Moon Landings: Did They Happen or Not?
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Indeed! That's something quite useful any conspiracy inclined person could and should do. One might get a better sense then how nuanced and truly difficult the assessment of any given topic can be and how much sweat and hard work is required to get a handle on complex topics and that there are hard-working scientists out there who have done a great job in it. It is also a good way to get out of the "conspiracy everywhere" mindset, which is quite harmful, especially for the person lost in it. So yes indeed, just grab a really complex and engaging work and not just read it but try to understand it. That should keep you busy for a while and engaged with something useful.
There are also books like JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters on the forum reading list, which is very well-researched, and devoid of groundless assumptions, and which can really deepen one's understanding of reality and history, especially today with the term "deep state" gaining more mainstream coverage.
What's the source and what is interesting about it?
An interesting conformation of the backside of the Moon, (and those inhabits), and other odds, and ends.
Apollo 10 Astronauts Encountered A Strange Radio Signal While On The Moon | NASA's Unexplained Files
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Apollo 10 Astronauts Encountered A Strange Radio Signal While On The Moon | NASA's Unexplained Files
Session 4 March 1995
March 4, 1995 Frank, Laura, Terry and Jan, SV Q: (T) Good evening. A: Luck. Q: (L) Is the luck with us at this time? A: Yes. Q: (L) Who do we have with us this evening? A: Not yet. Q: (L) The luck is not yet with us? A: Try not to second guess what we mean. Q: (L) What does...
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lilies
The Living Force
Pentagon - since reaching its operational stage in 1947 - must have been in overzealous ready-to-serve contact with space faring races. Charles Hall recounts strict diplomatic ties quickly established with the Tall Whites (who have been visiting Earth for hundreds if not thousands of years) and rules enforced on punishment of death for Navy service personnel. If you didn't follow orders, while working near the alien-housing areas in the three valleys of Indian Springs for example, you could die easily and the generals cared little. The very telling name of Creech Air Force Base - creech for the comics series about alien creatures - says everything. The secret-service agent, who interviewed Hall there for example was armed to the teeth and was apparently very afraid of the short-tempered aliens, who were trigger-happy to kill stupid humans.
I think all NASA spacecraft was specifically instructed what little they could do, while near the Moon. They must have been falling head over heels in not disturbing any alien operation and were keeping strictly to their business.
I can't imagine, why the Lizzies would allow China, Russia or the US to establish anything on the Moon, as it must be a strictly operated business area for the aliens. The recent Indian mission - how they inundated the media with their thousands and thousands of high-resolution photos from the Moon, yeah, they didn't at all - and how their miserable lander crashed, I think tells exactly how The Human Cattle is welcome on the premises on Alien Moonbase, which must have a strictly regulated Area-51-like area, accidentally encompassing all of Moon's surface.
I think all NASA spacecraft was specifically instructed what little they could do, while near the Moon. They must have been falling head over heels in not disturbing any alien operation and were keeping strictly to their business.
I can't imagine, why the Lizzies would allow China, Russia or the US to establish anything on the Moon, as it must be a strictly operated business area for the aliens. The recent Indian mission - how they inundated the media with their thousands and thousands of high-resolution photos from the Moon, yeah, they didn't at all - and how their miserable lander crashed, I think tells exactly how The Human Cattle is welcome on the premises on Alien Moonbase, which must have a strictly regulated Area-51-like area, accidentally encompassing all of Moon's surface.
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lilies, are you convinced that the stories of Charles Hall are reliable? What is your source?
I could imagine that if there is a cooperation between 4-D STS and major military powers on Earth, some of the earthlings might have limited access to the Moon if only to serve their overlords better.
Please clarify why you think the Indian moon lander crashed because of not being welcome on somebody's premises on the Moon while the Chinese lander didn't.
Good questions. Sounds pretty wild or rather outlandish to me. Might be worthwhile to put in the breaks with this kind of Alien conspiracy stuff lilies, and instead read some recently recommended books for example. I think this could be a far better investment in terms of time and energy.
Meager1
Dagobah Resident
Would it be unrealistic to think that there might have been some STS involvement in the going to the moon scenario. For instance, I still don’t really believe that the United States had the technology at that time to pull it off, but what would have prevented STS from providing the ride?
Why not cut some deal to pick up the astronauts, the craft, the whole Shebang, and bring them to 4D then drop them off in 2D or whatever level the moon is.
Any lift off we all watched could have just stayed in earth orbit without passengers and who would have known the difference.
I do believe that the technology to have pulled off something like that probably existed, so why wouldn’t they use it, if it was offered.
Anyway, just a thought.
Why not cut some deal to pick up the astronauts, the craft, the whole Shebang, and bring them to 4D then drop them off in 2D or whatever level the moon is.
Any lift off we all watched could have just stayed in earth orbit without passengers and who would have known the difference.
I do believe that the technology to have pulled off something like that probably existed, so why wouldn’t they use it, if it was offered.
Anyway, just a thought.
