New show: NewsReal with Joe & Niall

Part 2 of the Sunday April 28 News Real talk show with Joe, Niall and Adam:

Joe: He said they've got $300 million worth of investments from people in that app now, and all it does is invest in what Nancy Pelosi invests in, to track her investments and then 'go, okay, we'll have some of that too.' Thanks. The one that she did it for the children. She's giving all that money to the children.

Niall: Trump's tariffs are a farce.

Joe: They're considering slashing tariffs.

Niall: Remember, he declared this on April 2nd. The month hasn't ended. This is farcical. I think it's a sign of the times. We live in a new world. China's just like, no, whatever.

Joe: Trump administration, considering slashing its steep tariffs in a bid to de-escalate tensions, one senior White House official said the levies will likely come down to between 50 and 65% from 140 million, from 145. Maybe it was more than that. Anyway, 140, 150. That's called the art of the blink rather than the art of the deal, you know? Yeah.

Adam: No, that was what I was gonna say earlier. Was that I I didn't know what to think about the tariffs because the last time I checked it was this morning and I've blinked since then. Mmm so And I've blinked a few more times just now so I don't know where it could be 70,000%. It could be 20% anywhere in between don't know. Mmm. I agree though, it's a bit of a farce.

Niall: He's negotiating with himself.

Joe: Yeah, it's pretty basic but I'm going to give you a kind of overview and it's generally true, this graphic about US-China trade.

U.S. China trade
So it shows U.S. imports from China and then what U.S. imports from China and what China imports from the US. So what the U.S. imports from China is mainly electrical and, I mean there's other things down the list but these are the main ones, electrical and electronic equipment, computers and servers, industrial machinery and rare earth minerals. What China imports from the U.S. is soybeans, meat and edible offal, sorghum, wheat and corn.

So the question is given that the U.S. imports stuff on the left from China and if it slaps a bunch of tariffs, like a million percent tariffs on China, then none of those products on the left are coming to America anymore. So America has to look elsewhere for them. Who else makes the quantity of those products on the left, or makes them in the quantity that America would need to keep everybody happy, i.e. No one, right? Whereas China importing from the US, soybeans, meat, sorghum corn.

If China opposed reciprocal tariffs on the U.S. of a million percent. That means none of those soybeans, meat and sorghum and corn are coming from America anymore. But do you think there's other places in the world that China can get soybean, meat and sorghum and corn from? Do you think anybody else produces those?

Adam: If you think you can just replace American grits with Brazilian grits. Genetically modified American grace. If you think you can just replace that with any old like corn you get from Brazil Tajikistan Go ahead. Hmm. Go ahead and try go ahead and try go ahead.

Niall: I'll call your bluff.

Joe: Let me know how that goes.

Niall: I Have heard that Apple is gonna move big time to India to get away from it all. Well to help as a workaround. But, you know, Apple makes the announcement. What do you mean?

Joe: It's a workaround? No, they're meant to be going back home.

Niall: Right.

Joe: That's not a good enough answer. That's not an answer.

Niall: It's India.

Joe: It's like Trump's like, what part of make America manufacturing again? That's mama.

Adam: Make America manufacturing again.

Joe: Mama. Mama. Make America Manufacturing Again.

Niall: Maybe it's a half measure. But it takes 10 years to get it up and running.

Joe: That's no good. It has to come back home. Why would you do 10 years up and running when you should bring it back to America for 10 years up and running? Made in America. What part of made in America did Abel not understand? It's pretty simple. Stop making all your products in China or any of those other shithole countries, right? Stop doing it. Have some respect. Have some national pride pride have some patriotism and stop making those countries for super cheap and bring it back to America and make them for super expensive.

Yeah all right just do it and it may be rich and it's crickets and then you will own nothing and be happy and no one would be able to buy anything. Yeah and Yeah, it's all funny. Trump's funny. Funny in a kind of like peculiar way. Did you see that little Jewish fella, Witkoff? He was in about 10 days ago. He's been around all over the place, Witkoff. Apparently he's a jack of all trades. He does everything.

But he was in France. In the Elysian Palace, no less, there last week. Ten days ago talking to Macron about Ukraine or something and Russia. And here's what he said. He walks into the Elysian Palace, this venerable, you know, palace with great historical value and relevance to French culture and history. And here's what he said. Have a listen.

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Steve Witkoff at Elysée Palace

Steve Witkoff: You know what this looks like? This actually looks like President Trump's club at Mar-a-Lago.

French official: Really? (Laughter)

Steve Witkoff: Yeah the gold details.

Niall: "The gold details".

Steve Witkoff: It's fabulous what it looks like. He actually works on it himself. He's like a designer. He's like an architect you know. He works on it himself.

French official: But you were there before. You were there for the Notre Dame ceremony with...

Steve Witkoff: Oh it was fabulous. Is that where we are now?

French official: You were on the first floor.

Steve Witkoff: I was upstairs, yeah. That was a great evening. Really great evening.

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Joe: "You know what this looks like? This historical building. This looks like Trump's golf club. It's very, very similar. I mean the gold, that fake gold detailing and stuff, you know, Trump does that himself. He actually does the goat leaf himself. He's like an architect really. I love him. He's my best friend. Forever."
Yeah, so, you know, even though he's Jewish, he's American at heart, and that's what Americans do when they come to Europe. They stick their big feet in their mouth and don't even know that they've done it. I think they're being awesome.

Niall: What would have made that perfect would be if he followed through in his thoughts. You wonder if he was also thinking, but maybe he thought better of saying it. It's good to see that our innovations and styles in the U.S. are catching on over here and there. Yeah. No, it's the reverse Steve.

