New years eve sexual assaults in Cologne - a psyop?

[Solie123]

In case you missed it, check out Harrison's article on the topic on Sott:

http://www.sott.net/article/310260-New-Years-in-Cologne-Sexual-crime-and-the-radicalizing-of-European-society

I've been meaning to comment on Harrison's article because when I first read it, he was getting a lot of back lash from the first few commenters. It's honestly a great article, objectively written and taking into accounts all the pieces.

 

[Ocean]

I am going to weigh in on this discussion.

I have been a resident in the Middle East for almost three decades.
One of the first things I discovered on arriving here with my family, was that the Arab men use a general term for all white women - 'LAHAM' which in their colloquial language means 'MEAT' Needless to say I was utterly shocked at learning this.

I subsequently had many conversations with Arab colleagues, and all of them declared that white women who dress in a western way, showing bare arms, or wearing short skirts are actually asking to be raped.

This is the culture in the Arab world.

Actually they have been programmed.
They have been conditioned by society, to believe that the western movies they watch are actually a true depiction of the morals of the western woman.
They seem unable to separate the reality from the fiction.

Depressing.......

 

[Windmill knight]

I am going to weigh in on this discussion.

I have been a resident in the Middle East for almost three decades.
One of the first things I discovered on arriving here with my family, was that the Arab men use a general term for all white women - 'LAHAM' which in their colloquial language means 'MEAT' Needless to say I was utterly shocked at learning this.

I subsequently had many conversations with Arab colleagues, and all of them declared that white women who dress in a western way, showing bare arms, or wearing short skirts are actually asking to be raped.

This is the culture in the Arab world.

Actually they have been programmed.
They have been conditioned by society, to believe that the western movies they watch are actually a true depiction of the morals of the western woman.
They seem unable to separate the reality from the fiction.

Depressing.......

I have also heard people in the west say that women who are wearing mini-skirts or are generally dressed too 'provocatively' are asking to be raped. I have heard as well expressions referring to women as 'skins', 'meat', 'herd', 'birds', etc. So again, I think that the problem is a general disregard (to put it mildly) across cultures of men towards women. Out of the top of my head I cannot think of a contemporary culture that does not place men above women, and in which there are no large numbers of men who think of women as things to be used and abused.

I think that one difference between Muslim and western culture is that Muslims are much more conservative when it comes to sex, which is one reason some have feelings of contempt or resentment towards western 'promiscuous' and 'immoral' ways. Obviously I am not implying that Muslim culture is better; many of their practices are outrageoulsy misogynistic and if it was up to me those would be banned.

What I'm trying to say is that the fact that Muslim men say those things does not mean that most or many will actually go out on the street looking for women to rape, just as men in the west who will often come up with a**hole comments about women will not necessarily become rapists.

I am also saying that westerners are rather hypocritic in their condemnations. Lately people have been quite quick to condemn Muslims for their attitudes towards women and sex, but how I wish we had seen such zeal at condemning all those pedophiles and pig-lovers in the UK government. No one dared to say that there might be something fundamentally wrong with UK, Christian or western culture that would allow for our very leaders to behave like that. But Muslims? Oh they're all evil alright. Just compare how the media treated the pedophile scandals in the UK and how they are treating what happened in Cologne.

 

[Windmill knight]

... and I just came across Charlie Hebdo's new low:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-sparks-new-controversy-with-cartoon-depicting-aylan-kurdi-as-an-ass-groper-in-germany-a6810331.html

The creators of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo have sparked new controversy with a cartoon depicting the drowned Syrian child Aylan Kurdi carrying out sexual assaults on the streets of Cologne.

One week on from the special edition to mark the anniversary of the mass shootings at its office in central Paris, the magazine pays tongue-in-cheek tribute to David Bowie on its cover, describing him as “the inventor of the liquorice roll”.

And while that joke has ruffled few feathers, one which imagines what the dead child refugee would have been if he had lived has led to an immediate and angry backlash online.

