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And Israel was talking about it back in the 1980's!

Israel Shahak said:
The idea that all the Arab states should be broken down, by Israel, into small units, occurs again and again in Israeli strategic thinking. For example, Ze'ev Schiff, the military correspondent of Ha'aretz (and probably the most knowledgeable in Israel, on this topic) writes about the "best" that can happen for Israeli interests in Iraq: "The dissolution of Iraq into a Shi'ite state, a Sunni state and the separation of the Kurdish part" (Ha'aretz 6/2/1982). Actually, this aspect of the plan is very old.
This is from his forward to his translation of a Zionist text of that year: The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.

Here is Section 23 of that document:

23

Iraq, rich in oil on the one hand and internally torn on the other, is guaranteed as a candidate for Israel's targets. Its dissolution is even more important for us than that of Syria. Iraq is stronger than Syria. In the short run it is Iraqi power which constitutes the greatest threat to Israel. An Iraqi-Iranian war will tear Iraq apart and cause its downfall at home even before it is able to organize a struggle on a wide front against us. Every kind of inter-Arab confrontation will assist us in the short run and will shorten the way to the more important aim of breaking up Iraq into denominations as in Syria and in Lebanon. In Iraq, a division into provinces along ethnic/religious lines as in Syria during Ottoman times is possible. So, three (or more) states will exist around the three major cities: Basra, Baghdad and Mosul, and Shi'ite areas in the south will separate from the Sunni and Kurdish north. It is possible that the present Iranian-Iraqi confrontation will deepen this polarization.
 
Yes, that explains why Shiites in Sunni areas, and Sunnies in Shiite areas, receive the dreaded bullet with the message: "leave the area in 24 hours or you die". And the brutality is necessary so that they take the threat seriously. They are forcing the population into their 'corresponding' areas so that it will be easier to divide later.

I didn't know that the Council on Foreign Relations had proposed that as well. We should read their website more often; those guys seem to have a hot-line to the Consortium. They've also proposed a 'North American Union' (Canada, Mexico, US), and it certainly feels that's the way it will go. NAFTA is part of the preparation, and after 9-11 there's all this talk about 'regional security', etc.
 
This from Wayne Madsen:

Wayne Madsen said:
November 30, 2006 -- Was the use of polonium to kill Litvinenko a clue to the identity of the killer or killers?

There is increasing evidence that the radioactive poisoning assassination of ex-KGB and FSB agent and Kremlin critic Alexander Litvinenko was the result of a plot by anti-Vladimir Putin criminal syndicates based in Britain, Israel, Ukraine, and Poland to embarrass the Russian government.

Suspicions about the role of the exiled Russian-Israeli criminal syndicates in the poisoning of Litvinenko, including that headed by Litvinenko's friend, wanted oligarch Boris Berezovsky, re-surfaced after former Russian Prime Minister Yegor Gaidar became violently ill after eating breakfast at a conference he was attending in Dublin, Ireland. Ireland's banking secrecy laws has made it a favorite location for the Russian-Israeli Mafia.

Gaidar's sudden illness occurred a day after Litvinenko died in a London hospital from poisoning from polonium-210, a deadly radioactive isotope when ingested. Radioactive traces were later discovered at sites around London, including Berezovsky's offices in the West End.

Gaidar was moved from a Dublin hospital to a Moscow hospital where he received a telephone call from Putin wishing him a speedy recovery. Putin's Mafiosi critics in Britain, Israel, Moscow, and other countries have accused the Russian leader of poisoning Litvinenko and attempting to kill Gaidar.

However, Russian officials are claiming that the attacks were carried out by Putin's criminal opponents who want to create tension between Moscow and the West.

Their arguments appear to have merit when the choice of radioactive isotope used to kill Litvinenko is considered. Intelligence experts point out that polonium was discovered by Marie Curie (nee Maria Sklodowska) in 1897 and named after her native homeland Poland (Polonia in Latin) to express her support for Polish independence against its partition by Russia, Prussia and Austria.

