I almost exclusively concentrate on more positivity and healing in my such practices. I mean, I don't often try to remember or allow issues with a negativity charge to come up, but I think, nonetheless, what you described occurs either subconsciously or after the practice when I feel the negativity again and also still remember or am still in touch with the freshly generated positivity, and then an almost automatic reprogramming occurs in my mind for healing, for getting rid of prejudices, etc.
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Well, I feel I have to agree with the "neutral awareness" issue. I can't currently be sure but there really appears to be a profound "neutrality" factor about the absolute, pure awareness, pure being, although I'm still inclined to see it as "pure positivity" too.
I had referred to a possible association with the atomic model in one of the forum threads. You know, there is the nucleus in the middle and electrons around it or in its periphery. For some reason, I associate 7D with the nucleus, which consists of two types of particles: protons (positive) and neutrons (neutral). So, if this approach is more or less accurate, this might mean that pure being/awareness is characterized both by positivity and by neutrality somehow.
The "purely impersonal" nature of the absolute also makes one deduce that there's "no individual" there who experiences positivity. The experiencer and the experienced are said to be absolutely one and the same. The explanations by Maharaj on this matter appear to me somewhat contradictory among themselves, although I allow the significant possibility that it's me who fails to understand rather than contradictory explanations made by Maharaj, who explains things to different visitors on different dates from different perspectives depending on their mentalities as perceived by him.
The R&C cosmology says that positivity is gradually increased and negativity gradually decreased from 4D to 7D, where it must be absolute or 100% at least in the big bang phase, where one actually becomes "all".
The C's say "7D recognizes no classifications related to duality". Here the term "recognize" sounds interesting to me. I think this statement doesn't necessarily mean that 7D doesn't contain any polar nature, like positivity. The nonduality (oneness) of 7D might be the nonduality (oneness) of "positivity" in itself. It is said, "all beings are one" (i.e., one and the same being), so it's still "being", not "non-being". The C's themselves say that being and non-being also comprise a duality.Session 16 September 1995 said:
Session 10 December 1994 said:
So, it sounds almost impossible for 7D to not involve any kind of polarity because it seems to be the very polarity of "being" as opposed to "non-being". And, of course, we know that 7D in its wider sense (as all densities) also involve negativity (STS).
The association between 7D and electrons as the negative charge in the atomic model as discussed in the sessions is also interesting:
Session 3 August 1996 said:
Session 15 March 1997 said:
I must admit that I can't satisfactorily understand the above explanations (both because English not being my native language and also because I'm not knowledgeable about the atomic principles). I mean the relation between 7D and electrons. Is 7D the direct source of electrons or not? Are they sourced indirectly (aether boundary with material continuum)?Session 29 March 1997 said:
This also reminds me the issue of the "Source of STS". Maybe the two issues are closely related? Since STS (negativity) as opposed to STO (positivity) is to be completely deserted before eventually reaching 7D, I suspect that 7D might not be the source of STS (negativity)? On the other hand, one considers the fact that nothing can fail to have its source in 7D somehow, because, eventually, all is 7D.
STS seems to be closely related to materiality/physicality and, in this context, the above C's explanation about electrons ("aether boundary with material continuum" being where electrons come from) sounds very relevant.
Then, "gravity" being emitted by electrons is altogether very interesting. Is this the same "gravity" which is "God"? God being emitted by electrons??? But then the concept of "illusion" comes to mind. Illusion is closely related to physicality/matter, which is closely related to STS/negativity. Is physicality/matter God? In one sense, nothing can fail to be God, but in another sense, we know that 7D in itself (beginning from 6D, in fact) is absolutely etheric and has absolutely "zero" physicality/materiality, if I'm not skipping some very basic and important info.
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I want to suggest another approach to the positivity vs negativity issue.
The C's say they are beings of "light". I think 7D/God is also described as pure light, the purest light. Our Sun and other stars are also sources of light.
It seems to me that, eventually, being pure light is our destiny. It's our very essence, self, identity. So, our existential journey is one of gradual transformation, into our pure essence, into pure light, which I think is also called pure awareness and pure being. Apparently, it's a state in which no negativity, no STS, no problem, no paradox can occur as it is purely undifferentiated oneness.
So, sometimes I try to consciously imagine this gradual transformation into pure light, awareness, being. I imagine that I'm transforming here and now, even if in an extremely small amount. That makes me, when it does, feel like advancing towards it, towards my eventual and beautiful destiny. I believe that what we call "relaxation" is an important part of this transformation. The C's say each density further into the essence is easier or more effortless, more flowing, than the previous one. This also sounds like a gradual relaxation, into pure awareness, being, light.
The C's say they are beings of "light". I think 7D/God is also described as pure light, the purest light. Our Sun and other stars are also sources of light.
