Part 7: LiveStream with Laura, Jay & Hunter: If the Chaos Gets Worse (And It Will) How to Survive

Haven‘t seen it posted on the forum, so here is a reminder for today, 20:00 CET:

Part 8: the Truth about Bible History

Join Jay Campbell, Hunter Williams, Harrison Koehli and Laura Knight Jadczyk as we discuss the recent Billy Carson and Wesly Huff debate along with the following talking points:

👉Influences on the Old Testament - what do they imply about Biblical History

👉 The limits of New Testament Scholarship

👉 How not to read religious texts

👉 When to trust the experts and when not to

👉 Why academia and religion do not mix well

2PM LIVE on YT, Instagram and X.
 
Haven‘t seen it posted on the forum, so here is a reminder for today, 20:00 CET:

Part 8: the Truth about Bible History

Yes, now Part 8 that I've just finished watching. Fantastic interview.

Good on the guys, Jay and Hunter, and well done Laura and Harrison!

Like the honesty from the guys on working through these matters in such a short time, while developing a lens of hyperdimensional awareness to try to see it through. No easy thing, and yes, Jay and Hunter, wild times. Buckle up.

Was wondering who and how you both would bring in others - writers, and you both did just that; a from Russell Gmirkin to Ashworth going back.

From Adam and Harrison, her is old Gmirkin.


P.s., Harrison, thanks for the John Carter heads up, and Laura, that is quite the analogy of a Tsunami's water going out first.
 
Here is a summary of the podcast with some quotes.

Summary of Part 8 Podcast: “The Truth About Bible History”

Jay Campbell, Hunter Williams, Laura Knight, and Harrison examine biblical history from a critical perspective, challenging both traditional religious interpretations and some modern alternative views. The discussion explores how Greek philosophy, Pauline Christianity, and historical reinterpretations shaped the biblical narratives we have today.

Laura Knight, a historian with over 35 years of experience, presents a re-evaluation of biblical history, arguing that much of the Old Testament and early Christianity were later constructs influenced by Greek philosophy. Harrison, an independent biblical researcher, adds critical insights into the assumptions that both mainstream Christians and alternative theorists, like Wesley Huff and Billy Carson, make when interpreting ancient texts.

The conversation critiques Wesley Huff’s apologetics, noting that many biblical scholars operate under flawed assumptions, such as treating the Gospels as historical records rather than theological and literary constructs. A key focus is the role of Paul in shaping early Christianity, highlighting how his teachings predate the Gospel narratives and provide a different vision of spiritual transformation. The discussion also extends into hyperdimensionality, spirituality, and the implications of seeing reality beyond materialist perspectives.


Highlights
  1. Greek Influence on the Old Testament: The Old Testament was likely compiled after 272 BCE, drawing heavily from Greek philosophy, particularly Plato’s Republic. Many of its laws and governance structures resemble Greek models, not ancient Israelite traditions.
Quote edited: “The interesting point Russell Gmirkin makes is that the writing of the Old Testament actually follows the plan laid out by Plato of how the perfect Society could be created: they should have a religion and beliefs, they should have ideas about how everything is all done and a history that goes together.”

2. Biblical Scholarship and Circular Reasoning: Many biblical scholars assume the Bible is historically true, then try to find evidence to support that assumption. Archaeological findings contradict key biblical events, such as the Exodus, Solomon’s Temple, and the great Kingdom of David and Solomon.​

3. Billy Carson vs. Wesley Huff Debate: Laura Knight argues that the discussion between Billy Carson and Wesley Huff was not a true debate but rather two perspectives talking past each other—one treating biblical texts as historical documents and the other as apologetics.​

4. Paul’s Role in Christianity: Paul’s writings predate the Gospels and lack references to key events like Jesus’ baptism, betrayal, or resurrection in the way the Gospels describe them. Paul’s message was philosophical and spiritual, not biographical.​

