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Thank you for help, I didn't want to embroil my personal opinion but If you want I could describe life of my good friend which is preschool teacher. She ended bechelor studies in special children education. She earning about 300$ per month. She work 5 hours per day with about 20 childrens from which 4 required special care which couldn't be prowide by preschool authorities so she must take care of this large group. After work she need to prepare some educational aids for classes and go on studies. The best thing from all of that is that she must from this sallary pay for her studies becouse as a teacher she must still increase knowledge otherwise she will be fired. She love "her" children and she fell a lot of pain when no one, either country and parents don't take care about their proper education. Of course there are a lot of different ways of being teacher in this country, and ways to make monay from it without commitment but there always a black sheep.
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
Teaching is a time intensive profession which does not end with just the time in classroom. Something that many people simply to not consider or understand. To not be paid well in a profession as important as this is criminal, but it happens.
People are being squeezed and for all the wrong reasons. Here for instance we have something all use, electricity prices. It should not have the price dynamic that is seen in this table. But thanks to the scam started by Al Gore and his friends it is happening and robbing people for NOTHING but the profit of a few. I'm sure sanctions on Russia are not helping Polish producers and their farmers. But pay they must by not being able to do business with a huge market close by. End result must be dropped earnings which then effects wages.
Page 85 and 87 of this report shows interesting stats regarding Poland, a country with a large farmer population.
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Hi_Henry
The Living Force
This is an old study but rather interesting as it shows that the problem was seen a long time ago (2002). Did anything chance ? Well apparently not for the better.
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angelburst29
The Living Force
Poland's ruling Law and Justice party (PiS) says 'no' to the euro and believes Warsaw should only adopt the common currency when its economy is as big as Germany's, PiS leader Jaroslaw Kaczynski said on Saturday.
Poland's Kaczynski says 'no' to the euro as part of election campaign
FILE PHOTO: Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS), delivers a speech during the party's convention in Warsaw, Poland September 2, 2018. REUTERS/Kacper Pempel/File Photo
Kaczynski was speaking at a PiS convention in Lublin, eastern Poland, ahead of the European Union election in May, which is seen as a test for the party and its major opponents ahead of a general election in Poland later this year.
We say ‘no’ to the euro, ‘no’ to European prices,” Kaczynski said. “We will adopt the euro someday, because we are committed to do so and we are and will be in the European Union, but we will accept it when it is in our interest.”
“It will be in our interest when we reach a level very close to Germany (in) GDP level, standard of living.”
Poland is obliged under its EU accession commitments to join the euro zone at some point.
PiS has said previously that Poland should not hurry to join the currency bloc, but it is now reiterating the argument to attract more supporters ahead of the vote.
While most Poles support Poland’s membership of the EU, they are not so unanimous over the euro, opinion polls suggest.
PiS has the backing of 38.7 percent of the electorate, while the European Coalition has 36.2 percent, an opinion poll by pollster IBRIS for private radio station ZET showed on Saturday.
Poland broke EU law by lowering judges' retirement age, court advisor says
Poland has failed to uphold the independence of its Supreme Court, the advisor to the EU's top court said on Thursday, arguing that the lowering of judges' retirement age breaks European Union law.
Poland's Kaczynski says 'no' to the euro as part of election campaign
FILE PHOTO: Jaroslaw Kaczynski, leader of the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS), delivers a speech during the party's convention in Warsaw, Poland September 2, 2018. REUTERS/Kacper Pempel/File Photo
Kaczynski was speaking at a PiS convention in Lublin, eastern Poland, ahead of the European Union election in May, which is seen as a test for the party and its major opponents ahead of a general election in Poland later this year.
We say ‘no’ to the euro, ‘no’ to European prices,” Kaczynski said. “We will adopt the euro someday, because we are committed to do so and we are and will be in the European Union, but we will accept it when it is in our interest.”
“It will be in our interest when we reach a level very close to Germany (in) GDP level, standard of living.”
Poland is obliged under its EU accession commitments to join the euro zone at some point.
PiS has said previously that Poland should not hurry to join the currency bloc, but it is now reiterating the argument to attract more supporters ahead of the vote.
While most Poles support Poland’s membership of the EU, they are not so unanimous over the euro, opinion polls suggest.
PiS has the backing of 38.7 percent of the electorate, while the European Coalition has 36.2 percent, an opinion poll by pollster IBRIS for private radio station ZET showed on Saturday.
Poland broke EU law by lowering judges' retirement age, court advisor says
Poland has failed to uphold the independence of its Supreme Court, the advisor to the EU's top court said on Thursday, arguing that the lowering of judges' retirement age breaks European Union law.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Poland and Greece are both pressuring Germany for WW2 reparations (again) and there was recently a War trial.
