Previously unpublished material follows:
September 14, 2001
Q: We have a series of questions about this recent event. Was the attack on the World Trade Center undertaken by Muslim Terrorists?
A: No.
Q: Who was behind this attack?
A: Israel. {Notice, no "hyperdimensional false flag" referenced here, just Israel...}
Q: Is it going to become known that it was Israel? Will they be exposed?
A: Yes. […]
Q: Are there going to be further terrorist attacks in the U.S. next week as others have been predicting?
A: No.
Q: Are there going to be further terrorist attacks of this kind at any time in the near future in the U.S.?
A: No.
Q: Is this the beginning of WW III?
A: No.
Q: Is the U.S. Going to bomb Afghanistan?
A: Possible in future. […]
October 13, 2001
Q: (L) Next question: Is the anthrax that has been contracted by several people around our country a terrorist act against our country by foreign terrorists?
A: No.
Q: Where did the Anthrax come from?
A: U.S. government. […]
Q: (L) Are they going to try to blame it on some foreign element?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) So, if they are going to try to blame it on some foreign group, can we have any idea of which group?
A: Iraq.
Q: (L) Are we ultimately headed toward bombing Iraq?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Notice however, one complication: groups all over the world, as we are now noticing, have started protests against America. People are going to the streets in Europe to protest. So, in order to avoid this protest, probably America will have to produce some new evidence. Maybe an explosion of anthrax—maybe something completely new. (L) Is that something that is going to happen?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And what might be the next major act of terrorism be that will… (A) It may be somewhere in Europe to convince the European countries. (L) So, whoever is protesting the most is the one that is likely to get hit in some way. (A) But, on the other hand, it may not be easy for America to produce something there, since it is much easier to produce “terrorist” events in America where they have complete control of everything. (L) If they try to do it elsewhere, they are liable to get caught.
A: France may be hit next with nuke.
Q: (L) Well, that’s not friendly! (A) Well, that may make sense. There is this connection between the Afghans and Algerians and France. Algeria has already terrorized France in the past, so that may be the set-up. (L) That would certainly get their attention. Is there going to be an outbreak of terrorism on the 31st of this month as has been circulating on the grapevine?
A: Not likely.
Q: This Sollog guy made predictions about a certain series of events a few years ago. He claims that he predicted the plane hitting a big building, followed by the death of the Pope, followed by the death of a sitting American president. If this is true, he did make a “hit” on the “big building”, and we certainly have a very aged Pope who is likely to go at any time now. That leaves the question of an American President dying in office. Is there any likelihood of that happening in the next year or two?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Likelihood can be 1 %. (L) OK, is there a high probability of that?
A: No.
Q: (BT) Well, the thought that went through my mind, in such a scenario, is related to Cheney. Could he be part of the maverick group pulling the strings?
A: Close.
Q: (L) He may not even be conscious of it. I have the idea that most of them aren’t. They are just like everyone else: manipulated puppets. (BT) Well, somebody has to be conscious of it, for this faction to be involved. When you were asking the question about Bush, the thought about Cheney just jumped to the fore. (L) Are any of these people in the government, those in the public eye, the decisions makers; are any of them consciously aware that they are furthering the agenda for the STS takeover of the planet? The main players.
A: No.
Q: (L) Bush is just a puppet. He’s like Pinnochio. Every time he opens his mouth his nose just gets longer and longer. Pretty soon his nose will be so long he won’t be able to walk across the room. (A) In Poland, we had this guy Jaruzelski, who introduced Martial Law. He was a general. Well, my mother was in favor of him. Because he was military. But I could see through him. (L) Well, it is easy to get upset with Bush until you realize that he is as much a dupe as anyone else. He seems to be going around in a fog. All the jokes that are made about him being so dull are true! How can you get mad at a complete puppet? I’ve never heard the guy say an intelligent thing that wasn’t written down for him, and even then he sometimes manages to screw it up. (A) Yes, it seems so. Because those leaders who have proven not to be stupid in the past, have proved to be… (L) …dead. (A) Or, they proved to be able to kill millions to stay alive. (L) Yup, seems to be so. (A) Yes, they can be stupid in a very intelligent way. (L) Are all of these people going to be exposed, caught, shown for what they are?
A: Ultimately.
Q: (BT) Yeah, and that can be part of the STS program anyway. Expose ‘em and replace ‘em with something worse. If everybody relies on the government to save us, and then find out that the government is not only not going to save us, but that they are guilty of harming us for manipulation, that is a manipulation of a higher order. (L) Yeah! And then who will the people cry for to be in charge? Aliens? (A) It’s a “free” choice. [Laughter.] (L) Well, it’s a terrible thing to feel that way about your president who is supposed to be the representative of your country. (A) I’m surprised that some Americans… (L) …actually believe that he’s doing a good job and telling the truth. (A) Yes. (L) I would like to know what is the real percentage of Americans who think that Bush is doing a good job. I know they put up the results of polls, but I have observed that polls are often published to sway public opinion, and are not an accurate representation of it. What is the real percentage?
A: 53 %.
