Paris shootout, explosions, casualties

[Renaissance]

If anyone wants to watch RT live coverage online, here's the link:

https://www.rt.com/on-air/

 

[Meg]

These things should NOT be happening! To anyone, anywhere! Not to people going out to eat on a Friday night in Paris, not to people catching the metro in London or Madrid, not to people in NYC, not in Mumbai, not in Syria, not in Gaza. Not to universities in the US. Not people getting on a plane to go or come back from their vacations. This is SO WRONG on so many levels. It's inexcusable, I am sick of it, the sheer shameless boldness of going around (or the psychos at the top, sending their robotic stooges around to do their job) killing all kinds of people randomly, just because a leader started to be more friendly with Russia, or because the nation is not following the official line. It is ridiculous, totally inhumane, utterly inexcusable.

I can't believe that in one lifetime I have seen so many senseless attacks on real people, I can't believe that it is becoming the "norm" and we are all getting used to seeing this kind of sh#$@%#$@% and we NEVER see the real culprits pay for it, they always get away. And they barely started showering us with the propaganda yet, all the BS they will be saying tomorrow, the aftermath, the closing down and fencing in and the scapegoating of other innocent people! I don't accept it, it is unacceptable to me, and I am so sorry for all the terror people are going through, all the pain for losing their loved ones, and I am SO pissed off at the perpetrators! Damn it, why don't the comets ever come when you want them to?!

It is so disturbing on so many levels. We're living in an insane cesspool! It's horrifying, shocking, and down right evil. It leaves me speechless. You captured it well, Alana.

You all take care over there.

 

[Shared Joy]

It'll be interesting to see if there are any other events in other EU countries, and other countries closing borders.
If that happens, the hostage situation ends badly and they link them to refugees, I'm calling a Reichstag event which will likely lead to camps for refugees. For their/our 'protection'.

« Reply #45 on: Today at 12:39:04 AM » Redfox

This was my first thought precisely, also that this is the second act of the power play that began with Charlie-Hebdo in January of this year, for the french 'volet'. This is in my mind, only the beginning of something that will expand, And although i hope i am totally wrong, the month of November will be as trying on the outside, as it was for forum members in October on the inside. If that makes sense? So, if i were to make a guess, i would think that Germany will be next, and how much this resembles the late 70's early 80's with 'red brigades' 'bande à Bader' and 'action directe'. Only that today we know better! Or do we?!

i am horrified but not that shocked, as this seems like a logical second step to what has already been tried. And as the C's said, once one massacre is swept under the carpet, the next is exponentially worst, and so on! My heart goes out to people of all denominations that will have to deal with this type of thing in coming months. It seems intrinsically related to the 'migrant crisis' crisis, and the rest of the evil agenda being played upon us as a whole! Sad day for humanity, whereas in reality, the Pentagon murders this many people daily with their Drone program for humanity's sake (sarcasm). Peace be with you all!

Closing of borders was decided right yesterday, before the shootings, go figure!

_http://ee24.com/france/news/border-control-introduced-france-1-month/

Starting from November 13, on the French borders with all neighboring countries the control of entry will be introduced. Restriction will last until December 13, for the work at border crossings will be involved more than 30 thousand policemen.

Restrictive measures are related to the preparation for the UN World Conference on Climate in Paris from 29 November to 12 December.

Security measures will be strengthened gradually: from 13 to 19 November the measure will be selective, closer to the event control will be strengthened. Travelers will be required to provide documents approving their right to stay on the Schengen territory.

another source
_http://www.infowars.com/france-restricts-border-for-climate-summit-but-not-migrant-crisis/

“France will impose border controls for one month from 30 November for the UN Conference on Climate Change in Paris,” the BBC reported Nov. 6. “French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said it was a precaution ‘because of the terrorist threat or risk of public disorder.'”

Isn't it a bit suspicious?

