New years eve sexual assaults in Cologne - a psyop?

A side of the story no one has been talking about.
Cologne attacks: American woman tells how Syrian refugees rescued her from New Year's Eve sexual assault

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/cologne-attacks-american-woman-tells-how-syrian-refugees-rescued-her-from-new-years-eve-sexual-a6816221.html

A group of Syrian men helped Caitlin Duncan escape the crowds and find her boyfriend

An American woman has told how she was rescued from being sexually assaulted on New Year’s Eve in Cologne by a group of Syrian refugees.

Caitlin Duncan, a neuroscience student from Seattle, told the New York Times she had become separated from her boyfriend in the crowded square outside the city’s famous cathedral and main railway station.

She described a man stealing her hat before another “grabbed” her from behind, searching through her pockets and a third man tried to kiss her face and neck.

The 27-year-old escaped and attempted to complain to police but they were busy trying to clear the square and shoved her back into the crowd, where another group of men started groping her and pulling her hair.

“I went into a kind of fighting mode, and kicked and hit and pushed until I got away,” she said. “I was getting really scared.”

That was when she was approached by a group of Syrian refugees offering help.

They formed a protective cordon around Ms Duncan to help her through the crowd, offered to phone her boyfriend and searched for him with her when she could not remember his number.

The couple were eventually reunited inside the railway station, with Ms Duncan crying in relief.

Among the group was Hesham Ahmad Mohammad, a 32-year-old primary school teacher who fled Aleppo and was celebrating New Year’s Eve in Cologne with other Syrian friends who have recently arrived in Germany.

He told the New York Times he was also frightened by the groups committing the attacks, saying they had “lost their minds” on drink and drugs.

“We keep hearing news about refugees all day: ‘They are bad people, they must go back to their home,’ ” he said.

“When I hear that in the news, I am sad. Because we know that there were bad boys and bad people. But the good people, nobody speaks about them.”

Ms Duncan said she and Mr Mohammad are now friends and speak regularly, adding: “In the end it turned out really well.”

Police said asylum seekers were among up to 1,000 drunken men mostly of “Arab of North African origin” responsible for the attacks, sparking a wave of anti-refugee protests and revenge attacks across Germany.

Opinion polls show support for taking in current levels of migrants has declined in the fortnight since the assaults, while Angela Merkel has already vowed to review asylum rules and make it easier to deport foreign criminals.

A total of 751 people have filed 676 criminal complaints relating to the New Year’s Eve in Cologne, including 347 allegations of sexual assault.

Out of 19 main suspects being investigated, 10 are asylum seekers, and the hunt for perpetrators continues.

Police have put up appeals for information in Arabic and German in all refugee accommodation in the state of North Rhine-Westphalia.

Rewards are being offered for anything leading to arrests for sexual offences, the poster says, describing “groups of young men approaching victims to rob them and commit "serious sexual assaults".

Tensions continued in Germany today, with a public swimming pool in the town of Bornheim banning male asylum seekers because of sexual harassment complaints.

Businesses also reported a huge increase German sales of Tasers and pepper spray since New Year’s Eve.

“People are afraid of refugees,” manufacturer Vladimir Kupa told the Handelsblatt newspaper.
 
Windmill knight said:
Here's another article on the pool that banned refugees in a German town. My question is, why not treat each case individually as they would do with any German or anyone else for the matter, which is what common sense dictates? Suddenly all refugees are responsible? :rolleyes:

https://www.rt.com/news/329141-germany-refugees-pool-harassment/
German swimming pool closed to male refugees after assaults on women

In a first, male migrants were banned from a leisure center in a German town for sexually harassing female visitors, while authorities in a different German town chose to step up security at a center for similar reasons.

Male asylum-seekers currently living in a hostel in Bornheim, a town on the outskirts of Bonn, were banned from visiting a local swimming pool after the number of complaints of sexual harassment from female bathers became alarmingly high, the town’s authorities said on Friday.

None of the episodes can be regarded as criminal offences, but the men’s behavior was more than inappropriate, Markus Schnapka, Bornheim’s social welfare chief said, as cited by Die Welt.

The ban is a temporary measure. The men can regain access to the swimming pool once they reconsider their behavior, according to local officials.

“Once our social workers tell us that they have got the message, we’ll terminate the measure,” Schnapka said, Die Zeit reported.

Schnapka would also like to hold so-called “information days” at Bornheim’s refugee camp, where nearly 300 refugees currently live, to raise awareness about the image of contemporary German women.

The ban was also prompted by a sexual attack on a woman in her 50s by an 18-year-old refugee in the same town that took place in broad day-light. The man reportedly groped the victim and tried to kiss her.

The staff of another pool in the town of Netphen in North Rhine-Westphalia near Cologne also had to impose disciplinary measures on some refugees.

Bernd Wieczorek, the pool manager, has confirmed that a group of 20- to 25-year-old refugees sexually harassed female visitors. The young men watched them during aqua-cycling class and followed them afterwards, Berliner Kurier reported.

