Memories, disturbing memories!

EGVG

Dagobah Resident
Hi, I wanted to share with you all some memories that I have, and recently had come to surface.

I've been dealing with body image issues since I was very very little, I was an overweight kid, then an overweight teen and then I dropped 30 pounds when I turned 15 or so, just by eating healtier. After loosing the weight I became very self conscious of how I looked, and also It matched the time I was discovering my sexuality or recognizing it, all came at once. I was figting depression alone, no one knew about the struggles I had, I was bulimic and anorexic, I also used to cut my arms, not deeply but superficial cuts that where very painfull.

I had a pro-anorexia/pro-bulimia blog and had bunch of "friends" with whom I could talk to and explain my suffering. I used to write in this blog and exposed my daily struggle with eating properly. Also I used to post about recovery, healthfull foods and exercising! It was my way of helping others that where bulimia wannabees, yeah you read well, bulimia and anorexia wannabees. I feelted very bad about this blog and during my active time, I use to fell like my blog was the healthiest of all, i was lying to myself of course,none of those blogs are healthy or promote a healthy life style.

So, it took me some years of therapy to get better, my mom is a psychotherapist so I had access to the best ones here. I went to a Psychologist, them to a psychoanalyst, them to a esoteric therapist that introduced me to a lot of esoteric disinfo stuff, and finally I went to a shrink.

I had a lot of therapy and I healed a lot, a lot, I stoped with the bulimia blogs and I also stoped the unhealthy life style of eating aspartame as if it was my only allowed "food", also I grew up, so I started to get a more objective view of my life and develop this imemse feeling of just wanting be better, to be ok.

And know I'm much much MUCH better, I feel like some of my demons just flushed away, but with that, new ones arrived. Now that I'm not sick, I have gained a lot of weight, more that 30 pounds, like 40! So this experience tells me that no matter what you do, you always are going to have to be carefull and feed your body and spirit well. (I'm on it)

Other memorie that was the first that came to mind this afternoon was, that when I was is school I was really excited about plastic surgery, I just wanted a perfect face a perfect body and I wanted all done, nose job, jawline joob, lipo, tummy tuck and more and more stuff that no normal teen needs. In fact the first time I contacted Laura on Facebook I ask her about plastic surgery, and she point me to this forum, wich have been a blessing. This network has help me more that years of expensive therapy and horrible medications! Thank you Laura for pointing me to this site, it has changed my life for the better, no doubt of it.

OK so back to the matter, I wanted all this plastic surgery done on me, and at night I used to pray for aliens to come to abduct me and performed plastic surgery on me, this was a constat on my mind, and at this point I didn't knew anything about the alien abduction phenomena or any of those things, I just like science fiction movies and games. But today when I remembered what I was hoping and praying for, for nights after nights, I became disturbed by that thought. So I came and started to writhe this, I not sure where to post this, here or in the swamp... Anyways I hope the aliens didn't heard my prayers.

So I was on that state of mind for about 4 years, I was really shallow and selfabsorbed, until I saw that my life had been nothing more that unfulfilled dreams, dreams of plastic surgery, alien abduction, and self imposed starvation, that had been my adolescence, and of course mixed with regular teenage problems like alcohol and drugs, bad grades, but nothing out of the ordinary, those things I knew how to manage and I did.
I was very fortunate to be on a school that helped their students in every aspect of their education, cognitively or emotionally. So I had the tools and knowledge to overcome problems like drugs, alcohol and expected problems one goes, but the knowledge I was missing was that of witch I'm know getting!

So finally I'm glad that I can write this and look back at the past and how I was destroying myself, and killing my future, I really hope this post helps others to look back and remember how clueless some of us where. Before getting to this site.
Sorry for wierd spelling mistakes!! :halo:

EDU
 
EGVG said:
OK so back to the matter, I wanted all this plastic surgery done on me, and at night I used to pray for aliens to come to abduct me and performed plastic surgery on me, this was a constat on my mind, and at this point I didn't knew anything about the alien abduction phenomena or any of those things, I just like science fiction movies and games. But today when I remembered what I was hoping and praying for, for nights after nights, I became disturbed by that thought. So I came and started to writhe this, I not sure where to post this, here or in the swamp... Anyways I hope the aliens didn't heard my prayers.