The cartoon appears to be a satirical take on the view that all migrants are in some way implicated in the extraordinary spate of attacks on women in Germany on New Year’s Eve.

It shows a cartoon version of the picture of Aylan which rallied international efforts to tackle the refugee crisis, with another picture showing the child grown up, dehumanised, and chasing a woman.

The caption reads: “What would little Aylan have grown up to be? An ass groper in Germany.”

 

[Ocean]

I am going to weigh in on this discussion.

Arab men use a general term for all white women - 'LAHAM' which in their colloquial language means 'MEAT' Needless to say I was utterly shocked at learning this.

I have also heard people in the west say that women who are wearing mini-skirts or are generally dressed too 'provocatively' are asking to be raped. I have heard as well expressions referring to women as 'skins', 'meat', 'herd', 'birds', etc. So again, I think that the problem is a general disregard (to put it mildly) across cultures of men towards women.

The difference being that it is only WHITE Western women who are the target of this derogatory term. The Arabs would never use this term for their own women. In fact in this country where I live the women are literally put on a pedestal. Albeit a false pedestal. Of convenience.

White western women are indeed singled out as being different / worthy of derision / not of 'their clan'

 

[luke wilson]

I am going to weigh in on this discussion.

I have been a resident in the Middle East for almost three decades.
One of the first things I discovered on arriving here with my family, was that the Arab men use a general term for all white women - 'LAHAM' which in their colloquial language means 'MEAT' Needless to say I was utterly shocked at learning this.

I subsequently had many conversations with Arab colleagues, and all of them declared that white women who dress in a western way, showing bare arms, or wearing short skirts are actually asking to be raped.

This is the culture in the Arab world.

Actually they have been programmed.
They have been conditioned by society, to believe that the western movies they watch are actually a true depiction of the morals of the western woman.
They seem unable to separate the reality from the fiction.

Depressing.......

I have also heard people in the west say that women who are wearing mini-skirts or are generally dressed too 'provocatively' are asking to be raped. I have heard as well expressions referring to women as 'skins', 'meat', 'herd', 'birds', etc. So again, I think that the problem is a general disregard (to put it mildly) across cultures of men towards women. Out of the top of my head I cannot think of a contemporary culture that does not place men above women, and in which there are no large numbers of men who think of women as things to be used and abused.

I think that one difference between Muslim and western culture is that Muslims are much more conservative when it comes to sex, which is one reason some have feelings of contempt or resentment towards western 'promiscuous' and 'immoral' ways. Obviously I am not implying that Muslim culture is better; many of their practices are outrageoulsy misogynistic and if it was up to me those would be banned.

What I'm trying to say is that the fact that Muslim men say those things does not mean that most or many will actually go out on the street looking for women to rape, just as men in the west who will often come up with a**hole comments about women will not necessarily become rapists.

I am also saying that westerners are rather hypocritic in their condemnations. Lately people have been quite quick to condemn Muslims for their attitudes towards women and sex, but how I wish we had seen such zeal at condemning all those pedophiles and pig-lovers in the UK government. No one dared to say that there might be something fundamentally wrong with UK, Christian or western culture that would allow for our very leaders to behave like that. But Muslims? Oh they're all evil alright. Just compare how the media treated the pedophile scandals in the UK and how they are treating what happened in Cologne.

When i visited Marrakech, yeah, I noticed western women got a special kind of attention from the locals: Usually young men, in the way of comments (usually sexual!). This was such that western women at the hostels would usually ask us(guys) when we were venturing off to the market so they could come with us. Marrakech though is a very special and unique place. No foreigner would venture onto that market and not get absolutely terrorised. However, I never heard of any cases of assault and in all the Islamic towns I have been to, I have never felt under threat or heard of a woman being physically assaulted. So I don't think its to dissimilar to how women are treated around the world maybe with the exception that they think the western female is 'meat' as ocean put it. For this reason, personally, if I was a western female and fit into a category that would be considered attractive, I wouldn't venture outside alone (dressed as you would in summer) in an Islamic country. Always have a guy by your side and the local youth will just make their comments and that'll be that. I think it comes down to that religion being quite conservative.