Q: (L) Just a little over half. Well, even that figure is depressing. Are we in danger of Anthrax?
A: Most likely not or anything else. […]
Q: (L) We watched one film that showed a strange, dark object, shooting down towards the ground [from one of the buildings of the World Trade Center]. What was that?
A: 4th Density energy surge.
Q: (L) Where was it surging from and to?
A: Dome of destruction energy time lock to ground.
Q: (L) Are you saying that there was a dome of a time lock over this area? Do you mean that they put a “time lock” over this area so that they could “harvest” bodies or energy?
A: Close.
Q: (BT) Was there any other purpose besides harvest?
A: Gathering records, gold, soul extraction, he said.
Q: (L) What does “he said” mean?
A: Journeyman.
Q: (L) Who or what is a “journeyman?”
A: Informant.
Q: (L) So there is a “journeyman” who is the informant from whom you obtained the information regarding the question?
A: 4th Density STO observer.
Q: (L) What did they want the gold for?
A: 4th density uses gold for technology.
Q: (BT) Well, that is in many myths about the “gods” mining gold in antiquity. (L) Were they gathering records in the sense of material objects?
A: Partly.
Q: (L) Might these records also have been an extraction of “records” from people as they were dying?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) For what purpose did they intend to use the souls that were extracted?
A: Remolecularization.
Q: What will they use these remolecularized beings for?
A: Insert them back into building to escape and be rescued.
Q: (L) Are you saying that this was an opportunity used as a very traumatic screen event of a mass abduction, so to say?!
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What was done to these people who were abducted? Was there a specific reason for a mass abduction?
A: Turn on the programs.
Q: (TB) So, those who “escaped” are very likely programmed individuals turned loose in our society. People with programs set to make them run amok at some point?
A: Close.
Q: (A) Well, we still we have one problem: the problem involvement of Israel. We were worrying about what is going to happen in Israel. At present, all the anger is directed at the United States.
A: America may shift blame.
Q: (A) Well… little things are emerging.
August 24, 2002
Q: (L) OK, I have a question before we launch off on this other subject. We have been considering putting our collected material on the attack on the WTC and the conspiracy of the government together into a book or a small booklet form or something rather than putting it on the web site and subjecting ourselves to hackers and all that kind of stuff. The question is how to do this without stepping on toes here? (A) By doing this, shall we remarkably cross the line?
A: Lines can be crossed if done carefully. […] It would also be a good idea to present both sides of the story. Along with a little “history” of the claimants and participants so the reader may have a foundation on which to judge who is or is not likely to be truthful.
Q: (L) Well, let me think. So if I include a little bit of history about a few related things and then point out: here’s what’s happening now and this is what’s going on, that will do it. (L) OK, now, $64,000 question: what caused the fire and explosion at the Pentagon? Was it a 757?
A: No it was very close to what you have surmised: a drone craft specially modified to give certain “impressions” to witnesses. Even the windows were not “real.”
Q: (S) What is a drone craft? (A) It’s a guided craft run by a computer. There is not even a seat for a pilot. (L) Alright, the $64,001 question, what happened to Flight 77?
A: It was landed and now resides, in part, in fourth density.
Q: (L) What do mean “in part,” how can it be in part?
A: As we have mentioned before, certain bases have this property due to direct interaction with denizens of that realm.
Q: (L) And they talked about bases that have levels underground. (A) Well, ‘in part’ can mean mechanical part or the human part. (L) Also, once they talked about bi-density beings that can move back and forth between third and fourth density. So, exactly what do you mean by this ‘in part?’
A: Let us just say that the “human” part now resides at 5th density.
Q: (L) Well, the soul is what goes to fifth density. So that means that the bodies are still—well, somewhere. Did they later use parts of these bodies to produce evidence at the crash site of ‘remains?’
A: Parts is the correct word. Do you think that any of them could be “allowed” to survive?
Q: (A) I have a technical question because if it landed somewhere, question is, whether the standard military surveying satellites, or whatever it is, know the place, or it disappeared completely before landing from normal satellite, or rather military, observation?
A: It landed in the normal way.
Q: (A) OK, then that means the military, and perhaps also the White House, knows that it landed and knows that…
A: White House knows little of what transpires in any case.
Q: (A) Right. But there are other spy satellites; some other countries may know that this story with flight 77 crashing at the Pentagon is…
A: At those levels, there is only one “Master.”
Q: (L) Those levels? What levels?
A: Levels that can hand down orders to bury or suppress.
Q: (L) So you’re saying that even, for example French, Russian, Chinese satellites that might have noticed something, that there is some level of control that can order such information to be buried or suppressed… (A) And the order will be respected? Why?
A: Those who are at that level have been bought and paid for by both giving knowledge of upcoming cataclysmic vents, and promised survival and positions of power after. It is not difficult to realize the there is a body of such types in positions of power already. Power is not only attractive to such types, they are the kind most easily corrupted by it.
