Organic Portals: Human variation

[Graalsword]

Reading some stuff about the human evolution I stumbled upon this graph from wikipedia about the different "races" of hominids.
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Those are aproximately the same questions I have been having in mind. It is interesting the part where the Cs say "first manifestation was apelike" - But I have no idea if they referred to individual souls who were put there or an OP-like soul pool, or it could also be that they were all OP and when souls entered bodies mutated to modern human...

 

[Risen]

Another question about OP's that has been lingering in my mind for years is, if a souled human marries an OP will the children be souled, non-souled or some sort of hybrid?

 

[anart]

Another question about OP's that has been lingering in my mind for years is, if a souled human marries an OP will the children be souled, non-souled or some sort of hybrid?

From what we currently understand, the children can be souled, or they can be OPs, just like a souled individual can be born from two OPs or an OP can be born from two souled individuals. There is also a continuum of development involved here, so not all OPs are 'created equal', just like not all souled individuals are on the same level of development. Of course, as always, this is just a working hypothesis - there is more that we don't know about this than there is that we do know (as always).

 

[Risen]

Thanks Anart,
I guess the important thing is work on oneself and continue to develop to one's highest potential through applying what one has learned in all areas.
I would think that an OP who brings their self to a higher state would be benefiting all others in their "soul pool" as well as having the possibility of becoming an individualized souled entity.
In other words, it does not matter where we came from, it's where we are going.
:)

 

[Eboard10]

Another question about OP's that has been lingering in my mind for years is, if a souled human marries an OP will the children be souled, non-souled or some sort of hybrid?

From what we currently understand, the children can be souled, or they can be OPs, just like a souled individual can be born from two OPs or an OP can be born from two souled individuals. There is also a continuum of development involved here, so not all OPs are 'created equal', just like not all souled individuals are on the same level of development. Of course, as always, this is just a working hypothesis - there is more that we don't know about this than there is that we do know (as always).

When you talk about the continuum of development, in this case, are you referring to a generational type of development or a personal one? In other words does the soul require a body with a certain genetic predisposition from the parents in order to be born or are the genes, when born, (the so-called junk DNA to be more specific) just a refelection of one's level of consciousess?

 

[Al Today]

Conjecture here. Perhaps at one time in the past, OPs were within distinct bloodlines? But through the centuries, the bloodlines have been so intermingled, intwined, and mixed together that the physical DNA makeup necessary for an OP is mere a statistical occurrence within the current population. Each one of us is different in some way within families, lending a possibility for one child being souled and the other not...

 

[anart]

Another question about OP's that has been lingering in my mind for years is, if a souled human marries an OP will the children be souled, non-souled or some sort of hybrid?

From what we currently understand, the children can be souled, or they can be OPs, just like a souled individual can be born from two OPs or an OP can be born from two souled individuals. There is also a continuum of development involved here, so not all OPs are 'created equal', just like not all souled individuals are on the same level of development. Of course, as always, this is just a working hypothesis - there is more that we don't know about this than there is that we do know (as always).

When you talk about the continuum of development, in this case, are you referring to a generational type of development or a personal one?

I meant that for what we would describe as OPs, there are those who are highly advanced and in the process of individuation and there are those who are just starting out as part of the OP soul group - and every step along that continuum (in addition to probably millions of variations that we can't even imagine). The same is true with those who have the 'seed of a soul', at least to my understanding.

In other words does the soul require a body with a certain genetic predisposition from the parents in order to be born or are the genes, when born, (the so-called junk DNA to be more specific) just a refelection of one's level of consciousess?

I don't know for certain, but the C's have indicated that genetics marry with soul potential, when present, which seems to mean that there is a soul and genetic matchup that takes place so that the soul can be expressed in physical form, and have 'room to grow' so to speak. It would be logical that soul energy (and soul-development energy) would affect genetic expression, though, so I'd say it's quite likely that there is a combination of factors at work. fwiw...