The rules and regulations of the swimming pool were clearly stated in English, German, Arabic and French, according to Wieczorek.

The refugees weren’t banned from the pool, however. Instead, the administration decided to increase security, since a ban would mean “discrimination,” according to RP Online.

In the same manner, an Austrian bar called Charly’s in the town of Bad Ischl banned refugees after an alleged sexual harassment episode. The move sparked criticism from human rights groups.

On New Year’s Eve, a group of migrants came to the bar and reportedly groped a waitress.

“After that I had enough and I decided to ban them all until we find the culprits. I need to protect my guests and my family,” Karin Siebrecht-Janisch, the owner, told AFP, insisting that she was not inciting racism or hatred.

The measures come in the wake of the recent mass sexual assaults that took place on New Year’s Eve in Cologne, Hamburg, Berlin, Frankfurt, Stuttgart and Bielefeld, where migrants attacked, groped, and robbed women. Similar cases were reported in other EU cities including Helsinki, Stockholm, Vienna, Zurich, among others.

Let's talk about swimming-pools. More than 10 years ago I spoke to a woman-supervisor of an outdoor swimming-pool, who told me that they had had to cut down all bushes and trees in swimming-pools in my city. Girls were being molested behind the bushes. By the locals.
In The Netherlands we hear time and time again about girls being attacked by Dutch boys/men in swimming-pools or Dutch swimming teachers who sexually abuse kids. And let's not forget Dutroux in Belgium who may have started his pedocriminal network in a swimming-pool more than 30 years ago. He sexually attacked a girl, but luckily the manager intervened. :evil:
 
luc said:
Alana said:
It is so sad. Imagine every single american man to have to prove himself that he is not a rapist every time another american rapes a woman somewhere. And IF they events in Cologne took place as described....

Yes, it is so sad. And what they are doing in the media really is straight from hell. Yesterday we went to the big city (Germany, many immigrants), and you could literally feel it. And the worse thing: it works, even for me! Whenever I saw a dark-skinned man - didn't even matter whether he is from India, Asia, Africa or Arab country - something cringed inside me. It's so powerful how they play with our lowest, animal-like instincts. A sane society would strive to bring out the best in people, ours brings out the worst, systematically. I can't even imagine how the 99% honest, law-abiding and decent Muslims/dark-skinned men feel right now in Germany and elsewhere.

At least you are aware of it, luc. That is what matters. This is how racism works, it is so insidious, because our subconscious (system 1) absorbs these ideas and we have to fight it with our conscious awareness (system 2). I don't know whether you have read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell? He describes how this works.

My family is pretty racist and it goes back for generations. So, I had to work really hard to overcome all these biases and all that horrendous crap I had heard at home and at school. I think when you are raised in a country which is predominantly white you don't know any better when you are young, at least I didn't. And because of my upbringing (at home, at school, at college and through Dutch society) I still have to pay attention to my racist I and remain alert.
 
Windmill knight said:
A side of the story no one has been talking about.
Cologne attacks: American woman tells how Syrian refugees rescued her from New Year's Eve sexual assault

There is a similar story that was shared in the Russian media. Couldn't find it in English, though. It allegedly happened in Sweden, where an Uzbeqi young man saved a drunk young woman from a bunch of refugees, who were groping her.

But the story that was making waves on the Russian internet for the past two days was, that a 13 years old girl of Russian origin was kidnapped and raped for 30 hours by a group of refugees, that later released a video admitting to it. German police denies this fact and says that it never happened. Apparently, it was girl's aunt that approached the media directly, after claiming that German authorities are covering up the truth. It is actually quite possible that the story was invented either by the girl herself or the family.

So clearly the whole thing was fabricated, but even if it was refuted, it still stays in people's minds. The thing is that Russia had and still has its share of gang rapes, and they still remember how Soviet soldiers were accused of raping German women. But still...there are a lot of mixed emotions when it comes to refugees, so it's easy to manipulate with it.

Btw, don't know if this was brought up already, but just stumbled upon a wiki entry on Sydney gang rapes in 2000, that were organized by Bilal Skaf, who led rape gangs of Lebanese Australian men. Well, this creature is without a doubt a psychopath. But notice this interesting bit:

In March 2003, he was charged with writing a threatening letter to Corrective Services Commissioner, Ron Woodham.[1] The letter had been found in an internal prison mailbox. The letter said: "Don't take this as a threat but if all Muslims aren't released by January 2003 Australia and citizens will be in danger of bombing". White powder had been put into the letter.[1]

I just wonder if someone among the psycho PTB maybe remembered about this story and decided to fabricate a new version of it.
 
Mariama said:
At least you are aware of it, luc. That is what matters. This is how racism works, it is so insidious, because our subconscious (system 1) absorbs these ideas and we have to fight it with our conscious awareness (system 2). I don't know whether you have read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell? He describes how this works.