Q: (SB) So they’ve been bought and paid for by… (L) Telling them what’s going to happen, telling them this is the only way to survive and that they will be helped to survive. And then, telling them that once it’s all over with, they can be in charge. Well, if they were going to kill the people anyway, who were in Flight 77, why didn’t they just simply use this Flight 77 to crash into the Pentagon?
A: Because the damage would not have been controllable otherwise.
Q: (A) Yes, this is rather clear. If you let real hijackers and real pilots in there, who may start to fight just before the crash or something, God knows where it might hit. (L) So it was real important for this one to be carefully controlled. It had to hit a very specific target for a very specific reason. (A) Yeah. All this jet fuel will start burning, uncontrolled fire… (L) Can’t have that. (S) Well also there might have been a specific area of the Pentagon that was more expendable; that they were focusing in on one specific spot in that building. (L) Well that has something to do with what L found out because she discovered that most of the people in the Pentagon who were killed were low-level female workers. All bigwigs were somewhere else in the building. (A) Well, what will be the consequences for publishing this book?
A: Who is going to put the pieces together reasonably and coherently if you don’t? Everyone is seeking truth. What’s wrong with putting it out there?
Q: (L) Well sometimes putting the truth out there gets you in deep doo-doo.
A: And sometimes not putting it out there gives some others hopes of stopping you from doing so. Once it is out, you are safer since at that point any “attacks” only justify and validate.
September 14, 2002
Q: (L) I want to ask about this crop circle supposedly that was created here on or around Aug. 15, 2002 and I guess the first thing I’d like to ask is whodunnit?
A: It was produced via 4th density technology.
Q: (V) STS or STO fourth density technology?
A: STS.
Q: (L) OK. You said via fourth density technology. However you did not say via fourth density beings…
A: Correct. There has been much advancement in 3D realm tech due to 4D interaction.
Q: (V) Between whom and third density?
A: Consortium.
Q: (L) Well, I noticed that last year, on or about the same date, the crop circle appeared with the woman’s face and the so called signal thing. Was that also the production of fourth density?
A: No.
Q: (L) I noticed also that Aug. 15 is, in fact, an ancient feast day of the Mother Goddess and therefore the appearance of the face last year was somewhat appropriate. This one, produced on almost—if not exactly—the same date, seems almost like it is a response to the face image last year. The message deciphered from this new crop circle is—and Ark has checked it and confirmed the deciphering—”Beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises. Much pain but still time—and then an unknown word—there is good out there. We OPpose deception. Conduit closing. (bell sound).” What is the meaning of this message?
A: The first thing that was intended was to demonize the crop circle phenomenon. The second thing was to give those who are susceptible the impression that their favorite gray aliens might be “good guys.” The third thing intended was to send a message of doubt directly to this room.
Q: (J) ‘the conduit is closing.’ Since the C’s have talked about creating a conduit since the beginning, they are trying to convince us that the conduit is closing. What was the garbled word, was it believe, or is it believe?
A: It was believe. However the glitch was due to the application of the technology. This provides the clue to the STS source.
Q: (J) OK so their amateur fumbling caused the glitch. (A) The guy is probably the glitch in the software. There was a noise…
A: Wishful thinking will get ya every time.
Q: (L) So they were wishfully thinking that they had everything perfect and they didn’t. (A) Still I want to know if physical characteristics of this circle were matched with the physical characteristics of what would be considered authentic crop circle?
A: They can get close. But again, there are differences. These can be detected if one is aware and looking.
Q: (J) Is there any criteria you can give us to measure against, is there anything in particular to look for? Or would it pop out as something strange that doesn’t make sense in a crop circle if you examine it? Or is there actual…
A: One thing to look for would be growth disruptions to the area. Real circles do not disrupt the creative principle.
Q: (J) Now would this be crop circles created by STS, STO, or both?
A: STO.
Q: (J) So STO doesn’t disrupt the life cycle but, if it were STS then it would change it. That would make sense. Well, there again their effect: the coldness, the burning, the whole negativity of it, would logically disrupt the life cycle. As for the way that they do this: you say that it was directed from fourth density. Do they actually come in and have any kind of physical apparatus in the vicinity?
A: It was not done from 4D.
Q: (J) I’m not talking about the one that we’re talking about this time, I’m talking about when STO creates a crop circle do they have a physical…
A: Real crop circles represent thoughts from 6th density unified thought realm.[…]
Q: (L) I have a question. I had a thought the other night after I read Dolan’s book. He was talking about this government technology for mind control and so forth, and how the government or the military was trying to cover up the alien presence and interactions, what they were really up to and what they were really doing, and I came to this idea after reading all of these cases. What is evident is that there were apparently abductions and landings and contact stories from very early on in the so-called UFO phenomenon. What I thought about was the fact that Bud Hopkins and Whitley Strieber promoted in their books, mostly Whitley, the image of the gray alien as the standard American abductor.
After the publication of these books all American abductions seemed to follow the pattern of the gray alien abduction. However, it is primarily an American phenomenon. Most other places in the world don’t have little gray aliens with bug eyes. So, what I want to know is this: is the gray alien abduction scenario: a) a screen memory b) a creation of the American military mass mind programming project in order to acclimate people to certain conditions, circumstances and interactions, or c) something else or d) are they really just gray aliens abducting everybody?
