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Nell-Li

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Hi, name is Nelson and I m new to the forum. I have read most of the stuff on the cassiopaea material and "Secret History of the World". After much thought and down on myself, I have decided I can not lead on with the life I have. ( I m college student supported by my parents) I decided to drop out and get a job, but the real question is: How do I break it to my parents which have gave life and limb for my education? I know trying to explain the stuff I have learned would be near imppossible with the language barrier alone. Any questions and comments are welcome, have to make my decision final soon I guess. Thanks for listening y'all.
 
Hi
Im not to clear here.Have you dropped out and got a job NOW? Or are you still attending education and are about to drop out.Regarding explaininganything to your parents I dont see a need to,though I hope your reasoning for dropping out of education is not being put down to The secret History of the world. I did not see anything in this book that says drop out of college.
 
A couple of things:

1. Jobs are overrated ;) ... vastly.

2. If you think that because of your new knowledge you can't go on with "brainwash education" then I would advise pausing before making the jump. Have you read Castaneda? This happened to him early in his apprenticeship to Don Juan and he told Don Juan that his Anthopology studies now seemed empty and ridiculous and maybe he should drop out of his PhD program at UCLA. Don Juan advised him to complete the degree as an exercise in discipline.

3. With college you get some good training in mental discipline (and even more if you privately play "spot the disinfo." And, you get more freedom in what you can study than you will in any job.

4. It will also allow you to take the time to integrate your new knowledge without attracting the attention of the General Law (in the guise of your parents, for one thing). In other words, best not to make sudden moves.

Just my two cents. You have to decide for yourself, of course. Good luck.
 
DonaldJHunt said:
This happened to him early in his apprenticeship to Don Juan and he told Don Juan that his Anthopology studies now seemed empty and ridiculous and maybe he should drop out of his PhD program at UCLA. Don Juan advised him to complete the degree as an exercise in discipline.
From early on in life I suspected that "its all crap". But on the way towards adulthood (I may get there in a few more decades...) I discovered that it is not good enough to think or know it is crap, it is only good enough if you understand why it is all crap.

To that end, one must educate oneself to what one is criticizing.

I can be somewhat critical of the teachings of Christianity only because I have been taught about it most of my life. I cannot be fairly critical of Islam because I really have no clue.

Regardless of why you are in college, finishing your studies will only make you a better educated person if you are willing to be educated. I have met college degreed individuals who are uneducated because they simply went through the motions and have met high school drop-outs who have educated themselves. It is not the institution it is your internal desire that is important.

Still, even though "jobs may be overrated", one has to eat and wear clothing. It might as well be good food and nice clothing and to that end, you need a decent job with a decent education. It is simply a practical matter. One can be in the world without being of the world, to quote my Christian background.

The bottom line is that any education be it college or metaphysical or spiritual begins with a desire for answers. What is your desire for answers? To what questions? How will you feed and clothe yourself while you search?
 
I agree that you should stick with the education, (I like the other answers) I wish I simply had a better
vocabulary...and a few more steps up the income ladder.. (not too far as not to see the ground). . .
 
I agree that continuing your education is a good idea. Perhaps you just need to "adjust" your course? Quite a few members of QFG are currently involved in Masters and Ph.D. programs. They have found that it is very helpful to them to "stay the course" by keeping always in mind that becoming "experts" will give them a better opportunity to make a difference in the world utilizing what they learn in QFG. And, as was mentioned above, it is an act of discipline.
 
Take it from me,get the education.Of course you could always come work with me .I clean exhaust hoods and fans and ductwork in restaurants for a living
.makes ya think twice about take out :D ;)
Ya might also wanna change your approach in the reading of this material ,give it a second read.Didya skip over that "little" part about the whole "knowledge protects" thing or what ;)
 
Hi Nelson!

Reading your post it reminded me of myself when i started reading the cass material, and became anxious about changing my life; work, relationships, habits etc. :)

Now, about 2 years later, i even enrolled in a history class, in order to "fill in the blanks" regarding my knowledge of history, thus understand better what i read in Secret History and Controversy of Zion. I don't agree with all my professor says (who is negative regarding "conspiracy theories" - the way he understands it i guess) but he is open to debate and discussion in class, and i am thinking when the second copy of ponerology i ordered arrives, he might be getting it as a present ;) And my classmates by the end of the semester might become familiar with the word pathocracy

To add to what Laura says, perhaps you need to review whether you are sincerely interested in what you are currently studying - maybe you need to change your major? What program are you currently following? Like everybody before me said, you could combine your studies with what you are learning on your own and improve yourself and those who will be affected by your future profession.