So I was on that state of mind for about 4 years, I was really shallow and selfabsorbed, until I saw that my life had been nothing more that unfulfilled dreams, dreams of plastic surgery, alien abduction, and self imposed starvation, that had been my adolescence, and of course mixed with regular teenage problems like alcohol and drugs, bad grades, but nothing out of the ordinary, those things I knew how to manage and I did.
I was very fortunate to be on a school that helped their students in every aspect of their education, cognitively or emotionally. So I had the tools and knowledge to overcome problems like drugs, alcohol and expected problems one goes, but the knowledge I was missing was that of witch I'm know getting!

So finally I'm glad that I can write this and look back at the past and how I was destroying myself, and killing my future, I really hope this post helps others to look back and remember how clueless some of us where. Before getting to this site.
Sorry for wierd spelling mistakes!! :halo:

EDU

It's good to hear the progress you've made, EGVG! It sounds like you're getting some perspective on your past and the changes show. I'm curious, how closely have you been following the diet? If you've gained some weight, it may mean you're approaching the weight that's healthiest for your body. Or maybe there are still some things you're taking in that aren't good?
 
I'm still eating some bad fats... french fries and chocolate cake are good when one is down, I'm trying to change it for dark chocolate, also I'm having difficulties with cheese I love cheese!! :( But its super bad for me, my doctor has forbidden it for me, so it will go.

Slowly but shuerly I'm loosing the weight and feeling better and better every day! :D :D

Oh, I want to remarc that I gained weight before I committed myself to eating healthier, and just after stopping to take antidepressants and anxiolytics which totally screwed my body and mind.

EDU
 
EGVG said:
I'm still eating some bad fats... french fries and chocolate cake are good when one is down, I'm trying to change it for dark chocolate, also I'm having difficulties with cheese I love cheese!! :( But its super bad for me, my doctor has forbidden it for me, so it will go.

Slowly but shuerly I'm loosing the weight and feeling better and better every day! :D :D

I think that if you really commit to not eating dairy, gluten or sugar for a period, you'll be amazed at the results. It's actually not that hard once you start! Cheese, french fries and chocolate cake are poison, essentially. They may taste good, but they're just plain not good for you. However, there ARE alternatives. First of all, there are sweet potato fries, which you can make yourself and taste delicious, and if your cravings for sweet things pop up, Laura has some great, healthy recipes for cakes and pies (on the forum and in the DCM).
 
Approaching Infinity said:
EGVG said:
I'm still eating some bad fats... french fries and chocolate cake are good when one is down, I'm trying to change it for dark chocolate, also I'm having difficulties with cheese I love cheese!! :( But its super bad for me, my doctor has forbidden it for me, so it will go.

Slowly but shuerly I'm loosing the weight and feeling better and better every day! :D :D

I think that if you really commit to not eating dairy, gluten or sugar for a period, you'll be amazed at the results. It's actually not that hard once you start! Cheese, french fries and chocolate cake are poison, essentially. They may taste good, but they're just plain not good for you. However, there ARE alternatives. First of all, there are sweet potato fries, which you can make yourself and taste delicious, and if your cravings for sweet things pop up, Laura has some great, healthy recipes for cakes and pies (on the forum and in the DCM).

Seriously! EGVG, you should give some of those recipes a shot. In Dot Connector #10, there's a recipe for a gluten, dairy free carrot cake, it's delicious! It smelled so good I wanted to eat it when it was doughy before putting it in the oven. :whistle:
 
DanielS said:
Approaching Infinity said:
EGVG said:
I'm still eating some bad fats... french fries and chocolate cake are good when one is down, I'm trying to change it for dark chocolate, also I'm having difficulties with cheese I love cheese!! :( But its super bad for me, my doctor has forbidden it for me, so it will go.

Slowly but shuerly I'm loosing the weight and feeling better and better every day! :D :D

I think that if you really commit to not eating dairy, gluten or sugar for a period, you'll be amazed at the results. It's actually not that hard once you start! Cheese, french fries and chocolate cake are poison, essentially. They may taste good, but they're just plain not good for you. However, there ARE alternatives. First of all, there are sweet potato fries, which you can make yourself and taste delicious, and if your cravings for sweet things pop up, Laura has some great, healthy recipes for cakes and pies (on the forum and in the DCM).