A: You have stumbled upon an interesting question indeed. As we have noted previously, physical abductions are rare. Not only that, some abductions do not end with return of the victim. Now, what do you suppose you would do to cover up this fact? You might “create” a lot of abductions that end with return and “no harm done.”
Q: (L) That wasn’t one of my answer selections! Does this mean that the abductions reported by the people that Budd Hopkins worked with followed by Whitley Strieber were staged?
A: Close enough for horseshoes.
Q: (L) OK, what would get us closer.
A: How about several varieties of experiences including government experiments. Did you ever notice how some cases exhibit extreme trauma and some do not? Same general story, but one is related with deeper sensation of reality, and another is not. Why do you think so many “abductees” are able to accommodate the experience, while some result in ruined lives?
Q: (L) So you are saying that some of them are not really being abducted. They’re just having something projected into their mind. So how long has this been going on?
A: Over 30 years.
Q: (L) That would be back to the 70s. And so where did Whitley come up with his gray aliens… and how does this relate to grays as cyber-genetic probes?
A: There really are “grays.” But not nearly as ubiquitous the gov would like you to think.
Q: (L) So with Whitley telling everybody how it happens and what they look like along with contouring of the blanket EM mind control field or whatever, with the beaming out of a mind-programming wave—whatever it is—they’re able to make a whole hell of a lot of people—everybody who is susceptible—think they are in contact with gray aliens. What is it that makes some people susceptible and not others?
A: Most generally that they are not organic portals.
Q: (L) So that leads to our other question, do organic portals ever get abducted?
A: No need.
Q: (L) So they’re using this, in a sense, as a weeding mechanism?
A: More or less.
Q: (L) So those people who declare firmly, that there is absolutely, never have, never could be, any evidence of abduction, could be OPs?
A: Generally speaking, yes.
Q: (V) Well, a souled person [a person with developmental potential] who has their faculties about them with knowledge is not going to get abducted either?
(L) I don’t think that’s necessarily a logical conclusion.
(V) Not necessarily? Well, I thought they told us that once your knowledge level increases you will no longer be abducted.
(L) I don’t think that this was the actual conclusion. Yes, it is true that if your knowledge increases then you have an idea what’s going on. And most especially, if your mind is strong enough not to be susceptible to these mind control waves, you can certainly put an end to that nonsense. But, that doesn’t mean that you would not be physically abducted if those fourth density dudes or the government decided to do it because that has nothing to do with battling mind control waves. I mean if they really want to get to you they’ll send somebody into you life who is an OP and they’ll come to you thorough that person.
(J) But, they say generally they don’t say all the time. So an OP programmed to exist as a projector…
(C) Could I just ask one question? Last fall I believed I was abducted, and I actually have one memory of it, of a gray, you know, while I was laying on a table. I also had physical signs on my body of an abduction. I’m curious as I’m hearing this: was I being abducted by grays that really exist or was that like the government mind control making me think that I was?
(A) What kind of physical…
(C) I had pain in my uterus area, I had pink eye, missing time, I felt like I got run over by a train. I had all these physical symptoms of something really bad happening and then one memory of being on a table with this gray standing in front of me.
(L) Do you suffer from Post Traumatic Stress?
(C) Not that I know of.
(V) No panic attacks?
(C) No anxiety or panic attacks.
(V) I think if somebody is getting hauled out consistently for most of their life they’re going to be pretty jumpy about everything.
(L) Loud noises.
(C) Oh yeah, like every loud noise, everything freaks me out, makes me jump, it’s like abnormal reaction to loud noises and…
(V) Do you remember what was being done to you while you were on the table?
(C) Well, I slipped into the memory when I least expected it. You know, once I realized what was happening, that I am looking at a gray, I just kind of freaked out and got really scared and I snapped myself out of it. So I had no idea what was being done. But I know that I felt completely under control, like calm, like I wasn’t scared on the table, like he was making me not be scared; like he was controlling me. But in seeing that, being numb, I got scared and pulled out of it. I’m just wondering if that actually happened, if I really was abducted by real grays, or mind control was going on.
A: How about real abductions, but not necessarily by “grays.” They are very popular screens.
Q: (V) OK, if not grays then who?
A: Ask her brother!
Q: (C) OK, well he’s claiming that he’s being abducted by the government agents. So if that’s who he thinks is abducting him, does that mean that’s who’s abducting me?
(L) Either that or he’s saying that it’s happening to him, while the one who is really being abducted is you, and he’s saying it because he is part of the screen. Projecting, reflecting. Talk about diversion.
(A) So I understand it’s probably some kind secret government activity that she is involved in, right? (L) Seems to be so.
(J) Is there a criteria for what they project? Is there a certain reason why they pick certain screens? Some people have experiences with reptoids and others have experiences with mantid beings and other different types of aliens. Is there a particular reason why they choose such a screen? Is it to play on a person’s emotions or a person’s perspective, or is it simply the way the person’s mind deals with…
A: Reptoids and mantids are not screens.