My family is pretty racist and it goes back for generations. So, I had to work really hard to overcome all these biases and all that horrendous crap I had heard at home and at school. I think when you are raised in a country which is predominantly white you don't know any better when you are young, at least I didn't. And because of my upbringing (at home, at school, at college and through Dutch society) I still have to pay attention to my racist I and remain alert.

Thanks Mariama, I think you are spot on (I haven't read "Blink" yet, but "Thinking, fast and slow"), it probably was a case of System 1 trying to nudge me in a certain direction and System 2 becoming aware of it which allowed me to consciously override System 1 in this case. But it's still really astonishing how this works, and I can only assume that even die-hard "liberals" without awareness/experience with those concepts will fall like flies when there's enough fear-based manipulation going on. Maybe not all of them will join the right-wing mob (although many will I think), but they will remain silent and pretend that life will go on like before, just as Sebastian Haffner said it was in the 30's.

Just to add a few observations about this experience: it's funny how our System 2 comes up with rationalizations, filters the available data and comes to wrong conclusions when driven by primitive System 1 stuff. For example, you see two "dark-looking/foreign-looking men", and you will go:

  • They are whispering to each other. -> They must keep dangerous secrets. They may be planning something against you.
  • They are looking into the direction of some women. -> Are they starring at them improperly?
  • They are walking around the city at 5pm -> They must be jobless and profiting from the welfare state.
  • They are wearing a bit strange cloths (muscle shirt, unfamiliar vest) -> They are not adapting to our society. Maybe they are some sort of "pimps" in the red light scene?
  • They wear barbs -> are they Muslim extremists? Or do they not know how to care for themselves?
  • etc.

Of course, you could interpret all that also in the following way:
  • They are whispering to each other. -> They probably talk about private stuff. It's actually polite of them not to bother everyone with it.
  • They are looking into the direction of some women. -> Or did they just check if there were cars approaching?
  • They are walking around the city at 5pm -> Probably they have one of the many jobs with different working hours. And if not - so what? I don't ask that question when I see "regular people" walking the streets at this hour.
  • They are wearing a bit strange cloths (muscle shirt, unfamiliar vest) -> Just like most "natives" wear a little strange cloths these days. Muscle shirts everywhere.
  • They wear barbs -> which is a huge fashion nowadays everywhere. What's wrong with wearing a barb?

This is powerful stuff and as I said, it's really sad that System 1 gets manipulated to bring out the worst in us when the good aspects of it could be strengthened via public discourse as well...
 
And then there is this in Sputnik, citing as source the Finnish tabloid Inta-Sanomat:

Finnish women have offered lone refugee boys €20 for sex, a Helsinki-based tabloid wrote on Friday

Elderly Finnish women [below the report says that the women are 30-40 y.o. so using "elderly' here is wrong] are believed to have offered lone migrant teens money for having sex with them, Inta-Sanomat wrote.

Taina Cederström, an instructor at a local center for asylum seekers, told the newspaper that women had been attempting to buy sex from underage refugees at the Helsinki railway station during Christmas, by offering the boys €20 for their services.

She said she was certain about at least two such cases, but added that there could have been more.
The employees of the Diakonissalaitos Foundation, which runs the center, found out about the case after they started wondering where the refugee boys got the money for cigarettes and other things. Questions asked by the refugee boys also raised their suspicions.

"One boy once asked, if it's the case in Finland, that women are allowed to kiss whenever they want."

Taina Cederström said that she could not recall anything like that happening in Finland before; 30- and 40 year-old Finnish women, apparently intelligent and wealthy, now come to the station to buy sex from teenage boys.

”We are trying to explain to the asylum seekers how they should treat women and this is what we see happening now,”
she said.

Cederström also fears that the young migrants will now spend more time hanging out at the sation where they could get into trouble. She said that they could be offered to sell drugs for money.

On Thursday Finnish newspapers wrote about another sex scandal, this time between a female Red Cross worker and an asylum seeker.

The head of the Finnish Red Cross, Pekka Annala, said that sexual relations between FRC workers and asylum seekers were an absolute taboo, adding that the immigration authorities would stay out of it as the case was strictly an “internal affair” for the organization.

The sad irony of this is that on January 11, the Finnish Immigration Service launched a mobile learning course about sexual equality and sexual health and rights suitable for all asylum seekers. The easy-to-use service is currently available in English; other languages will be added in the future.

The course topics are Finnish legislation and relationships, sexuality and the act of sex, sex education, sexual violence and harassment and taking care of sexual health.

The purpose of the course is to give asylum seekers information about equality and sexuality, general rights and obligations as well as legislation and manners in Finland.
 
