Meaning of life?

I've pondered about it, mostly when I am in some sort of emotional turmoil, what is the purpose?
Others have touched on this point too. Captain obvious says that there is a (big) difference between meaning and purpose. Confusing those two adds to the confusion.

They can both be quite subjective and individual but they have quite different answers. And they can both be hard to find and easy to be fooled about through self deception and wishful thinking, among many other pitfalls.

An often unexamined bedrock assumption is that life MUST have meaning, or what’s the point? And that our lives won’t/can’t have meaning until we discover our true purpose. Almost sounds like a catch 22.

And embedded in those thoughts is the idea that the great divine creator finds each one of us so important that we have been gifted with special talents to suit a grand purpose. And if we fulfill that purpose our life will have meaning. Then again, purpose, if you can discover it, also requires real doing, which is hard to do.

This sounds all a lot like Gurdjieff’s magician and his sheep. IOW a program to keep the sheep occupied until the skins are required. (Whatever exactly that means)

I think real meaning and/or purpose is self-created and has to be self-generated. It’s an ongoing process. I think we are engineered to want a quick answer.

What if we are single brush strokes on the big fresco. And God is a pointillist, so it’s not all that much of a brush stroke and it turns out it’s raw sienna, kind of a meh color. Or whatever. Life isn’t just religion, it’s also art. And it seems when you are a flick of the artists brush on the canvas, it is hard, if not impossible, to see the big picture from a distance.

Gurdjieff talked about debts. What if the purpose of life is to pay back what you owe, and nothing more?

What would that mean to your soul?

End of ramble.
 
give. :) The thing is, I don't know the limit and the balance between ME and OTHERS. I'm not sure we're all on the same page about balancing ourselves and the WE. :)

That's why I feel kinda lost...

I do invest myself in MYSELF, I do invest myself in OURSELVES (in my family context, etc), but I don't know how much I should invest in others versus myself. :)
Have you looked into people pleasing and Not Nice! (Book) I think with more life experience one finds balance. Remember reality, society our body and the construct of 3D requires a lot from us and you said family so other people need your energy time attention.

Do you exercise, play music have hobbies … giving yourself too much to others I believe is a form of masocism and a feeling to be validated…

The balance comes from work on thy self as you gain more experience in this reality, explore your programs and clean out your machine balance is you…its doesn’t work by saying just enough or giving just enough it’s about the thing “you” giving if the source is balance then most things the source emits is balance you need to possess the raw material in you

O and the meaning of life is to “grow up” to achieve higher quality in conciousness over and over again…for what or if there’s a next stage or end game… I haven’t got that far
 
Hi guys

I was just wondering whether anyone else here struggles with the daily grind of life? I mean in terms of whether life for human beings has any meaning? The C's information (as I understand it) basically categorises us as a 3rd density farm yard animal - for the harvesting by superior alien beings, for the experimenting on, etc and this makes it hard for me to see a greater meaning to our existence.

Obviously there is undeniable beauty in this planet and I certainly don't discount it but as someone who has always yearned for a deeper meaning - or reason - for us being here, I find it increasingly difficult to ascribe a purpose to our existence.

Does anyone else struggle with this? And can anyone suggest ways in which to put this in some kind of manageable perspective?

Thank you, as always,
Owen.

The answer to your question about the meaning of life is "I am who I am". This philosophical saying does not only refer to God but to all creation. The Cassiopaeans mentioned it and you all missed it. In one of the sessions there was a question about the purpose of existence and the Cassiopaeans answered that existence has no purpose. That is, life exists by itself and does not strive for anything. The opposite of existence is nothingness or a black hole. STS beings rebelled against existence and strive to destroy themselves. That is, they commit ultimate suicide. The opposite is with STO beings who desire to exist even though their existence has no purpose. They exist because they exist or "I am who I am". The problem with us in 3D is that we think linearly, that is, there must be a beginning and an end. The end of something would mean a set goal to strive for. There is no goal because there is no end. Just imagine a circle and not a straight line. The Cassiopaeans also mentioned this.
 
The opposite of existence is nothingness or a black hole. STS beings rebelled against existence and strive to destroy themselves. That is, they commit ultimate suicide. The opposite is with STO beings who desire to exist even though their existence has no purpose
I don't think that either STS or STO people would agree with what you say.

In fact, the last thing on the mind of an autentic STS person is suicide.

David Rockefeller received his sixth heart transplant at age 99.

And about STO existence has no purpose...

You can believe what you want.
 
There was a similar question asking the purpose of life in Session 11 August 2018 :

Q: (Ark) What is the purpose of life?

A: Learning by organizing information bits. Expanded being.

Q: (Ark) What is the purpose of learning?

(L) Expanded being. I think that's why they added that.

(Joe) So it's a fundamental dynamic of all reality: to expand.
STO expands and STS contracts. STS might try to expand literally in our world, but it seems like it just spreads and multiplies darkness.
 
The opposite is with STO beings who desire to exist even though their existence has no purpose. They exist because they exist or "I am who I am".

That sounds more of a new age premise than one derived from the C's or the research here. The C's say repeatedly that all that exists is lessons. I also think the greater our lessons the more responsibility we tend to have. There seems quite a lot of purpose in that.
 
That sounds more of a new age premise than one derived from the C's or the research here. The C's say repeatedly that all that exists is lessons. I also think the greater our lessons the more responsibility we tend to have. There seems quite a lot of purpose in that.

Yeah, and spiritual questions can get way too abstract sometimes. It makes sense to ground them in reality. Like I was listening to JP on this just recently, and he says that if you have a newborn child, and someone comes up to you and says, "Ah, but life has no purpose," the correct response is to basically ignore them - they're not a serious person. God or meaning or purpose is in every tiny thing, and every moment is super-saturated with opportunities to explore, care, and learn.
 
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