Multiple Sclerosis

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Hi Bosy, Not good to be obsessed about it. But I've always felt that searching for the truth is very important. Even if we have to weed through a lot of disinformation to get there. You were on my mind since reading this yesterday. I don't have time to dig through my endless files right now. But I did a quick search looking for he original map photos I'd found about confirmed cases of Lyme vs MS. No luck finding those today, but I ran across this article. It's not exactly what I was looking for, but it will give you an idea of just what I was talking about.

The photo below is confirmed deaths. Like I said not exactly what I was looking for. Most people go on to live long and wonderful lives after being diagnosed with either condition.

This is just one link. If you search for connections between Lyme and MS on the internet you'll find many articles, probably even better than this one, from more reliable sources. Time is not on my side...have to work today. Lots of info in the link below.

Multiple sclerosis is Lyme disease: Anatomy of a cover-up [...] http://owndoc.com/lyme/multiple-sclerosis-is-lyme-disease-anatomy-of-a-cover-up/

My father was taking antibiotics for the lyme disease for about a year. It didn't help and it only made him feel worse. My parents were testing many drugs with combinations - this didn't help.

Also the surgery on the circulatory system didn't help. (It helped a little - surely it was a difference to him but with time it's rather as with humor.)

He takes some drugs but it was rather resigning from stuff than keeping the tested.

Also it was clearly much about the emotional and energetic circumstance. It became also spiritual to him.

(Btw, his diet is ok, there is gluten in it but not very; myself I don't eat and buy and take almost anything and it takes some caution to me to live in this world which the most often seems pointless.

The Cayce method seems to be okay, we didn't take it yet.)

 

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In my family two people are suffering from MS. Both are my uncles and due to the fact they are closely related (their mothers are sisters, one of which is my grandma) they were introduced to a somehow novel (few years ago) treatment with Interferon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interferon

I'm not sure how much it helped, but they have been diagnosed also about 10 years ago and:

One of my uncles (diagnosed a bit earlier, I think) walks hardly (you can notice a pain on his face) with a cane.

The second is quite OK, I would say his mental problems (depression & some other symptoms, probably caused by MS) are more visible than physical illness. He had immunological problem from early childhood and anginas for his whole life, which ruined him both physically and psychologically. He rarely leaves his flat, only when weather conditions are ideal, because he is scared of getting any infection.

Here are some links providing info on topic which is not legal on this forum, I suppose, so I won't comment on them. I just heard from lots of sources that it may be very helpful, but due to law restrictions in my country I don't think any of my uncles tried this kind of treatment:

http://scholar.google.pl/scholar?q=multiple+sclerosis+marihuana&hl=pl&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=E3tKUs_rIafy4QSMjICIBA&ved=0CCwQgQMwAA

I can't help too much, because my medical knowledge is poor, but I will recommend some tips&tricks mentioned in this thread to my uncles, especially beef juice;)

 

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Required dose of Interferon per month costs about twice of our monthly income. :P And by users of Polish forum on Multiple Sclerosis it is commented as causing bone cancer.

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it is unbending but affects brain in way that may intensify emotional and mental dificulties.

 

[Gimpy]

Here are some links providing info on topic which is not legal on this forum, I suppose, so I won't comment on them. I just heard from lots of sources that it may be very helpful, but due to law restrictions in my country I don't think any of my uncles tried this kind of treatment:

http://scholar.google.pl/scholar?q=multiple+sclerosis+marihuana&hl=pl&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ei=E3tKUs_rIafy4QSMjICIBA&ved=0CCwQgQMwAA

I can't help too much, because my medical knowledge is poor, but I will recommend some tips&tricks mentioned in this thread to my uncles, especially beef juice;)

Hello r34117y, and bosy,

In 2000, the doctors diagnosed me with MS.

I've heard just about every crazy idea going on how to either 'cure' or 'manage' MS. Of all the methods and treatments I've done? The few that have worked with consistent results are the following: Modified diet, mild exercise, breathing meditations, supplements when needed, and consistent sleep.

In thirteen years, the diet changes and breathing exercises you'll find in the forums here were consistently beneficial for the following issues: brain fog, fatigue, nerve pain, vision problems, balance, digestion, sleep, emotion regulation, and depression.

Is it a 'cure'? No. If there is one thing MS patients feel every day is a sense of being powerless over their own bodies. Diet changes and the benefits over time are boosts to morale that are measurable, consistent, improvements. For someone who never knows, one morning to the next, if her legs will work or not....that's priceless. (My legs may not work, but at least I can read, think, see etc.)

The risks of using illegal drugs to treat MS are too high. In the States resorting to such substances leads to ruined lives. People have had their homes taken away, lost jobs, had their children removed by the state, and worse. When more can be achieved without them, why take that kind of risk at all?

I've read the literature on medical pot. It does not change the fact that its considered an illegal substance with all the consequences that go with that. When compared to the results tweaking diet and modifying my lifestyle has done, its no contest. It makes zero sense to take that kind of risk.

 

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I think that using drugs, legals or not, mask the symptoms for a time but don't address the root of the problem witch seems to be a combination of a lack of absorption, poison in the body and in some case, some vital forces lacking at the conception.

Gimpy, do you have tried the beef juice receipt I described?

 

[Gimpy]

I think that using drugs, legals or not, mask the symptoms for a time but don't address the root of the problem witch seems to be a combination of a lack of absorption, poison in the body and in some case, some vital forces lacking at the conception.