April 18, 2019 - Polish MP calls for new push for WW2 reparations from Germany
Poland should follow Greece in stepping up pressure on Germany to pay billions of euros in damages for Nazi occupation during World War Two, a lawmaker in charge of Warsaw's reparations campaign said on Thursday.
April 18, 2019 - German Nazi camp guard, 92, charged as accessory to thousands of murders
FILE PHOTO: A watch tower is pictured at the former Austrian Nazi concentration camp in Mauthausen May 7, 2010. REUTERS/Herwig Prammer/File Photo
German prosecutors have charged a 92-year-old former concentration camp guard with being an accessory to murder, in what will be one of the last ever cases against Nazi-era war crimes.
Hamburg prosecutors accused the man, identified only as Bruno D., of aiding and abetting 5,230 cases of murder during the almost nine months he spent on duty at a concentration camp watch-tower at the end of World War Two.
According to Die Welt newspaper, which first reported the charges, the man admitted to prosecutors during a voluntary interrogation last year that he had seen people being taken to gas chambers to be murdered.
“What good would it have done for me to leave? They’d just have found somebody else,” he told prosecutors, according to the newspaper. “I felt bad for the people there. I didn’t know why they were there. I knew that they were Jews who had committed no crime.”
D., who was 17 when he began serving at Stutthof concentration camp near Gdansk in present-day Poland, said he had only joined the SS, the paramilitary wing of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party, because a heart weakness meant he was only suited for “garrison service”.
He said he had not been a Nazi sympathizer.
With only a handful of people involved in Nazi Germany’s genocidal crimes still alive, all in extreme old age, prosecutors are racing against time to ensure at least some justice is done by the victims, including the six million Jews murdered in the Holocaust.
The case against another nonagenarian former guard at Stutthof, where more than 60,000 people died, was halted last year because the suspect was too infirm to stand trial.
Another, Oskar Groening, known as the “Bookkeeper of Auschwitz” for his job counting cash stolen from people sent to the most notorious of all the regime’s death camps, died last year aged 96 as he waited to begin his sentence.
April 18, 2019 - Polish MP calls for new push for WW2 reparations from Germany
Poland should follow Greece in stepping up pressure on Germany to pay billions of euros in damages for Nazi occupation during World War Two, a lawmaker in charge of Warsaw's reparations campaign said on Thursday.
April 18, 2019 - German Nazi camp guard, 92, charged as accessory to thousands of murders
FILE PHOTO: A watch tower is pictured at the former Austrian Nazi concentration camp in Mauthausen May 7, 2010. REUTERS/Herwig Prammer/File Photo
German prosecutors have charged a 92-year-old former concentration camp guard with being an accessory to murder, in what will be one of the last ever cases against Nazi-era war crimes.
Hamburg prosecutors accused the man, identified only as Bruno D., of aiding and abetting 5,230 cases of murder during the almost nine months he spent on duty at a concentration camp watch-tower at the end of World War Two.
According to Die Welt newspaper, which first reported the charges, the man admitted to prosecutors during a voluntary interrogation last year that he had seen people being taken to gas chambers to be murdered.
“What good would it have done for me to leave? They’d just have found somebody else,” he told prosecutors, according to the newspaper. “I felt bad for the people there. I didn’t know why they were there. I knew that they were Jews who had committed no crime.”
D., who was 17 when he began serving at Stutthof concentration camp near Gdansk in present-day Poland, said he had only joined the SS, the paramilitary wing of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party, because a heart weakness meant he was only suited for “garrison service”.
He said he had not been a Nazi sympathizer.
With only a handful of people involved in Nazi Germany’s genocidal crimes still alive, all in extreme old age, prosecutors are racing against time to ensure at least some justice is done by the victims, including the six million Jews murdered in the Holocaust.
The case against another nonagenarian former guard at Stutthof, where more than 60,000 people died, was halted last year because the suspect was too infirm to stand trial.
Another, Oskar Groening, known as the “Bookkeeper of Auschwitz” for his job counting cash stolen from people sent to the most notorious of all the regime’s death camps, died last year aged 96 as he waited to begin his sentence.
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angelburst29
The Living Force
The World Jewish Congress has condemned as anti-Semitic the revival of a folk tradition of burning an effigy of Judas in the Polish town of Pruchnik.
April 22, 2019 - Jewish congress condemns revival of folk tradition in Poland as anti-Semitic
A video published by local website expressjaroslawski.pl showed several dozen locals watching on as an effigy of the disciple Judas was beaten and burned.
The tradition, first reported in the 18th century, was revived on the Christian holiday of Good Friday in the southeastern town of Pruchnik after several years, expressjaroslawski.pl said. In the past the Catholic church has banned the practice over the aggression involved.
