Maybe RH generally has a role to play in seeing with the eyes closed given its broader perceptual field? Just a curious thought.
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Maybe RH generally has a role to play in seeing with the eyes closed given its broader perceptual field? Just a curious thought.
I found one guy that uses different stimulus to different areas of the retina in his light stimulation device. The difference between his method and the method that Zelinsky is using is that Zelinsky is not using flicker at all. She is just using the difference in the light intensity between different areas of the retina. And that seems to work for some reason.
Yes, I believe he is using binaural beats for the audio stimuli. And he is basing the visual stimuli on the same principle, a different frequency for the different hemisphere. But as we can see from the above image, binasal occlusion would produce the same stimulation for both hemispheres. It's hard to say whether one approach is better than the other, or both approaches have their own merits. But I think that they are both based on the same principles. And both work with the eyes closed.
“At my first visit, Dr. Adams inserted punctal plugs in my eyes,” Heather says. Punctal plugs are miniature devices placed in the tear ducts of the eyes. “The plugs immediately helped relax my sympathetic [nervous] system.” The sympathetic nerve network is what activates a person’s fight-or-flight response to danger or stress.
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Dr. Zelinsky placed a pair of punctal plugs in his tear ducts to “calm his brain.” The following morning, “I realized my balance was 100 percent back. I got up from bed and then went back down just to test it. I got back up again and jumped out of bed, all the time thinking, ‘this is amazing,’” Adriaan says.
In fact, Adriaan’s balance was so intact, he was later able to stand on a chair and install mosquito netting in his backyard – something he would not have done before receiving the tear-duct plugs.
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Praising what Mind-Eye’s “brain” glasses and colored filters have been gradually doing, RP says the punctal plugs placed in the tear ducts of the eyes during a second visit to the Mind-Eye clinic in Northbrook, Illinois had the most immediate impact. “Dr. Adams told me my head injuries had put me in chronic fight-or-flight mode. I was constantly stressed. But, after the plugs were inserted, I felt almost instant relief; the plugs helped my nervous system relax.”
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For Hallie, “brain” glasses – as well as a set of punctal plugs inserted in the tear ducts of both eyes — have since quieted, or significantly lessened, many of her worst symptoms. “I have not been nauseous for months. I am also sleeping better, am less explosive, my reading skills are coming back, and my relationships, especially with my mother, have greatly improved,” she says. “The plugs seem to have taken Hallie out of the “fight-or-flight” mode that she had been stuck in,” adds Deborah Zelinsky.
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In fact, the LaGrange Highlands, Ill, resident says she was tested and diagnosed with dyslexia – difficulty in processing words and, in her case, numbers, too – at age 20. Three years later, she received punctal plugs (tear plugs) at the Mind-Eye Institute to help resolve a problem with dry eyes, but the plugs appeared to do more than that.
“They seem to have wiped out my dyslexia, too. After the plugs were inserted, I started to comprehend what I was reading. I could spell. I could understand punctuation. I was able to do math,” she says.
“When the college required a re-evaluation of my learning issues to maintain my eligibility for specific accommodations, the same independent company that did the first test was stumped. I showed no evidence of dyslexia on the second test. The company said it had never experienced anything like that before,” Erika recalls.
What continues to amaze Erika is being told she is no longer dyslectic, after being diagnosed with the disorder earlier. “At the time, Dr. Zelinsky did a kind of EKG of my eyes to check eye movement and then inserted the tear plugs,” Erika says.
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This is also interesting. Sounds like some sort of acupressure.
Pearce
Jedi Master
I'm trying to get caught up on all the information in this thread and others about NO, but how are we feeling about this technology today?
The background of why I ask is because I've been working as a clinical Licensed Massage Therapist for this last year, and I work now at a Chiropractic office which also offers a whole range of alternative technology and modalities for various things. Lucia lights, vibration beds, meditation etc. But to my knowledge I don't recall having seen a Neuroptimal device or similar.
We do have a biomagnetism practitioner but no neurofeedback and I am curious if just anyone is able to become a trainer and offer NO in their community or do you need a degree of some kind? There is a trainer certification course that happens regularly about 3 hours from me, their website seems to say that anyone can become a trainer, but is that true?
It seems like it would fit well in this clinic I'm at, and I'm curious if I could bring this on as another service offering as I feel it would get positive reception with the clientele we have, but I would love to receive the opinions of the forum here before proceeding.
Thanks
The background of why I ask is because I've been working as a clinical Licensed Massage Therapist for this last year, and I work now at a Chiropractic office which also offers a whole range of alternative technology and modalities for various things. Lucia lights, vibration beds, meditation etc. But to my knowledge I don't recall having seen a Neuroptimal device or similar.
We do have a biomagnetism practitioner but no neurofeedback and I am curious if just anyone is able to become a trainer and offer NO in their community or do you need a degree of some kind? There is a trainer certification course that happens regularly about 3 hours from me, their website seems to say that anyone can become a trainer, but is that true?
It seems like it would fit well in this clinic I'm at, and I'm curious if I could bring this on as another service offering as I feel it would get positive reception with the clientele we have, but I would love to receive the opinions of the forum here before proceeding.
