No Longer Interested in Sex

[SolarMother]

SolarMother, no it was four DIFFERENT women, but they all had this similar basic nature. They are young. It is always in slightly different circumstances and places. I don't know what age I am, I think about that when I've awoken, but I can't get a clue about that. They don't feel like past life connections, they may be concurrent life times or as you say 4D bleed throughs. Whatever is the case they are wonderful dreams. The last one was last week. I look forward to them.LOL

Prior to these dreams about two years ago, I had a vivid lucid dream, awake, it just happened. It was like a very clear movie. I was not human and neither was the partner I was with. We existed on another planet, a very large planet, much larger than the earth. Our race had wings and could fly like birds, but they were not feathered wings, more like membranes. These membranes were coloured like opals, with unique scintillating colours. Our bodies were humanoid, but much stronger and to me more beautiful, our faces were humanoid but quite angular with large eyes. We were engaged in a complex mating ritual very high up in the sky, thousands of feet. It began with the female, my partner, holding me in her arms in a foetus position while she hovered. She then tumbled me out of her arms and I fell like a stone for thousands of feet. At some point I spread my wings and glided to break my fall. I then beat my wings and soared up to where she was hovering, waiting. I began to hover with her, beating wings and facing each other. We then commenced an aerial dance, around and around in complex movements. I knew instinctively that this was a precursor to mating. The vision ended soon after. The images remain clear in my memory. I had the impression that this was a future life.

Hi Wanderer33--Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. Been having to rest my eyes--way too much reading--it happens!
Your dream of 2 years ago sounds wonderful. Lucid dreams are definitely different from ordinary dreams--as if you are in another realm (border!) Thank you for sharing that. I hope you are doing well these days.
Strange, strange times we live in! take care

 

[FireShadow]

You are not alone.

At almost 58 sex is not as important to me as it once was.

When I was younger I was so charged up (can I say the word horny?) that I would have put a cat in heat to shame

But now, it's really not big deal................there is so much more to concentrate on.

Like what sam heck is going on all over the planet.

With Oil Gushers (it was never a spill), birds dropping dead out of the sky by the thousands, fish dying in the hundreds of thousands, we're going to start re-drilling, we're still at war with now several countries, so many people are dying from lack of food and clean water, the weird weather and the ever present (I suspect) alien presence - it's like that movie, "They Live", with the signs, "Obey", "Consume", "Populate", "Don't question authority" (Body scanners, pat downs and cameras on every street corner.................sex is the least of our concerns.

And yet, it's promoted on TV and all forms of media like crazy.

Another distraction.

That does sum up a lot of my attitude as well. Time for fun and games is over! But, I don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater...perhaps change systems and move over to bonding behavours instead...

 

[SolarMother]

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I still struggle with my diet. I am pretty good about not having any processed foods (no MSG or aspartame!) and have cut sugar way down, but am having trouble letting go of wheat and dairy. I finally ordered "Detoxify or Die" and "The Fat Resistance Diet" today (as recommended by Laura). I also ordered a bottle of DMSO and a bottle (edit: oops, that should be book). I have on my shopping list to get a few supplements - vit C, E, B-complex and some magnesium. I may even try some of that progesterone cream everyone talks about.

I am working on a "work around" my deprivation program, mostly I try making small changes that won't trigger it. It would sure be nice to "crack" that program, but years of effort have not yet resulted in success. Until then, the "work-around" is my only option that I can see. I am hoping I can get to a "critical mass" where I get to a point of cutting enough stuff out that I no longer want those "bad" foods. I noticed that this may be a possibility based on reviews of the two books I ordered...(fingers crossed).

Apparently, in my pre-verbal stage of life, I did not get enough to eat. My mother says the doctor told her to feed me a certain quantity, a certain number of times per day (she does not remember the specifics). She said she did that, but I would cry and cry. She said she would then leave the house for hours to let me cry alone as she could not stand the crying. She was only 17 years old, suffering from depression and was living with me and my father in New Mexico - far from her family in Texas (who would have been her support system). Finally her mother came for a visit and saw what was happening and told my mother "You gotta feed that baby more, no matter what the doctor said!". From all reports, I was very malnourished by this time. I have a photo of myself from that time and I can say that I look like I was starving - my eyes look "dead" as well.

