Nancy Lieder & The Zetas - "Zetatalk"

[henry]

Re: Nancy Lieder

Then can you explain to us how your filtering works and what makes it different?

In other words, can you explain to us how can you be certain that your filtering is showing or revealing something 'real' and isn't simply an artefact of the filtering process.

I looked at some of the photos you did of Michelle Obama, and you suggest that there are faces in them. The human mind appears to be programmed to recognise the human face. Put some dots above a straight line, and we see it as a face. In other words, it is easy to see faces where there aren't any. How do you take account of this in the work you do?

 

[yass]

Re: Nancy Lieder

I'm not sure which pictures you're referring to where I said I saw faces in them. I went looking to refresh myself but I didn't find.

 

[yass]

Re: Nancy Lieder

Not all filtering is the same. Not in the least bit.

So explain to me then: how is yours different?

I didn't say mine was different. I said no filtering is just the same. Entirely different results depending on the subject.

 

[anart]

Re: Nancy Lieder

Not all filtering is the same. Not in the least bit.

So explain to me then: how is yours different?

I didn't say mine was different. I said no filtering is just the same. Entirely different results depending on the subject.

Well, to be fair, you didn't really say that - at least not clearly. What you said is not all filtering is the same, which implies that you have some special filtering you use. Now, the real point here is that what you've done with the pictures not only proves nothing, but it doesn't even really suggest anything. So, if you could please - clearly - explain what your point is, it would be appreciated. Anyone can literally see anything in any picture - so it's a rather useless exercise to prove anything. Unless - there is some point you are trying to make but have yet to clarify, since you've actually said very little.

 

[Mountain Crown]

Re: Nancy Lieder

[quote author=yass]She looks less than human.[/quote]

It appears that yass is on the look out for shape-shifting reptilians ala David Icke:
_http://z6.invisionfree.com/Free_Thinkers/index.php?showtopic=3238 (A Model First Lady)

 

[knowledge_of_self]

Re: Nancy Lieder

I kind of have notes up on that thread, but what I wanted to share primarily, were the results of her photos being filtered. She looks less than human.

If you take any picture of me, literally any picture, and then apply Photoshop filters randomly, at some point you ARE going to come up with something that does not look human. And, I have this feeling that this applies not only to me, but to pretty much everyone, including Nancy.

In other words, you have shown what you wanted to show because that's what you wanted to show. In what way is this of interest?

As a long time photoshop artist, I can vouch that if you take ANY picture and apply photoshop, or any other software filter including poser pro, you get the same weird result at some point if you tweak it enough. Something other than human will surface if you mess with anything long enough at a pixel level. I'm not saying there are no well kept secrets and manipulation going on with Nancy Lieder, or even Obama. But it's the kind of info not so easily gotten by spending time messing around with their photos. To be frank it's a waste of time imo.

 

[spyraal]

Re: Nancy Lieder

As a long time photoshop artist, I can vouch that if you take ANY picture and apply photoshop, or any other software filter including poser pro, you get the same weird result at some point if you tweak it enough. Something other than human will surface if you mess with anything long enough at a pixel level. I'm not saying there are no well kept secrets and manipulation going on with Nancy Lieder, or even Obama. But it's the kind of info not so easily gotten by spending time messing around with their photos. To be frank it's a waste of time imo.

I second that. Any digital picture when scaled enough ends to look at pixel level like a strangely colored checker board, and all patterns and shapes can emerge at such low resolution.
I also doubt if using such editing methods there is any potential for real, life-changing information and proof to come out. IMO, in our digital era, digital pictures tend to hold little
value as evidence on their own, since fake or edited pictures can be released as real for all purposes, while real pictures can be easily dismissed and discredited as fakes. So i guess
that apart from having a picture, it takes a lot of other supplementing info and discernment to tell what is what. The devil is always in the details...

:)

 

[Vulcan59]

Re: Nancy Lieder

Well the person who started this thread hasn't return to answer any of the questions posed. Therefore as of now this looks like your typical troll.

 

[GRiM]

Just took a few quotes from the interview, but there is so much stuff that stands out so I guess there might be more insights that I've not thought about.
In a way its the antithesis to what I have learned from my own studies.

To the unknowing eye, Lieder would appear in every way to be your run of the mill, middle aged house wife. But that couldn't be further from the truth...

From an early age, Nancy Lieder has been in constant communication (both physical and telepathically) with a group of nancy-1extraterrestrials known to her (and us) only as the Zetas. Over the years, the Zetas have given Nancy many messages about a myriad of things- from Stonehenge to Bigfoot- as well as made some starting predictions about the changes we are experiencing on Earth and the passing of Planet X... all of which she has been documenting on her Zetatalk website since 1995.

She recently had a discussion with our very own Thom Acee about a medley of topics, including the passing of Planet X, devastating Earth changes, and an underground alien hybridization program.