Thanks
NO (dynamic feedback) - as opposed to classical (linear) feedback doesn’t need any trained practitioner. It is a fully automated system. You can learn how to use it in about 5 minutes (where to place the electrodes), and you’re good to go.
The problem with classical (linear) feedback (that I dabbled in years ago) is that it requires a lot of experience, as you have to adjust the training parameter manually, based on a questionnaire of symptoms together with your experience - so in the end it is a judgement call. None of that applies to NO.
I have had my own unit for some time now, but haven’t used it in recent months, but I still think it is superior to the classical, linear feedback - unless you have a highly experienced practitioner.
The only thing to take into account if thinking of going down the route of offering this modality to customers is that this method needs a certain ‘saturation’ in probably the majority of subjects, or in other words, the beneficial effect is usually not immediate - so a course of regular use over a certain period of time is usually required to observe noticeable results (it took me about 20 sessions to notice the first positive effects). So it might be slower to act compared to the classical feedback method, but it is gentler and there is less room for error.
Pearce
Jedi Master
Appreciate the feeback! That was pretty much my understanding of non-linear as well, that it is self-facilitating in a sense.
A lot of the clientele that come to the clinic come often enough for progressive treatment that I think frequency wouldn't be an issue for most of them, but yes I understand it isn't a one-off treatment either.
After 20 sessions, would you say you noticed enough carryover effect that if you didn't own one, would you continue to seek treatment?
That is of course individual - I felt that after maybe 10 more sessions the effect had been maximised, no more additional changes were noticeable to me after say session 30. So I then changed over to a ‘maintenance’ dose of one session every few days (where the first 20 sessions were back to back), kind of haphazardly, just when I felt like it. That seemed to work quite well, but eventually I stopped using it, for no apparent reason, or just because … life!
It also seems like the effect gradually diminishes, and at some stage you might feel compelled to enter into another treatment cycle - in myself it then seemed that this ‘saturation’ effect happened faster, as if you had already grooved a channel and just needed a quick update.
But I have heard from people who noticed a massive improvement after only one session. I guess this also depends on what your underlying state of health is - I didn’t have any particular issues I wanted resolved, I did it mostly out of curiosity. But if you have say a massive autonomous dysregulation, or massive anxiety issues, then maybe the effects will be noticeable much faster.
I think adding NO to the regime would be very beneficial to a lot of customers.
I wrote before on the forum how reading the romance novels improved my sleep. It makes me feel more rested for some reason. Reading usual books doesn't have this effect. The effect is long term, but if I don't read them for some time my brain goes back to my usual state where I cannot get a restful sleep. When that happens, it takes me a couple of days of reading to improve my sleep.
But recently I decided to change the position where I am reading because if I read it on my usual place during the night I cannot see the paper properly because the night lamp is sitting opposite of me, so the light doesn't fall directly on the paper. So I decided to sit next to the lamp, where the lamp is next to my right shoulder.
And I noticed that in this setup, the effect on my brain is much quicker. I don't have to read a lot to get improvement in sleep. And I wondered why is that? There is nothing special in the chair or anything else that I did. But then I remembered this topic of angle of light falling on our retina, and then a thought came to me that perhaps I am feeling the effect of that phenomenon? Because if the lamp is on my right side, when the light rays hit the paper which I am looking at, the reflected light rays would fall on the left side of my retina, which would then stimulate my right brain hemisphere.
So instead of using the prisms, we could be using the position of light and some surface for their reflection, such as a book, for a stimulation of our brain.
But recently I decided to change the position where I am reading because if I read it on my usual place during the night I cannot see the paper properly because the night lamp is sitting opposite of me, so the light doesn't fall directly on the paper. So I decided to sit next to the lamp, where the lamp is next to my right shoulder.
And I noticed that in this setup, the effect on my brain is much quicker. I don't have to read a lot to get improvement in sleep. And I wondered why is that? There is nothing special in the chair or anything else that I did. But then I remembered this topic of angle of light falling on our retina, and then a thought came to me that perhaps I am feeling the effect of that phenomenon? Because if the lamp is on my right side, when the light rays hit the paper which I am looking at, the reflected light rays would fall on the left side of my retina, which would then stimulate my right brain hemisphere.
So instead of using the prisms, we could be using the position of light and some surface for their reflection, such as a book, for a stimulation of our brain.
msasa79
Jedi Master
Apart from immediate physical circumstances, have you perhaps had a look at the emotional and psychological situation? Or even maybe the spiritual dimension of the being?
As much as our bodies get rest and regenerate during the sleep, the soul and psyche might benefit even more from that recharging and in a sense liberating activity. FWIW.
NO really saved me when I was in a state of PTSD due to long term attacks both physical and psychological. I did a lot of sessions, can't remember how many, but well over 50 I'm sure. And it's there if I need it, which happens occasionally.
Well, being a slow reader, I am reading this book for quite some time. And I noticed that something was different only when I switched to this new position. So my guess is that it's something in the light setup, and not in the book itself. The book is fine, but nothing special.
Small correction: it appears that light that falls on the left side of the retina would stimulate the left hemisphere, not right, as can be seen in my post #1,052.
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