That is all so sad! So much interference and awful programming from 'doctors' in the 50's and 60's!
I am glad Nienna Eluch sent you the revised detox diet--that out will be next on my agenda today! I have something else in common with you and that is that I also was a deprived baby re food--I was actually malnurished as an infant and my mother did not have a clue! She tried nursing me and apparently was not getting enough milk, and I would cry and cry--even scream in pain sometimes! I was also collicky like hell, and she did not figure it out until she took me to the pediatrician a few months after my birth!
So, I too, am gradually approaching the detox part as a work around my deprivation program, as you called it--those comforting addictive foods, especially dairy of course!

also, another reason I don't start now is because we are in between homes and so unsettled, and my hubby is building the home and is always starving from working physically really hard. He is the fakir type too, with a very high metabolism, and still needs those carbs that are bad--although we have cut way down on bread, pasta and rice and enjoy those buckwheat pancakes with bacon! mmmm...
I think we will plunge in at Springtime! Is your hubby joining you in the detox quest?
I too am still eating dairy--Hmmmmmm....gotta have that milk product--mostly goat cheese, but I did quit goat milk and yogurt! That is something!

 

[FireShadow]

I think we will plunge in at Springtime! Is your hubby joining you in the detox quest?
I too am still eating dairy--Hmmmmmm....gotta have that milk product--mostly goat cheese, but I did quit goat milk and yogurt! That is something!

Not sure yet if Hubby will join me in the detox quest. He is pretty hooked on cheese. We all have our resistances! But perhaps he may decide on giving up some other things first and then decide about the cheese. I will share the info with him once I get the books and have a chance to read them myself.

 

[FireShadow]

That is all so sad! So much interference and awful programming from 'doctors' in the 50's and 60's!
I am glad Nienna Eluch sent you the revised detox diet--that out will be next on my agenda today! I have something else in common with you and that is that I also was a deprived baby re food--I was actually malnurished as an infant and my mother did not have a clue! She tried nursing me and apparently was not getting enough milk, and I would cry and cry--even scream in pain sometimes! I was also collicky like hell, and she did not figure it out until she took me to the pediatrician a few months after my birth!
So, I too, am gradually approaching the detox part as a work around my deprivation program, as you called it--those comforting addictive foods, especially dairy of course!

also, another reason I don't start now is because we are in between homes and so unsettled, and my hubby is building the home and is always starving from working physically really hard. He is the fakir type too, with a very high metabolism, and still needs those carbs that are bad--although we have cut way down on bread, pasta and rice and enjoy those buckwheat pancakes with bacon! mmmm...

Sad to know we have that "deprivation" thing in common. But, I am heartened by your progress, inspiring.

Sounds like you have your hands full!

 

[SolarMother]

Sad to know we have that "deprivation" thing in common. But, I am heartened by your progress, inspiring.

Sounds like you have your hands full!

thank you!
ah...yes, but don't we all?! one step at a time!

 

[anart]

Lucid dreams are definitely different from ordinary dreams--as if you are in another realm (border!)

It might be worth your while to search for 'lucid dreams' on the forum, since I'm not sure what evidence there is that lucid dreams are in another 'realm'. Here is a start: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=8116.msg57976#msg57976 and there is this as well, http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/dreams_disinformation.htm - though the forum also has many other discussions on it.


Also, dairy really is evil you guys, so any efforts made to completely remove it will be hugely beneficial - there is no question about that.

 

[SolarMother]

Lucid dreams are definitely different from ordinary dreams--as if you are in another realm (border!)

It might be worth your while to search for 'lucid dreams' on the forum, since I'm not sure what evidence there is that lucid dreams are in another 'realm'. Here is a start: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=8116.msg57976#msg57976 and there is this as well, http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/dreams_disinformation.htm - though the forum also has many other discussions on it.


Also, dairy really is evil you guys, so any efforts made to completely remove it will be hugely beneficial - there is no question about that.

Thank you for that info on lucid dreams. I look forward to learning more on that topic...

 

[wanderer33]

Thanks SolarMother.

I know what you mean about over reading. TMI is becoming a way of life. Yes, things are getting more weird every day.

Peace be with you. :)

Anart, that link to the thread on lucid dreaming provides an interesting theoretical discussion. Not one that I would agree with, but interesting
from a non-experiential point of view.


I was just reading (my poor eyes!) an interview by a Mr. X on the Camelot site and had to laugh when I read....

It's a lonely place to be. Being denied your own experiences by others.

I have no proof, nor do I need any. Most people, if offered truth and proof right in their face would have some argument against it. It would be "fake" or (my favorite) "Photoshopped." ....well, I don't even know the reason. Nor do I care. I know what I saw. I know what I know.

 

[Jefferson]

Excellent thread. Thanks to all of you who shared here - I found the links very informative.

When I look back at particularly the initial years of my marriage (which is now over except for the official divorce papers) and we were married young, I sure could have used this information in at least attempting to build a bond. Well we had the conservative "religious programming" so one just had to be forgiven, accept the trials as blessing from da Lord and the holy spirit would guide.... so maybe even if I HAD this information at the time, I would have dismissed it (it would not have become real knowledge as it likely would not have been put into practice.

