Philosophy of education and educational psychology

[Il Matto]

the system does not really factor in "the psychology" as it really is

Whether or not individual educators see things 'as they are', the psychological assumptions of our state education systems don't include the idea that there is significant variation in human cognitive ability and competence. Inevitably this creates tensions in a 'one-size-fits-all' standardised system and often gives rise to a legalistic imposition of rules and policy.
As you've suggested, the 'common psychological worldview' (and that of education policy makers) doesn't take - enough? - account of the existence of characteropathies in a minority of the population.

I was thinking that, at least, we would be able to ask the teacher "hey, wouldn't it be that you could indeed assert that some kids are... different and ... that it would be somehow a polarization towards ... bad... something like that?!" And that we could get an answer.

But given what you say, well, it can be that it would not be successful indeed. If those teachers have the mental level of the basic redditors / virtue signalers, well, chances are that it will not work because the indoctrination is too strong. In addition, chances are that some educators are just STS in sheep clothing. Remains a small part of dedicated people who'd be able to positively comment.

I have no doubt that some educators would be able to identify an 'intuition' along those lines (I know I have), but the difficulty is that that many of those will assume, for instance, that the child who bullies and manipulates others always does so because deep-down they are "really very hurt and suffer from low self-esteem", and what follows are all those therapeutic overlays I mentioned above. As I suggested, I think this comes from a place of genuinely good moral intuition, but not one that is informed with regards psychopathologies.
As to your suggestion that some educators are "just STS in sheep's clothing", I've understood that to mean that some educators bear characteropathies / psychopathologies - is that right? Assuming that my interpretation of that is right, I would say that it must inevitably be the case that a minority do, though I don't think that the education sector attracts as many of these types as other lines of work - even our modern system primarily selects for people who care about the wellbeing and development of others and, for the most part, doesn't exactly offer much in the way of lucrative hierarchies of power and influence to climb!

I mean: would it be time for an assessment of those places? Did anything took place, in a concealed way? Do we have LGBT & virtue signalers at those places?

I would certainly be in favour of an appropriately in-depth psychological training for educators (as Lobaczewski would conceive of it), as well as selection based on moral as well as cognitive competence (as opposed to letting anyone with a university education apply to train as a teacher).
Thank you for engaging with this discussion @palestine