However, not for one minute do I think they are rapists or fascists etc.. Cultural awareness is a plus to avoid ridiculous situations from arising. When they move to Europe, I would naturally imagine that at home, the youths will be brought up 'conservatively' but when they walk out the door, they will collide with the liberal society around them. I don't imagine that it takes great mental gymnastics to figure out that they will consider western females, 'loose'... Just a clash of cultures.

 

[Carl]

It was a shame to see so many people commenting on Harrison's article have fallen into that narrow, right-wing thinking. We are seeing it everywhere, among some people that were heretofore smart and astute: The big "Muslim takeover" conspiracy.

I think that one difference between Muslim and western culture is that Muslims are much more conservative when it comes to sex, which is one reason some have feelings of contempt or resentment towards western 'promiscuous' and 'immoral' ways. Obviously I am not implying that Muslim culture is better; many of their practices are outrageoulsy misogynistic and if it was up to me those would be banned.

This is the biggest difference I can see. And to be honest, they have a point. Through the influence of mass media, a lot of "white girls" objectify themselves more than most men ever will.

To add my 2 cents personally, I have never lived in a "Muslim" culture, whatever that means. But I have met a lot of Muslim friends, or generally those who come from Middle Eastern cultures. From Iran, Palestine, Lebanon, Syria (not the likes of Saudi Arabia). I see extremely little sexism among these people. The guys are more disciplined and the girls seem to innately value themselves more.

The sexism of the West is worse IMO. It's just hidden by the whole "You go girl! (as long as you're young and sexy)" culture.

 

[Ocean]

I am going to weigh in on this discussion.

I have been a resident in the Middle East for almost three decades.
One of the first things I discovered on arriving here with my family, was that the Arab men use a general term for all white women - 'LAHAM' which in their colloquial language means 'MEAT' Needless to say I was utterly shocked at learning this.

I subsequently had many conversations with Arab colleagues, and all of them declared that white women who dress in a western way, showing bare arms, or wearing short skirts are actually asking to be raped.

This is the culture in the Arab world.

Actually they have been programmed.
They have been conditioned by society, to believe that the western movies they watch are actually a true depiction of the morals of the western woman.
They seem unable to separate the reality from the fiction.

Depressing.......

I have also heard people in the west say that women who are wearing mini-skirts or are generally dressed too 'provocatively' are asking to be raped. I have heard as well expressions referring to women as 'skins', 'meat', 'herd', 'birds', etc. So again, I think that the problem is a general disregard (to put it mildly) across cultures of men towards women. Out of the top of my head I cannot think of a contemporary culture that does not place men above women, and in which there are no large numbers of men who think of women as things to be used and abused.

I think that one difference between Muslim and western culture is that Muslims are much more conservative when it comes to sex, which is one reason some have feelings of contempt or resentment towards western 'promiscuous' and 'immoral' ways. Obviously I am not implying that Muslim culture is better; many of their practices are outrageoulsy misogynistic and if it was up to me those would be banned.

What I'm trying to say is that the fact that Muslim men say those things does not mean that most or many will actually go out on the street looking for women to rape, just as men in the west who will often come up with a**hole comments about women will not necessarily become rapists.

I am also saying that westerners are rather hypocritic in their condemnations. Lately people have been quite quick to condemn Muslims for their attitudes towards women and sex, but how I wish we had seen such zeal at condemning all those pedophiles and pig-lovers in the UK government. No one dared to say that there might be something fundamentally wrong with UK, Christian or western culture that would allow for our very leaders to behave like that. But Muslims? Oh they're all evil alright. Just compare how the media treated the pedophile scandals in the UK and how they are treating what happened in Cologne.