It seems to me that, eventually, being pure light is our destiny. It's our very essence, self, identity. So, our existential journey is one of gradual transformation, into our pure essence, into pure light, which I think is also called pure awareness and pure being. Apparently, it's a state in which no negativity, no STS, no problem, no paradox can occur as it is purely undifferentiated oneness.
So, sometimes I try to consciously imagine this gradual transformation into pure light, awareness, being. I imagine that I'm transforming here and now, even if in an extremely small amount. That makes me, when it does, feel like advancing towards it, towards my eventual and beautiful destiny. I believe that what we call "relaxation" is an important part of this transformation. The C's say each density further into the essence is easier or more effortless, more flowing, than the previous one. This also sounds like a gradual relaxation, into pure awareness, being, light.
Hi, palestine. I must admit that I couldn't understand what you are trying to explain.
palestine
Jedi Master
Hi, you seemed very much focused on 7D , its principles and you looked like working with it. Reading your posts show me a mono-focus on it, while much of the forum is rarely expanding that much. Not a critic in any way!
I thought that if I was in such a position of trying to explain things from a 7D perspective, the above is what I could say.
You seem to seek to understand principles, laws, starting from 7D (around 7D - the term comes back a lot and I don't see many 4D) - so I just hinted at that 4D things may be embed, when spectating 7D.
For example, you seem to seek precise points & ideas about "positivity" and how to achieve more positivity. And that you seem to seek it in studying 7D. I was saying that you could find those things if you switch "7D" with "4D" in your approach!
Thank you for the clarification, palestine! Much clearer now. And your point can really be valid. I've already begun to think over it. This might be about the need for a balance between inductive and deductive reasoning. My focus on 7D might be involving an over-reliance on deductive reasoning, perhaps; i.e., a potential imbalance based on some prejudice, some mental blockage or complex.
palestine
Jedi Master
Note that I really think that a focus on 7D is not wrong. Conceptually speaking, it's just trust & faith in God. What else is required, after all? I use to pray the Service To Other's Christ for answers, myself, for example. Openly, I seek inspiration. Just like that. Throwing a prayer in the air, without any single form of expectation. I tell myself: "maybe, in two days, I will see something. Maybe not". Maybe I will receive some form of help. Maybe not. I believe that he receives it. And so it's a form of muscle.
I believe that you are technically perfectly 100% right in the following BUT I cannot attach any proportion to it. It could then range from "urgent matter" to "barely irrelevant". You know best.
You can split this into two parts:
Both can be improved if required. But if it works don't change anything! I don't want to tell you to change anything! You know best and you progress as you feel, yourself, that is the way. If you found a way with your present approach, it's good.
I have myself many many blockades and things. I have been walking a road, some time ago, and what I saw, it looked familiar with *some* things you hint at. I wanted to share with you some thoughts. I don't know all and I hope that I could convey this to you, only small points about which I can say one or two things.
And so, I wanted to provide you with elements for reflection, in the hope there is anything.
See you around & good luck! We are all different, let me know how best to communicate!
Yeah, working for me, to some extent. Certainly far from perfect but I believe that the efficiency will gradually increase. And such discussions also help this process.
You might have noticed my interest in advaita/nondualism. This philosophy is closely related to the identification with 7D. And there are many similar suggestions in the Ra-Cassiopaean cosmology; e.g. "You're all that there is", "You are Prime Creator", "All is one", etc.
But, of course, this theme of oneness (essential goodness or peace) can't possibly be the only focal point of our life. Life is about balance. There are so many issues to deal with. Our religious/philosophical inclinations and questionings are one of them. And all of them are intereactive somehow; pieces of the same puzzle.
I deem prayers, especially heartfelt ones, to be very important (helps awakening and sincere statement/declaration of one's intention & resolution). That's a significant part of the equation. Another part that's as much significant to me, in accordance with the "nonduality" teaching, is to experience my Godhood (my true self) here and now. As I tried to explain in various threads, 7D is not just a far away density. It's here and now. All is 7D. Our identity as 7D is more valid than our 3D status, as it's timeless, never changes. I love pondering on this subject but I don't necessarily claim that this is the only or the best way of thinking or believing for anyone to advance towards 4D/STO. This is just one of the parts of the picture. Interaction with 7D (with one's essential self) can take very different forms depending on the person. Each does this in their own peculiar way, I suppose. I like speculating on the statements/clues offered in the R&C cosmology in an effort to connect some dots, including those about STO vs STO, 4D, 5D, 6D, and 7D, which is inherent in all.
I believe that STO/positivity is the essence of being. It will lead to total-existence (oneness with all), while negativity will eventually lead to non-existence.
palestine
Jedi Master
Hi bozadi!