Was someone allied to Russian-Israeli mob sending a message by killing Litvinenko with radioactive substance named in honor of Polish independence by native Polish nationalist Marie Curie?

Before Putin moved in to take over Yukos Oil from the Russian criminal syndicates, there were plans to build a Russian-German gas pipeline through Poland. After Poland was taken over by a neo-con team of identical twins Lech and Jaroslaw Kaczynski, who serve as President and Prime Minister, respectively, Poland not only began to conduct a witch hunt against ex-Communists but also became a base of operations for the anti-Putin Russian-Israeli exiled gangsters and oligarchs. Named as Defense Minister was former American Enterprise Institute resident scholar Radek Sikorski, who also happens to be married to Washington Post editorial board member and leading neo-con journalist Anne Applebaum, also a leading critic of Putin (along with a number of so-called "liberals," including Clinton ambassador to the UN Richard Holbrooke).

After Putin decided, along with former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, to bypass Poland and build the Russo-German pipeline under the Baltic Sea, Sikorski unleashed a barrage against Russia and Germany. He likened the pipeline deal to the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Agreement that carved up Eastern Europe, including Poland, between Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Sikorski asked German Chancellor Angela Merkel to cancel the pipeline deal but she refused.

We now know that Litvinenko was working on unspecified "energy issues" in London. We also know he has been described as a Russian-Israeli "double agent" and was reported to have transferred classified Russian documents in Yukos to a Russian-Israeli exiled oligarch in Tel Aviv. Double agents are always in danger from the party they are working against. Litvinenko's killers' use of polonium, named by Marie Curie in support of Polish independence, may mean that the assassins are more likely found in Warsaw's Russian-Israeli mob infested intelligence apparatus than in the Kremlin.
 
Here is Xymphora (http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/12/litvinenko-poisoning-puzzle.html) weighing in:

Xymphora said:
The Litvinenko poisoning puzzle
The answers to the Litvinenko poisoning puzzle are falling into place nicely, despite the efforts of the British police to muddy the waters:

All the people who met with Litvinenko on the day of his poisoning were associated with anti-Putin forces, and most, if not all, with wanted criminal fugitive Boris Berezovsky.
Mario Scaramella, the fellow who met with Litvinenko at the sushi restaurant (in fact, initiated the contact on what may have been a ruse, suggested the meeting, and picked the restaurant), didn't eat, but just watched Litvinenko eat. He has a dodgy resume, but claims to be an expert on nuclear materials.
The Russians have been trying to extradite Boris Berezovsky for years, without success. They have just signed a new agreement with the British which may make extradition requests procedurally easier, something which may have made the oligarchs nervous. Extradition was always technically possible, but was rejected by British courts on the basis that defendants would not get a fair trial in Russia. Suddenly, a wrench is thrown into the works of British-Russian relations. A nuclear attack on British soil! Extradition to Russia suddenly becomes much more difficult.
Polonium was detected at the offices of Boris Berezovsky, and at the offices of Erinys, one of the mercenary companies used by the Bush Administration in Iraq. The connection is that Neil Bush is a business partner of Boris Berezovsky. Now the FBI is involved, so the cover-up is getting serious!
After finding traces of polonium at places where they shouldn't have looked, the police confused the issue by searching planes, and basically determined that planes flying all over Europe had had this stuff on board. Therefore, they proved nothing, and unnecessarily alarmed the British public.
Litvinenko had been making wild allegations about Putin for years, and was ignored as another crank. Boris Berezovsky was actively looking for another writer to pen another book of anti-Putin slurs. Such a book will certainly sell now! As I've already said, Putin had no reason to care about this guy, and certainly no reason to kill him in a way to give any credibility to his allegations. The entire PR campaign, including all the allegations, has been run by Boris Berezovsky's usual advertising agency, called in by Berezovsky to turn an unknown incident into a cause celebre. Even the original Thallium-spouting toxicologist was hired by Boris!
You have to remember the context of the fight between Putin and Boris Berezovsky. A group of crooks arranged for Yeltsin to run Russia, and then Yeltsin looked the other way while the oligarchs robbed the country blind. It was the single largest theft in the history of crime. A large part of Putin's popularity in Russia is based on the fact that he is perceived as standing up for Russia and the Russian people, something almost unheard of in the last thousand years of Russian history. A major part of his reputation is based on his attempts to jail the crooks and recover the stolen assets. Putin has one of the main oligarchs, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, in jail, but has been thwarted in his attempts to capture most of them due to the fact that most of them are claiming to be Jews and are hiding in Israel under Israeli protection (part of the habitual Israeli mockery of international law is that it usually won't extradite Jews, or very rich people who claim to be Jews, which is part of the reason it is such an international organized crime haven). Boris Berezovsky has been sheltered by the British. It is only the oligarchs who have the criminal history, as well as the motive, means and opportunity, to commit this crime.