 

[whitecoast]

Conjecture here. Perhaps at one time in the past, OPs were within distinct bloodlines? But through the centuries, the bloodlines have been so intermingled, intwined, and mixed together that the physical DNA makeup necessary for an OP is mere a statistical occurrence within the current population. Each one of us is different in some way within families, lending a possibility for one child being souled and the other not...

I think that is Mouravieff's conclusion as well: the bloodlines are so intermingled that soul potential doesn't breed true, even in families with high proportions of adamic humans. Similar to genetic factors linked to phenotypic psychopathy.

 

[ivansword]

Maybe organic portals are not race per se. Maybe they are "born from STS frequencies and doings of humans".
Maybe they are children "of the Moon" / "Moonchilds" .Maybe they are in some way representing "collective karma(s) of humankind (un)doings"
Maybe they bodies and chakras can't be magnetized,but maybe they together(with "cream" of "The Elite") are "The Illuminati"

Maybe it is very similar like in that movie "They Live(1988)" (without Hollywood nonsense of course)

I can tell you one clue how to recognize a "organic" portal from humans.
It is hair.I "claim" that this is the most basic clue for recognition.If you open your eyes you can see 2 basic different types of hair(and I don't mean color of hair )

You could just think why "Grays" ,nor "Lizzies" don't have hair.
That,and bellow is connection with programming/propaganda these days.
If you open your eyes you will see that most of man "models" are with shaved hair,and as of women "models" it is flat hair.

I think that this comes froms direct programming from STS forces,from Consortium

 

[anart]

Hi ivansword, have you had a chance to read the Wave Series yet? You seem quite confused on a lot of topics from your posts thus far and I think reading it in its entirety (or re-reading it) might help.

Maybe organic portals are not race per se. Maybe they are "born from STS frequencies and doings of humans".
Maybe they are children "of the Moon" / "Moonchilds" .Maybe they are in some way representing "collective karma(s) of humankind (un)doings"
Maybe they bodies and chakras can't be magnetized,but maybe they together(with "cream" of "The Elite") are "The Illuminati"

Maybe it is very similar like in that movie "They Live(1988)" (without Hollywood nonsense of course)

I can tell you one clue how to recognize a "organic" portal from humans.
It is hair.I "claim" that this is the most basic clue for recognition.If you open your eyes you can see 2 basic different types of hair(and I don't mean color of hair )

You could just think why "Grays" ,nor "Lizzies" don't have hair.
That,and bellow is connection with programming/propaganda these days.
If you open your eyes you will see that most of man "models" are with shaved hair,and as of women "models" it is flat hair.

I think that this comes froms direct programming from STS forces,from Consortium

 

[Cosmos]

I can tell you one clue how to recognize a "organic" portal from humans.
It is hair.I "claim" that this is the most basic clue for recognition.If you open your eyes you can see 2 basic different types of hair(and I don't mean color of hair )

You could just think why "Grays" ,nor "Lizzies" don't have hair.
That,and bellow is connection with programming/propaganda these days.
If you open your eyes you will see that most of man "models" are with shaved hair,and as of women "models" it is flat hair.

I think that this comes froms direct programming from STS forces,from Consortium

Can you back up any of those claims by evidence or is it just your imagination?

 

[ivansword]

Can you back up any of those claims by evidence or is it just your imagination?

No I can't.But I know I'm not lying,nor imaginating.
Just don't bite my leg already.I sense that you took my words as some kind of attack,but who is to judge,the writer or the words?

I know one thing for sure,and that is when my experience tells me something over and over ,and the results are the same every time it is The Truth .

But then again maybe the Cassiopaean phenomenon is just imagination of few people here ?How you know for true that they aren't?Have you seen 6 density STO thoughtform ? No? Me too, but I Know from my Experience,that they exist.
When Faith is merged with Knowledge rooted in Awareness in you you will know my friend.And for faith to come in higher emotional center ,one must have higher emotional center,which need to be "magnetised".

That is why "organic portals" can never have the Faith in them,they aren't capable of strong,continuous emotions that will lead them through life.Emotions are indeed "horses" just like Gurdijeff said.
From my experience only Higher Emotions can give you meaning in life. Without emotion who tells you "To you I share" life is just pure meaningless loop that repeat itself


And clues are everywhere,you just need to free your mind and set it on "receiving mode" like in meditation,mirroring all the way,when you do something(and when you "do not").And then set it on "merging mode" when you contemplate.