Q: (J) So those are real beings who are doing that?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) But this matter about these grays: I mean, I had the thought and shot up out of bed. I got up out of bed in the middle of the night because I started thinking about it, and thinking about it, and thinking about it. I had read Dolan and I had read about these programs and then I read this thing about them being able to just send out the whole mind programming thing into a “shaped neutral cavity” created between the ozone layer and the earth, and I started to think why is that nearly everybody in America gets abducted by grays? And why is it that everybody else—all of the rest of the world—experiences different kinds of creatures? What is it and why is it there so much of it going on here as opposed to what’s going on in the rest of the world?
I remember asking the C’s about it once and they said because America is the capital of STS, but that did not in any way confirm that all of these abductions were actually taking place. However, putting the fact that there is this almost unbelievable number of gray alien abductions in the U.S. together with the U.S. being the capital of STS, together with the little leaks about their mind control research, well, I just asked “what is really going on here?”
Well, when we look at the phenomenon chronicled by Dolan, what we see is that the government is, most definitely and crucially, interested in UFOs and aliens. We also see the truly Machiavellian way they have sought to not only cover it up, but to actually pretend that it does not even exist! They have pushed this “there is nothing to it” idea to such an extreme, that people afraid of talking about it for fear of being thought nuts. Well, what if that is on purpose? That way, if anybody has a real abduction, and there is real evidence, or something really awful happens, they can easily attribute it to lunacy.
But, what if they are really concerned about some awful things going on? What if they really need to conceal things? It’s not enough to just deny it or pretend things are all in people’s minds, because obviously that is not true. So, what would Machiavelli do?
Well, first of all, he would build up a straw man to knock down. He would create aliens that are complete and total distractions from what is real. So, as it happens, at about the time we now know that this mind control research was at a stage where it would be possible, suddenly, one day, Whitley Strieber gets a best seller writing about things we now know the government has obviously killed people to cover up. That can’t be proved, but it is strongly circumstantial. So the next logical question is this: if—as we now know—the secret government is really working on concealing this problem from society, do we—for a minute—think that Whitley would be able to publish a book that reveals the truth? And that it would be a best seller? Not one book either, but two on this subject, with the picture right on the cover.
Well, I read about people who said when they saw this picture that they felt sick, or they had this or that kind of experience. And everybody and his brother was suddenly seeing grays. And all of a sudden as soon as—I mean there were a few cases of this exact type prior to Strieber’s book—after Strieber’s book became a best seller the abduction phenomenon went right through the roof.
So all of this clicked together in my head in the middle of the night. As a result of this, there was another very interesting thing. If you look at that Roswell video, and you ask yourself the question: was it a hoax, and if I was going to do a hoax, how would I do it? After all, a hoax is supposed to be ‘convincing’, right? If it was a hoax, the hoaxers would have made that alien look like your standard gray. But the alien did not look like your standard gray. Not only that he had six fingers on each hand and each foot. He had almost like the body of a child. He looked like an enlarged fetus. So if that had been a hoaxed video or if they were going to plant this video to confirm anything about the “popular alien reality,” if they faked that alien, they would’ve made it look like a gray because that was what everybody was expecting to see. And in fact, one of the reasons many so-called researchers—including Mike Lindemann—rejected this video, dismissing it as a hoax, was because it didn’t show a gray alien!
I mean people aren’t even able to think! They rejected it because it didn’t look like the gray alien. Well, that’s one of the most compelling reasons that it is very likely real; the fact that it didn’t look like a gray.
And of course everybody is so convinced that they must look like these little four fingered bugged-eyed half insect creatures that Whitley Strieber has promoted so that when the real thing is right there in front of them, they reject it because it doesn’t look like Whitley’s grays.
(J) It may have been almost like a test to see how well the project was going because what is the reason for releasing the autopsy video, except to make sure that everyone’s conditioned toward the contemporary gray which seems to change with time.
(L) OK, so where were we, ah yes, Whitley’s ubiquitous grays. There really are some grays, but they may not look like Whitley’s gray…are there grays that look exactly like Whitley’s grays, real ones?
A: He missed the mark.
Q: (V) What I saw in that abduction that I remembered were not like exactly like Whitley’s grays. What were those little guys?
A: The real thing.
Q: (V) OK, are they based on the moon?
A: Most are based on Earth. […]
Q: (L) OK, now we have a couple of questions we want to get to here. You said before that OP’s were originally intended as a bridge between second and third densities and that they were used. Is Mouravieff right about the potential for OP’s to advance being dependent upon souled beings advancement to STO at the end of this cycle?
A: Not exactly. A soul imprint can grow independent of the cycle. However, it is more likely for a soul to “grow” when interacting with 4th Density STO. STS tends to drain energy for its own use.
Q: (L) The question came up about the remark as to the numbers of OPs and you said something about encountering half as many OPs as souled humans. It was pointed out that, in mathematical terms, that would work out to encountering or interacting with more souled humans than OPs. So, you said the population was evenly distributed, when you say the population was evenly distributed does that mean that there are half organic portals and half souled humans, more or less?