I note that the Israeli angle to the case is pure DEBKA disinformation intended to cast more slurs on Putin's righteous recapturing of the oligarch-stolen assets of Yukos (ask yourself, why would DEBKA point a finger towards Israel?). This Cold War nonsense - Cryptome, which usually has exemplary instincts, has been publishing a lot of crap lately! - is going to be the subject of a lawsuit by the defamed Romano Prodi. Finally, the idea that the murder had to do with upcoming revelations about Putin involvement in a dirty war against the Chechens is the height of nonsense. The Russians, who are more hip to conspiracy theory than those decadent progressives in the decadent West (largely because the long-suffering Russian people don't have the luxury of ignoring the truth because it doesn't match the color of their political drapes), know all about that stuff, including the idea that the Russian government blew up buildings in Moscow in order to help Putin get elected. Revelations about Putin's dirty tricks would increase Putin's popularity in Russia.

I doubt that his crime will ever be solved. The Labour Party, which is in the middle of a scandal involving selling House of Lords seats to rich people for cash loans, is bankrupt (due to the hilarious fact that some of the rich guys, one of whom got arrested rather than a peerage, want their money back!), and presumably can be bought at record low prices. The British police are following the usual corrupt practice of barking up the wrong tree. The one thing the oligarchs have a lot of, due to their raping of the Russian people, is cash.
 
very fruitful timepassing to expect any of them uttering a word of truth
http://www.kommersant.com/p729074/Litvinenko_Polonium_KGB_Veterans/
 
http://ktla.trb.com/news/la-sci-polonium1jan01,0,2332702.story?coll=ktla-news-1

For such a rare element, lots of people seem to have had access to it (including the Israelis in 1956). The first death via Polonium poisoning occured in 1927 (one of Marie Currie's staff). The article seems to think that coming up with the idea of assassination was one of the best and most novel uses for this stuff.

Polonium-210's quiet trail of death

The radioactive substance had killed long before the unsolved poisoning of a former Russian spy.

By Karen Kaplan and Thomas H. Maugh II, Times Staff Writers

January 1, 2007

The poisoning death of Alexander Litvinenko in November caused by the radioactive isotope polonium-210 sparked a sharp interest in the exotic material, but the onetime Russian spy was not the first to swallow the lethal element.

At the height of World War II, in an isolated medical ward at the University of Rochester in New York, Dr. Robert M. Fink gave water laced with polonium-210 to a terminal cancer patient and injected four others with the isotope. None of the five apparently died from the minute doses, though one succumbed to his cancer six days later.

The ethically dubious experiment, prompted by concern for the safety of workers in the Manhattan Project to develop the atomic bomb, yielded the first solid information about the isotope's health effects on humans.

It also underscores the mystery and intrigue that have marked the history of the element since it was discovered by Marie and Pierre Curie a century ago. The isotope has left a distinctive trail of deaths, most of them a consequence of ignorance.

Although scientists suspected polonium-210 was dangerous, they failed to appreciate how easily it could spread — escaping laboratory confinement like a genie from a bottle and spreading its lethal radiation on faint currents of air.