Dirgni said:
Finland:
Helsinki (Central Station) about 1000 "asylum seekers" attack women; first time something like this that happened in Helsinki

It seems not much really happened in Finland. There had been some 2000 refugees at centre of Helsinki, celebrating the new year among other crowd. After new year there was lot of headlines how the Cologne events almost happened in Finland, and that there seemed to be connection between the two. This was based on debuty police chief Ilkka Koskimäki statements. According to him, police had received beforehand information, that asylym seekers would cause disruption at the new years eve in Helsinki, which caused police to take action by arresting six people and removing 10 people from new year scene. Koskimäki also gave interview to The Telegraph.

Security personnel reported “widespead sexual harrassment” during the celebrations, police added, with women complaining that asylum seekers had groped their breasts and kissed them without permission.

This phenomenon is new in Finnish sexual crime history,” Ilkka Koskimaki, the deputy chief of police in Helsinki, told the Telegraph. ”We have never before had this kind of sexual harrassment happening at New Year’s Eve.”

Yet security company Local Crew's manager Ville Ketonen has been surprised about these comments, since according to him there wasn't any reporting about harrasment by his security personnel:

"Personally i was kind of surprised about that police statement [made by Koskimäki]. I haven't received any information about widescale harassment. I couldn't go to court and say that this has happened".

Later a source from police said that the clues police received were highly exaggerated, and caused by quarrel between sunni and shia groups in refugee centers:

According to clue made to police from asylym center, about 40-50 Iraqi men were planning going to Helsinki in order to riot and rape. Some Iraqi men were planning to sell themselves to wealthy women.

MTV news has received information, that based on the investigation, these kind of plans never existed, or they've been strongly exaggerated.

This was confirmed by National Burau of Investigation's head investigator Thomas Elfgren. According to him there's no connection to Cologne:
During the preliminary investigation there hasn't emerged anything, which would now afterwards give reason to suspect plans for similar widespread incidence which happened in Cologne.

There was three sexual assault cases made after the new years eve and few reports of harassment. The whole case seems to be highly fabricated, and has further hysterized Finnish society. A rather disgusting side effect of the refugee crisis has been right-wing street patrols, which have increased their support and activity on many cities. Some Finnish politicians (for example, Minister on Justice and Labor Jari Lindström) and police chiefs have made vague comments and more or less given their support to these neo-nazi groups.
 
Now, as if on cue, Geert Wilders comes up with yet another schizoidal declaration, basically calling for the first step in creating concentration camps:

'Lock up Islamic men in asylum centres' says Dutch MP

THE HAGUE: Outspoken far-right Dutch politician Geert Wilders Monday called for all Islamic male refugees to be locked up in their asylum centres, saying women needed to be protected on the streets. He made the comments in a new video for his Freedom Party (PVV) in the wake of a series of New Year’s Eve sexual offences in Cologne, Germany.

As the refugee issue polarises the Netherlands, the PVV is riding high in opinion polls suggesting if elections were held now it would win the largest number of seats in the Dutch parliament. Denouncing the attacks in Germany in which hundreds of women were groped and robbed by a throng of mostly Arab and North African men, Wilders said it was “sexual terrorism, sexual jihad.”

In the video released in both Dutch and English, he repeated calls for the Netherlands to close its borders to all “asylum-seekers from Islamic countries.” “But as long as this doesn’t happen, as long as our women are in danger from the Islamic testosterone bombs, I propose that we lock the male asylum seekers up in the asylum centres.
_http://tribune.com.pk/story/1030192/lock-up-islamic-men-in-asylum-centres-says-dutch-mp/


The consequences followed immediately:

New riot in Dutch town against refugee centre

The Hague (AFP) - Clashes erupted late Monday in a small Dutch town during violent protests against the planned opening of a centre for asylum seekers, Dutch media and officials said.

In a repeat of scenes seen in several Dutch towns and villages since late last year amid growing tensions over record numbers of migrants, police intervened to disperse about 1,000 people who rallied in central Heesch. It was not immediately clear from police how many people had been arrested and whether anyone was injured.

The riot came only hours after populist far-right politician Geert Wilders called for Islamic male refugees to be kept locked up in asylum centres, saying such a move was needed to protect Dutch women after the New Year's Eve assaults in Cologne, Germany.

A Facebook page "Protest AZC Heesch" -- which had over 3,000 likes -- had called for supporters to join a rally from 7:00pm (1800 GMT) outside the town hall in Heesch. "AZC" is Dutch shorthand for an asylum seekers centre. Town officials aimed to hold a public meeting around 8:00 pm (1900 GMT) to discuss plans to house some 500 refugees in the town over the next ten years. But the atmosphere turned nasty, and the meeting was abandoned as dozens of protesters tried to storm the town hall, the Dutch news agency ANP said.

A group of protesters threw fireworks and eggs at the building which was evacuated, sources told ANP. A message posted on the town's website from the mayor, Marieke Moorman, said the town "had given police extra powers" after a "demonstration ran out of control." Police restored calm later in the evening.