Wandering Star
The Living Force
The law of one - Book 5
Session 8, January 26, 1981
Questioner: There was a portion of the material from yesterday which I will read where you say “There is a certain amount of landing taking place. Some of these landings are of your own people; some are of the group known to you as Orion.” My first question is what did you mean that some of the landings are of your peoples?
Ra: I am Ra. Your peoples have, at this time/space present, the technological achievement, if you would call it that, of being able to create and fly the shape and type of craft known to you as unidentified flying objects. Unfortunately for the social memory complex vibratory rate of your peoples, these devices are not intended for the service of mankind, but for potential destructive use. This further muddles the vibratory nexus of your social memory complex, causing a situation where neither those oriented towards serving others nor those oriented towards serving self can gain the energy/power which opens the gates to intelligent infinity for the social memory complex. This in turn causes the harvest to be small.
Questioner: Are these craft that are from our peoples from what we call planes that are not incarnate at this time? Where are they based?
Ra: I am Ra. These of which we spoke are of third density and are part of the so-called military complex of various of your peoples’ societal divisions or structures.
The bases are varied. There are bases, as you would call them, undersea in your southern waters near the Bahamas as well as in your Pacific seas in various places close to your Chilean borders on the water. There are bases upon your moon, as you call this satellite, which are at this time being reworked. There are bases which move about your lands. There are bases, if you would call them that, in your skies. These are the bases of your peoples, very numerous and, as we have said, potentially destructive.
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Maybe something can be extrapolated ...?
@Meager1 ,
I suppose maybe the moon itself is 2D according to this session:
Session 4 March 1995:
Obviously we 3D guys don't inhabit the moon but do we use it? Not sure.
I don't think it is unrealistic at all.
Once we are given some technology (even 4D) I think we tend to use it or retro-engineer it. The Cs did not say we have not been to the moon when "back to the moon" was mentioned.
I know this thread is primarily about the moon landing but I think it is related to a larger general plan. This may take years to develop unless the Cosmos intervenes. It perhaps extends also to our probes to Mars.
Session 11 August 1996:
Wandering Star
The Living Force
Session 4 March 1995:
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Excerpt from the book "Die to be me", by Anita Moorjani:
A: I can only share what I have experienced. What I felt when I "died" was as if I woke up from a dream. I did not feel that I was going somewhere, but as if I woke up and had an omniperceptive sensory capacity, that is, a 360 degree vision and a total synesthesia, that is, that I perceived everything simultaneously. I could see, hear, feel and know everything that had to do with me and it was relevant to me! I lived my past, my present and my future simultaneously. I also knew what was happening beyond the walls and anywhere in space, as long as I had any relationship with me; hence I saw and heard the conversations of my doctors, my brother on a plane, etc.
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. I could see, hear, feel and know everything that had to do with me and it was relevant to me!
: (J) Huh? (L) What do you mean, invisible?
A: Only visible upon request. Variability of physicality.
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Excerpt from the book "Die to be me", by Anita Moorjani:
A: I can only share what I have experienced. What I felt when I "died" was as if I woke up from a dream. I did not feel that I was going somewhere, but as if I woke up and had an omniperceptive sensory capacity, that is, a 360 degree vision and a total synesthesia, that is, that I perceived everything simultaneously. I could see, hear, feel and know everything that had to do with me and it was relevant to me! I lived my past, my present and my future simultaneously. I also knew what was happening beyond the walls and anywhere in space, as long as I had any relationship with me; hence I saw and heard the conversations of my doctors, my brother on a plane, etc.
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. I could see, hear, feel and know everything that had to do with me and it was relevant to me!
: (J) Huh? (L) What do you mean, invisible?
A: Only visible upon request. Variability of physicality.
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Sadly I wasn't able to get the search function to find that particular session when the C's told Laura that the secret government were in possession of technologies "25,000 years ahead" of the Earth's mainstream civilization...
@Ursus Minor ,
You were very close.
The Wave Chapter 22: The Nexus Seven Meet the Cassiopaeans
Whether the Apollo moon landing was faked in it's public reporting or not may not be the most important aspect. Wondering why we have not gone back could be more important to think about.
@Pashalis has listed most of the moon references in the sessions already and I have repeated some but hopefully just emphasizing some spots that stood out to me will spark some more thought. Rather than focusing on a hoax or no hoax first landing this has me thinking about the possible long term goals of 4D STS and the other players we don't talk about so much like 4D STO, 6D STO roles in this great "experiment".
Apparently the moon may be reserved for 4D. Even if we landed there did we establish any 3D base there? I seems to me any base there is probably controlled by 4D.
Session 4 March 1995:
How much do different governments know about this 4D influence? What if they are all actually involved in a cover-up situation and even unwillingly?
Session 21 January 1995
January 21, 1995 Frank, Laura, Terry, Jan, S, D, Chuck {the guests, “D” and “Chuck” were problematic for a number of reasons. Chuck was a PI who had worked with me on an abduction case. He wasn’t really “into” the paranormal and asked to attend just out of curiosity. “D” is the woman who...
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