However, this thread has helped me getter a better understanding of my machine and also helped to shed some light on the deterioration of my marriage.

 

[fire in the Lake]

Another possible explanation.. lol

(WARNING WARNING WARNING- METAPHORE USED HERE-LOL) metaphor and symbology help to grasp deeper meaning in anything/everything!


there is hardly a traditional/aboriginal culture that does not reflect the truth of the matter(when you know how to see with clear eyes and with symbology and metaphore-hense a lost message)- whether it be mythology, scripture or just understanding what is important for the mind and growth of a higher energy within a being.

I would like to ask you a question or 2.... did this start/stop with the NEED to grow in truth to self and growing in knowledge- was it relative to this growth?
from the posts I read there was a lot of guessing though do not have the time to read all replies to you from others- so this may already be offered..

there is a universal 'tale' that derives from an ancient truth known globally till quite recently- maybe 2000 or even less years.. the tale is told differently in all cultures with a truth at its core and the elaboration of the story is shown by the cultural differences geographically by each culture/tradition. Most of these 'tales were either made redundant and relegated to 'folk tale' or mutilated via literalism due to our inability to process thought/experience or logic at the capacity once held by these truly global cultures.



I'll give you 2 stories, one from the East and one from the West. But firstly my way of telling it very clearly and to the point.


We have a base animal nature that comprises the bodily urges that seek pleasure for the physical part of our body (among other things like instinct and such). While we give these attention there is not a lot for the mind to grasp onto as we continually expell our energy chasing object after object, sexual pleasure after sexual pleasure- sensation after sensation, without ever grasping the essence of what we are forfeiting in regard to attention to the mind and the growth of our higher intellect, nor are we clear about the essence of what we are 'chasing' either within or without. When one starts looking deeply into themselves and the reality of the experiences they express themselves in (and react to emotionally to), this reverts the sexual energy back to the mind for the acquiring of wisdom instead of pleasure thereby reversing the circular stagnation of chasing your (and others)tail. Growth instead of stagnation, spiralling upward instead of in circles and are truly represented in the patterns of experience in each persons life for clues to our need to move forward.... 'stuck in a rutt' is a term used for repetition in experience that is not welcome- though this truth is hardly EVER applied to the sexual nature of man expecting both men and women to WANT sex as a natural pathology until they literally cant (never acquiring a wholesome mind as they are lost to their image and impressions on others/ and self worth and gratification of self- It would seem society is upside down on this matter.
And yet it would be seemed proven at every clear interpretation of ancient and middle aged works. -

Our Westen Tale lies in the bible (and let me say I probably read it differently to most people given I am not religious and nor is it meant to be read with any literal historicity... sorry for reducing Laura's biblical historical research here to nothing more than a wander in the dark) It is transmutation of carnal desire into Wisdom- the fable of King David and his quest for Wisdom via the acquiring of knowledge and truth alone. This transmutation of the "upper thigh" gives birth to the path laid out in front of him. The lifting of his carnal desires to the growth of mind, the expansion of perceptions giving a greater glimpse of reality than before, and the son/sun that was birthed by the 'virgin'- our will -............ Solomon- the 'Christos' or subconscious awareness in the man/woman. Not a literal Solomon or Jesus as this would mutilate what is a Divine parable of psychological and biological transformation that was fully constructed by the greatest mind ever on this planet- not barbarians or historians or human sacrificers, but poets and scientific artists of self and expressors of the laws of life that were so deep and out of our sight, they had to anthropomorphise the runs in the ladder of growth to human identities.... anyway- getting off topic- time for a trip to the East..


this is very simple in symbolic terms...
we have a red base chakra and a blue one for the mind... (the colours here are expressed universally in cultures of the world too- some variations though)
the base is the drive for all things instinctual to the body alone and is also driven or atrophied through emotional thinking and limited understanding.. low base carnal man = high sex drive and animalistic behaviour. If our emotional experiences are not qualified through the intellect, we find ourselves emotionally reacting via our base chakra. When we start to understand our experiences in truth and look for understanding within each experience, the emotional reactions lessen as we pass our experience through our minds and understand our emotions thereby transmuting the red through blue to raise them both to purple- the colour of royalty- attained knowledge- the crown or 7th chakra... there is a lot more to detail but you have 'AN' answer that I completely feel confident in offering safely and for your growth and have provided a couple of examples so as to not blow this out my bum at you ;)..