Look in history of "Dark Ages"and pictures/paintings that represent "women" in that period.Look at myths of origin of Rome,Sumer etc. Look in Bible,for one example this verse
Luke 7:28

I tell you, among those born of women there is no one greater than John; yet the one who is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

Look at "Gods" that are nurtured or made from animals and you will know,you will find the link who is/is OP and who is and who is not born from organic portals

As of hair I know(from my Experience and Experience of others) that hair is very important factor for channeling The Truth and The Energy. When you cut it to the skull you are "left out in the cold" so to speek.There is ancient legend of Samson in Bible among others
Then there are programmed neonazis
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism
who shave their hair to "bone" (which in a way represent "killing all history" from Higher Emotional and Intellectual Centre)
and NAZIRITE(s)(NAZI+RITE) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazirite
who mustn't shave their hair

And so on.
But still there is way to determine a "(maybe fully) Souled Human" from "organic portal in form of man/woman" by hair.

I will not ,nor shall I tell you this beacause you(and I don't mean it only for you Pashalis,I mean it for everyone) could abuse that knowledge.

It is for everyone to recognize what is written here,if is truth or nontruth

Still maybe it is my imagination,who is to judge ?

 

[anart]

Can you back up any of those claims by evidence or is it just your imagination?

No I can't.But I know I'm not lying,nor imaginating.
Just don't bite my leg already.I sense that you took my words as some kind of attack,but who is to judge,the writer or the words?

No one is biting your leg, ivansword, so please refrain from accusing people of such. The fact is that your posts thus far have been nonsensical - they don't make any sense. So, for this reason, you will be asked questions to clarify. If you can clarify, that's great, if you cannot and continue to introduce noise onto the forum, then your posting privileges will be removed. I hope this clarifies for you and if you have not yet read the Wave Series, please do so, so that you can clarify some of these concepts for yourself.

 

[mcb]

...I know one thing for sure,and that is when my experience tells me something over and over ,and the results are the same every time it is The Truth .
...

Well, if there's anything we've learned here it's that that is not enough. There's a whole lot you need to know before you interpret your "experience," and it isn't something that someone can reliably do on their own. But if you prefer your way, go right ahead. I don't want your leg, or even part of it.

 

[Oxajil]

Maybe organic portals are not race per se. Maybe they are "born from STS frequencies and doings of humans".
Maybe they are children "of the Moon" / "Moonchilds" .Maybe they are in some way representing "collective karma(s) of humankind (un)doings"
Maybe they bodies and chakras can't be magnetized,but maybe they together(with "cream" of "The Elite") are "The Illuminati"

Maybe they are not.

You could just think why "Grays" ,nor "Lizzies" don't have hair.

How do you know they don't have hair? And how is that important? Maybe it has nothing to do with any ''energy'', and it is simply part of their biological make-up.

That,and bellow is connection with programming/propaganda these days.
If you open your eyes you will see that most of man "models" are with shaved hair,and as of women "models" it is flat hair.

Or maybe ''fashion'' just changes. I think it has more to do with trying to convey people to look in a certain way in order to be accepted instead of allowing people to creatively find their own way in how they'd like to be presented as to the outside world (of course within learned limits of what is appropriate and what is not).

who shave their hair to "bone" (which in a way represent "killing all history" from Higher Emotional and Intellectual Centre)

Or maybe they shave their heads, because hair can stand in the way when in combat.

It is for everyone to recognize what is written here,if is truth or nontruth

If you determine truth by subjective opinions, feelings and so forth, I don't think you will get close to it. Have you ever thought about the possibility that most of the time you have been feeding an illusion of what you think the truth is? Or the possibility that you may be an OP yourself? How to determine an OP is a difficult thing, as the Cs have said themselves. Why worry and put energy into trying to recognize OP's when so much else is going on that one can learn from and that which is based on objective data? I.e. psychopathy etc...