 

[Sol Logos]

wow i did't even realise we were friday 13 / 11 !! so much synchronicities, i saw the habitual 3 military patrols in gare de l'est and telling myself how useless they were, well nowi'm concerned about what will come next with the programming of the people and my familly and how am i going to stand it?

Friday the 13th marked the day the Templars, a tool of the powers that were, but clearly needed to be disposed of - they were massacred in France, literally all of them bar the top guy, who eventually went on to start Freemasonry or so the story goes. Perhaps a similar thing with ISIS a tool of the PTB.

 

[mkrnhr]

Could be interesting:
_https://www.rt.com/news/321967-calais-refugee-camp-fire/

A huge fire has broken out at the vast ‘Jungle’ refugee camp near the French port of Calais, just hours after a string of bloody attacks struck Paris

also:

There had been immediate speculation that the camp was set on fire in retaliation for the Paris attacks, which left over a hundred dead. However, Mignonet refuted these allegations.

“That is two separate things, and the fire there has nothing to do with the attacks in Paris tonight,” he told RT.

he, Mignonet, is the Calais deputy mayor.

On a psychological level, given the recent events, the population could make an association: terrorism crisis - migrants crisis

 

[Renaissance]

Fox News is reporting that an arrested suspect in France told the police, "I am from ISIS":

http://<iframe width="420" height="...WQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

This sounds like it may be from a quote that has been going around in other stories where an attacker reportedly said, "I am Syrian", however the specific mention of being 'from ISIS' isn't in other reports.

 

[Alejo]

Just read that the declaration of state of emergency in france gives the government the power to stop everything, from transit of people and vehicles in designated areas, to gatherings that they may consider dangerous for national security, and in some cases even the application of the military to enforce said state of emergency.

another thing i wanted to share with you guys was this (in spanish)

_http://mundo.sputniknews.com/mundo/20151114/1053627008/francia-ataques-ei.html

in this story it's said that the website Sky Tg24 has declared that Isis has just attributed itself the attacks on Paris, and that it was as a "vengeance for Siria" and the it would be "France's 9-11" something i believe will certainly be turned by the MSM into "it was ISIS and it's because of Siria thus its Russia's fault"!

 

[herondancer]

Haven't read the whole thread yet, but here are some eyewitness report from the theatre: three don't mention masks, or shouts of Allah or terrorist slogans, just the last interviewee. Given the 'narrative shaping' by 'witnesses' in 9/11, this seemed inportant

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/11/13/eye_witness_accounts_from_inside_the_bataclan.html

Eye-Witness Accounts From Inside the Bataclan
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Eye-witness reports have begun to emerge from people who escaped the Bataclan, the Paris concert hall where gunmen opened fire and took hostages earlier this evening, reportedly killing more than 100 people before a police raid ended the violence.

Radio reporter Julien Pearce described the initial attack to CNN's Wolf Blitzer:

Blitzer: Julian, I understand you were inside the theater during this concert that American rock band eagles of death metal were performing but you made it outside. Tell us what you've seen and heard

Pearce: Well, I've seen two terrorists from my point of view with ak-47s Kalishnakovs entering the concert room and firing randomly to the crowd. People yelled, screamed and everybody lying on the floor. And it lasted for ten minutes, ten minutes, ten horrific minutes where everybody was on the floor covering their head and we heard so many gunshots. And the terrorists were very calm, very determined and they reloaded three or four times their weapons. And they didn't shout anything. They didn't say anything.