A: Yes
Q: (L) So when you say encountering ‘half as many’, what does that mean?
A: It means that “souls” run in families for the most part. Thus a souled, and we mean “potentially fully souled”, individual is likely to encounter and interact more with other souled humans. However, when awakening, they may encounter even more OP’s.
Q: (L) So they tend to run in families so they can have aberrations. Or a family that’s mostly OPs could have an occasional souled human, which they don’t know what to do with. And, in the same way, a family of mostly souled people could have an occasional OP, or a line of them that pops up in the family every now and then. But for the most part, people with souls marry people with souls unless there is some danger of them awakening in which case there’s special situation where they insert OPs into their lives. But I would say that in a general sense what they’re saying, and y’all can correct me if I’m wrong here, is that, what, water seeks its own level, so to speak.
A: More or less.
Q: (L) So in other words, the people who noticed that remark were right, and the way I took it was wrong. OK, another question, are there other types of soulless beings more than those reanimated or remolecularized dead dudes and OPs? Is there such things as holographic projection beings running around on the planet at this point and time?
A: In a sense, you are all “holographic” projections. But to answer the question, it is rare.
Q: (L) So, there are holographic projection type beings or there can be, but there’s not too many of them. Alright, on to the next question. Are there any particular clues that we could have about identifying OPs?
A: Is it necessary to have more clues? Remember some things are to be learned.
Q: (C) I think they’re saying to start paying attention, making mental notes and figuring it out for yourself.
(J) Didn’t they say that generally OPs don’t get abducted?
(L) Well, we’ve certainly been given a lot of clues over the years, we just weren’t ready and didn’t know what they were talking about.
(C) I think it’s probably better, from what they’re saying, if we just all figure it out from experience. You learn more by just watching than if they handed it to you.
(L) Another question we had was, in areas where third and fourth density are merged or merging, is it easier for Men in Black to project themselves into such a reality.
A: Of course.
Q: (J) They once said something about bi-density beings. They were like hybrids between fourth density beings and a third density being. Or could such an individual be a genetically enhanced human?
A: Humans were once “bi-density.” And some may be again in the natural way. Those of 4D STS “manufacture” are similar. Just think of them as a type of OP with souped up engines. […]
Q: (A) I want really to know what kind of mechanism is behind this 911 number coming up in the NY lottery. (V) Yeah, me too, and it wasn’t only that it was something with the…
A: Warning. It ain’t over!!!
Q: (A) Who was warning?
A: Mass consciousness signals to self about clear and present danger.
Q: (A) Makes sense. (L) Clear and present danger of what?
A: Wait and see.
Q: Might it have something to do with Iraq?
A: No cheating.
Q: (V) OK. I’m a little curious, and I don’t know if it’s been asked before or not, what is China’s role in regards to Iraq, is there any…
A: Big question mark, eh?
Q: (V) Well, it just keeps popping into my mind, and popping into my mind, China, China, China, China. They’re so quiet at this time right now, I don’t hear them saying anything…
A: Indeed…
Q: (V) Are they supplying them with the chemical and biological weapons?
A: And…
Q: (V) Nuclear weapons?
A: ?
Q: (V) You can’t, you can’t say that?
A: Nope.
Q: (A) In fact there is an answer. The answer is yes. I mean if you were China and you had nuclear weapons and you needed a lot of money, what would you do?
(L) And there is somebody who needs what you have, and there is all that oil and all that money, are you kidding? Saddam wouldn’t be being as cocky as he is if he didn’t have a really big boom-boom lined up and hidden somewhere, and aimed at us!
(V) Now does our government and their so called intelligence know that this is happening?
(A) Of course!
(V) Are they in cahoots with them?
(L) Sure.
(A) On a certain level everybody’s selling everything.
(L) At those levels above they are because their objective is to decimate the Earth’s population.
(V) Is China the only one feeding Iraq weapons?
(L) Why should they be? The U.S. is feeding them weapons. I mean it’s so dirty it’s inconceivable. They’re all in bed together.
(V) Is Laura right, the world leaders, the 10% that want to get rid of [the rest of us]…
A: That is the plan.
Q: (A) But you must remember, if one country is selling weapons to the other country, that doesn’t mean its weapons are going to work. Selling is one thing, using is different thing. Once in a while they will fail. (V) What a mucky game, huh?
January 18, 2003
Q: (L) What is driving Bush to have his war with Iraq?
A: Orders. Bush knows little in any respect as to what or why he does anything.
Q: Is the war drama merely a play being put on to keep us all distracted and in a state of fear?
A: More or less.
Q: Yet, you said the United States would be bombed, and on another occasion you said there would not be a nuclear war.
A: “Bombs” are not all “nuclear.” And, there are “natural bombs.”
Q: (A) I want to ask about the collapse of the World Trade Center. There is evidence of seismicity and unusual pulses that seem to have simply disintegrated matter.
A: Very good observation, but that does not mean human sabotage either. There were certainly “pulses.” They were of a “natural” source that was “sculpted” or “shaped” and directed.