“Jews are deeply disturbed by this ghastly revival of medieval anti-Semitism that led to unimaginable violence and suffering,” Jewish congress CEO Robert Singer said in a statement posted on the organization’s website on Sunday.
“We can only hope that the Church and other institutions will do their best to overcome these frightful prejudices which are a blot on Poland’s good name.”
More than 3 million of a population of 3.2 million Jews were murdered by Nazis in the Holocaust. Many Poles refuse to accept research showing thousands of their countrymen participated in the Holocaust in addition to thousands of others who risked their lives to help Jews.
Poland, ruled since 2015 by the right-wing Law and Justice (PiS), pulled out of a planned summit in Israel in February after Israel’s acting foreign minister said many Poles had collaborated with the Nazis in World War Two and shared responsibility for the Holocaust.
The government has made what it saw as the defense of national honor over its wartime record a cornerstone of foreign policy.
Tensions between Israel and Poland rose last year after Poland introduced new legislation that would have made the use of phrases such as “Polish death camps” punishable by up to three years in prison.
After pressure from the United States and an outcry in Israel, Poland watered down the legislation, scrapping the prison sentences.
April 22, 2019 - Jewish congress condemns revival of folk tradition in Poland as anti-Semitic
A video published by local website expressjaroslawski.pl showed several dozen locals watching on as an effigy of the disciple Judas was beaten and burned.
The tradition, first reported in the 18th century, was revived on the Christian holiday of Good Friday in the southeastern town of Pruchnik after several years, expressjaroslawski.pl said. In the past the Catholic church has banned the practice over the aggression involved.
“Jews are deeply disturbed by this ghastly revival of medieval anti-Semitism that led to unimaginable violence and suffering,” Jewish congress CEO Robert Singer said in a statement posted on the organization’s website on Sunday.
“We can only hope that the Church and other institutions will do their best to overcome these frightful prejudices which are a blot on Poland’s good name.”
More than 3 million of a population of 3.2 million Jews were murdered by Nazis in the Holocaust. Many Poles refuse to accept research showing thousands of their countrymen participated in the Holocaust in addition to thousands of others who risked their lives to help Jews.
Poland, ruled since 2015 by the right-wing Law and Justice (PiS), pulled out of a planned summit in Israel in February after Israel’s acting foreign minister said many Poles had collaborated with the Nazis in World War Two and shared responsibility for the Holocaust.
The government has made what it saw as the defense of national honor over its wartime record a cornerstone of foreign policy.
Tensions between Israel and Poland rose last year after Poland introduced new legislation that would have made the use of phrases such as “Polish death camps” punishable by up to three years in prison.
After pressure from the United States and an outcry in Israel, Poland watered down the legislation, scrapping the prison sentences.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Poland's governing nationalists announced legislation on Wednesday to ensure final high school exams are held next month despite a teachers' strike that has shut thousands of schools for more than two weeks.
Poland readies legislation to allow exams in strike-hit schools April 24, 2019
People hold banners during a rally to support a nationwide teachers' strike in central Warsaw, Poland April 24, 2019. Banner reads "Nationwide demonstration for the school". Agencja Gazeta/Jedrzej Nowicki via REUTERS
Teacher demands for a pay rise of up to 1,000 zloty ($260)evoke the competing demands of various groups for a slice of the fast-growing prosperity of central Europe’s largest economy, at a time when the ruling Law and Justice party (PiS) is expanding benefits for families and pensioners ahead of elections.
Critics say the government lacks incentive to find extra money for teachers as they broadly oppose the PiS over accusations that it is undermining Polish democracy by seeking to impose more political control over the judiciary, the state media and other public institutions. Meanwhile, the populist PiS has announced more payments for farmers who raise pigs and cows.
Teachers polled by the Rzeczpospolita daily say they earn 1,750-2,800 zloty a month after taxes. The average net salary in Polish enterprises amounts to around 3,700 zloty.
Students and parents are anxious to know whether final high school exams - allowing students to apply to university - will be held as planned at the beginning of May.
“The state must guarantee that in every school every exam candidate will be able to take their exam at the scheduled time, this is necessary for the peace of mind of students and parents and for the state to be seen as serious and responsible,” Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said in a televised speech.
He announced pending legislation that would allow school directors to grant permission for exams to go ahead if the teachers’ committees at schools remained on strike.
The emergency bill is expected to be put to a vote on Thursday. Given the PiS’s majority of 237 seats in the 460-strong lower house of parliament, the announced legislation is likely to be passed.
Despite a majority of Polish schools not holding lessons for a third week, final exams for children finishing primary and middle schools were held without disruptions.