Engineers have struggled to find a use for the isotope, incorporating it for a time in spark plugs, nuclear warhead triggers and spacecraft power supplies. It plays a small role today as an antistatic agent for printing presses.

Assassins may have finally hit on its most effective use.

"The scientific community is intrigued" by Litvinenko's slaying, said radiation biologist David A. Dooley, who studied exposure levels in workers who produced polonium for the Manhattan Project. "It's pretty clever they came up with this."

In many ways, polonium-210 is an ideal poison for espionage — deadly, and undetectable until it's too late.

A dose of the white powder smaller than a grain of salt could have been dropped into Litvinenko's drink at the Millennium Hotel's Pine Bar in London without altering the taste, according to chemist John Emsley of Cambridge University.

Within minutes of ingestion, the energetic particles shooting off the polonium-210 molecules began killing the cells lining Litvinenko's gastrointestinal tract. As the cells sloughed off, they caused nausea, severe internal bleeding and enormous pain.

"It was as if his internal organs received a severe sunburn and peeled," said Peter Zimmerman, a physicist at King's College London.

Pound for pound, polonium-210 is at least a million times more toxic than hydrogen cyanide, the poison used to execute prisoners in gas chambers, according to medical toxicology books. Radiation safety experts calculate that a single gram of polonium could kill 50 million people and sicken another 50 million.

But it is extremely hard to get. About 100 grams — or 3 1/2 ounces — are produced each year, primarily by Russia.

It is also elusive. Whereas most radioactive elements emit gamma rays, which register on radiation detectors, polonium-210 instead emits alpha particles.

"There was no way that forensic scientists could detect it" until it had done its damage, Emsley said.

Unlike other radioactive elements, polonium-210 is relatively safe to transport. Highly lethal gamma rays pass through most substances, but alpha particles — each composed of two protons and two neutrons — can be blocked by a sheet of paper or the thin layer of dead cells on the surface of the skin.

To kill, polonium must be inhaled or ingested so that it is in direct contact with healthy tissue.

"I could put it in a tiny Ziploc bag, and I would be fine," said Dooley, president and chief executive of MJW Corp., a consulting firm in Amherst, N.Y., that specializes in radiological and health physics services.

But that doesn't mean it's easy to handle. Polonium-210 is a determined escape artist.

The energy produced as it naturally disintegrates is so great that "small chunks, perhaps a few hundred atoms in size, are blasted out of the surface and then drift around the room," Zimmerman said.

"It would tend to creep around the lab," Dooley said. "If you had polonium in an open jar and you left it overnight, the next thing you knew, it would be all over the lab. It would jump on a dust particle and end up on lab benches and floors and things."

Since identifying polonium-210 as the poison that killed Litvinenko, investigators have found traces of it in hotel rooms, airplanes, embassy rooms and other sites in the U.S. and Europe visited by Andrei Lugovoy, a former KGB bodyguard who is considered a potential suspect in the case. Lugovoy has said he is being set up by persons unknown.

Polonium-210 is found in very low concentrations in Earth's crust. It makes its way into plants, food and water, and occurs in trace amounts in tobacco smoke. Most people's bodies contain about one-millionth the level of a toxic dose, said Vilma Hunt, who studied the health effects of polonium-210 at the Harvard School of Public Health.

Of polonium's 25 isotopes, polonium-210 is the most stable. After 138 days, half of it decays into a nonradioactive isotope of lead. It takes 10 half-lives — about three years — for all of it to be converted into lead.

In the process, it emits a significant amount of heat. A 1-gram lump will reach more than 500 degrees Fahrenheit.

The first polonium death occurred in 1927.

The victim was Nobus Yamada, a Japanese researcher in Marie Curie's lab in France. In 1924, he worked with Curie's daughter Irene Joliot-Curie to prepare polonium sources. After returning home the next year, Yamada fell ill.

"There was a poisoning from the emanations," he wrote Irene, according to Susan Quinn, author of "Marie Curie: A Life."