Joe: Oh, did you guys copy this from Mar-a-Lago? Because it's very, very similar. Because Mar-a-Lago has been around for a long time, over 30 years. How old is this place?

Niall: Anyway, did you- Weren't we here before?

Joe: Where's Notre Dame? What country is this?

Adam: Where am I?

Joe: Where the fuck am I? Again, untouchable, I mean this, I don't know. It's just like, people complicate it and all that kind of stuff, but it is a bit of a clown show, clown shoe, clown shoe shoe shoe show. Because it is very elementary. There's nothing complicated about it, you know, Trump tries to make it complicated at all. I'm gonna put these tariffs and then take them away and put the unions on blah blah blah. But we talked about that before.

What he's actually trying to do is just basically get threatened countries with tariffs in order to get them to join him in an anti-Chinese alliance and China is basically doing the same thing. They're trying to negotiate with other countries to make an alliance against America. But this guy is an example, an American who just explains how. Initially anyway, the tariffs that Trump has now maybe going to rescind or take away have already been affecting him.

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Guy on Tikok: All right, I hate asking for help. I'm not asking for any handouts, but I'm a small business owner that is directly being affected by the 104% tariff that has been put on China. I import alloy wheels for cars and I do somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to 15 containers a year which is a small business in regards to this industry. At 104% I am absolutely going to implode and will not last six months. So with that said I'm asking is there anybody out there that has connections with manufacturing facilities, specifically alloy wheels, either in the United States or outside in these lesser tariffed countries like Mexico, Indonesia, Thailand, India.

I need to find another source. I've emailed a lot of these companies and cannot get a response. And I just don't know if it's because I'm a small business or what exactly it is. So if anybody's out there that can help or shed some light, maybe provide some information that would be helpful. I would really greatly appreciate it, because if not, it's just the small business here that's going to go under and I'll be back to digging ditches again, which I'm not scared to do, but it's a little harder to do with a wife, two kids and at 45 years old. So let me know if you guys have any suggestions. It's very much appreciated. Thank you.

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Joe: China ùade all the alloy wheels. So that's an example of an analyst I showed you earlier on, the kind of things where it's difficult for Americans to just turn around and get those products in quantities that are necessary for American businesses from other countries other than China. Whereas China can turn around and get some non-GMO corn or beef from Brazil.

Niall: They've screwed the pooch. It's not just that the stuff has ended up being monopolized over there in one country. It's so entrenched and it's been going on so long, the capability, the know-how to do it is also exclusively there, or more or less. Maybe you could find, actually, you'll probably find an alternative to Vietnam, Thailand, like you mentioned, but this is an entrenched five-decade-long process that now means nobody has the knowledge anymore to start it again.

Joe: Somebody was talking about that, about how China China went about doing that over the past 20, 30 years basically with the Chinese government just threw money at like a bunch of different people for one particular, one particular product let's say, one particular product line, one particular type of product. And they did that across all types of products. They just give funding to not lavish funding but just basic funding for people to come up with, you know. The best way of producing and the fastest most efficient and best quality of this particular product.

And then like so like you know dozens of people different like small companies would build up and would start and then and try and produce that. And then the winner or the winners one or two winners or one or two or three winners who produced the best product would then continue and the rest would just fall away. And they've done that across the whole board basically to the point that then they so they have refined it you know down to it's remarkable best practices like.

Niall: It's like communist capitalism yeah internal incentives. It's

Adam: Like the the ellen brown's book the web of debt uh she talks a bit about that where the the chinese uh central bank will just create money to give to producers to produce a thing and then because it's uh it's not based on like Chinese bonds or anything like that like they can just like write it often and it doesn't matter. And they just kept doing that.

Joe: With a view to capturing the world market basically for that product base. Yeah.

Adam: And there's like theoretically nothing stopping America from doing the same thing.

Joe: Except everybody would have to take cutting their wages.

Adam: Well.

Joe: Just a little bit.

Adam: Maybe.

Joe: But here's, well for those who need something a bit more simplified and a bit more entertaining in terms of an explanation of what Trump's tariffs are. This guy who I really like actually and you know appropriately he's Chinese explains it very well. Go ahead and listen to this.

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Video on X speaker 1: I've been watching you eating a lot of me much more than me. This is not fair. This is not fair.

Video on X speaker 2: What are you talking about, dude? This is hot pot like we share.

Video on X speaker 1: No, no, no, no. This is not hot pot. I'm the boss, right? You've taken a lot of advantage of me. This is a huge disaster, a total imbalance. I can't let it happen anymore. This is after stuffing.

Video on X speaker 2: All right. This is the last plate of our meat. I mean, I don't...

Video on X speaker 1: That's the last plate, right.

Video on X speaker 2: I'm pretty full anyways. How about you take six slices and I take four.

Video on X speaker 1: No, no, I take nine. You take one. I'm the boss. I make. Stop arguing with me. I don't have time for this.

Video on X speaker 2: How about you take seven, then I take three?

Video on X speaker 1: No, no. That's it. That's it. Go ahead, John. Give me all the pepper. Give me all the pepper. Give me all the pepper. Thank you. Thank you. What about now? What about now?

Video on X speaker 2: You know I can't handle spice.

Video on X speaker 1: If I don't get most of it, you get none of it.

