Melting road at Yellowstone
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stardust
Jedi Master
Re: Melting road at yellow Stone
And here a comparison for the activity of Firehole Lake in 2005 and today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZR7p5kVzo
and here something strange with the Rangers aggressive with tourists ( but I don't really know the date of this event). Tourists were confined at their hotel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwKfRosmDyU
And here a comparison for the activity of Firehole Lake in 2005 and today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWZR7p5kVzo
and here something strange with the Rangers aggressive with tourists ( but I don't really know the date of this event). Tourists were confined at their hotel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwKfRosmDyU
Ronnie
Jedi
Re: Melting road at yellow Stone
Here ya go......It's ALWAYS listed right underneath the video!
Published on Oct 9, 2013
October 9th, 2013 - Yellowstone - A group of tourists were harrassed and confined to the Old Faithful Inn located inside Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming. Park Rangers threatened arrests to anyone found near the famous adjacent geyser.
Here ya go......It's ALWAYS listed right underneath the video!
Published on Oct 9, 2013
October 9th, 2013 - Yellowstone - A group of tourists were harrassed and confined to the Old Faithful Inn located inside Yellowstone National Park in Wyoming. Park Rangers threatened arrests to anyone found near the famous adjacent geyser.
Ronnie
Jedi
Re: Melting road at yellow Stone
From the Picture... and the tree in the back ground that piece of road has been brought up to a certain "grade" it could be 6ft to 10ft ... putting it that much further from the earths crust. That looks like a bad overlay. A grinder will come and grind that off and new asphalt will be rolled out.
No worries Really... Some other reason for the road being closed....
Heimdallr said:
From the Picture... and the tree in the back ground that piece of road has been brought up to a certain "grade" it could be 6ft to 10ft ... putting it that much further from the earths crust. That looks like a bad overlay. A grinder will come and grind that off and new asphalt will be rolled out.
No worries Really... Some other reason for the road being closed....
Does he give a source?
Ronnie
Jedi
Very dramatic pictures Anthony.... But, Not of a Road.
The weight of a loaded 10 yard dump is approx. 30 tons, a belly dump twice that. Not forgetting the grinder and roller... And the Road Workers! All out there working "ON" a "Bowl of Soup"! If that is the case why repair it? why not just let is go? Sorry to say they got a bad batch. It's a do over..
The temperature of the mix on the base after it has passed through the laydown machine – not the mix or manufacturing temperature -- is the most important factor in determining the available time for compaction.
On paving and overlay projects, if the hot mix asphalt pavement cools too quickly, the entire surface will ravel leaving a rough, rocky surface in a short period of time.
The temperature of the mix on the base after it has passed through the laydown machine – not the mix or manufacturing temperature -- is the most important factor in determining the available time for compaction.
Ambient (air) temperatures, base (aggregate and existing asphalt) temperatures, and hot mixed asphalt temperatures are very critical to obtaining compaction and longevity of the newly paved surfaces and patches.
Hot mixed asphalt is manufactured at temperatures between 270°F and 325°F. Depending on the environmental conditions and the distance from the hot mix plant to the project, hot mix asphalt can lose between 5°F and 25°F.
The temperature of the mix on the base after it has passed through the laydown machine – not the mix or manufacturing temperature – is the most important factor in determining the available time for compaction. Hot mix asphalt pavement arrives at a project at temperatures between 275°F and 300°F and is installed on the existing base by mechanical methods (laydown machines).
If the air and base temperatures are colder than required or specified, then the asphalt pavement will cool too fast, causing it to set up and making it very difficult to obtain the required or specified compacted density.
Thin pavement layers will cool quicker than thicker layers, and should the base or ambient temperature be low, the hot mix asphalt will cool quicker, density won’t be achieved, and the patch will ravel and fall apart. On paving and overlay projects, if the hot mix asphalt pavement cools too quickly, the entire surface will ravel leaving a rough, rocky surface in a short period of time. This not only results in a poor surface, it results in a surface that will retain water, reducing the life of the pavement or the patch by accelerating the raveling process. It is very important to monitor all temperatures (ambient, base, and hot mix asphalt) and wind velocity during the paving process.