Marie and Pierre Curie discovered polonium while they were searching for the cause of excess radiation in a uranium-rich ore called pitchblende. In 1898, they traced the radiation to a substance that they dubbed radium F. When Marie Curie determined that it was a unique element, she named it polonium to bring attention to the plight of her homeland, Poland, which had been partitioned among Russia, Prussia and Austria.

The Curies' daughter Irene also fell victim to the isotope. She died of leukemia in 1956, 10 years after a sealed capsule of polonium-210 was accidentally broken in her laboratory at the Radium Institute in Paris.

About the same time, scientists developing Israel's nuclear program were exposed to its lethal effects.

The first signs of contamination were the traces of radiation on the laboratory desk of Israeli physicist Dror Sadeh. He had taken what he thought were adequate precautions against the hyperactive element.

But those precautions weren't enough. Radiation was discovered "in my private home, and on my hands too and on everything that I touched," he wrote in his diary.

Within a month, one student who worked in Sadeh's lab at the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, was dead from leukemia. The lab's supervisor died a few years later — contaminated by polonium-210 as well, Sadeh suspected.

As a product, polonium-210 has been mediocre at best.

Its first use was in automobile spark plugs. The alpha particles emitted during its decay helped produce a stronger spark, claimed a 1929 patent issued to J.H. Dillon of the Firestone Tire & Rubber Co.

The company began marketing the plugs in 1940, but their benefits were never proved.

Polonium-210 played a key role in World War II. Manhattan Project engineers alloyed the isotope with beryllium and used it to produce the neutrons that triggered the atomic bomb's chain reaction.

Because of polonium's short half-life, the nuclear triggers lost their effectiveness in two years and had to be continually replaced. By the 1970s, engineers abandoned it in favor of the hydrogen isotope tritium, with a half-life of 12.3 years.

Polonium was considered as a power source for U.S. satellites, but its short half-life again limited its utility, and plutonium was used instead. The Soviets, however, did employ polonium to keep their Lunokhod moon rovers running in the 1970s.

Engineers finally found a viable use for it in printing plants and textile mills, capitalizing on its electron-grabbing ability to neutralize the static electricity generated by moving sheets of paper or fabric. Typically, a small amount of the radioactive material is embedded in a gold foil that is placed near the sources of static electricity.

It is also used in photo labs, embedded in the bristles of cleaning brushes to counter the static electricity that causes dust to cling to pictures.

Polonium-210 could theoretically be extracted from either the foil or the brushes in a quantity sufficient to poison someone, Emsley said, but it would require a sophisticated knowledge of chemistry and a well-equipped laboratory.

Most of the research about polonium-210's health effects stemmed from concerns for the safety of the 2,000 workers who produced the isotope for the U.S. nuclear arsenal.

To test its effects, doctors recruited terminal cancer patients who were willing to participate in radiation experiments in 1944, according to reports prepared later by the Department of Energy.

Fink and his colleagues determined that most of the polonium went into the gastrointestinal tract and was eliminated in feces. It also collected in the spleen, kidneys and liver.
 
Back to Suleiman Kerimov, the Russian billionaire that was mentioned in this thread.
He crashed in a way that is cause for doubt.

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/ferarri-flambe-en-france-russian-billionaire-and-duma-deputy-suleiman-kerimov-crashes-enzo-217222.php

and,

Axel_Dunor said:
Joe said:
http://www.kommersant.com/p725048/Suleiman_Kerimov/

Suleiman Kerimov Badly Injured in Car Wreck
Kerimov himself was behind the wheel and moving significantly faster then the speed limit when the black Ferrari unexpectedly crossed the sidewalk and struck a tree.
This scenario seems quite unprobable. Here are some specificities of the Promenade des Anglais :
* it is a straight road
* there are 3 or 4 lanes on both sides
* there is a permanent speed cam
* there is a lot of traffic light
* at 3.30 pm on a weekday it is quite a busy road

So it doesnt seem so easy to me to drive very fast (even with a sport car) on this road at this time though it is not impossible.
It is not impossible; that I can perfectly imagine.