Video on X speaker 2: Well this is not even emotional damage

Video on X speaker 1: I know, I know. I don't eat spice, but you know what? I'd rather ruin the meal than letting you win. That's my philosophy, right? You know what? You're done. You're done. We're finished. No more food for you. Let's go. Let's go. Check, check, please. Check. Where's Ryan? Hey, can I take this to go, please? We don't waste food, eh? We don't waste food.

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Joe: There you go.

Niall: Exactly. That reminds me of your analogy about the share of the pie and multipolarity.

Joe: Yeah.

Niall: There's the U.S. at the head of the table. Others just want to be able to sit at the table. It's like, no, no. Okay. They're sitting, whatever.

Joe: They're not eating.

Niall: No, no. It's mine. And if I can't have it, no one gets any.

Joe: Yeah. And it's bring necessity because, you know. Mark, I can't live in the lifestyle that it's been accustomed to. I continue to live in the lifestyle that it's been accustomed to with a lot of people. If there's a more equitable sharing of the pie. So it's existential, you know? And I should decide to go on a diet and restructure everything.

Niall: So we saw prior to that the video of the guy who's an example of a small business owner is directly affected. I mean, would potentially be wiped out. This week, the CEOs of Walmart, Target, and Home Depot met with Trump at the White House to plead with him to not do his tariffs against China because they'd be wrecked. Basically, their whole business model is wrecked.

Joe: Don't tariff me, bro.

Niall: You know, buy this, get 90% free, so everyone buys bulk, which is practical. It's cheap as well. But that's largely now thanks to China. If you want to cut off the...

Joe: Yeah. What about the Epstein files? Give us an update on the Epstein files there, Adam, since you're... Could you finger on that?

Adam: On the pulse?

Joe: The pulse, yeah.

Adam: Well, we still don't have them.

Joe: What do you mean?

Adam: They're still working on redacting the names of all the victims which we already have in order to protect the people we already know. And that's just taking a lot longer than you would think.

Joe: Yeah. Maybe maybe they're trying to figure out. It's a bit more involved rather than just reacting names it's about and going through the names and finding out well those people what what they did with Epstein you know was there any criminal activity or or were they just hanging out with him because he made good gin and tonics or something. No. Well, he was a financial advisor, so he posed as a financial advisor. So a lot of people got involved, especially the great and the good, you know, the so-called famous people.

Adam: He was a networker.

Joe: Yeah, and a lot of famous people, well, on purpose, right? So he spread his net pretty wide and under that cover of, I don't know, it was a cover, but he really did actually provide financial offshoring services to know how to to a lot of famous people actors and that kind of stuff. Harry Potter actually it's one of them. What's his name? Daniel Radcliffe. So people like him you know you need to figure out. Well was Daniel over there just getting some massage?

No some information on on how to you know offshore his how to wash his dirty trans transporting money in the Virgin Islands or something or in the Caribbean or whether he was doing something awesome. So we have to, that implies a deeper dig you know into what was actually going on I suppose. But there's also obviously the fact that there's people who were up to no good and who don't want their name released and don't want to be exposed as being a pedo or something.

And then Trump has the choice of whether or not, if he has this access, Trump has a choice of whether or not to actually go for the full truth-telling type thing and put it all out there, as he says, or whether it's, well, hang on a minute, there's leverage here. In the same way that Epstein and the Israeli intelligence set that whole thing up in the beginning to get leverage over those people, now in terms of the potential exposure of those people, There's also leverage for the people who might expose it, right? I mean, the Israelis were using it as blackmail in a certain sense, or pretty much exactly like that.

But now in terms of when the information is with another person, another person, like say someone in the Trump administration has that information, then they have to decide whether or not. They want to continue to use that as kind of blackmail or leverage or whatever you want to call it. Then there's other people who are just saying that Trump would probably not want to. Reveal the information at all. He doesn't want necessarily want leverage over them but he doesn't want information about that person because it would look bad on him because he's probably their best friend. Like now for example.

Niall: If it's an Israeli intelligence operation it's a matter of national security. Case closed.

Joe: Yeah, we can't reveal the fact that it was funded or started by the Israeli intelligence from the get-go, because that would look bad and there'd be a big outcry. It would look bad for Israel and Israel, but anti-Semitism would go to level six, you know what I mean? Yeah. And we can't have that because Trump doesn't want any anti-Semitism.

Adam: Well, that's why James Lindsay is saying not to release them, because then it would be bad for the rise in anti-Semitism.

Joe: Would be bad for America's unsyncable aircraft car in the Middle East. And then there's...

Niall: That woman, the first most famous whistleblower, victim... Virginia Dufray died by suicide.

Joe: Yeah, she was hit by a bus.

Niall: That was a month ago, but she's actually died from a pill overdose now. Supposedly. Everyone's blink is, oh my God, they got her. But I think Ryan Dawson is probably right. He was following the ins and outs of what happened to her. There isn't really a motive to kill her at this point, because she's already out there. She's already taken down a bunch of people by being... He's screwed. Obviously Epstein's dead. Brunel's dead. Maxwell's in jail. And he said it's more prosaic. There probably is suicide because she was really and he showed her social media posts.

She'd managed to rebuild her life after years of abuse, was married for 22 years, had three kids, but got divorced earlier this year against her will. Her husband wanted to, I guess. Super depressed, has a car accident, hit by a bus. They discover she's on death's door with kidney failure, which Dawson's speculated maybe because she's taken so many pills to cope with. The traumas she went through as a teenager. And so, yeah, it is suicide. But he's like the only one saying that. But he follows the case closely.

Adam: Not only does he follow the case, he's one of the only people to have actually... One of the reasons why he has the Epstein list that he has is because he actually contacted the people that are in the court documents, like all the witnesses and things. He actually got in contact with them and interviewed them.