Q: What do you mean by a ‘natural source’?
A: Energies of the planet artificially collected and disbursed. An artificial earthquake sort of.
Q: But we are still talking about technology. Where is the operational center for this type of thing?
A: 4th density technology.
Q: This we know. But there are human brain involved. What brains are behind this?
A: Did you ever wonder why the pentagon is a pentagon? Hint!
Q: Is that why they specifically included the Pentagon as one of the buildings to be hit in the 9-11 attack; to allay suspicions?
A: Yup!
Q: Are there fourth density sections to the Pentagon?
A: Absolutely. It is a “deep cover” kind of place.
Q: (A) There is this Pentagon, then there is another superpower—Russia—and still another—China…
A: There is only one. The U.S. just happens to be the center.
Q: (A) Well. (L) Maybe the heads of these other countries are all like George Bush. They don’t know why they do what they do. It’s all been scripted from somewhere else.
(A) Question is: there is Europe—how can France or Russia or whoever, win against this kind of technology? Apparently, since there is only one center, and this center of technology is the U.S., it seems pretty hopeless.
A: Remember Perseus and David and Goliath. Besides, help is drawing near.
Q: (L) Sometimes I have the feeling that when they say “help is drawing near,” it really means that that our “future” is getting closer and we are going to be the ones doing the helping! [Laughter.]
A: Close, but not all.
Q: (A) That means there are surprises waiting for us. (L) I think that people concentrating on the anti-war thing is a waste of time. I think they ought to be concentrating on the “impeach Bush” issue. But then, what good would it do to impeach Bush. Same thing would have happened with Gore. Until people wake up to the reality of fourth density manipulation, we are all in deep doo doo.
A: True.
Q: (L) I guess they are all gonna gather together there on the battlefield and when they are all there, something is gonna happen to scare the bayjeezus out of them…
A: Maybe…
Q: (A) The point is, that people have no choice. They are backed into a corner. The only thing they can do now is just impeach Bush. If they don’t do that, there is nothing else they can do. Because if they don’t do anything, they will bear the blame for doing nothing—the same way Germany did after Hitler. All the signs are here now: it is exactly like it was in 1939 in Europe.
(L) Well, anything we do, we cannot anticipate the outcome. We can’t even know if it will be helpful. We just have to do what is right from one moment to the next based on what we know using our best efforts. For all we know, if we keep pushing the “impeach Bush” issue, we may end up in jail as “enemy combatants.”
(A) What did we learn? That there is this help on the way. We know that we cannot quit working. We are helping the help, so to say.
(L) Well, I wrote to some people pointing out that the anti-war stance is only more divisiveness. There are people who are for the war to support Bush, and there are people who are against the war who don’t support Bush. It is a question of supporting Bush. Everybody agrees that Saddam is a stinker, but they can’t agree on whether how Bush is handling the matter is appropriate or not. They forget that what is happening here is that they are all being put into an oppositional stance against each other, and Bush, himself, is coming out on top clean.
If they would concentrate on the real issues: that Bush is a liar, that he is not even our legal president, that he stole the election by nefarious means, that he is a criminal from a criminal family, making it clear and plain with facts and massive media coverage about who and what Bush really is, then the whole issue would be focused where it belongs: on Bush and the Consortium that has put him in power to serve its agenda. But, instead of concentrating on the problem—of which Bush is only the representative, the real issue being the Consortium—people are not seeing that the whole situation is being manipulated for the benefit of the Industrial-Military Complex just as Eisenhower foresaw. Bush is only the puppet for this Consortium. If that could be seen as the real danger that it is, if they could impeach Bush—who is their creature—and get somebody into the presidency who was incorruptible, who could kick butt and take names like Kennedy tried to do.
Well, we have learned. Kennedy didn’t take the danger as seriously as he should have. If he had, maybe he could have carried through what he wanted to do: disband the CIA, tie the hands of the military, make things more equitable for the common people, enhance civil rights and civil liberties. If we could get somebody in the White House who was smart enough to not get assassinated, and who was clean and not tied up with the consortium, things really could change.
(A) The problem is only in America. If America would just stand down, Saddam would be dealt with appropriately. Nobody likes the guy. He doesn’t have anything. He is no danger to anybody. But Bush is a danger to the whole planet. He has created this crisis and the whole world has gone to hell in just a few months.
(L) And the reason he is able to do what he is doing—which is basically that he is going to destroy the whole damn planet—is because of the media. The media is controlled by Jews who have only one agenda: to own all of Palestine and revenge. And so, they dangle carrots for Bush to follow without even knowing that they are signing their own death warrant. They are following the script of the Consortium which wants, above all other things, to see all Semitic peoples destroyed, and their hubris won’t even allow them to see it. For that reason, the Jews have helped George Bush plunge the entire world into chaos. And they will wonder why, at the last moment, everyone hates them just as Americans will wonder why they are the most hated nation on Earth. Blind hubris.
(A) Well, there is this Game Theory, and they are employing it to the max. They are playing a game. They know where the buttons need to be pushed, to steer the delicate equilibrium where they want it.
