Multiple Sclerosis

Psyche said:
Hi bosy, have you read Life Without Bread and the Ketogenic thread? There was a time when MS didn't exist, much less to the degree that we see it nowadays. MS actually follows Agrarian societies. While what we eat is not the sole factor, it is the one thing that our bodies receive on a daily basis, deriving from there all the substrates for bodily processes (including reparation) and raw materials for our organs and tissues. "You are what you eat". Check out Life Without Bread ASAP, it has changed the lives of many.
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Psyche has a point. So far as I'm aware, Stanislaw Tanchou was the first to use the term "diseases of civilization" in reference to the idea that many of the common ailments within modern societies are the result of people switching to grains for a significant part of their diets.

"Stanislaw Tanchou gave the first formula for predicting cancer risk. It was based on grain consumption and was found to accurately calculate cancer rates in major European cities. The more grain consumed, the greater the rate of cancer." Tanchou made the claim in 1843, to the Paris Medical Society. He also postulated that cancer would likewise never be found in hunter-gatherer populations. This began a search among the populations of hunter-gatherers known to missionary doctors and explorers. This search continued until WWII when the last wild humans were "civilized" in the Arctic and Australia. No cases of cancer were ever found within these populations, although after they adopted the diet of civilization, it became common."
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The term "diseases of civilization" is now being used by Dr. Woodrow C. Monte (food scientist) to explain his discovery that methanol (wood alcohol), poisonous to humans, is often found in modern diets as the result of food canning that began on a large scale around two hundred years ago. MS or multiple sclerosis is one of the diseases that he includes in his list of ailments caused by consuming methanol. The methanol is produced by some of the fermentation that often happens during the processing and storage of canned or packaged foods. Basically he says that methanol consumed by people from a number of sources, including cigarette smoke and artificial sweeteners (like aspartame) turns to formaldehyde at various locations in the body, the same kind of formaldehyde that is used to preserve body parts for biology classes. In other words, various parts of the body are turned into a type of plastic and are mummified. According to Dr. Monte, the main reason this has been allowed to continue is that food products are tested on animals, and animals are able to metabolize methanol but humans cannot. He has fought all the way to the US Supreme Court with his discovery but was told that the court relies on the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to tell them what is safe. Dr.Monte explains methanol’s ability to produce various diseases is the result of the genetic differences in people and methanol can easily convert to formaldehyde in an area of one person's body, yet in another person, it can attack somewhere else. I have read that methanol can accumulate in the body depending on how much and how often it is consumed. The human body has some ability to clear itself of methanol but it is very inefficient at doing so since our ancestors rarely came across it in their earlier evolution.

There are a couple of radio shows that present a somewhat easy to understand discussion of his research available at his web site _www.thetruthaboutstuff.com. Look for
Crash! Are You Ready? - George Whitehurst Berry: June 9, 2010
Crash! Are You Ready? - George Whitehurst Berry: June 10, 2010
This URL will take you directly to where you can find them,
_http://thetruthaboutstuff.com/radio.html

There is also a paper written by Dr. Monte called "Methanol: A chemical Trojan horse as the root of the inscrutable U" referred to as PDF 586 at his other web site _www.whilesciencesleeps.com . Look for a link at the bottom of the home page just under an entry with a title of Methanol A Chemical Trojan Horse. It provides a general description of his discovery and how it relates to the many diseases of civilization, including multiple sclerosis or MS, Alzheimer's, atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease, Lupus, skin and breast cancer, autism and a number of other diseases.

If it turns out that Dr. Monte's work is significant, and it seems that he is convinced that it is, then for anyone who is smoking, consideration might be given toward switching to an air dried tobacco since the indications are that the methanol that is reported to be in tobacco smoke comes from the fermentation process that is often used in production. There are air dried tobaccos readily available at most tobacco shops from what I understand, and a search on the net produced at least one entry stating that air dried tobaccos contain more nicotine. So as a result, a person may wind up needing less tobacco to get the same results. Also, methanol can come from other environmental sources such as industries producing wood products, and possibly other commercial operations that might use a product containing methanol in some form. For anyone with a borderline health condition, my vote would be to identify all potential sources of methanol and avoid them for a time, then see if things improve or at least stabilize.

Bosy, I hope this information is of some benefit to your father and perhaps others as well. Welcome to the forum and keep us informed on your situation, we might all learn something.
 
Piscarian said:
Bosy, I hope this information is of some benefit to your father and perhaps others as well. Welcome to the forum and keep us informed on your situation, we might all learn something.
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You would have to talk with my father. Mostly there were many emotional things but it became his main thing to deal with at least (also checking out all the medicine and methods but it was more usual). It affected whole our home of course. A few people were helping us in some ways. We had to deal with our daily routine and expectations.

I showed him one of the Cassiopaean transcripts and he was surprised how familiar it all was for him (but I was reading it since 2005 so maybe it also could be felt somehow).
 