Niall: Yeah, well said. One of his things was, can you all shut up? Saying that they got her because the other women are contacting me right now saying they're freaking out. Are they coming at my risk as well?

Joe: But this kind of thing is bread and butter. For intelligent season has been for a very long time. You can go back. You know 60 70 80 90 100 maybe thousands of years who knows. But the whole um getting you know having inside or dirty information on the dirty deeds of certain influential people whatever has been a it's a standard way of of politicking you know. Like this is uh there's a headline from some rolling stone. Actually in 2022 Trump bragged he had intelligence on Macron's sex life. The FBI sees the document with info on the French president during a more legal race.

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Niall: Yeah, but that that would be interesting. Do you think that could be like something? and maybe not unlikely to come up, but that could be something in his mind when he's wondering how to handle Israel and Iran.

Joe: What?

Niall: Well he's got, he knows things about the Epstein files. He knows who's who or knows a way that it can be shown that it's an Israeli op. And so that's, it's part of the whole package. He doesn't separate it from the Iran issue, the Middle East and oil and multipolarity. It's all, it's another egg in that same basket. You know what I mean?

Joe: What would he use it for?

Niall: Well, leverage.

Joe: Well, the Israelis. Yeah. We want to try and. Played the Israelis at their own game like don't win every time you know.

Niall: Are they unassailable?

Joe: Spy rings in America going back decades like the first first on. They were the first on that kind of thing like i've explained before. Should I explain it again? how um how? it's totally understandable why israel the israelis would would do that kind of thing and that's therefore not anti-Semitic. No, no, no, no, no.

Niall: I thought you were bringing the Macron file up because that's something that he has in the back of his mind and filed here because it's day-to-day useful to pull out in geopolitical deal-making with France, with the EU, whatever.

Joe: That Macron's a queer.

Niall: No, probably that he's worse than that.

Adam: Pedo oriented.

Joe: Who knows? Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. One thing Macron definitely is, is stanky. It's official according to AIDS in the Elysian Palace. Just click on the picture there so we can see a bit bigger. Macron's fragrance overpowering AIDS in the Elysian Palace.

Emmanuel Macron

Niall: This reminds me of Alex Jones ranting about his insider sources telling him that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have a really strong, peculiar, repugnant smell. Staffers are like, oh!

Joe: And that's why Macron wears so much cologne that his aides sent his presence before he enters the room. So you get the smell of Brigitte often.

Adam: The dirty old man smell.

Joe: Yeah.

Niall: That chest has been modified. There's no way he's that hairy, is there?

Adam: And it's just that... It looks like a nice clean neckline of hair.

Joe: He shaves it around there so it doesn't go up his neck. He doesn't want a neck beard. He does like the Muslims.

Niall: The good news is the one Trump deal that is still on is the Ukraine deal. It's still on. The Russians are still saying the right things. Now it's kind of It's still in Trumpian fashion. It still comes to you in scattered noises, schizophrenically. So one day he says something positive, and the next day he says, literally from his social post, stop Vladimir. There's no need for this. And then the next day, more sanctions against Russia. And then the next day, Witkoff is again at the Kremlin going, this is good. It's so good to see you again, Vladimir.

And the Russians is, oh, that was a first. This guy, Sergei Victorovich. Was interviewed on U.S. media the first time in ten years on CBS And it went, you know fairly civilly. They spoke in English and all that. So again, that's another little sign that It's still there Solid. But then there's gripes. Just that actually. The very latest I saw today was that Trump is griping that he apparently said to Zelensky when they had their tête-à-tête in Saint Peter's that he's open to the idea that Putin is just tapping him along.

Joe: But you can't believe what Trump says because of his order of the deal. His strategic ambiguity.

Niall: He says four things in one day and they're all extremes.

Adam: He literally presents his own ceasefire deal, which when it got leaked by Zelensky or whoever it was that was talking about it, it more or less seemed to just be what the Russians wanted. And they've been saying the whole time where the Russians keep Crimea. The, what is it, the line for Ukraine, like the border stops at the current, you know, lines of engagement that Ukraine doesn't go into NATO and that there's no like NATO peacekeepers. I mean, it's just...

Niall: It's what, yeah, because Russia has all the cards. Russia won the war. This is another thing. It should be plastered everywhere. It's a fact and yet we're still running on the inertia of Pax Americana. Russia won the war. China just won the trade war in less than four weeks. Russia just won the Ukraine war and the Houthis are really putting the U.S. military to the test. The Houthis. It's a new world baby, it's totally like...

Joe: The Russians are, I think the Russians are, the Americans are trying to, Trump is trying to, in Ukraine. He's trying to get it done quickly, you know, it's all about. Let's stop this quickly, it's going to be my first 24 hours. He said he would have an end to the war in 24 hours. Obviously he was only speaking kind of, you know, metaphorically or something like that, but... He wants it done ASAP and he's getting antsy and wants it done, but he kind of wants it done because and the question is why aren't the?

He's made enough noises saying that Crimea is not going back to Russia or not going back to Ukraine. Crimea is Russian and basically enough of the media have been coming out with leaked information saying that that we've frozen not frozen but along the along the front line basically. The territory that Russia has captured would be Russian. That's the deal. And no NATO and probably, you know, the only other things the Russians care about really is like no European military force in Ukraine. That's the red line. Not happening.