Seriously! EGVG, you should give some of those recipes a shot. In Dot Connector #10, there's a recipe for a gluten, dairy free carrot cake, it's delicious! It smelled so good I wanted to eat it when it was doughy before putting it in the oven. :whistle:

I have tried some recipes from here and they where amazing, the hard thing for me is that I don't know where to find buckwheat flour!! :( I used sweet potato flour insted, for the pancake recipe for example, delicious.
My problem are cravings, especially when feeling down or restlees, but now that I'm doing EE daily and exercising I'm getting less and less craving and more and more energy, I just cleaned the dishes for everyone here!! And I'm still energized, its amazing to fell so much better after just a few days of eating midfully doing EE and exercising, I feel changes every day.

Thanks for the suggestions ;), how are you doing with your diets????? :)

EDU
 
Now that I'm not sick, I have gained a lot of weight, more that 30 pounds, like 40! So this experience tells me that no matter what you do, you always are going to have to be carefull and feed your body and spirit well. (I'm on it)

Slowly but shuerly I'm loosing the weight and feeling better and better every day! :D :D


EGVG, I just want to caution you here against equating lower weight with better shape and health. I am very glad that you have overcome your anorexia and bulimia, but this is one of the ways those distortions may sneak up on you via the back door of your psyche.

Weight loss or gain of 30lb has no absolute meaning without the context of your height, starting weight and body type. Being 30lb heavier may actually be healthier for you, if you were a tall and lean, or underweight, person to begin with. It also matters what kind of weight it is. 30lb of extra muscle mass may be quite a desirable thing, and you do need some "fat weight" as well, if only to hold your organs properly within your abdominal cavity, and keep your liver function going (losing weight too fast may lead to gallstones).

We follow dietary recommendations not to lose weight, but to feel good and be healthy. If weight loss follows naturally, that's great and that's what your body needs. It just helps to keep the cause and effect, the real goal and a side effect, in perspective IMO.

Congratulations on your achievement, and wishing you continued success in Working on yourself!
 
wow EGVG that is a lot to share, my sense of it anyways. The obsession with plastic surgery that you described, my impression is that it sounds horrible. I'm happy thats in the past. I was going to say 'everyone' but how about, a lot of people, struggle with body image right? I have this too… has to do with I self importance / self-conconciousness. It seems to have hit you pretty hard. being overweight then loosing weight. I find it interesting… counterintuitive how loosing weight brought on this stuff. I guess it can make sense.

For me personally, I think of "retrospection" as part of the work. Casteneda or Don Juan called it "recapitulation". I don't think I have really fit the pieces together. but when i reflect back on certain instances (ones that carry a weight especially) I can see myself grasping at something--a more objective view. Who I am.

I think you should realize most "chocolate cake" is just gross. To me anyways. I ate half a slice of bread today… it was a battle. I was talking to someone and holding the bread and it just got to me…

you have to come to in on your own terms though. the diet. I researched gluten for 30 minutes today when I debated about the bread, and am still unsure…

that sounds so stupid to me, like a confession of an anorexic. O well. I ate lots of meat today.

your title "disturbing memories" I automaticaly I relate to this. the memories which we try to forget, these are ones to remember I think. good for you.

I agree with Aproaching Infinitity. A good strategy can be to replace foods. especially because from what you wrote, it sounded to me like you eat (the bad foods) for the emotional comfort. these people have some sort of name. sweet potato fries are good. the potato just baked it good too, but if you cut it up into fries then each one gets a nice crust. Of course you can salt them as well. not sure about a cake alternative.

I read this part of a C's session today. I know your not asking for diet advice directly but that seems to be the trend of the discussion.

Q: (L) So if your health is compromised, it makes it more difficult for you to achieve any kind of awareness or spiritual growth. Is that it?

A: Yes. Hasn't that always been the case?