(L) No one in the world of politics is clean. No one. They are all dirty, and if you know all the dirt, you can do what you want.
(A) …So, if something comes along that destroys their game theory… the whole operation will collapse. Game theory is based on data.
(L) It’s like V___ B___. His whole game was based on pushing our buttons, trying to blackmail us, saying things like “I’ll tell the whole sordid story.” Well, guess what? I’ll tell it first! I’m not perfect and I have certainly made mistakes. But nobody is going to use it to control me.
If other people could do that, if they could get over their fear of being judged for making mistakes, there would be nothing that anyone could hold over their head anymore.
(A) OK, there is Bush and his Skull and Bones. And then, there is the Illuminati. And they are looking for something. So, probably somebody behind Bush is also looking for something. So, if they destroy the world, they will get nothing.
(L) And then meanwhile, there is the North Korean guy—the mirror image of George Bush; everything he says and does is modeled from George Bush. It is actually comical to watch them. “I’m going to blow up the world!” “No you’re not, I’m going to blow it up first! I’m going to turn America into a sea of fire.” And Bush is saying “I’m going to bomb Iraq back to the stone age.” “No you’re not! We’re going to bomb YOU back to before the Stone Age!” They are like two identical characters! Crazy! We are in a hell of a mess. Any comments?
A: The situation looks bleak indeed. But remember the Achilles heel of STS: Wishful Thinking.
Q: In this case, how is wishful thinking going to help?
A: There will be a big miscalculation made. It will reveal the “Man behind the curtain.”
February 2, 2003
Q: One of the first questions we want to ask tonight is about the event of the Space Shuttle that was lost. First, was it an explosion, or was it just disintegration, or breaking up?
A: It was a “direct hit.”
Q: A direct hit by what?
A: EM pulse.
Q: (S) What was the source of the EM pulse?
A: 3/4th density Consortium.
Q: Well, I thought Bush was a puppet of the Consortium?
(A) Well, we know that the military are scrambling planes to go after UFOs… there are even reports of firing on them and there have been reports of military jets being disintegrated by UFOs. The UFOs are, somehow, in cahoots with the consortium. It seems that Bush and the gang are not in control of the Consortium and maybe they needed to be “reminded?”
A: It is not so much that he needs to be reminded, as he needs to be stimulated to react.
Q: (L) You once before said that Bush knows very little anyway—or that the “White House” level is pretty much in the dark about the plans of the Consortium—even if they are carrying them out. So, you are suggesting that they are being driven by forces of which they are unaware and do not understand?
A: Exactly. Bush is a “reaction machine.”
Q: (L) I would like to know about this supposed “body guard” of Saddam recently presented by MOSSAD? Was he one of Saddam’s former bodyguards?
A: To an extent, yes. But certainly not in the way presented. Just remember this: if pilots can be conditioned to commandeer airliners that will fly into certain death, how hard is it to “Produce” a “bodyguard?”
Q: (L) Piece of cake to produce a bodyguard, I guess.
(A) He is saying exactly what the Israelis want him to say. He is not revealing any particular data that counts. It is just general things. Anybody could say such things and be called a “bodyguard.”
(L) Exactly. OK, you say that an EM pulse brought down the Shuttle. (A) Where did the EM pulse come from?
A: From space based satellite.
Q: (A) Does NASA know about the cause?
A: There are some who suspect.
Q: (L) Which explains why they are so anxious to convince everyone that it was not sabotage. Like Wellstone’s death, there was “no question” about it being a terrorist attack. The likelihood is that the Bush Junta was behind Wellstone’s death. In both cases they “know” the cause and want to divert the attention away from it.
But, in the case of the Shuttle, they aren’t “dirty,” but they most definitely do not want anyone to realize that they also are not “in charge.” It makes me think of the remark the C’s made a few years ago about the reason for the Military Industrial Complex build-up and manipulations. C’s said that the real enemy is “out there” and that war was just a “cover” to prevent the masses from realizing what they were really doing. Maybe Bush and the gang are really convinced, in their own minds, that they are acting to “protect” humanity from this threat. Meanwhile, they are simply being driven to fulfill the agenda of the Consortium. And it is so interesting that the Shuttle broke up over Palestine, Texas… as though it was saying to Bush: this is what is going to happen to you: Palestine is going to be your destruction. But, of course, Bush would be incapable of perceiving it in that context. Is it so that a message was intended in this event?
A: As always, confusion is the mask.
Q: (L) In other words, everyone’s reaction to the event will depend on their own context. There is the view that it was a “message to Bush.” Bush and gang will, of course, see it only as a stimulus to faster and more “decisive” military action. So, it will really work on them the way it is wanted. (A) And of course, we wonder how they will make use of this event.
A: The primary effect among the masses will be shock, thus making them less resistant to Bush’s policies. Still other groups will see the clear threat to Bush and Co. from their activities. Bush and Co. will, of course, seek to capitalize on the event even while remaining in the dark as to its meaning. But there most certainly is awareness among them that there is a “Maverick” element at loose. Bush has even “felt” a bit of primal fear in respect of this event.