Trump would be happy enough for that as well because he just wants to walk away and the Europeans on their own wouldn't be up to do up to up to doing that. You know they talk talk a big a good game but then they back down and say well probably we won't we need an american backstop. Yeah so and that's not gonna happen. So it's all pretty clear what the deal is. But I think the sticking point is that the american trump's just trying to work out with uh with europeans with Zelensky that little twerp. Um the the russians want those four territories all of them on their original boundaries. They don't actually control all of, they control pretty much all of Luhansk, about probably 80% of Donetsk and then a bit less of the other two regions out of the south, Kherson and Zaporizh.

So the idea is that the sticking point at the moment seems to be that the Ukrainian forces need to withdraw from the rest of those oblasts because they were historically Russian oblasts. Well, they've incorporated them into Russia, so they need to go.

Niall: They've legally said that these are ours.

Joe: They are, they're part of the Russian Federation as far as Russia is concerned. So they need to leave those, withdraw from those and that's the last kind of sticking point and Trump will be more than happy probably to do that, but Zelensky is emboldened by the Europeans and particularly the Brits. Saying no we're not leaving we're not giving those four territories to Russia and we're taking Crimea.

Yeah and he was asked in some interview recently there he said like what concessions would you be willing to make actually for peace? and he said well the very fact that we'd be willing after a complete ceasefire unconditional ceasefire right now the very fact that we would be willing to sit down and talk to those terrorist Russians is a massive compromise. In the first place. That's compromised enough that we'll actually talk to them. They're not getting any of our land. We want Crimea back, and they should be lucky that we'll even talk to them.

Adam: So they have to give Crimea back. They have to give all the four regions back. The Russians have to rebuild all of Ukraine.

Joe: Yes, and they have to dismantle the Kerch Bridge.

Adam: And My compromise is talking to you after you've done all those things.

Joe: Yes.

Adam: Yeah Oh like that just that brings me to his his this little shit. Oh You just want to throw him into a meat grinder. He he says that he wants to ask.

Niall: Yeah.

Adam: Yeah Zelensky We hope to be at least as robust as those provided to Israel. He's basically saying that he he wants israeli style like eternal eternal and and unending uh assistance from the us allah the same thing that you know the us does to Israel. He thinks he can get that yeah from the U.S.

Niall: The ukrainian mindset is mental huh. They really do think that they're like up there with the jews. Of course, he is yours himself. But even besides the religious issue, they've had this thing that I think it's been conveyed to them how important Ukraine is. Maybe they have good objective reasons for it. I mean, Brzezinski wrote his grand chessboard and who gets Ukraine rules the world or has a great say in the heartland Eurasian map. He's hanging still his hat. On that being so important.

Joe: It's not so important anymore.

Niall: But it's not.

Joe: The world has changed since Brzezinski was talking in the 70s you know. But so what, that's obviously, that's all just hubris from Zelenski and he's going to be left kind of high and dry I think. But the main sticking point is Brits and I mean because the war that they would be forced to retreat from those the rest of those four oblasts those three oblasts really two or three, the Ukrainians would if They stopped getting funding and weapons shipped primarily at this point from, I mean, the Americans are still sending some weapons to them.

Trump's playing a different game there, you know, and Trump's basically like, look, as long as you're continuing to send any kind of weapons or provide any kind of material or like physical or other assistance to the Ukrainians in fighting and continuing to fight and stay in those regions, well then we're still at war. If you want to end this war, you go away. You leave. You stop funding. Stop warming and go away and you get your European friends particularly British to do the same and this will be over very quickly and you'll get what you want and we get those four regions and Ukraine. Then we work at it afterwards. And that's the sticking point where Trump is like dithering on whether or not like to do that.

You know what I mean and he's under pressure from other people to to do that and he doesn't necessarily have control over the weapons that will be supplied and assistance will be given to Ukraine by the U.S. because we should remember that there's also a parallel structure. There's a deep state type structure going on. The CIA, the secret team have their own fucking black budgets and all that kind of stuff and they can keep that kind of stuff going to some extent you know.

Niall: And while this is hanging on that issue someone in quotes is still assassinating Russian generals in broad daylight in Moscow with car bombs. Russian generals who was actually photographed at some of the high-level meetings as an aid to Putin before the war started. That's one way to, yeah, convince the Russians, you'll be lucky if we even sit down with you, you terrorists. Boom! We just killed one of you guys in the terrorist attack. What are you gonna do now? I mean, that kind of, no wonder the Russians are implacable about it all, you know? You get a sense of how confident they are in their surprising revelation that North Korean troops are, in fact, on the front line. I thought that was Ukrainian propaganda.

Joe: Not in front line, only in Kursk.

Adam: Well, yeah, on the front line in Kursk, though.

Joe: They were only fighting in Kursk.

Niall: Okay. They didn't cross.

Joe: On Russian territory, they weren't in Ukraine.

Niall: Okay. For fighting and dying.

Joe: Yeah, the Ukrainians denied that. But the Russians denied it at the time. Like, that's just Russian propaganda, blah, blah. You can't even find one North Korean, blah, blah, blah. But obviously they were. But that's fog of war, right?

Niall: Yeah. And just before this admission, Kiev claimed that the latest barrage of missile strikes in Kiev last week were North Korean ballistic missiles. I wonder because they were obviously trying to leverage that as a another anti-russian talking point because it showed how weak they were. They needed backward peasant commie North Korea or something like that or to show how evil the work was. Russia's and the axis of evil. Something said. They saw it as a game for them but then Russia just undercuts it all and said yeah they're fighting with us yeah and we're gonna win.