5. The Gospel of Mark as a Metaphor: The earliest Gospel, Mark, was not intended as a historical account but rather a literary work based on Paul’s teachings, meant for illiterate audiences.​
Quote: “the experts I think at this point in time agree that the writings of Paul are the oldest Christian writings you know Christianity as we understand it and Paul doesn't know anything about a Jesus of Nazareth.”
Quote: “Mark would be the first gospel because Mark was written based on Paul and this has been proven”.
Quote edited: “There are definitely parts in the gospel of Mark and the rest of the gospels where you look at it and say, ‘oh that sounds a lot like what was in Paul’. Of course, with the previous assumption being the gospels come first in the New Testament, Paul was just quoting the New Testament or quoting the gospels, but the gospels didn't exist yet it's very clear from Reading Paul's writings that the gospels were written afterwards.”

6. Hyperdimensionality and Spiritual Reality: The podcast challenges materialist views and discusses paranormal experiences, reincarnation, and spiritual evolution, suggesting that consciousness extends beyond physical reality.​
Quote Laura (edited)- On the proclivity of people falling for apologists like Huff and the literal and simplistic belief in Christianity:
“People are really feeling very uncomfortable with the way things are and also there are probably a couple of generations that haven't been going to church, they haven't read the Bible and they don't know anything about it so they are really completely like blank slates. They don't know anything about biblical studies so when they see a presentable fellow [like Huff] who's very sincerely talking about four witnesses and they are willing to believe the most minimal signs of authority. [Huff] is speaking with authority, talking about his studies and he whips out his piece of cut up Papyrus to show how hard he's studying and that's ‘proof’ of how dedicated he is and how knowledgeable he is because he's got these things in these little glass frames (waving his authority around). This is kind of kind of a hypnotic action, with his words and his repetition.

“Basically people are hungry for something and maybe they're being manipulated to go in that direction. I don't see it as a very profitable direction for some people but on the other hand for people who don't have the intelligence or the inner will or intestinal fortitude to really ask questions and go out on limbs and don't have the intellect to deal with things like hyperdimensional space, that might be more comfortable for them. [Especially] when we're talking about the hyperdimensional reality and the potential occupation of that reality by denizens that are hyperdimensional i.e. aliens, beings with really stupendous abilities and powers. [These denizens] may or probably will be introduced into our reality in the not-too-distant future because if you listen to what's being said by whistleblowers and military people and what's going on in that field right at this present time, that is scaring some people. They want to go with the ‘oh my God I've got to get Jesus’ because if I don't get Jesus the aliens are going to get me or conversely Jesus is an alien which is even worse! They don't understand that what we've traditionally called ‘aliens’ or demons and vampires or other types of creepy critters probably were hyperdimensional beings interacting with our reality. That’s not so wrong but the problem is that they've always been doing that. The records are there and go back through history thus it is going into another mythical space. It is going to be in our best interests to deal with something that is partly material and partly ethereal and probably a whole lot of technological, even if that technology is partly material and partly ethereal.”

7. The Cross as a Symbol of Triumph: Paul’s understanding of the cross was not about Jesus' crucifixion but about spiritual victory over the physical world, aligning with Roman military symbols of triumph.​
Laura: ”Paul wanted us to understand that we Are Spiritual Beings. His whole idea of Christ on the cross as a Triumph - it was the Triumph of the spirit obeying God despite any physical manifestation to the contrary. For Paul a cross was a symbol of Triumph. Paul’s Christ went to his death willingly to demonstrate that the spirit the soul of the hyperdimensional realm was more real and more important than the physical body.”


Key Takeaways
  • The Old Testament was not an ancient Hebrew work but rather a Greek-influenced text created to establish a new religious framework.
  • Paul, not Jesus, was the real founder of Christianity, and his ideas were later transformed into Gospel narratives.
  • Christianity’s origins were much more mystical and philosophical than modern believers assume.
  • Biblical scholars often operate on flawed assumptions, failing to critically assess the literary and historical origins of biblical texts.
  • Spirituality extends beyond traditional religious structures, incorporating hyperdimensional experiences, reincarnation, and consciousness studies.
 