I change my diet according to what you say and it is obviously better; I talked with my parents, we're doing some steps, my mother works in a sanatorium and she knew about no-gluten diet due to some other health reasons but basically she knows what food it is, we also live by the sea so we've got some access to sea-food, also we maybe can have some access to the well prepared meat (it was a village but it all languish there).

That's for now.
 
Hi bosy!
I just want to tell you about my experiences with gluten free products. On the start with this diet I was buying all products where is gluten free on it. But it turns out after two or three months that the industry already made it they're product and sales it in masses adding many things to preserve this product for longer.

I was addicted to it. I eat more then usualy, that was strange. I gained weight again. After I stopped to eat the plastic packaged products and bought fresh from the farmer or from the village market it went well. The thread LWB helped a lot.

Take care and all the best to you and your father!
 
Kaigen said:
Hi bosy!
I just want to tell you about my experiences with gluten free products. On the start with this diet I was buying all products where is gluten free on it. But it turns out after two or three months that the industry already made it they're product and sales it in masses adding many things to preserve this product for longer.

I was addicted to it. I eat more then usualy, that was strange. I gained weight again. After I stopped to eat the plastic packaged products and bought fresh from the farmer or from the village market it went well. The thread LWB helped a lot.

Take care and all the best to you and your father!
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Yeah, I know :/ Thanks.
 
TED presentation by Dr. Terry Wahls. She treated her own MS with the paleo diet.
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=KLjgBLwH3Wc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKLjgBLwH3Wc

website. http://www.terrywahls.com
 
Thx for the answers, the most important was about the diet; we already knew a lot and experimented with food and medicine so there probably isn't much more hope.

There is no news from Ellipse I see on the subject after a few months I wasn't checking out the forum.

The most important experience for my father was probably the surgery he got after which he even started to walk again. It also was the time I experienced a mess with the energies causing pain in down parts of my spine. It got better after about a year but (as usual) I had to be very cautious with the relations I had. As I mentioned before he was feeling better after the surgery but he don't walk. So it went wrong or the surgery didn't help that much (but it was that better for a few days after the surgery). That's why I asked about Reiki because I felt this circumstance as an energy. And that's why I asked here because I felt it has to do with some choices on that way (while choices were mentioned by Cassiopaeans as one of the main lessons from the 4th density, while we were talking about some change and a 'jump' from 3rd to 4th.)
 
Hello bosy, I'm here !

Sorry for the long wait but I was overworked and I need a bit of mental energy to immerse myself in this horrible period.

So first here's some of the symptoms I had experience, First there was sometime sensations of water on my legs when the sheets of the bed touch me. Then one leg and then both become to start shaking when lying in the bed. I was more and more tired too. I think this a period of 4, 5 months. More and more frequently vertigos too and problem too sleep.

Then a day, my legs shakes more than usual and I was practically enable too walk. It was like walking in 1 meter (5 foots) of water. So I stayed all long in the bed. Perhaps 1 week later it all my body which was shaking and my shoulders doing involuntary movements and the worst was that I was enable too sleep. I think I had not sleep for 5 days at all.

As MS is basically nerves dissolving you have a range of sensations totally wired. It's highly stressful. For example you have red dots in hands and under foots. Red dots which are like burning iron shaft planted in hands an foots, the sensation that the body is going apart, difficulty to breath, even the difficulty to speak as energy is vanishing. I had an episode of loosing sight on one eye too and my body would internally vibrated all the time. I had too attacks of this kind spaced of nine months perhaps. It's just horrible and hard to describe.

OK, so how I've treat that?

I've used Cayce advices and it had perfectly work! Thanks too him. The difficulty was to have a very low energy (having recovered a bit) and gather all what I need.

Cayce explain us that MS is due a combination of elements missing in the blood (gold and/or silver) at very low level and poisons (who said vaccines?) in the bloodstream. This is the result of a long process, sometime from the conception when a parent is already short with those elements. Taking those elements by mouth is usually not the solution as there's precisely a lack of absorption. So:

1/ The WettCell: http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/holistic_health/data/thwetcel.html This basically a battery producing a very low current and witch reload the body (I really sense effect when using it), give the gold or silver vibration to the body and rebuild nerves (electricity). Cayce said that the gold vibration is the highest that can be found (on earth I suppose).
A warning: never ingest alcohol the day you use the wettcell: electricity + alcohol = nerve destroyed! More, the wettcell must be used with a good state of mind ( a constructive one).

2/ Beef Juice. Receipt here: http://www.edgarcayce.org/are/holistic_health/data/thbeefj.html
Easy to cook once you have do it the first time. The VERY VERY IMPOTANT PART is to take a teaspoon of it very very slowly. It's very strong and if you take it as a "glup" you just achieve the opposite effect! So a teaspoon must be taken in tree time and the beef juice must be digest in the mouth. Best to train with water first I think.
The beef juice help to rebuild the blood.