Adam: Did think I saw the. There was a video from yesterday. I think of the guys at Saran and I thought they had an interesting analysis talking about why the Europeans continue despite all Obvious reason that they are so implacable on the Ukraine issue and their point was that it's existential for the EU. And the Brits aka Starmer and the others Want to undo brexit. And in order to undo brexit they need to keep ukraine going long enough to keep The eu together in order to be able to do it.

Niall: Yeah, something like that undo to rejoin the eu.

Joe: Yeah But they can just rejoin the eu. Yeah, why is it dependent on Ukraine?

Adam: Well, because the eu has to be together long enough for them to do it.

Joe: Oh, so I want to kind of keep the eu together basically. Yeah, that's what you're saying. Yeah Well, that's not going to go anywhere. I think there must be some other reason why they're doing it.

Niall: The West is falling apart.

Joe: They're just jockeying for position, basically. And I think, to be honest, what they're actually doing is the focus is on having some kind of control over some part of Ukraine, rather than giving it all to Russia. It's about borders and all that kind of stuff, and where the eventual borders are and different things. But it's not. All I talk about, you know, if Russia wins, it'll be terrible for Europe and all that kind of stuff. Not really.

They've created a bad situation themselves where they're going to have... They don't... Basically, they're so arrogant and narcissistic and psychopathic that they can't countenance or deal with the possibility that They will have lost against, they'll have initiated this war against Russia, they'll have been aggressive and unfriendly and very mean and etcetera etcetera to Russia. Sorry the relationship with Russia. Now Russia, if Russia wins and with the help of Trump.

Basically, if Russia kind of wins in Ukraine and it has the upper hand, well then it's the Europeans who'll have to go and say look, really sorry about calling you all those bad names all these years and stuff, could you please give us some of your gas, you know what I mean? And they don't want to be in that subservient position. To Russia, even though they weren't beforehand. They created that situation themselves, thinking in their hubris that they were going to win and dominate Russia, but now it's looking like it's going in the opposite direction. And they just hate that thought of having to go cap and hand to Russia.

Niall: Yeah.

Adam: Their thought was that it was going to be denial of reality.

Niall: They always were subservient to Russia.

Joe: Not really.

Niall: They were Germany's economic power. I know but in the back of their mind they knew it was dependence and Trump would mock them for that.

Joe: But that was never, that was all created by the the neoliberals beforehand, that idea that there was some kind of a this was terrible to be too dependent on Russia and blah blah. Russia would use this and that and the other Russia would never have any intention. Russia basically, what about Saudi Arabia? The countries that are totally dependent on Saudi Arabia or on the Middle Eastern gas, are they all cocks for the Middle East? Because you, I mean, Europe doesn't have a lot of natural resource, doesn't have a lot of gas, doesn't have a lot of oil.

It never had, since the Industrial Revolution, had to get it from somewhere else, had to buy it from somewhere else. Does that immediately make you subservient because you have to buy a material that you don't have? I mean, that cuts to the heart of like trade, you know what I mean, like global trade. I mean, it's totally natural that in global trade. Some countries have this resource, other countries have this resource, and you exchange them, you know what I mean? Or you buy them.

But, I mean, sure, some resources are more important and more critical, but it depends on the country you're buying it from, you know what I mean? Whether or not they lord it over you or use it, but that was the meme that they put out there, the bullshit line they put out to try and start this whole conflict was to say Russia's going to use its energy to, you know, dominate Europe and blackmail Europe and threaten Europe and all that kind of stuff. And they had never any intention to do that. All they ever wanted to do was sell gas and oil to Europe. There you go. We got some. You want some? Buy it. Good price. Really low price. There you go. And then we'll buy your cars. We'll buy your Mercedes and your BMWs. That sound okay to you? No, I'm being oppressed by having to buy your gas. It's like, really? Just buy some gas.

Niall: Yeah.

Joe: That meme has been put out there as part of the war propaganda. It was never that way. I don't think they were ever subservient, and if they ever thought they were, it was in their own minds.

Niall: Yes, that's what I'm getting at. It's a kind of annoying suspicion that the good times we've had as the golden billion has been at the expense of people who've been gracious enough to give us all their natural resources, then we make the high-end products and we sell it back to them. Plus, we find ways to block them from developing their own industries, so we never have competition. But you can only do that for so long, and then they do start to develop alternatives.

China starts to build its own airline fleets, and now both Boeing and Airbus and that nice little duopoly they had going, are like, fuck. So we gotta do something. It's a neoliberal order dying and the key to that is Europe doesn't have the energy, doesn't have sufficient national resources to be autarchic and produce all the surplus high-tech consumables that it has in recent decades been able to produce and sell to the world. It can't do that. We're going to a new world where The resources are key.

Joe: Well, they've been key for a very long time. Yeah. And it worked okay. People fought over them, all that kind of stuff, but it stabilized. And Russia only has 127, 130 million people. Russia and China can't just rule the world by themselves. No, not yet. And they can't just become totally autonomous. Russia's not in a position to just go to structural resources and that kind of stuff. It can't become totally autonomous and say, I don't need anybody else. Both countries and every other country need markets to sell to and buy from.

But I think your point is that there's been an imbalance in the West where they have lived hound and hog and got the best of both worlds in a certain sense at the expense of others. And those others are being Russia, China and other countries of the global south and Asia to some extent. And those countries now are looking to increase their own standards of living. And the Europeans and Americans look at that and say, well, By default, that would imply a decrease in our standard of living and we're not willing to do that. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn't, but that's the way they see it. It's the pie thing. It goes back to the pie thing again.

Niall: It's existential.