so in the end- dont judge yourself if you feel you are growing in wisdom- qualify emotional reactions (perhaps sex was an emotional feeling of comfort/acceptance/or simply pleasure of the highest quality at that time) revultion at the socially excepted standards of today to me is totally natural given the quality or lack thereof in regard to our purpose and true intended human condition, and the lack of substance in the sexual material available- perhaps the rest of the world will catch up, but I also see this as an intended trap by the ruling class to keep us from the fruit of knowledge we were to inherit collectively around 2000 years ago- before Rome spread its carnal wings decimating any semblance of truth in what was a norm for the free thinkers of the day and cultures of yester-age.


hope this helps somewhat explain your natural reaction to objective and subjective growth- shouldn't have one without the other- one informs the other qualifies.

 

[StrangeCaptain]

Re: Another possible explanation.. lol

hope this helps somewhat explain your natural reaction to objective and subjective growth- shouldn't have one without the other- one informs the other qualifies.

Hello fire in the Lake,

I would like to mention that our use of the words objective and subjective on this forum carry a certain amount of context. Those who find a home here as regular contributors view our esoteric path as one of approaching as objective a view of existence as is possible. This in our definition of objectivity excludes augmenting our subjective view of the world other than understanding as deeply as is possible our own subjective biases. To augment one's subjective knowledge of the world would amount to traveling a fundamentally different esoteric path that is not compatible at our level of existence with seeking objectivity .

I am not the most informed nor the most eloquent poster here by a long shot, so a good place to read about the context within which we use the word "objectivity" is here:

http://cassiopedia.org/glossary/Objectivity

Thanks!

 

[SolarMother]

I still struggle with my diet. I am pretty good about not having any processed foods (no MSG or aspartame!) and have cut sugar way down, but am having trouble letting go of wheat and dairy. I finally ordered "Detoxify or Die" and "The Fat Resistance Diet" today (as recommended by Laura). I also ordered a bottle of DMSO and a bottle (edit: oops, that should be book). I have on my shopping list to get a few supplements - vit C, E, B-complex and some magnesium. I may even try some of that progesterone cream everyone talks about.

FireShadow, where did you find your DMSO? I would like to buy some, but am looking around for good prices and reasonable shipping... thank you.
Well, after making blinis and just loving them, wheat/bread is now out the door! That fried chicken in blini batter recipe of Laura's that is in TDC mag sure is Yummmmmmmmmm.
The pasta we stocked up on months ago says 'gluten free' so we are using it up and then will buy no more. Looking for reasonable prices on wild rice too...difficult.
Have you tried Xylitol for sweetening? It works well with so many recipes.

 

[FireShadow]

I still struggle with my diet. I am pretty good about not having any processed foods (no MSG or aspartame!) and have cut sugar way down, but am having trouble letting go of wheat and dairy. I finally ordered "Detoxify or Die" and "The Fat Resistance Diet" today (as recommended by Laura). I also ordered a bottle of DMSO and a bottle (edit: oops, that should be book). I have on my shopping list to get a few supplements - vit C, E, B-complex and some magnesium. I may even try some of that progesterone cream everyone talks about.

FireShadow, where did you find your DMSO? I would like to buy some, but am looking around for good prices and reasonable shipping... thank you.
Well, after making blinis and just loving them, wheat/bread is now out the door! That fried chicken in blini batter recipe of Laura's that is in TDC mag sure is Yummmmmmmmmm.
The pasta we stocked up on months ago says 'gluten free' so we are using it up and then will buy no more. Looking for reasonable prices on wild rice too...difficult.
Have you tried Xylitol for sweetening? It works well with so many recipes.

I got mine from Amazon where I also got the book. Those blinis sound great. Have not quite gotten all the sugar out of my diet yet, but I do have it down to almost none. Easier for me to just have a little fruit (not too much!) instead. Have been experimenting with avoiding wheat and dairy and observing (not just physical feelings, but any resistances I manifest as well). Am having a little success in focusing on what kinds of "superfoods" I should be adding - keeping my mind busy with that and filling up on those foods seems to allow little time on thinking I am missing something and fills me up so I don't feel deprived. Chip, chip, chip away at those darn resistances!

 

[SolarMother]

Chip, chip, chip away at those darn resistances!

YES---Just like your quote says! "Nothing is ever easy" -from "Wizard's First Rule" !!
I should have asked you, what size DMSO did you buy, and how much was it? What was the shipping? I am thinking a gallon--but that is SO much---but if I share it, it might make sense.
A website I found charges almost $50 for a gallon and $15 for shipping. Even if I wanted to buy 16 oz for almost $7, it would be $15 for the shipping! This is why I am asking around (you at least.)
thank you!