Men are just happier

[SoCurious]

Instead of searching for information to bolster your own opinion of yourself, can you at least stop for a moment and consider what's being said to you? You're not being picked on. This isn't personal. Those of us who have put ourselves out there by posting regularly have experienced the same thing from time to time. It's what we're here for - to learn about ourselves. This is hard Work as often we have to confront aspects of ourselves that we don't "like" and just as often don't even realize exists unless someone points it out to us. While quite scary at times, when we get through it, we are often the better for it.

What I'm saying to you is go deeper. What is it you feel right now in this situation?

One of the ways of a warrior is to never take things personally. Not always easy but I try.

I understand exactly what you're all saying and in the same light blasted my father for passing on anti-Muslim jokes he received as it perpetuates unfair stereotypes and is currently being used as a propaganda tool to soften the intellect in preparation for further war.

I find it equally distasteful when aspersions are cast upon any singular group of people that lead to distinctions made between them along the lines of "this is wrong" or "they're stupid".

But we also have to be able to discern between what is serious and what is silly. The post is about affectionate silliness and gives us ample reason to laugh at ourselves and celebrate our differences.

If we can't find humour in the mundane we'll never laugh, and if we never laugh we'll be serious all the time, and if we're serious all the time we'll be negative and being negative just makes us food.

Would it help if I tried to become pregnant?

 

[Sol Logos]

But Blonde Woman jokes are ok.

Instead of searching for information to bolster your own opinion of yourself, can you at least stop for a moment and consider what's being said to you? You're not being picked on. This isn't personal. Those of us who have put ourselves out there by posting regularly have experienced the same thing from time to time. It's what we're here for - to learn about ourselves. This is hard Work as often we have to confront aspects of ourselves that we don't "like" and just as often don't even realize exists unless someone points it out to us. While quite scary at times, when we get through it, we are often the better for it.

What I'm saying to you is go deeper. What is it you feel right now in this situation?

What truth seeker is saying makes a lot of sense.

I know it's hard Richard, really hard. It's like we identify ourselves with the castle we defend but we are not that castle. Its only when we let it unravel or better yet fall does it become much clearer. It might be tricky to see it in yourself, so perhaps check out a post and thread here:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26967.0.html

You might see a bit in how I approached that in you replies in this thread. I truly hope that helps.

 

[truth seeker]

Just a note that you sidestepped the question regarding your feelings. Having feelings doesn't make you weak, Richard. There is much strength in vulnerability. :)

One of the ways of a warrior is to never take things personally. Not always easy but I try.

Everyone tries to one extent or another but the fact that we're human usually means that at some point, we fall back. All perfectly normal.

I understand exactly what you're all saying and in the same light blasted my father for passing on anti-Muslim jokes he received as it perpetuates unfair stereotypes and is currently being used as a propaganda tool to soften the intellect in preparation for further war.

I find it equally distasteful when aspersions are cast upon any singular group of people that lead to distinctions made between them along the lines of "this is wrong" or "they're stupid".

But we also have to be able to discern between what is serious and what is silly. The post is about affectionate silliness and gives us ample reason to laugh at ourselves and celebrate our differences.

So it's "serious" when you father makes a joke and "silly" when you make it? Who gets to determine that? If your father were to use that reasoning on you with his jokes, how would that make you think/feel? If you have the right to find something distasteful, why can't others? It would seem that the difference for you lies in whether it's you who are telling the joke or not.

If we can't find humour in the mundane we'll never laugh, and if we never laugh we'll be serious all the time, and if we're serious all the time we'll be negative and being negative just makes us food.

You're falling into black/white thinking here. It's not that one can never find anything funny. The difference is how it affects others - how it makes them feel. Your father wasn't only being insensitive to Muslims, he was also being insensitive to you/your feelings. That way of thinking was probably passed down to him from his parents and so on. What that speaks to is a disconnect - a lack of ability to feel for not only others but himself. He couldn't put himself in others shoes and I suspect lacks/ed the ability to be aware of his own feelings. He is/was shut down and projected his contempt of himself towards others. When people interact with others in this manner, that is what they pick up on and respond to. So your fathers own attempts to fit in more than likely put off some people who may actually have been a beneficial force in his life. Quite the opposite result of what he was going for.

Would it help if I tried to become pregnant?

What would really help (others but mainly yourself) is by taking small steps in trying to see how others are more similar to you than you realize. Perhaps one place to start is by looking at the connections between how Muslims are viewed to how women are viewed. Also, if you've ever felt injustice in your own life, it may help to start becoming aware of how women may similarly feel.

 

[ana]

But we also have to be able to discern between what is serious and what is silly. The post is about affectionate silliness and gives us ample reason to laugh at ourselves and celebrate our differences.

If we can't find humour in the mundane we'll never laugh, and if we never laugh we'll be serious all the time, and if we're serious all the time we'll be negative and being negative just makes us food.

I guess each of us find humorous that which someway relate to our view of the subject in question, that is if we find truth in its roots we can then make a little witty drama to deal with it.

So if you find that others are not finding it humorous it may not be inherently related with them being unable to make use of humor but with humor being based on lies or low level perception of the reality of a situation or even offensive to good taste .