Joe: Existential, of course.

Niall: To what they know. And what they know they're so inured in, they don't know anything else. I mean, for 500 years, they called it free trade. And if only we can teach those other fuzzy wuzzies the wonders of free trade the fuzzy wuzzies go okay free trade and start to catch up with them. And they go uh sanctions sanctions everywhere. Oh we'll call it tariffs here but sanctions you know we change the rules now change the goal post.

Adam: Well like because they they fundamentally misunderstood the like the the britania free trade. It was no that it wasn't free trade. It was I'm exploiting you. Yeah That's free trade like I get free stuff from you and you deal with it. And so now that that's not working and they're actually like trading and Developing and all that stuff then it's like Yeah.

Joe: Mm-hmm.

Niall: Yeah And China can cut out that. I don't know what kind of real dentists had, but that thing that was going viral in the last couple of weeks where Chinese manufacturing, the actual factories that make the luxury high-end goods in China started producing tons of videos on TikTok that spilled over into Western social media where they were showing, so this is the bag that you pay 25 grand for. It costs us $200 to make. You know what you can do? give us a call. Here's here's our whatsapp number. We'll get you this. A little bit of a profit for us but more or less at cost. What the fuck you? you've cut out a whole chain of people to rent your class in the west that are going but that's that's the source of our wealth. Yeah the 500 mark up maybe it's.

Maybe it'll go away now that Trump's backing down to Taurus, but it was really like blew another hole in the mythos of how the world has worked for so long. Canada has an election tomorrow and Mark Carney is sort of He's a creature of that order. He's probably going to win. He's officially favored to win, but the polls are mad. If you look at the Canadian polls for the last few months, the clear leader was Pierre Polievre of the Conservative Party as a response to 10 years of Trudeau. But in the last two weeks, Carney has overtaken, just jumps up.

I love when they do that, you know, just before the election. Oh, look at that. Isn't it amazing? So he's now favourite to win. And he just epitomises. He was literally the Bank of England governor. And now he's in line to be the Canadian Prime Minister. Is it one country or the other? He went to school in one country, was a Rhodes Scholar in the other. He's neoliberal. He's a neoliberal creature. And he's rallying people on waving the Canadian flag against Trump. So you pick up nationalism when it suits.

Joe: Yeah. What about them Jews? Tell us something about the Jews, Adam, before you go. Here I'll give you something, I'll give you something to spark your... Spark your, spark a few ideas for you. This one. Is really official. Accuses UK minister of blood libel over Gaza aid worker killings. You know that old blood libel thing? You know what that is right? Surely you know what that is right? the blood libel thing?

Adam: No.

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Joe: You've never heard of the blood libel thing? Jeez, come on. If you're going to be a crisis king kind of guy, you need to know what the blood libel thing is. Blood libel is a trope, so it's an anti-Semitic trope, as they call it, or canard, which falsely accuses Jews of murdering Christians in order to use their blood. In the performance of religious rituals from medieval times especially babies kids.

Adam: Yeah yeah okay okay I know what you're talking about.

Joe: Okay okay so this guy you know it's basically them jews you know what they're all up to. A satanic you know blood sucking thing.

Adam: Yeah as they do.

Joe: Yeah. So basically the aid aid workers. So basically it's and supposedly it's anti-semitic to it's anti-semitic. Canard or trope whatever to that has been around for a long time where non-Jews would accuse Jews of killing non-Jews, accused Jews of killing non-Jews falsely. So here we have, and it's really official, accusing UK minister of that blood libel canard. In the case where Jews actually killed non-Jews. So do you think that's reasonable?

Adam: But did they use it for ritualistic purposes? Did they...?

Joe: Okay, that might be the bone of contention, whether it was ritualistic or not. I don't know. Maybe the shooting of the aid workers was deliberate. I mean, it was in the news that they deliberately went and shot a bunch of faith workers at close range.

Adam: OK, so then you can call it a purification ritual.

Joe: OK. So it may have been a purification. So cleansing.

Adam: Yeah. Cleansing.

Joe: Blood libel. So basically, when an Israeli soldier has just killed, or a Jewish soldier has just killed a non-Jew, and he's got blood on his hands, and you look at him and say, you're a murderer. He can turn around and say, that's a blood libel. That's a blood libel. As clear as the blood on my hands. As clear as the blood of this Gentile is on my hands, that is clearly a blood libel.

Niall: How dare you accuse me of what I've just done.

Joe: Exactly. How dare you point out that I did what I just did. That's antisemitic.

Niall: I suppose he could be arguing that. You're suggesting that we did it deliberately, whereas our story we're putting out is an accident.

Joe: It was just a wee mistake that we keep on repeating, just to know how we keep doing those mistakes.

Adam: The baby that I just beheaded was being used by Hamas as a human shield. And so obviously I had to behead the baby in order. For the baby to not be a human shield. Correct. So I could kill the homosterous. Yes.

Joe: Okay. You got it.

Adam: So we're on the same page.

Joe: You could be an Israeli spokesperson. Yeah, that's really good.

Niall: It takes quite a bit of mental effort to get that out. You're good at that. You're a natural.

Adam: It must be a crypto juv.

Niall: Yeah hmm it crossed my mind. Yeah um israel it's yeah. Words fail us. I mean the death toll has got to be half a million now the real one. They stopped counting at 50 000. But I don't know how you can survive your second starvation blockade. Maybe it's not that tight, some stuff gets in. You've probably got a lot of people who are on the verge. And I don't know, they'll swing it by saying, well, they died of this disease or that illness, but not malnutrition. But malnutrition's gonna be the foundation. Ah.