From close to 100% reliable source though, I have learned that he was rescued to Belgium, and this with a personal jet ordered by the Belgian minister of defense, Flahaut, as I later learned from the Belgium newspapers. But according to my source, there was a lot of hectic behavior immediately after the crash, and at a certain time a sudden decision came, and he was flown over to Belgium in a NATO plane. He now is being treated in the Burn Wound Centre (brandwondencentrum) in Neder-Over-Heembeek close to Brussels. The burn centre IS military territory. And see, his personal quarter is being guarded by men which were described as typically looking like "men in black", overruling the system, or at least trying to overrule the system, with a lot of fanfare (makes me go like huh ??!).

Money ? Or something deeper ?
 
Charles said:
Back to Suleiman Kerimov, the Russian billionaire that was mentioned in this thread.
He crashed in a way that is cause for doubt.

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/news/ferarri-flambe-en-france-russian-billionaire-and-duma-deputy-suleiman-kerimov-crashes-enzo-217222.php
Is this what they call a mafia 'hit'?

I had a look at the pictures and I wonder how anyone could survive a high speed crash (which ripped the car in half) as well as extensive burns from fire.

Could a bomb do this type of damage?
 
Hi,

I thought of a completely different take on this incident, you know how events have more than one explanation.

Well, last night on BBC 4 I caught a program about the psychological impact of the Litvinenko and polonium affair on the general public.

www(.)bbc.co.uk/radio4/science/allinthemind.shtml

POLONIUM-210
In the midst of last November’s radiation poisoning from Polonium-210 of the Russian ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko, it was easy to forget that scores of people in the capital could also have been victims and that the potential for mass panic was present.

In the past week, one of the key agencies involved in managing this unique public health hazard, held a conference in London to examine the whole incident. Dr James Rubin reveals the findings of new research investigating the psychological reaction of the public, as well as those directly touched by the incident. He also talks about his latest follow-up study into the psychological impact of the July 7th 2005 terrorist bombings on Londoners.
In the interview, they discussed how much threatened people felt and how the perceived threat level was different in different social groups. The psychologist in the interview, Dr James Rubin, studies psychological impact of terrorism and wrote this study:
Enduring consequences of terrorism: A seven month follow-up survey of reactions to the bombings in London on 7 July 2005
Rubin GJ, Brewin CR, Greenberg N, Hacker Hughes J, Simpson J & Wessely S

There was a whole report compiled by the Health Protection Agency as well.

My thought was that one aspect of this whole incident could have been to either (a) try a new way to scare people or (b) have a sort of trial run and tweaking of tactics for the future and have psychologists evaluate it for the PTB without even knowing about it. I am aware that this might just be speculation on my part but I wanted to share my thoughts.
 
Laura quoting Kommersant said:
The key is here, I think:

The accident occurred at about 3:30 p.m. on a stretch of the Promenade des Anglais where the speed limit is 50 km./h. Kerimov himself was behind the wheel and moving significantly faster then the speed limit when the black Ferrari unexpectedly crossed the sidewalk and struck a tree.
What is significant to me is
a) he is alive
b) he was retrieved from a burning car
c) he is being treated of burns and "a head injury"
d) the tree in the jalopnik link above does not look like it had been hit at "significantly more than 50kmh"
e) why is no picture of the snout of the car ? oversight of the photographer ?

what could be "significantly faster than 50kmh": 80kmh ? 100 ? 150 ? anybody who has seen a road accident or the pics of road accidents shown at ogrish dot com knows that people crashing against anything at "significantly more than 50kmh" don't get retrieved from a burning wrack to be "treated of burns and head injuries": victims of such accidents often fly dozens of meters, and remains look more like chunks of meat than like somebody suffering "head injuries and several burns".

Here is a picture of the Promenade des Anglais: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/416461
check also the google-maps link there to get an idea of the place.

YMMV.
 
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