When i visited Marrakech, yeah, I noticed western women got a special kind of attention from the locals: Usually young men, in the way of comments (usually sexual!). This was such that western women at the hostels would usually ask us(guys) when we were venturing off to the market so they could come with us. Marrakech though is a very special and unique place. No foreigner would venture onto that market and not get absolutely terrorised. However, I never heard of any cases of assault and in all the Islamic towns I have been to, I have never felt under threat or heard of a woman being physically assaulted.

You would probably never hear of any cases of sexual assault on a female. Nothing is ever reported in the Arab media. No names are ever mentioned. The Arab media is Heavily censored, and that's for sure. I know of dozens and dozens of cases of rape and sexual assault that would never see the light of day in the media.
I could go on........but take it as read.

 

[psychegram]

Reading through this thread, it seems to me that those who have actual, extensive experience of Muslims, tend to have the most realistic (which is to say negative) opinions of their culture. Those of you bending over backwards to say, oh, all the bad stuff, that's just made up or exaggerated ... mostly seem to be operating from biases rather than experience. You might want to think about who it is that's engaging in emotional thinking, suffering from cognitive biases, utilizing fact substitution, and ultimately falling victim to paramoralism.

Now. Is all of this part of a plan by the 'paths to destabilize our countries? Sure, of course it is.

Does it follow from this that Islam is a good or even a neutral thing? Not even slightly. The Quran is full of quite hideous and barbaric directives, mixed in with all the poetry. Mohammed himself was an awful human being: a lying, cheating, murdering, greedy, licentious, self-aggrandizing, pedophile. Read his life story, if you don't already know it, and tell me I'm wrong.

Most people on this forum accept the idea of 4D STO/STS forces, which guide/manipulate human behaviour either indirectly or, in rare cases, directly, via various forms of channelling. Looking at the fruit of Mohamed's tree, can any of you honestly say that this man was being guided by 4D STO? Seems to me rather that it is quite the opposite. His followers emulate him insofar as they can ... the results have been quite awful.

As to the 'contributions' of Islam to humanity, one might ask: how many of those 'Islamic' scientists in the 11th century, were actually Muslims? As in, deeply religious believers? Answer: not many. Then again, all those Christian scientists who transformed the world? Actual Christians, almost to a man. Also worth pointing out that Islam's so-called contributions happened during one very brief period in its history, whereas those of Christianity stretched on for hundreds of years. One anomalous fluke, vs. a systematic pattern. Sorry, not comparable.

There's a lot of moral equivalency with Christianity happening on this thread. First, you can leave the OT out of the comparison: the whole point of Jesus's life was a clean break with wrathful genocidal maniac god, so saying, oh there's barbaric stuff in the OT, is just intellectually dishonest. Are there Christians who did and do nasty things? Sure. But, neither the NT nor Jesus'/Caeser's example particularly condone such behaviour, so such 'Christians' are hypocrites, Christian in name only ... in rather stark contrast to the Quran, which actively encourages atrocity against the unbeliever. There is absolutely no equivalency to be drawn. Christians ended slavery (twice) ... the Quran practically demands it ... when Christians started keeping slaves again, they let them have children ... the Muslims took just as many if not more (sex) slaves from Africa (and Europe), whose babies were murdered (and what men they took gelded, as a matter of course). This being the reason there are African-descended people in the New World, but not a trace of their DNA in the Mideast. But yeah, leftists can always be counted upon to bring up slavery as why white people are the devil....

Maybe worth pointing out that Hitler (vegetarian, anti-smoker, and anti-Semite), also thought Islam was just great. He quite preferred it to Christianity in fact. Just sayin'.

So yeah. I'm in full agreement with Brewer and Ocean. Forum-members might want to take a much closer look at Islam, with the blinders off. It may give you the badfeelz (omg racism! islamophobia! no!), but, just because something makes you feel icky does not mean it is untrue. This forum is supposed to be all about the pursuit of truth no matter how much it conflicts with your beliefs. Is it possible that your strong beliefs regarding multiculturalism might, just might, be paramoralisms inculcated in you by the psychopathic elite? Where'd those beliefs come from, anyhow? Who, ultimately, do they serve?

