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[luke wilson]

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Quote from JGeropoulas

So, Luke, first thing, lose the "loser" (i.e. "perceived internal inadequacy") identification, because, the more you wake up, the more your false, deceitful, programmed, "robot," ego becomes the "loser"--and good riddance! No truer words have been spoken than, "if you seek to save your life, you'll lose it" (attributed to Jesus)

I think this is quite interesting. You mean to tell me, this feeling of 'perceived internal inadequacy' is infact the ego crying out to be nourished? Wow, never saw it that way before.
Tbh, I have 'tried' to conform to what my false programmes have wanted before. I have tried to chase things just out of reaction but every single time I fail. What is the point of programmes, if you cannot give them what they want??? I mean, if you react and go for something you thought you wanted and then A) get it but realize it's not what you wanted or B) discover you cannot get it regardless of how hard you try, then surely this will only lead a person to asking questions and potentially finding out that maybe there is something false within him. I thought the aim of this programmes is to keep man locked up within himself. Maybe I have to read more about them to understand them better because I am confused. Just out of curiosity, are all programmes bad if I am to put it that way?? or should we look to identify and eliminate all of them, in a way to become 'programmeless'.

I also wonder how someone can tell the difference between a want by the false 'I' and a want by the real 'I'. Does the real 'I' have any needs, wants and desires???

Quote from JGeropoulas

I wish I'd been half as self-aware and awakening as you seem to be when I was in my "early twenties"! If I had been, I might have expressed it similarly to what you've written. I was in much the same place as you, with variations, but I was unaware that I was there. In other words, I was drowning, but was unaware I was in deep water.

I have read somewhere that it is indeed possible to think you are awake or awakening but in reality are indeed in a deep slumber. In all honesty, I might be slumbering away right now and would be none-the-wiser. What does it mean, to be awake? Is it, you realize your mechanical nature and thus try and act less mechanically and you try to figure out exactly who/what you are and maybe try and gain knowledge about the world?? This is what I can come up with after the little reading I have done about 'Awakening'. Is this more or less correct or is there more to it or have I completely misunderstood the whole concept??

 

[JGeropoulas]

...What does it mean, to be awake? Is it, you realize your mechanical nature and thus try and act less mechanically and you try to figure out exactly who/what you are and maybe try and gain knowledge about the world?? This is what I can come up with after the little reading I have done about 'Awakening'. Is this more or less correct or is there more to it or have I completely misunderstood the whole concept??

I'd say "more correct" as a summary statement. To learn more about the process, check out these posts:

Depression As A Stepping Stone
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2832.msg76821#msg76821
The First Initiation by Madame de Salzmann
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=16426.msg141216#msg141216
Understanding the Machine
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=17979.msg166031#msg166031

And generally, everything on "The Work" forum