 

[Gimpy]

If we can't find humour in the mundane we'll never laugh, and if we never laugh we'll be serious all the time, and if we're serious all the time we'll be negative and being negative just makes us food.

is that why you continue to behave like a duck? Skimming the surface of meaning in an effort to show that you can swim here and not get wet?

That is not a warriors attitude. Its a subtle kind of mockery that psychopathy infects society with.

Would it help if I tried to become pregnant?

You all ready are. You are full to the brim with whatever you 'think' is clever, stuffed in your head by memes you can't even see.

Try turning off the TV and FB or whatever else electronic media you think you have to have or don't notice, and see what happens.

 

[Nienna]

Would it help if I tried to become pregnant?

What would really help YOU is to stop trying to defend your position and start to consider the feelings and input of others who can see you more clearly than you can see yourself.

I think that most of us here can see what is being silly, what is "affectionate humor" and what is not.

 

[truth seeker]

A couple of terms that you may be interested in reading up on, Richard:

Yes/but

warrior

 

[Laura]

Blonde jokes are okay because everybody knows that blondes are not dumb.

The majority of people on the planet, for millenia, have believed that women are inferior.

 

[1984]

Men Are Just Happier People --

Do you believe that men are happier than women?

You side stepped this question too.

 

[stellar]

The majority of people on the planet, for millenia, have believed that women are inferior.

And they still do. I live with a narcissist (for now) who would be rolling at this humour until he would look at me and find a stone cold look of 'what is so funny?' It's not funny because his actions often mimick the thoughts behind the creation of such 'humour'.

I, for one, am not amused.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

What I'm saying to you is go deeper. What is it you feel right now in this situation?

One of the ways of a warrior is to never take things personally. Not always easy but I try.

I understand exactly what you're all saying and in the same light blasted my father for passing on anti-Muslim jokes he received as it perpetuates unfair stereotypes and is currently being used as a propaganda tool to soften the intellect in preparation for further war.

I find it equally distasteful when aspersions are cast upon any singular group of people that lead to distinctions made between them along the lines of "this is wrong" or "they're stupid".

"Yes..."

But we also have to be able to discern between what is serious and what is silly. The post is about affectionate silliness and gives us ample reason to laugh at ourselves and celebrate our differences.

"...but."

If we can't find humour in the mundane we'll never laugh, and if we never laugh we'll be serious all the time, and if we're serious all the time we'll be negative and being negative just makes us food.

You're talking about apples, we're talking about oranges. No one is disputing the idea that humour can be good, and I don't think any of us are humourless. That's not even close to the issue here. Your "yes, but" amounts to something like this: "Yes, anti-Muslim jokes are mean, but hey, sometimes anti-women jokes are funny." You seem to be so rigidly stuck on your point of view here (right man?), that you've completely ignored the obvious. Say you tell an anti-Muslim joke, and a Muslim present expresses his offense. Conclusion? Maybe that joke was crass. So now, you've posted a lot of anti-women jokes in the presence of women (AND men), who have expressed their thoughts and feelings, and you've totally discounted them, essentially telling them to lighten up.

Being a male, I didn't find these jokes remotely funny, and I've got a sense of humour. There's a difference between finding humour in the mundane and finding humour in sexual inequality, insults about women's intelligence, women's emotional intelligence viewed as a strange quirk (talk about psychopathic), women as objects judged by their appearance, etc.

 

[1984]

Would it help if I tried to become pregnant?

What was the point of asking this? There is no logical reason to post such a question - it is just blatant sarcasm.

Still awaiting your answer to my previous question.

 

[EmeraldHope]

Would it help if I tried to become pregnant?

What was the point of asking this? There is no logical reason to post such a question - it is just blatant sarcasm.

Still awaiting your answer to my previous question.

You know, Richard, this remark reminds me of the fact that in humanity's past, around the same time that the goddess was being vilified, the usurping myths were telling stories of children being born from masturbating gods ( no woman needed) and ole Zeus had a child spring forth from his head totally unaided by a woman. Perhaps an examination of deeper subconscious programs may be in order here, as I find it interesting that this is the particular point that you latched on to with your sarcasm.

 

[SoCurious]

Do you believe that men are happier than women?

I did not answer that question because I didn't think you were being serious. How does one answer such a question? What would you base your opinion on? Jokes?

Although the WOMAN who wrote the jokes says about men "What do you expect from such simple creatures?", which is about the most denigrating aspect of the whole post. Men are simple, and by intimation, women are complex.

The WOMAN who wrote the piece is bemoaning the difficulty of being a woman in a humorous fashion and is inviting us to laugh with her. If she was telling this to your face would you laugh with her or tear a strip off her? I choose to laugh with her.

There is a massive difference in laughing with someone as opposed to laughing AT someone. The difference between this and the Muslim jokes doing the rounds is that we're laughing at them and not with them.

The WOMAN in question said to me. "Richard if you're ever going to understand women you'd better read this book". It's slow going as you'll understand by the pic attached.

 

[anart]

Richard, you're coming across as being completely incapable of actually looking at yourself and your own behavior. Can you see that - even just a little? I realize that asking that question after the demonstration you've given here of rigid self-referencing is a bit of a risk, but I have to ask.