material and I found Hilarion/Cooke, WiH/Griffith the same way I stumbled upon with Ra or C's stuff: searching constant “for greener pastures.” In the former case I was reading Channeling from Jon Klimo, a book quoted in another serious work about the dangers of mediumship: The Siren Call of Hungry Ghosts from Joseph Fisher (which is recommended in the forum, and you may find it in Spanish also: El canto de sirena de los fantasmas hambrientos).



Give me a break ! And your sentence reminded me of “hominem unius libri timeo.” Remember what Pierre Dujols (one of the members of the “Fulcanellis”) said: “Juvat integros accedere fontes.”

Oh I was trying to be considerate in the face of somebody stating "Both works explain Fourth Density with extremely remarkably similarities" in regard of something which appears to be pure useless, time-consuming, & energy-draining material.

I don't appreciate the form of mocking that you do, as I remained courteous.

 

[panoptix]

Oh I was trying to be considerate in the face of somebody stating "Both works explain Fourth Density with extremely remarkably similarities" in regard of something which appears to be pure useless, time-consuming, & energy-draining material.

I think what is pure useless is our interchange. Sorry.

I don't appreciate the form of mocking that you do, as I remained courteous.

Subjective.

 

[palestine]

Let me tell you then, fare well and may what's right prevail