Thank you for the show!!! 😍

I was laughing so hard when Harrison said how when reading the Wave, Laura writes „how stupid she was“ and how now it is clear - what is clear???? 😅🤣 yeah, same here!!! 😅

Also, thank you for listing and showing the books you used in your research, i.e. Gmirkin; they all sound super interesting!
Would you say that they are scholar books and need some backround knowledge in Biblical studies or any interested person can read it?
 
Just marvelous. Absolutely marvelous. Thank you all.
I bought From Paul to Mark about a year ago, but didn't read it. Now I must. This dialog got me unavoidably interested in a variety of topics; and elicited a long list of reasons to seek out information, understanding, and answers to previously unasked questions. Time to start reading........
 
Great episode guys and Laura! I have a feeling like I'm holding Ariadne thread leading me through labyrinth. Oh and I never heard anyone talk about symbol of the Cross and Crucifixion the way you did, it was like something deeply revealing and meaningful touched me in that. I'm reading through FPTM so I'm slowly starting getting the picture of Christianity, and it's a fascinating rabbit hole!

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Part 8: The truth about Bible History.

Laura said:
I´am deffinitely not anti-spiritual,I have a completely different view of reality tan most people have…for example the beliefin the Temple of Salomon, the kingdom of David and followed by the kingdom of Salomon.

The temple of Salomon is a Centerpiece of many occult activities, ideas, rituals and so on…so, the exidstene of Temple of Salomon is accepted by them as being as given .

Archeology says it isn’t so, and relly good biblical research also says it isn’t.

So at the time that of the temple of Salomon’s kingdom was supposed to eist, the city of Jerusalen was about FOUR hectáreas and maybe 2000 peoples máxim, So, there was not great Kingdom of David and Salomon.
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Avoid the mirages of History.

Precisions like these are indispensable to understand History in the measure of reality, without ideas that deform the minds of people who become disoriented and enter into a labyrinth of fables and absurd ideas or, what is worse, receive half-truths that separate them from reality, preventing them for long periods from putting history in its proper measure and delaying the ways to acquire true knowledge.
 
Just - finally - managed to watch this next instalment. What a great way to spend the afternoon!
Always a good conversation; always lots to think on with lots of mental connections made... and lots of things noted down to follow up on (and books to buy..!)
Thank you all, you uplift and inspire. :clap:
 
What a great thought provoking conversation, part 8, from start to end, with very good questions from Jay and Hunter. The explanations, answers and references from Laura and Harrison were so helpful to get history of religion in order, also to get a deeper understanding of FPTM. Thank you all so much and please continue!
 
What a great thought provoking conversation, part 8, from start to end, with very good questions from Jay and Hunter. The explanations, answers and references from Laura and Harrison were so helpful to get history of religion in order, also to get a deeper understanding of FPTM. Thank you all so much and please continue!

What's Up Everyone!

Hunter, Myself, Harrison and Laura are back for episode 9 launching Sunday at 2PM EST (New York Time)

Part 9: Beyond Disclosure: Underground Bases, Higher Dimensions, Alien Abduction and Cryptozoology

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Join Jay Campbell, Hunter Williams, Harrison Koehli and Laura Knight-Jadczyk as we discuss Harrison's amazing new book:

Beyond Disclosure

We'll be covering the following points:

✅ What is the nature of the NHI question?
✅ Is Alien abduction a real phenomenon?
✅ If it is, what is their agenda?
✅ What does the government's study of the Skinwalker Ranch suggest about the hyperdimensional nature of our reality?
✅ What is the true nature of Portals, Cryptids and Human-Alien Hybrids?
✅ Why these topics are unlikely to ever be disclosed

And so much more!

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