In December, Dutch police fired warning shots to disperse a demonstration in the town of Geldermalsen against a planned refugee centre for some 1,500 migrants. There have been several other outbreaks of violence as Dutch officials have sought to explain the country's migrant policy.

Europe is grappling with its biggest influx of refugees since World War II with more than 1.1 million people having arrived on its shores, most fleeing conflicts in Syria and Iraq, and poverty in Africa. But the crisis has polarised opinion in the Netherlands, which by mid-November had already taken in a record 54,000 asylum seekers.

Fuelling the debate, Wilders said in a new video for his Freedom Party (PVV) Monday that "I propose that we lock the male asylum seekers up in the asylum centres."

His party is riding high in popular opinion with the latest polls suggesting that if elections were held today it would snatch the largest bulk of seats in the Lower House -- 36 out of 150 -- enough to force talks about building a coalition government.
_http://news.yahoo.com/riot-dutch-town-against-refugee-centre-212827300.html
 
Hello, no apologies for the delay, been very busy with the fire brigade and ambulance service.

Some ask why I don't talk about the paedophillia of the church and the entertainment industry. I'm well aware of it but this time I'm discussing islam.
Do a search for Rotheram on the Cassiopeia fora, barely rates a mention. Rotheram was the ongoing grooming and rape of 1400 English girls by 'Asian' men, asian, in this case meaning Pakistani moslems.

They also ask me why I didn't mention Christianity in this thread, why should I? I'm well aware of Christianity's dark history. I'm talking about this particular event. I agree that it is a psyop. Whoever ordered the importation of 100000s young moslem mid east men knew full well that this would happen. I'd say Sweden and Norway was the trial run. Germany is the psyop in practice. Islam is a very useful program for the PTB and this would never have happened if PUTIN was in charge, it would've been rubber bullets, batons, tear gas, dogs, imprisonment and deportation. Another thing, see the links below regarding Putin, seems that he's offering a safe haven for Europe's Jews and getting rather cosy with Bibi Netanyahu and Israel. He's quite the politician is he not? he's knows exactly what's going down, when the shit hits the fan he'll skim the cream of Europe for his empire. I can see why he courts Jews, they do make up a large proportion of scientists and Nobel Prize winners. They punch way above their weight. He know's that if he helps any Jew, he'll get the rest, it's happening right now. He'll also offer assistance to the Germans, they're the ground zero of this psyop and have much to offer his empire. European nations that have shown their mettle will not be vassal states to Russia but part of a federation. Maybe I'm wrong but I don't care but I know the EU can't survive what's happening now. Beats becoming Eurabia.

One person asked why don't I mention the islamic contribution to learning, after all, islam's preservation of ancient texts brought Europe out of the dark ages did it not? I don't agree with this. Moslem armies invaded countries that had advanced cultures and were centers of learning. Even the most ignorant general, caliph or vizier could see that infidel learning could be of benefit to islam's spread so a portion of it was preserved. As with Christianity many libraries were destroyed by invading islamic armies. Science happened under islam in spite of islam not because of it, same for dark ages Christianty.

Harrison K quotes Vice in his article..
... Germany's rape culture is deeply rooted in our collective psyche. Sexual assaults and even rape happen every year at big events like Oktoberfest. "The way to the toilet alone is like running the gauntlet: within 50 feet, you can be sure to tally three hugs from drunken strangers, two pats on the ass, someone looking up your dirndl and some beer purposely splashed right down your cleavage," wrote Karoline Beisel and Beate Wild in 2011, in the Süddeutsche Zeitung. An average of 10 reported rapes take place each year at Oktoberfest. The estimated number of unreported cases is 200.

Harrison, the Oktoberfest gets over 6 million visitors a year if half of the visitors are male and if they behaved like the 1000 creatures in Koln then there would perhaps 200000 assaults over the two weeks it runs. Hardly a comparison.

Joe, you posted this from http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com/. What of it? It's fluff, soothing bromides for the true believers. If you researched the western signatories you'll probably find they have nice little well paid jobs in universities and so forth. BTW, I've studied islam, been invited to convert, have had many conversations with moslems who wished they were never born moslems. You could call me a scholar of islam too. This is pap, twaddle, trouble is, people kill, die and suffer for it.