Gimpy, do you have tried the beef juice receipt I described?

I'm currently reading up on EDTA chelation therapy. It was something I was going to do earlier in the year, but wasn't able to due to other health issues. I'm finally strong enough to have a go at that, which I think will offer longer term benefits as far as energy goes. Thank you for the offer on the recipe though. I'll keep in mind to try after a few rounds of chelation. Without a decent amount of detoxification, the beef juice may not be able to do me any good.

 

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I think that using drugs, legals or not, mask the symptoms for a time but don't address the root of the problem witch seems to be a combination of a lack of absorption, poison in the body and in some case, some vital forces lacking at the conception.

I don't care that much but what is important is the influence it makes not if it's called drug, food or vitamine.

 

[Gimpy]

I think that using drugs, legals or not, mask the symptoms for a time but don't address the root of the problem witch seems to be a combination of a lack of absorption, poison in the body and in some case, some vital forces lacking at the conception.

I don't care that much but what is important is the influence it makes not if it's called drug, food or vitamine.

bosy,

The notion that 'whatever works is good' can lead to problems you may not want in the long run.

 

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I think that using drugs, legals or not, mask the symptoms for a time but don't address the root of the problem witch seems to be a combination of a lack of absorption, poison in the body and in some case, some vital forces lacking at the conception.

I don't care that much but what is important is the influence it makes not if it's called drug, food or vitamine.

bosy,

The notion that 'whatever works is good' can lead to problems you may not want in the long run.

Exactly and I don't think it will make attack phases disappearing but only alleviate symptoms. Which is not so bad if it's working and this is all you have I admit but it's a hack.

I think that using drugs, legals or not, mask the symptoms for a time but don't address the root of the problem witch seems to be a combination of a lack of absorption, poison in the body and in some case, some vital forces lacking at the conception.

Gimpy, do you have tried the beef juice receipt I described?

I'm currently reading up on EDTA chelation therapy. It was something I was going to do earlier in the year, but wasn't able to due to other health issues. I'm finally strong enough to have a go at that, which I think will offer longer term benefits as far as energy goes. Thank you for the offer on the recipe though. I'll keep in mind to try after a few rounds of chelation. Without a decent amount of detoxification, the beef juice may not be able to do me any good.

The beef juice would strengthen you and it would be help you to bear with the chelation but OK, do the chelation only so we will know for sure if it's giving you good result. Courage Gimpy!

 

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Exactly and I don't think it will make attack phases disappearing but only alleviate symptoms. Which is not so bad if it's working and this is all you have I admit but it's a hack.

I don't think it's a hack when you suffer the same practising yoga for years : P and tested all medicaments. For example your muscles unbend. But I don't know if I understood hack properly. (My father don't have recrudescences - he is getting worse and worse).

 

[Gimpy]

Exactly and I don't think it will make attack phases disappearing but only alleviate symptoms. Which is not so bad if it's working and this is all you have I admit but it's a hack.

I don't think it's a hack when you suffer the same practising yoga for years : P and tested all medicaments. For example your muscles unbend. But I don't know if I understood hack properly. (My father don't have recrudescences - he is getting worse and worse).

There are no 'quick fixes' to MS, which is the hard truth of it. If your father has been ill with it for years, he may have reached a point in which he's not going to recover fully from the flare ups. That is just the disease process.

There are things to be done to make life bearable, which is what I've been talking about. Diet is one thing that he can do for himself that can make a big difference. This will take time and determination on his part, because it takes time to see results.

I know its frustrating seeing a loved one suffer from a chronic condition. Have you been able to accept the facts about your fathers illness?

 

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There are no 'quick fixes' to MS, which is the hard truth of it. If your father has been ill with it for years, he may have reached a point in which he's not going to recover fully from the flare ups. That is just the disease process.

There are things to be done to make life bearable, which is what I've been talking about. Diet is one thing that he can do for himself that can make a big difference. This will take time and determination on his part, because it takes time to see results.

I know its frustrating seeing a loved one suffer from a chronic condition. Have you been able to accept the facts about your fathers illness?

You are taking me to the past. I was just asking if there is any method I didn't know. There pretty much is but he won't recover and it's obvious. I wasn't asking for help with emotions.

 

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There are no 'quick fixes' to MS, which is the hard truth of it. If your father has been ill with it for years, he may have reached a point in which he's not going to recover fully from the flare ups. That is just the disease process.

There are things to be done to make life bearable, which is what I've been talking about. Diet is one thing that he can do for himself that can make a big difference. This will take time and determination on his part, because it takes time to see results.

I know its frustrating seeing a loved one suffer from a chronic condition. Have you been able to accept the facts about your fathers illness?

You are taking me to the past. I was just asking if there is any method I didn't know. There pretty much is but he won't recover and it's obvious. I wasn't asking for help with emotions.

My apologies, bosy.

What does your father want, have you asked him?

 

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My apologies, bosy.

What does your father want, have you asked him?

I think he'd like Ferrari. :P Maybe he also would like to know you. Stop asking about my father. I wrote everything before. He is in a good mental and emotional health. He has a little difficult character but I like him - I don't like almost everyone. There isn't much that can help biologically.

It was very f-d up emotionally and it cost much time to do it better. I think it was easier or just possible during the wave. But it was before. A lifetime. :P