Q: (L) So you're saying that health issues, destroying people's health - like even the introduction of wheat and other things that are not conducive to good health - are ways of preventing awareness and spiritual growth?

A: Yes. A long and carefully thought out plan of 4D STS.
 
EGVG, I just want to caution you here against equating lower weight with better shape and health. I am very glad that you have overcome your anorexia and bulimia, but this is one of the ways those distortions may sneak up on you via the back door of your psyche.

Hildegarda , your totally right, I still have some distortions and I do sometimes fell that being healthy is being skinny, which is totally false. In my case I do have to lose some weight and gain muscle, I gained 40 pounds of toxic fat, so I need to get rid of it!! :)

Hi wetroof , it is a lot to share, but trust me this is just the basic stuff I didn't get into the deep deep hardcore things.
Thanks for pointing out that session piece, it was eye opening, I'm sure plenty of 4 density STS beings are gonna be furious when we stop fedding our bodies with poison.


EDU
 
Hi EGVG, I also think you have made a huge progress!

About cravings, I can share my experience. I've gone gluten free months ago for health reasons, and I'm gradually going sugar and dairy free, and realized how addictive those foods are. Being gluten free made me feel better almost instantly, and discovered I don't crave foods as much as I used to, and have the feeling this will improve when I'll fianlly get rid of dairy and sugar. I'm also losing weight naturally, found out just this morning that my old pants are fitting again :cool:
 
skycsil said:
Hi EGVG, I also think you have made a huge progress!

About cravings, I can share my experience. I've gone gluten free months ago for health reasons, and I'm gradually going sugar and dairy free, and realized how addictive those foods are. Being gluten free made me feel better almost instantly, and discovered I don't crave foods as much as I used to, and have the feeling this will improve when I'll fianlly get rid of dairy and sugar. I'm also losing weight naturally, found out just this morning that my old pants are fitting again :cool:

Hi, thank you! Sugar + Dairy + Gluten, are the most addictive foods! They are like Meth or Heroin, seriously I'm really fighting to stop with the bad foods, yesterday at night I drank some yogurt and ate a little piece of almond chocolate and today I'm feeling really sick, I woke up with a horrible pain in my stomach, it was really bad. So I haven't been able to eat because my tummy feels to irritated or something.
I'm really happy to see that your old pants are fitting again!!! That's amazing!! I've been using only cotton loose pants because my clothes won't fit, can't wait until I get there naturally! :D I think the hardest part would be to change your life style, but it has to be done.


EDU
 
Sure it's difficult to start, but once you start feeling better and better you won't miss those nasty foods at all, believe me :)
 
skycsil said:
Sure it's difficult to start, but once you start feeling better and better you won't miss those nasty foods at all, believe me :)

And, as had been mentioned, there are all kinds of yummy recipes free of all that junk and you will enjoy knowing you are eating healthy. Check out the Recipes section for more ideas. :)


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Hi EGVG
Thanks for sharing, that took some courage.

You mention cravings, this is usually a sign of some sort of (body/brain/hormonal) imbalance.
Have you had a look at the UltraMind Solution Quizzes? The information in the Are You Getting Enough Sleep thread (specifically the quotes from the book), also has a lot to do with craving food. Another thread on reducing cravings here.

They may be of help. Changing your diet will reduce you're cravings as other have said, but sometimes you need to help reduce the cravings in order to change your diet. :)
 
Thanks for sharing EGVG.

I struggled A LOT with my weight and food (see this thread http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14338.0 )and still have a hard time accepting -- on more than an intellectual level -- that skinny isn't the end all be all of life.
It's so funny you used to think about aliens doing plastic surgery on you. Not funny, ha ha, but funny because I used to think of something similar. It just popped back up when I read your post. I read some sci-fi book about aliens connecting to people physically and altering their bodies to make them physical super specimens. I used to think, "wow that would be cool." :P


You're right. Some foods are like crack cocaine. But once you change your diet the cravings will ease away and you'll be able to be in a room with people eating junk and offering it to you and not only will you say "no, thank you" you really won't even want it. Read all you can on the diet and health forums. Back it up with books and research on your own. Once you know what these foods do to you you'll not want to betray your body with such poisons. Your body will thank you in big and small ways.
 
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