Executive Summary
1. It is forbidden in Islam to issue fatwas without all the necessary learning requirements. Even then fatwas must follow Islamic legal theory as defined in the Classical texts. It is also forbidden to cite a portion of a verse from the Qur’an—or part of a verse—to derive a ruling without looking at everything that the Qur’an and Hadith teach related to that matter. In other words, there are strict subjective and objective prerequisites for fatwas , and one cannot ‘cherry-pick’ Qur’anic verses for legal arguments without considering the entire Qur’an and Hadith .
2. It is forbidden in Islam to issue legal rulings about anything without mastery of the Arabic language.
3. It is forbidden in Islam to oversimplify Shari’ah matters and ignore established Islamic sciences.
4. It is permissible in Islam [for scholars] to differ on any matter, except those fundamentals of religion that all Muslims must know.
5. It is forbidden in Islam to ignore the reality of contemporary times when deriving legal rulings.
6. It is forbidden in Islam to kill the innocent.
7. It is forbidden in Islam to kill emissaries, ambassadors, and diplomats; hence it is forbidden to kill journalists and aid workers.
8. Jihad in Islam is defensive war. It is not permissible without the right cause, the right purpose and without the right rules of conduct.
9. It is forbidden in Islam to declare people non-Muslim unless he (or she) openly declares disbelief.
10. It is forbidden in Islam to harm or mistreat—in any way—Christians or any ‘People of the Scripture’.
11. It is obligatory to consider Yazidis as People of the Scripture.
12. The re-introduction of slavery is forbidden in Islam. It was abolished by universal consensus.
13. It is forbidden in Islam to force people to convert.
14. It is forbidden in Islam to deny women their rights.
15. It is forbidden in Islam to deny children their rights.
16. It is forbidden in Islam to enact legal punishments (hudud ) without following the correct procedures that ensure justice and mercy.
17. It is forbidden in Islam to torture people.
18. It is forbidden in Islam to disfigure the dead.
19. It is forbidden in Islam to attribute evil acts to God ﷻ.
20. It is forbidden in Islam to destroy the graves and shrines of Prophets and Companions.
21. Armed insurrection is forbidden in Islam for any reason other than clear disbelief by the ruler and not allowing people to pray.
22. It is forbidden in Islam to declare a caliphate without consensus from all Muslims.
23. Loyalty to one’s nation is permissible in Islam.
24. After the death of the Prophet ﷺ , Islam does not require anyone to emigrate anywhere.

Just a little debunking.
#1 Classical texts? You mean the one's written 13 centuries ago? Yes, highly relevant. Study the quran and the hadith when making judgements? I have. It's based on the rantings and deeds of an illiterate psychopath who married his money then proceeded to rape and pillage his way across arabia and beyond. He founded a belief system that relies on the capital and creativity of others to sustain it.
#2 Lawyers are the same the world over!
#3 Hell no! If you simplify things, us imams would be out of a job!
#4 They've been slaughtering each other over these fundamentals for centuries now.
#5 This is only when there is a clear benefits, eg: when the people you wish to subdue have modern weapons and communications then you must have same. Use the internet to propagate your toxic belief system. Or if a truck can deliver the rocks for the post Friday prayer stonings thus expediting the process, so be it! Use a crane to hang people! Otherwise let's keep it in the 7th century.
#6 You can kill innocents as long as they're not moslems. Infidels are not fully human according to the quran.
#7 Only if they don't pay the ransom or can't be used as bargaining chips.
#8 So the invasions after the prophet's death were defensive were they? Buddhist and Hindu India was an existential threat? No they were loaded- cash, culture and potential slaves.
# 9 Millions of mohammedans are getting this wrong aren't they, if a moslem ditches his religion he can legally be killed!
#10 But you can tax christians and jews, it's called 'jizya'
#11 OK but what about Hindus and Buddhists? (see link below and research the history of islamic invasion to the sub continent) But then, why should Yazidis be regarded as those of the scripture? Personally I don't care, I would never hurt a Yazidi for not being part of a book but what makes them part of that book? It vexes me! Am I part of this book?
#12 Can't find this one anywhere, islam has no pope so there's no central authority, this is just the opinion of the authors and the signatories.
#13 But until they do it's open season!
#14 Women have rights within islam, however they are not equal to and have far less rights than men.
#15 Boys are clearly treated better than girls.
#16 Yeah, islamic 'justice'. She only had 3 male witnesses to say she was raped, need 4, she's an adulteress, get down the quarry brothers!
#17 The prophet had a Jew tortured to reveal the loot after taking his village. The prophet sets the example for followers. As it is above, so it is below, did not the Cs say that?
#19 Allah is quite happy when one follows the example of his prophet. In fact he punishes those that don't. If you're a little squeamish about following his example then at least finance those who do,
#21 So how does this square with a multi cultural and multi faith western secular societies? Probably only works with your mid east dictator types like Ghadaffi, Hussein and Assad.
# 22 Just who are the true moslems then? Define. Apparently everyone's born a moslem but we don't know it.
#23 This is meaningless in such a tribal, fractious society
#24 After the prophet died invasions spread islam throughout Persia, Afghanistan, Indian sub-continent, Spain, France, North Africa, Balkans, Russia. Millions slaughtered and enslaved. Cultures destroyed and transformed, not for the better. Still happening, the largely moslem nation of Indonesia annexed West Papua. Largely ignored by the regressive left. Search for 'West Papua Genocide' which it is, on the forum, nothing. Search for palestinians genocide, 30 hits.