They were in masks and wearing black clothes and they were shooting at people on the floor, executing them. And I was luckily at the top of the stage, in front of the stage, so people started to try to escape to walk on people on the floor and try to find an exit. And I found an exit when the terrorists reloaded their guns in the meantime, and I climbed on the stage and we found an exit. And when I went on the street, I seen 20 to 25 bodies lying on the floor and people were very badly injured, gunshot wounds. And I took a small girl, a teenager, she was bleeding very badly, and I run. I ran with her for like 200 meters and I found a cab, a taxi and I let her in and I said to the cab driver, go to the hospital and I have some friends right now who are still inside the Bataclan who are hiding because they are not sure if there are still terrorists in there, and they are hiding in some kind of room in the dark and they text me, and they are very afraid, of course, and they are waiting for the police to intervene, but it's been over two hours now and this is terrible. What happened was terrible. I mean, honestly, 15 minutes, ten minutes of gunshots firing randomly in a small concert room.

I mean, it's not a huge concert room. It's a small one. 2,000 people were there maximum and it was -- it was horrible.

Blitzer: Julian, with these terrorists you say you saw three or four, you say they were dress the in black. Were their faces covered with masks?

Pearce: They were not wearing mask. They were unmasked. I've seen the face of one guy, one terrorist. He was very young. He was like 20 years old, 25 maximum. He wasn't wearing a beard or something. Like a random guy holding a gun, that's all. There were not masks.

Blitzer: Did you hear any words coming out of his mouth? He speaking in French or Arabic or anything you could discern?

Pearce: Nothing. Nothing. I heard nothing, just the yelling and screaming of the people. They didn't shout anything. They didn't say anything. Not Allah akhbar or something like this. They said nothing. They just shot. They just shoot. They were just shooting to people.

Blitzer: So they weren't questioning anyone who they were, they would just look at someone and shoot and kill them is that what you're saying?

Pearce: Yes.

Blizter: You saw 20 people shot and killed? At least 20 bodies there on the floor.

Pearce: Yes, yes, I can confirm that. Some of them were dead. Some of them were very badly wounded, but it was a blood bath.

The second acount comes from the French newspaper Libération, which attributes it to an anonymous witness.

I was in the pit in the front, it was a concert where the music was loud, I heard cracking noises, I turned around, and I saw a figure with a baseball cap by the door in the back, he was shooting in my direction. People started to fall and throw themselves on the ground. I thought that the guy next to me was dead. I think that's the case. I ran, I jumped the barrier and I got out in the first movement of the crowd by the stage. I got out through the emergency exit on the opposite end of the room. We took refuge in a cafe, barricaded on the second floor. People believed us right away. It's a war here, there was gunfire again just recently, we can only hear sirens, we're waiting to be evacuated in a cafe on Boulevard du Calvaire.

Le Monde offers another anonymous account:

Everyone got down and was walking all over each other after the gunshots. The stage caved in, there were so many people. I lay down against the sound console. Then 20 to 30 bullets were fired, they were shooting at random. I saw assault weapons. I walked on top of bodies, there was blood. In the street there were dead bodies.

A woman named Jenny Watson spoke with France 24:

I was on the first floor of the venue. And I was with a friend and we were in the middle of a concert listening to the music, having a good time, and then all of a sudden we heard gun shots. They were quite high pitched; at first I thought it was a joke on behalf of the band. I thought they were maybe playing a joke on us. And I didn’t actually believe it. And the shots kept going and going and going, and people started screaming and people started ducking, you know, hiding behind the seats and the chairs. And that’s when we realized we had to get out.

There were lots of people panicking but it was still quite calm. A group of us managed to escape through a safety exit that was near the first floor of the venue. We were in the stairwell… and they opened the doors... and we all ran out in the middle of the street escaping for our safety... I saw a few people down, I saw some blood, I saw someone who was shot in the leg. But I don’t think I saw anyone properly down, but it was quite horrible. I’m only realizing it now to be honest.

The Guardian has been interviewing numerous witnesses in Paris, including 57-year-old Marc Coupris:

“It was carnage,” Marc Coupris, 57, told the Guardian, still shaking after being freed from being held hostage at the Bataclan, a popular concert venue.

“It looked like a battlefield, there was blood everywhere, there were bodies everywhere. I was at the far side of the hall when shooting began. There seemed to be at least two gunmen. They shot from the balcony.”