Good luck, and don't forget to breath :)

Irini
 
Danny said:
Take it from me,get the education.Of course you could always come work with me .I clean exhaust hoods and fans and ductwork in restaurants for a living
.makes ya think twice about take out :D ;)
Ya might also wanna change your approach in the reading of this material ,give it a second read.Didya skip over that "little" part about the whole "knowledge protects" thing or what ;)
Hi Danny, nothing wrong with cleaning for a living (done it myself and will continue to do it),. Wouldn't mind working for you either! (anyway...) What do you think of an exhaust fan going off on its own, just like that. Should I call an electrician? Bizaro! I'm thinking there's an electical problem somewhere...

I had a new kitchen installed which included an oven and an exhaust fan, and bugger me if the exhaust fan doen't go 'off' occasionally, no reason or anything, it just .... starts.... I haven't found any reason for it to do so...

It just starts. so weird.
 
Stick with it, man. Won't do anyone any good if you dropped out of school and ended up in a dead end job. Money = energy in this world so if you want to do something constructive in the future you will need it.

Not all formal education is BS - bits and pieces of truth here and there, I've learned, and it's fun to spot them as you learn more and more of what really interests you like Cass material, Esoterica, etc. I'm in the same boat as you and have considered, like you, dropping out - but after half a semester after Waking Up I think I found a good 'balance' in it all.

Formal education shouldn't impede on your real learning as long as you keep at it with a clear mind. In fact, once you get into some of the advanced courses in your field(s) of interest, connections will start popping up and who knows? maybe you'll be contributing real research to the QFS. Learning is fun! :)
 
I been having the same problem as you Nelson, tough I didnt make a thread of it I thought about doing it.
As with you im in school too, Cognitiveneuropsychology :) and there was this course named Evolutionary psychology and the material
made me wonder if I should continue, but after reading the replys here I think I will endure and read on.
DonaldJHunt's reply really hit me, I will now look at it as a "will-exercise".
And money = energy. I really hope that the world dont end before Im done with school.

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It could be electrical,Ruth.I'm assuming the fan is located on your roof.It could be anywhere in the wiring.I also don't know how technical the system you have but there are some with timers as well.First person I would contact personally is the people who installed it.Let them hire out the technicians as needed because they are ultimately responsible for helping you out in troubleshooting and showing you the basic "ins and outs" of operation.Lol, if you have anymore questions ,feel free to e-mail me.
 
Some classes are more irritating than others, for example history and "contemporary world issues" are particularly aggrivating to me. The material is filled with distractions/disinfo but it is interesting to (as Donald J Hunt said) play "spot the disinfo" and then point it out in your class work. It seems that as long as you support your arguments the professors will not penalize for a dissenting viewpoint.
I would rather concentrate on math and physics (these classes can be aggrivating but in a different way) than courses in the humanities but they are required so I have little choice if I want to graduate.
I used to drill wells for a living, spending 20+ days a month on the road (1992-2003). The pay was good but I finally got sick of being gone all the time and enrolled in school with a declared major in engineering. I'll have my AA/AS in Dec. but there isn't a day that goes by where I don't think how much "easier" it might be to go back to work.
 
Thanks all for answering. Waiting and taking the time to think things through have made me realize what I should really be doing. I decided not to drop out and stick it through as far as I can get, because whatever doubt I had about myself did not amount to anything in the end.
 
I began to read the C's material while I wrote my master thesis. I suddenly seemed to me that my work was absolutely unimportant. I had a serious motivation problem to learn for my final examination - I did not want it any more, but I persisted.

Then I had a hard time staying in my job in a business agency because I knew about all the "dark" sides that you encounter when you are near to politics, government and financial institutions. After one year of struggling with myself and my motivation I finally see the positive side. That is, studying the pathocratic system from within. Thereby growing and becoming less vulnerable to its impacts.

So hold on, I wish you good luck!
 
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