Nothing is said above about the treatment of homosexuals, don't they exist? They do, so learned scholars, I take it that it's still OK to execute them? What will it be? Tossed off a building, hung, stoned or beheaded? At least Geert Wilders and Ayaan Hirsi Ali speak out against the persecution of homosexuals under islam. Who else accepts homosexuals? I think Israel does.

Rapes in Sweden, interesting videos by a Balkan refugee living in Sweden.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8kf0zcrJkz7muZg2C_J-XQ
Rapes in Norway, bottom link dates from 2010 before the current 'hysteria'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a56EqUPwyFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7t5ZffkA0A
Articles by Nicolai Sennels, the 'Robert Hare' of the Danish prison system, specializes in 'you know who' and why not? There's a wealth of material in the offing!
http://10news.dk/?p=519
Deinfibulation clinic in Melbourne, Australia, one of many in the west, why do we need such clinics?
https://www.thewomens.org.au/health-professionals/sexual-reproductive-health/de-infibulation-clinic/
FGM in Australia, article from the lefty ABC in 2010, unfortunately still going strong.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-02-06/female-circumcision-happening-in-australia/2594496
Moslem holy man in Adelaide Australia wants allah to kill Hindus and Buddhists.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-mosque-preacher-sheikh-sharif-hussein-directs-fury-at-at-buddhists-hindus-howard-and-obama/story-fni6uo1m-1226701605335
Vladimir Putin, Jews, Israel.....
https://www.rt.com/politics/329517-putin-offers-russia-refuge-to/
http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/09/mixed-signals-from-moscow-putins-russia-israel-and-the-middle-east/
 
Brewer said:
They also ask me why I didn't mention Christianity in this thread, why should I? I'm well aware of Christianity's dark history. I'm talking about this particular event.

Because, you've been trying to make it sound like there is a problem with Muslims in particular, and you are still doing it in your post, rather than a problem with a certain percentage of human beings within all groups and circles. That includes Muslims, Christians and Jews. By doing so, you are contributing to the anti-Muslim hysteria currently prevailing in the US and Europe. If things keep going that way, we are going to end up having another Holocaust, but this time targeted against Muslims, so it's important for people to make a clear stand on this issue.

You also missed the point in Harrison's article about how unlikely it would be for "a thousand" Muslims to have been sexually attacking women on the streets of Cologne; more likely there were a lot of youngsters doing silly things, some of which (a dozen or two?) engaged in actual sexual aggression. Some other of these same Muslims were in fact defending the women, as was reported on this thread. So you wouldn't blame the whole group for the actions of a few, in the same way that you don't want to blame all Germans for what some of them do in the Oktoberfest, right?

Regarding Putin, you also missed the main fact which is that he has invested his military in defending a Middle Eastern regime that Israel considers its enemy and would like to see toppled. By doing so, he is defending Muslms (and others) against yihadists; same yihadists that the Israelis have been known to support at least with medical assistance.
 
Brewer said:
Do a search for Rotheram on the Cassiopeia fora, barely rates a mention. Rotheram was the ongoing grooming and rape of 1400 English girls by 'Asian' men, asian, in this case meaning Pakistani moslems.

I think that may be because many are already aware of the ongoing and endemic paedohphilia within the British establishment, and how that Rotherham story is being used to divert attention.

Is there a reason why Rotherham caught your attention?

Considering the thousands of child abuse cases implicated in this British establishment paedophile network - that spans over many, many decades - that apparently has the power to divert proceedings, 'lose documents' or delay the cases till the death of the perpetrator, one might presume by preventing or diverting the exposure of these criminals will only permit other less influential child abuse networks to proliferate?

But i presume you didn't focus on them due to the 'weight' of their crimes, merely the religion of those committing them.

That doesn't mean it isn't discussed here, but could be one of the reasons why it isn't the main focus.

Just today:

A senior police officer who interviewed Lord Janner 25 years ago about sex abuse [child rape] allegations has blamed the Crown Prosecution Service for allowing him to escape justice.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-35361376


' Alison Saunders admitted that Janner should have been charged in 1991 and that there were two further missed opportunities in 2002 and 2007 '

Also today:

The stars who suspected Savile was a paedophile years ago: Inquiry reveals his reign of terror and how he abused 45 children in 'virtually every BBC building' - so why didn't bosses stop him?

Leaked £10m inquiry reveals Jimmy Savile abused 45 victims at the BBC
Children as young as nine attacked in 'every BBC building' he worked in
Stars knew rumours of interest in children - widespread within the BBC
107 heard he was a paedophile - others heard he had sex with the dead

'Deferential' bosses ignored his abuse to protect then UK's biggest star
Inquiry chief Dame Janet Smith says another paedophile could be lurking


By Martin Robinson, Uk Chief Reporter and Emma Glanfield for MailOnline

Published: 21:26, 20 January 2016 | Updated: 15:50, 21 January 2016

BBC stars suspected that Jimmy Savile was a 'groper and a paedophile' who interfered with corpses but nobody at the corporation tried to stop him, a £10million inquiry has found.