“Everyone scrabbled to the ground. I was on the ground with a man on top of me and another one beside me up against a wall. We just stayed still like that. At first we kept quiet. I don’t know how long we stayed like that, it seemed like an eternity.

“I saw my final hour unfurl before me, I thought this was the end. I thought I’m finished, I’m finished. I was terrified. We must all have thought the same. Eventually, when a few gendarmes came in slowly we began to look up and there was blood absolutely everywhere. The police told us to run.”

CNN producer Pierre Buet reports on how the police raid unfolded.

Libération interviewed a 23-year-old Turkish woman who identified herself as Fahmi B. and told a harrowing story of escape:

I was in the pit, when suddenly I heard noises, like fireworks. At the time I thought it was part of the show, then I turned around and I saw a person who had just taken a bullet in the eye. She grabbed her head and collapsed. Then, everyone got on the ground, we were hearing shots. The shooters were shooting at random at people who were lying down, everyone was playing dead but it didn’t make any difference for them. I was lying in the fetal position but my feet were blocked by someone’s body. I managed to slide my feet out of my shoes and I ran backstage, because an exit was just nearby, with three other people, who were injured.

AFP interviewed one Pierre Janaszak, who says he overheard the terrorists talking to hostages while hiding in a bathroom:

I locked myself in a bathroom upstairs, there were four of us in the bathroom, they didn’t come there. They were guarding the hostages, and I heard them talk with them. They were saying that they had 20 hostages, but I didn’t go see and verify. … I heard them trying to negotiate with the police out the window. I clearly heard them say to the hostages, “It’s Hollande’s fault, it’s your president’s fault, he doesn’t have to intervene in Syria.” They also talked about Iraq. … Then we heard shooting when the police intervened. There was shooting in all directions, there were more explosions. The police opened the door (of the bathroom) and told us to get out. They asked me to take off my shirt before leaving, to be sure that I didn’t have a bomb on me.

We'll be updating this post as more information and descriptions surface.

 

[angelburst29]

Why didn't Obama offer the same 'help" to Putin and the Russian people, when Flight A321 went down?

RAW: Obama speaks on Paris Attack - 'We will 'bring these terrorists to justice'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6LFODOMhPY

US President Barack Obama said America will do what it can to bring the "terrorists to justice" while addressing the press from Washington DC, Friday, in light of the violent attacks that rocked Paris earlier in the day.

 

[herondancer]

It may be a sideshow, but this tweet speculates that France was threatening not to join TTIP

https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/665311370271813632

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/10/france-threatens-outright-termination-of-ttip-corporate-trade-negotiations.html

 

[Pierre]

Now the death toll has reached 120.

 

[dugdeep]

Now the death toll has reached 120.

RT is reporting over 150
_https://www.rt.com/news/321883-shooting-paris-dead-masked/

 

[A Jay]

These things should NOT be happening! To anyone, anywhere! Not to people going out to eat on a Friday night in Paris, not to people catching the metro in London or Madrid, not to people in NYC, not in Mumbai, not in Syria, not in Gaza. Not to universities in the US. Not people getting on a plane to go or come back from their vacations. This is SO WRONG on so many levels. It's inexcusable, I am sick of it, the sheer shameless boldness of going around (or the psychos at the top, sending their robotic stooges around to do their job) killing all kinds of people randomly, just because a leader started to be more friendly with Russia, or because the nation is not following the official line. It is ridiculous, totally inhumane, utterly inexcusable.

I can't believe that in one lifetime I have seen so many senseless attacks on real people, I can't believe that it is becoming the "norm" and we are all getting used to seeing this kind of sh#$@%#$@% and we NEVER see the real culprits pay for it, they always get away. And they barely started showering us with the propaganda yet, all the BS they will be saying tomorrow, the aftermath, the closing down and fencing in and the scapegoating of other innocent people! I don't accept it, it is unacceptable to me, and I am so sorry for all the terror people are going through, all the pain for losing their loved ones, and I am SO pissed off at the perpetrators! Damn it, why don't the comets ever come when you want them to?!