So it's like a fluid conversation that never starts or stops. It’s just always there...

That's right. And where there are formalities, like when I have a question and answer session weekly that I post answers to, we actually arrange time for that . I say "well, what do you wanna do ... wanna do the geology questions this session" and then they assemble geologists- their geologists and sociologists. And some of them are obviously poets. They have their specialties, same way we do.

The Zetas seem rather detached from humanity... do they look at us like a great pet or something?

alien-randoOh no... No no no.

I would have to say this is more like Peace Corps. Are you familiar with that... college students could take a couple of years out, they could go to some third world country and um...
Try to civilize savage lands...

Well, you know, help a culture get windmills up or windmills to pump water so they don't have to carry it by hand... That type of thing. It’s basically not a self motivated thing. It’s not considering the people in Third world countries to be a pet... You consider them to be humans just like you but they're in a situation where they don’t have the resources.

Obviously, they are more intelligent- all the visitors are-

The Zetas are not... "We have a thousand different life forms" the Zetas said '... or more..."

This goes all the way to intelligent jellyfish... I met one that was like a gigantic ameba, like a rug on the floor, and he wrapped around my ankle to communicate with me. You have no idea how weird life forms are, you know... intelligent bugs, bird forms... Most planets that develop intelligent life are water planets. Crop circles are laid down by water creatures... there's water in those ships.

This is how they can be of assistance. They come out of their good heartedness to try to warn Mankind of what's coming. They are not allowed to go and interfere and say "OK, we are going to cure cancer, feed everybody on Earth... everybody will be beautiful and we will stop Planet X" because of the rules about this being our spiritual schoolhouse.

We are supposed to learn how to help each other...

So there is Quarantine on the Earth...

It's a non-interference rule... not quarantine.. A non-interference rule...

Like the "Prime Directive" in Star Trek?

StarTrek11Yea, but if you want a consultation... if you are fretting about something, wringing your hands and you said "oh what to do and this or that..." you are in essence giving the call requesting consultation. And you will get an offer from Visitors to talk to them about it. This is known as "becoming a contactee" - because of your request- and you can say "Oh no... No, no never mind... I didn't realize I was calling you ." I'll talk to my family minister about it, not to a bunch of weird looking guys. You know, you can say no... You are in control. But now be aware... approximately 5%of all out visitors are down here talking to the approximate 5% of humanity which is not good hearted. They are greedy. And they are called the Service to Self. They have never grown up and learned how to care for others as much as themselves. They are still just as selfish as a newborn baby. So if you give the wrong call... If your desire is not to help your neighbor or what to do about someone who is in pain that you care about... If your desire is to figure out how to get rid of your neighbor so you can make out with his wife, you're giving the call to the Service to Self and they are not nice people.

They will lie to you. They will misguide you...

They sound like demons to me...

Yes... Yes... exactly... they can't harm you, they can't run off with you... but they can give you bad advice.

And all this Satanic rituals kind of stuff... that's really based on people just trying to get something for nothing by giving a call to those characters.

So there are War like aliens? Or are they all benevolent?

Yes, the Service to Self type.

The way it’s structured... It's young worlds where souls can be sparked, then they continuingly reincarnate forever, right, and become better and wiser and more massive. But we are a young world where souls are sparked- in other words, born- and on those worlds, those souls aren't really service to others or service to self.. They are just trying to figure it out.

That's the first lesson.. The first thing to be settled...

But after that, there is a separation and the five percent (on average)that stay service to self are then sent off to a prison planet to live with each other and that's what the Zetas say is Hell. It’s not a burning place... it's where you have to live... Dick Cheney and George W. Bush are gonna have to live with each other and argue about who has to clean the toilet.

You said that Jesus, Buddha, and Mohammed are star children in fact...

That's what the Zetas say.. Yes, yes...

And people have asked "Is Jesus going to return? He said 'When I return...' ", they said "This is spoken in allegory fashion. When he says "I will return" or "we will return" He is saying "the Service to Others will return at some time in the future.

So He himself won't come but something else...

Others who are highly Service to Other and that is true today of all the visitors. We are just swarming with alien visitors, by the way, just swarming. And people were saying "well can't He come back?" and they said "No, He's busy on another world with a similar mission that He had on Earth, teaching the Golden Rule ect.

So Jesus is busy setting up franchises?

alien-christ10Yea, this is what He does. He’s good at it and He knows it. And He does this and goes from world to world creating this kind of mystique, ya know... a message, which the Zetas said that you can't say the Bible is His word. He never wrote anything down. He repeated things verbally until they could not get lost. Things like the Golden Rule.. Love the least of those among you

Now you talk about a Hybridization program. Can you talk about that a little?

Yea, and the Zetas even go down into the physiology of... in the future we will not fart, for instance...