Adam: Malnutrition would be the thing that allows whatever disease or issue to kill them. But yeah, it's like when the ministers are talking about, no, we have to cut off all the humanitarian aid in order to get Hamas to release all of our hostages and put down their arms. Even though this is humanitarian aid that's supposed to go to civilians. But then again because they say that It never actually goes to the civilian population Hamas just takes it and uses it for its own purposes There and that's how they justify saying that they shouldn't give any humanitarian aid. But it's it's all sick. It's all lies. It's all bullshit. It's all Sick psycho.

Niall: Yeah, yeah, yeah it is. And What to us? what we see the most hope high-profile discussion about? probably not I mean enough enough. Government leaders in the West still still talk about it. You know, they still have official even. We're against this, this should stop, this should end, please stop, stop, stop. But in the public sphere, what's visible is the fallout from Douglas Murray being on Joe Rogan's show. I know that's brought that into a different discussion now about anti-Semitism for real in general, but what got it rolling was Israel. That's obviously the issue.

What he was denying was that anti-Semitism is on the rise because of Israel's actions. I mean, that's obviously the case. Can we wait 50 years for the American kids who are now polling as being pro-Palestine on this topic? It's a matter of western boomers in their in your neoliberal pax americana ways. They have to die off while people in gaza can't wait. Um I think the hooties could actually bring this to a head.

Joe: Maybe something bring it ahead. Let's wait and see if it's not Iran.

Niall: If Iran's too cautious about it the hooties might at least prompt the overreaction. And then several steps later comes ahead. But you know, we caution against willing or hoping for expecting justice in this world. There's a sad story. Jair Bolsonaro, the former president of Brazil, is probably on that store. He underwent major intestinal surgery a couple of days ago, which is an indirect result of his being stabbed when he first ran in 2017 or so, 2016. While in hospital stitched up, he published a photo of himself stitched from here to here.

They opened them right up. State prosecutors came to his hospital bed to tell him he has five days to prepare a defense against charges of treason, for quote, conspiring to overthrow the government in the aftermath of the 22 election, which was stolen from him in all likelihood. Tyranny. Tyranny dressed as liberal democracy, probably with the CIA's help. So, yeah. You can't win them all. And you'd think Trump would help, but what can Trump do? We're talking about deep-state structures, so...

Joe: Alright, are we done?

Niall: Yeah, just a rash of extreme weather everywhere, but I suppose that's going on all the time, eh?

Joe: It is.

Niall: A wildfire in New Jersey in April? That's a bit weird. Record wildfires in South Korea last month. I mean record like the largest ever. For as long as they have records of acreage burned and stuff. In March wasn't even that warm. Other than that, yes, let's call it done.

Adam: Oh, one last thing. Do you see that Microsoft and Western Digital's latest recycling pilot turns e-waste into a weapons-grade strategy for a country caught in a tech trade war? Basically, it looks like the Americans are getting their chips from washing machines now.

Joe: Oh my God.

Niall: That would be the sweetest irony.

Adam: Well, I mean, this is what they're saying. They're going through e-waste to try and get the rare earth metals recovered from hard drives and e-waste. So it basically is the same thing that they accused the Russians of doing. It's what they're actually doing. So, irony.

Joe: Did you know I super glued my thumb on my forefinger to get it last night?

Adam: Were you okay?

Joe: It'll be okay for a while.

Niall: Did you get that?

Joe: He got it straight away.

Adam: Well as soon as he did this I was like, white power.

Joe: It'll be white power for a while. Yeah, okay. So we'll leave it there for this week, folks. Thanks for watching this and hope you enjoyed the show. We'll be back next week with another one on whatever bullshit's been going on between now and then, which will probably be a large, a large dingy load. So until then, have a good week.

Niall: Thanks for watching. Bye. Bye guys.

Joe: Can't stop the signal now.
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Nice how at 01:05:55 Niall is saying the once mighty US warmachine is completely outdated today and professional military officer Andrei was writing books about it for years.
Trump recently boasted about new fantastic weapons reverse-engineered from "crashed" / donated UFOs. These toys most superpowers already have in secret. Even Nazis during WW2 had the KraftStrahlKanone (Force-Beam-Weapon) allegedly nailed onto their saucers. But can these weapons deployed on What AirCraft? - ? on the reverse engineered trashy human-cobbled-together-"UFO"s? Can these deliver deadly strikes against the modern warmachines of superpowers today? Highly doubtful! Its like Ghost of Kiev.

Even whistleblowers today revealed the US now uses a secret radio frequency radar capable of detecting UFOs. Even Soviet high rank military leaders revealed THEN during and after Gagarin's time:
- "We see everything, all craft that comes and goes.."

So if brave Murrican human pilot UFO-Bill with his dodgy Garage-reverse_engineered-UFO from Area 51 decided to deliver "a mighty devastating strike" on China-Russia using the newly reverse engineered "fantastic" UFO weapon - his heroic Bass would be probably shot out of the sky, before he can scream: - "Fire!".

Remember that UFOs are vulnerable to:
1. methane gas undersea emissions near South Africa,
2. Reichs Orgone Guns
3. Electrically intense storms
4. By extension any capable EM weapons - Like the already finished reverse-engineered Chinese Super-Laser? - (look it up) and any Russian exotic weapons based on "New Principles of Physics" that Putin knows about Russia and China reverse engineered . :D :D :D

And Meister Trump was recently boasting about these terribly fantastic new SkunkWorks weapons. Haha!
 
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