Thank you for your post!
Yesterday, when I read some of your posts, I forgot to tell you that I enjoyed your following saying much:
I sincerely wish you good luck in your entreprise.
Oh. I finally understood something: you are in deductive reasoning - was thinking it was related to "working with 7D" - when, it's an approach and you THEN proceed to study 7D (for example).
My bad if I missunderstood this. Again, very much good luck with a "deductive approach", then. Looks pretty interesting. (If I had to scrutinize myself in regard of my present approach, it would be different - abit of deduction but not fully. Hard for me to relate - but I understand great profitability).
Overall, then good luck it's when we listen to ourselves that we can do great steps. We are all different and I have that feature that makes it more profitable for me to sometimes pause, look around, and work in partnership with others.
Thank you!
Thank you for your post!
Yesterday, when I read some of your posts, I forgot to tell you that I enjoyed your following saying much:
I believe there are great opportunities when proceeding as such (but I am not sure!).
A bit... a bit.. I should deep dive in all the posts, there are a lot! I don't know anything about advaita so you would be the most precious communicant if we were to talk about it
I understand better. Pretty interesting scope in itself. Pretty interesting approach in itself.
I sincerely wish you good luck in your entreprise.
Oh. I finally understood something: you are in deductive reasoning - was thinking it was related to "working with 7D" - when, it's an approach and you THEN proceed to study 7D (for example).
My bad if I missunderstood this. Again, very much good luck with a "deductive approach", then. Looks pretty interesting. (If I had to scrutinize myself in regard of my present approach, it would be different - abit of deduction but not fully. Hard for me to relate - but I understand great profitability).
Overall, then good luck it's when we listen to ourselves that we can do great steps. We are all different and I have that feature that makes it more profitable for me to sometimes pause, look around, and work in partnership with others.
Is this "Ra" or something else, please?
Thank you!
palestine
Jedi Master
Ah... Thank you! Partnership!
I'm not sure myself if I used those terms accurately. What I meant to say was in parallel to your point; a possibly imbalanced stance at "there and then" (potentiality) instead of "here and now" (actuality), although the two can be very close, even identical, in some ways.
Well said.
One of the things that motivates me most is (gradually more) conscious observation of the duality between positivity and negativity. STO is more than closely related to positivity, and the same applies to STS and negativity.
I'm excited by the idea of consciously and individually increasing one's positivity for positivity's sake. When I say "individually", I don't mean to take a stance against plurality or communality. Quite the opposite, in fact, since STO is so much about "others", obviously. But, then, this doesn't change the vital importance of individuality especially while we are still in 3D. There's a balance to be established between individuality and communality. And they are interactive for sure. I talk mostly for the situations in which we are alone, either voluntarily or involuntarily; situations in which we are forced to observe and decide for what we are, what we should be like, and what our relationship with all else (with Life/Universe/God) should be like. Being ever more positive seems to be the way to me because it seems to be all that is needed. Here again I want to share my view that being (positivity) and knowing (awareness) are identical in essence. To some (probably significant) extent, this increase of positivity is facilitated by the negativities we suffer. For instance, if we are not resolute enough as to what or how we should be, our sufferings caused by some extreme negativities can effectively help us to be keenly aware of what or how we shouldn't be like, thereby leading us to positivity. I believe that positivity/being is us, our essence, towards which we are supposed to lead, although negativity is also a natural and necessary part of life/existence with the drive of which some entities can advance up to a certain, limited, level. Apparently, STS will be in an inescapable process of ever diminishing after 4D (maybe after mid-4D), which the C's say is the highest level for active (growing) STS.
I believe that our efforts for ever increasing our knowledge/awareness of various aspects of our life function somehow to deepen and consolidate our self-awareness. All is us. Sometimes we can benefit more by focusing on externalities and sometimes directly on our very self. There's balance to be established between the two, which are eventually one. As for the individual part of the equation, we are reminded of the vital importance of "work on self", within the context of which I personally find conscious individual concentration on becoming ever more positive to be exciting. In my case, I find it necessary to suspend almost all my mundane existence as much as possible for a focus on positivity to be successful to some extent. The success level I currently enjoy is not much but promising anyhow. The problem is mostly about my failure to suspend "the world" half of the equation long or effectively enough. Also, as I and others mentioned before, there are some very adverse rebound effects too, sometimes staggeringly so. The more I lean on positivity, the more hurtful so-called "ordinary" negative conditions of the worldly life feel like. They hurt more than ever, at least for some time, I suppose. This is a difficult but probably necessary challenge. Complications will probably lessen as one become more and more proficient. Hesitance causes more unnecessary suffering. But then more suffering can motivate one for getting more resolute, if one wills so. In the end, it's all up to the individual. Patience and awareness pay for sure.
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