It is so disturbing on so many levels. We're living in an insane cesspool! It's horrifying, shocking, and down right evil. It leaves me speechless. You captured it well, Alana.

You all take care over there.

I agree with the sentiments here. I'm so angry with it all I just want to scream!

But something I was considering or wondering, along with how it's all likely to be 'spun', was if it was on some level more than coincidental that these attacks happened the day after Laura posted her article.

 

[JEEP]

Friday the 13th marked the day the Templars, a tool of the powers that were, but clearly needed to be disposed of - they were massacred in France, literally all of them bar the top guy, who eventually went on to start Freemasonry or so the story goes. Perhaps a similar thing with ISIS a tool of the PTB.

From Wiki

King Philip IV of France, deeply in debt to the Templars, had Molay and many other French Templars arrested in 1307 and tortured into making false confessions. When Molay later retracted his confession, Philip had him burned upon a scaffold on an island in the River Seine in front of Notre Dame de Paris, in March 1314.

Another angle tho probably way out in left field> I remember reading somewhat relatively recently, that the death of Jacques de Molay - esp being burned alive - was still a high priority to be avenged. I remember being surprised that this could be so considering it happened centuries ago! Do people really carry grudges that long?!! The details as to who/what/where/when re this have unfortunately gone down the memory hole - I just remember my shock that some mysterious group was still planning to get back at these perceived enemies.

Just another bizarre facet surrounding the insane goings on playing out in disgusting horror.

 

[mabar]

Read it here first:

Germany were 'scared' prior to France friendly due to earlier bomb threat, admits coach Joachim Low

Germany manager Joachim Low has admitted his side were 'scared' ahead of Friday night's friendly with France due to an earlier bomb threat in the capital.

Olivier Giroud and Andre-Pierre Gignac scored as Euro 2016 hosts France beat world champions Germany 2-0 in an encounter overshadowed by attacks in Paris as the game took place, which left dozens dead.

Police helicopters circled the stadium at the final whistle after French President Francois Hollande had left for the interior ministry.

'We are all in shock,' said Germany coach Low post-match. 'The game and the goals move into the background on a day like this.

'We were told in the changing rooms what had happened. All of us on the bench were a bit scared because of a bomb threat earlier today when we spent three hours outside (our hotel).'

Earlier on Friday, the German national football team had been evacuated from their hotel in Paris due to a bomb threat; an anonymous caller phoned in the threat at 9:50 am on Friday morning.

Police with sniffer dogs went on site to check for potential explosives and a security perimeter was established around the hotel. ---there are photos of the revision at the site

An explosion at the Stade de France during the match left three people dead and several more injured.

The president of the French Football Federation, Noel Le Graet said: 'The evening was spoiled by the events around the Stade de France. There was an explosion at the entrance of the J door causing three deaths and some wounded.

'But at this time, the stadium is secure. People can exit normally. The President of the Republic had to leave very early because of the shootings that took place in Paris to join the Interior Ministry.'

Thousands of fans banded together on the pitch after the final whistle, before evacuated. They were visibly distressed at their situation as French police attempted to regain control.

There was a shootout inside a nearby restaurant on the Rue Bichat, two explosions near the stadium and another shooting at the Paris Bataclan concert hall where terrorists are said to be holding around 60 people hostage.

Machine gun fire and screams were heard from inside a restaurant on Rue Bichat, close to where the Charlie Hebdo shootings happened in January, at around 9pm.

There has been unconfirmed speculation that the person behind the attacks was a suicide bomber.'But at this time, the stadium is secure. People can exit normally. The President of the Republic had to leave very early because of the shootings that took place in Paris to join the Interior Ministry.' ---curious the repetition
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