And no, I don't particularly like the idea of bombing and invading their countries. Actually, funny isn't it, that our elites have been primarily going after the secular Arab dictatorships, while leaving the religious pathocracies alone? Almost like ... they're trying to build Islam up. Take down the moderate elements ... empower the fanatics ... stir them up with wars that don't work ... and let huge numbers of them into our countries. Invade and invite. Yeah, not suspicious at all. Be that as it may: not our fault; still our problem. And you don't solve problems with wishful thinking.

 

[Joe]

... and I just came across Charlie Hebdo's new low:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/charlie-hebdo-sparks-new-controversy-with-cartoon-depicting-aylan-kurdi-as-an-ass-groper-in-germany-a6810331.html

The creators of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo have sparked new controversy with a cartoon depicting the drowned Syrian child Aylan Kurdi carrying out sexual assaults on the streets of Cologne.

One week on from the special edition to mark the anniversary of the mass shootings at its office in central Paris, the magazine pays tongue-in-cheek tribute to David Bowie on its cover, describing him as “the inventor of the liquorice roll”.

And while that joke has ruffled few feathers, one which imagines what the dead child refugee would have been if he had lived has led to an immediate and angry backlash online.

The cartoon appears to be a satirical take on the view that all migrants are in some way implicated in the extraordinary spate of attacks on women in Germany on New Year’s Eve.

It shows a cartoon version of the picture of Aylan which rallied international efforts to tackle the refugee crisis, with another picture showing the child grown up, dehumanised, and chasing a woman.

The caption reads: “What would little Aylan have grown up to be? An ass groper in Germany.”

 

[psychegram]

Ah yes, then there's this (from the comments thread on Harrison's article):

"Psychegram, aka Matt S., I would suggest, given your budding career in astronomy, that you quit the racist schtik and stick with your studies. Is your returning here a cry for help? Would you like us to help you come to terms with your fascist leanings and suggestive threats by letting your professor know what you're doing on the company's time?"

Indeed: Niall blocked my commenting privileges on SotT for disagreeing with him, under the handle I use on the forum.

So, I set up a new account, using the nearest email address I had to hand. Was that sneaky? Yeah, maybe a little.

The new account has now had its commenting privileges revoked. And Niall has now threatened to 'out' me for disagreeing with him.

Is this acceptable behaviour for SotT editors, now? Not just gagging people for having different opinions, but also threatening to attack someone's career by, presumably, using the private email address that (again, presumably) the editor has access to ... because they dare to disagree with you? That's ... hmm. That's really ugly, guys.

 

[Joe]

Reading through this thread, it seems to me that those who have actual, extensive experience of Muslims, tend to have the most realistic (which is to say negative) opinions of their culture.

First line and you already invalidate your argument. "Muslim culture". On which planet does such a thing exist? Certainly not earth.

 

[Keit]

... and I just came across Charlie Hebdo's new low:

It shows a cartoon version of the picture of Aylan which rallied international efforts to tackle the refugee crisis, with another picture showing the child grown up, dehumanised, and chasing a woman.

The caption reads: “What would little Aylan have grown up to be? An ass groper in Germany.”

I think that Karma for this filthy bunch is way overdue.

 

[Joe]

Is this acceptable behaviour for SotT editors, now?

You should first ask if your behavior is acceptable for someone in your position, or someone in any position who also makes claims to having a passing understanding of the big picture.

 

[psychegram]

Is this acceptable behaviour for SotT editors, now?

You should first ask if your behavior is acceptable for someone in your position, or someone in any position who also makes claims to having a passing understanding of the big picture.

Seriously though: to comment, one must give an email address. It is implicit that this personal information won't be used for anything but e.g. verifying the account.

To threaten to use this to attack someone is profoundly unethical. Regardless of your opinion of that person's politics.