So again, No Worries...It's a Slow New Day for this mindless drivel to be aired by RT especially
The weight of a loaded 10 yard dump is approx. 30 tons, a belly dump twice that. Not forgetting the grinder and roller... And the Road Workers! All out there working "ON" a "Bowl of Soup"! If that is the case why repair it? why not just let is go? Sorry to say they got a bad batch. It's a do over..
The temperature of the mix on the base after it has passed through the laydown machine – not the mix or manufacturing temperature -- is the most important factor in determining the available time for compaction.
On paving and overlay projects, if the hot mix asphalt pavement cools too quickly, the entire surface will ravel leaving a rough, rocky surface in a short period of time.
The temperature of the mix on the base after it has passed through the laydown machine – not the mix or manufacturing temperature -- is the most important factor in determining the available time for compaction.
Ambient (air) temperatures, base (aggregate and existing asphalt) temperatures, and hot mixed asphalt temperatures are very critical to obtaining compaction and longevity of the newly paved surfaces and patches.
Hot mixed asphalt is manufactured at temperatures between 270°F and 325°F. Depending on the environmental conditions and the distance from the hot mix plant to the project, hot mix asphalt can lose between 5°F and 25°F.
The temperature of the mix on the base after it has passed through the laydown machine – not the mix or manufacturing temperature – is the most important factor in determining the available time for compaction. Hot mix asphalt pavement arrives at a project at temperatures between 275°F and 300°F and is installed on the existing base by mechanical methods (laydown machines).
If the air and base temperatures are colder than required or specified, then the asphalt pavement will cool too fast, causing it to set up and making it very difficult to obtain the required or specified compacted density.
Thin pavement layers will cool quicker than thicker layers, and should the base or ambient temperature be low, the hot mix asphalt will cool quicker, density won’t be achieved, and the patch will ravel and fall apart. On paving and overlay projects, if the hot mix asphalt pavement cools too quickly, the entire surface will ravel leaving a rough, rocky surface in a short period of time. This not only results in a poor surface, it results in a surface that will retain water, reducing the life of the pavement or the patch by accelerating the raveling process. It is very important to monitor all temperatures (ambient, base, and hot mix asphalt) and wind velocity during the paving process.
So again, No Worries...It's a Slow New Day for this mindless drivel to be aired by RT especially
stardust said:
I was wondering if this was going to come up. Here is what happened. These roads were getting rough and bumpy from years of use and abuse from overly large buses and rv's. Also the alternating hot and freezing temps play havoc with Yellowstone roads. Last year the Park Service decided to ban these large vehicles from this small loop road, but it was too late. The damage had been done.
This summer, in the hottest part of the year, the Park Service decided to try to smooth the roads by filling in the low spots with very thin tar. The road was never closed and the tar was not allowed to harden. Visitors were driving over soft wet tar and throwing it up on their car and spreading it everywhere. This is a very popular area for geyser watchers and the Park Service may have been trying to shortcut the process and keep the road open.
Now they are doing what they should have done to begin with. They closed the road and are trying to do it right.
This situation has nothing to do with the park heating up and everything to do with the Park Service being irresponsible (which is nothing new in Yellowstone) and refusing to take responsibility for its incompetence.
bltay said:
It certainly could come down to incompetence, partially or wholly.
What are your sources for this angle on it? So far we have two Yellowstone spokespersons describing this melting episode as "unusual".
It's currently reaching the mid-60s in the daytime there, so I don't think it being the "hottest part of the year" has anything to do with it.
Re: Melting road at yellow Stone
Hi stardust,
This was from the time of the government shut down last fall that included closing the national parks. Some people were in the park at the time of their closing, and the park officials were very aggressive and sometimes way overzealous in trying to keep those people from seeing anything in the park.
stardust said:
Hi stardust,
This was from the time of the government shut down last fall that included closing the national parks. Some people were in the park at the time of their closing, and the park officials were very aggressive and sometimes way overzealous in trying to keep those people from seeing anything in the park.
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