3/ Diet: Eat nerves building food: watercress, celery. Those containing gold : carrots, those containing vitamin B : all yellow food. Those containing iodine (very important): oysters is the best. Do not eat beef but lamb. Much more easy to digest. Do not eat canned food and smoked food, hard to digest for someone with MS and no gluten and absolutely no fried food.

4/ Massages for rebuild muscles and give them what they lack:

"The massage should be given immediately following the use of the Appliance, and must be very carefully administered, very persistently - always away from the head. Use only Peanut Oil. Begin with the very first cervical, gently, massaging on each side of each segment, downward, even to the toe tips, along each side of the spine".

"A thorough massage of the body especially the spine and extremities was suggested in 48 out of the 56 cases - 85.6% (28 out of the 34 cases in Group I - 82.4%) - and usually followed the daily use of the wet cell. In all but two of the cases the massage was to be done with a variety of mixtures of oils. These mixtures have been classified into two types: the simple (31 out of 56 cases - 57.2%) and the complex (14 out of 56 cases - 25. 0%). The simple mixture was usually a combination of equal parts of olive oil and peanut oil plus melted lanolin in the following ratio: two ounces (60 ml) of olive oil, two ounces of peanut oil, one-quarter ounce (28/4 = 7,5 ml) of lanolin. The complex mixture usually used an olive oil base plus peanut oil, various combinations and amounts of Russian white oil, oil of cedarwood, oil of sassafras root, oil of pine needles, Nujol, lanolin, oil of wintergreen, tincture of benzoin, tincture of myrrh, witch hazel, spirits of camphor, spirits of turpentine, mutton suet, and/ or oil of mustard. The most frequently used oils in the complex group were the first seven in the preceding list.

The directions for the massage were as varied as were the different combinations of oils. In the majority of cases it was suggested to massage from the spine to the distal portions of the extremities, but in some from the tips of the extremities to the spine. Although the spine and extremities were mentioned most, the chest and abdomen were also suggested. When it was specified, a circular motion for the massage was recommended.

The use of massage is one of the current medical treatments (as supportive therapy) for multiple sclerosis and certainly helps to maintain the tone of muscles which have lost their normal innervation. The advantage is that, when and if function returns (e.g., after one of the characteristic spontaneous remissions in the disease), the muscle will not have atrophied and shortened. The Cayce readings implied that the various oils used in massaging would be absorbed by the skin and somehow aid the healing process. From the standpoint of modern medical knowledge the oils would mainly perform a lubricative function and thus aid in making the massage more easy to perform. Certain of the oils might stimulate circulation in the skin. In the readings from 1941 to 1944 (during World War 11) the simple mixture was almost always suggested. This may have been because certain of the ingredients used in the various complex mixtures may have been difficult to obtain. However, the simple mixture would probably serve the lubricative function as well as the complex."


Advice : start with the beef juice for your father, quick.
 
Some other points I've forget:

- I've stayed in the open as practically as possible (and this is valid for all of us I think). Only when the weather is right of course.

- Diet:
-- Important to not mix citrus fruits with cereal at the same time. Very hard to digest.
-- I eat regularly calve (better) and beef liver. This help blood building.

Cubbie said:
So sorry to hear about your father. My friend has MS, her condition worsened until she has to get expensive shots everyday, subsidized partly by our government, . She seemed to go weaker each time I see her. Then I passed her this vid of Dr. Terry Wahls discussing her MS and its connection to modern day diet.. hope it'll inspire you too.

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs7jqqdv5eg

Take care.
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I quick watch it and yes it's seem very good.The body must be feed with a lot of things to help rebuild himself. This is a systemic disaster this is why no magical drug can really cure. The body need to be feed with what it's lacking but the difficulty is that at the root there's an absorption problem. So it's why in most case it's very hard to recover. So the beef juice and the wett cell which short circuit the usual absorption process.

Hope you'll transmit informations to your friend Cubbie.

Another point I've forget: I've treat my liver with acupuncture. A real acupuncturist (one who know to read the Chinese pulse) is able to diagnose the body in a very efficient way.
 
Here's some others points I'm thinking:

About the beef juice receipt:
- When you have to do it the first time, the best is to find somewhere to buy the right piece of beef (round steak) because this is a very lean peace. The butcher do not always have this part. Try another butcher or shop if possible. If not, ask him the more lean part he have.
- You have to have a sharp knife to dice the meat! This seems obvious but it's easy to be annoy by this and it's a sufficient raison to give up after 2 or 3 preparations
- Persistence is the key! The beef juice can be keep in the fridge 3 days max. So it must be cooked each 3 or 4 days. Once you have the habit it's easy. And it must be take for longs periods, especially at the start. The key is not to stop when one feel better and persist.
 
it will be cool if they even check these things out. it's being years since my father was suffering and it became familiar. sometimes it really doesn't matter - spiritually he feels very well. anyway i've sent it them. my mother works in food so she would know. she's on the main community (forum) of sm diagnosis in our country, it would be good if she posts it.
 
i am not sure about the wettcell battery - is this a battery specifical for that disease and would be better to buy it or a standard battery?
 
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