Dame Esther Rantzen, Sir Terry Wogan, Louis Theroux, Nicky Campbell, and Andy Kershaw were among 107 people who admitted hearing rumours and stories about the child abuser's 'darker side'.


A leaked report has revealed Savile was 'untouchable' and abused 45 victims as young a nine in 'virtually every BBC building' and even on live TV, all under the noses of his 'deferential' bosses.

Broadcaster Mark Lawson told Dame Janet Smith's inquiry a common joke at the BBC was: 'What do Margaret Thatcher and Jimmy Savile have in common? They both screwed the miners/minors'.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3409119/BBC-hiding-paedophile-Official-Jimmy-Savile-report-warns-whistleblowing-WORSE-pervert-DJ-raped-abused-children-virtually-BBC-building.html#ixzz3xtp57MrJ
 
We've had high profile and very influential entertainers, Members of Parliament and the house of Lords, and even the Army (bearing in mind this is just in the UK, their crimes abroad rarely make headlines because they're often ignored):

https://www.rt.com/uk/329339-deepcut-rape-allegations-pimping/#.Vp-LuOX7O7U.facebook

Published time: 18 Jan, 2016 17:13 (a few days ago!)

New allegations that recruits were raped and “pimped” out by officers have emerged as calls increase for a public inquiry into the army’s notorious Deepcut training camp.

The new allegations center on the culture of the Surrey facility where the shooting deaths of four army recruits took place between 1995 and 2002. They emerged during a new inquest into the case.

© AparatMediaTV Teen UK army recruit found dead ‘may have been sexually assaulted’

On Saturday, an investigation by The Independent newspaper raised questions about a culture of rape, abuse and exploitation at the camp. It emerged that up to 60 complaints were made to local police by recruits in 1995 alone.
 
Further to the Rotherham scandal - and maybe why it was allowed to go on for so long..

http://www.theweek.co.uk/uk-news/62397/councillors-and-police-had-sex-with-rotherham-abuse-victims


Councillors and police 'had sex' with Rotherham abuse victims

Feb 4, 2015
Sordid allegations emerge as council is branded 'not fit for purpose' by inspectors


Nigel Roddis/Getty Images

Two local councillors, one of whom is still serving, and a police officer have been accused of having sex with victims involved in the Rotherham child abuse scandal.


The South Yorkshire Police constable at the centre of the allegations is also alleged to have passed on information to gangs grooming young girls in the town. A second police officer has been accused of neglecting his duties after failing to report his colleague. Both claims are being investigated by the Independent Police Complaints Commission.

The complaints against the two Rotherham councillors "are understood to have been sent to the National Crime Agency, which is investigating child-sex crimes in the town," according to The Times, which helped expose the abuse in Rotherham and published confidential documents that pointed towards police and council knowledge of the abuse in 2012. [and as we have seen, more often than not, there's a trail leading to the more powerful characters who either pick and choose their victims from the homes OR at least let the corruption run rampant to provide as cover]

The news comes on the same day that a much-anticipated independent inspection report by former Victims' Commissioner Louise Casey declared Rotherham Borough Council "not fit for purpose".

The findings make uncomfortable reading for councillors in a town that has been at the centre of one of [certainly one of many] the country's worst abuse scandals. The inquiry was set up to ascertain the extent of any cover-up and look at the treatment of whistleblowers by Rotherham following last year's damning report .

It discovered a culture of bullying, sexism, suppression and misplaced "political correctness" and a "deep-rooted" culture of cover-ups, reports the BBC.
World news videos : Freezing temps threaten asylum seekers in Europe

Casey's investigation was ordered last year after a report by former chief inspector of social work Alexis Jay, which blamed Rotherham council and South Yorkshire Police for failing to prevent the "appalling" abuse of 1,400 children by gangs of men between 1997 and 2013.

Girls as young as 11-years old suffered rape by multiple attackers, trafficking across the North East, abductions, beatings and intimidation. The reports found that councillors and police officers were aware of the abuse, but chose to "disbelieve, suppress or ignore" it.

The scandal has led to the resignation of a number of high-profile figures including Labour council leader Roger Stone, the council's chief executive Martin Kimber, and former head of children's services in Rotherham, Shaun Wright, who stepped down from his role as police commissioner.
 
Brewer, I really don't know what to say, other than that you manage to defend a guy (Wilders) who openly calls for the imprisonment of all male asylum seekers while making up fear-mongering nonsense about a "sexual jihad" and "sexual terrorism". Plus, if I understood you correctly, you don't like Jews, and at the same time praise the brazenly racist Israel. Then again, it kind of fits, since Israel indeed locks away an entire Muslim population in a huge open-air prison.

Maybe you should focus less on what information you think is missing here and more on the tons of information that IS available here, including in this thread. Then maybe you would also understand more about Putin and his role on the world stage. But then again, if that's your attitude:

Brewer said:
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't care

Maybe you just don't care...
 
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