Thousands of teachers took to the streets of Warsaw on Wednesday as the strike stretched into its 17th day, brandishing placards with slogans such as “Without respect and money, education drowns in poverty”.
In recent months, some opinion polls conducted before the European Parliament election in May have raised the possibility that PiS might lose power after Poland’s national election due in October or November. It is the first such signal since the strongly conservative party took office in 2015.
($1 = 3.8296 zlotys)
angelburst29
The Living Force
Poland's Kaczynski promises harsher sentences for child abuse
The leader of Poland's conservative ruling party promised harsher sentences for child abuse on Sunday, as the release of a documentary about pedophile priests created a fresh battleground in an election campaign marked by debate on religion and sexuality.
Polish far-right supporters protest against restitution of Jewish property
Hundreds of far-right supporters marched in Warsaw on Saturday to protest against a U.S. law on the restitution of Jewish property seized during or after World War Two, an issue increasingly featuring in campaigns for upcoming Polish elections.
The leader of Poland's conservative ruling party promised harsher sentences for child abuse on Sunday, as the release of a documentary about pedophile priests created a fresh battleground in an election campaign marked by debate on religion and sexuality.
Polish far-right supporters protest against restitution of Jewish property
Hundreds of far-right supporters marched in Warsaw on Saturday to protest against a U.S. law on the restitution of Jewish property seized during or after World War Two, an issue increasingly featuring in campaigns for upcoming Polish elections.
I don't know why other countries would trust the U.S. by signing anything currently but I bet they didn't anticipate the twisted logic that would be applied to the idea of "restitution" as that article points out.
This crazy law will only cause more suffering I think if it hasn't already.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Poland's Walesa urges Catholic church action on abuse after his priest accused
Polish Nobel Peace Prize laureate Lech Walesa has urged the Catholic Church to prevent further sexual abuse of children by members of its clergy after a new documentary film showed his priest to be one of the accused.
Poland's Kaczynski promises harsher sentences for child abuse
The leader of Poland's conservative ruling party promised harsher sentences for child abuse on Sunday, as the release of a documentary about pedophile priests created a fresh battleground in an election campaign marked by debate on religion and sexuality.
Polish Nobel Peace Prize laureate Lech Walesa has urged the Catholic Church to prevent further sexual abuse of children by members of its clergy after a new documentary film showed his priest to be one of the accused.
Poland's Kaczynski promises harsher sentences for child abuse
The leader of Poland's conservative ruling party promised harsher sentences for child abuse on Sunday, as the release of a documentary about pedophile priests created a fresh battleground in an election campaign marked by debate on religion and sexuality.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Poland's ambassador to Israel was spat at while sitting in his car in Tel Aviv, Israeli police said, and the Polish government condemned the incident, which coincided with rising tensions between the two countries.
Polish ambassador spat at in Israel amid rising tensions
FILE PHOTO: Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki arrives at a summit of the Visegrad Group of central European nations and Japan in Bratislava, Slovakia, April 25, 2019. REUTERS/Radovan Stoklasa/File Photo
“I am very worried to hear of a racist attack on @PLinIsrael ambassador @mmagierowski. Poland strongly condemns this xenophobic act of aggression. Violence against diplomats or any other citizens should never be tolerated,” Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki wrote in a tweet on Wednesday.
An Israeli police spokesman said on Wednesday a 65-year-old Israeli architect was arrested over Tuesday’s spitting incident. At a court hearing on Wednesday, he was put under house arrest until police complete their investigation, his lawyer said.
The Polish Foreign Ministry summoned Israel’s ambassador to Warsaw, Anna Azari, over the matter, a ministry spokeswoman told the state-run news agency PAP.
“The event is under police investigation. We express our fullest sympathy to the ambassador and our shock at the attack,” Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nahshon said.
Polish-Israeli relations have deteriorated in recent months over accusations that Warsaw’s nationalist PiS government has tolerated a revival of anti-Semitic behavior, a charge it denies.
Hundreds of far-right supporters marched in Warsaw on Saturday in protest against a U.S. law on the restitution of Jewish property seized during or after World War Two, an increasingly prominent issue in Polish election campaigns.
David Johan, the suspect’s lawyer, told reporters his client had been turned away from the Polish Embassy on Tuesday after trying to inquire about restitution.
Later, outside the embassy, the alleged assailant “approached the vehicle of the Polish ambassador to Israel, opened the door and then spat (at him),” police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said. Johan said the attack had not been premeditated.
“My client was walking in the street and an embassy vehicle honked at him,” the attorney told reporters. “My client apologized during his interrogation. He said he didn’t even know it was the ambassador himself.”
The PiS government has said that Poland - which had one of the world’s biggest Jewish communities before it was almost entirely wiped out by Nazi occupiers - was a victim of World War Two and so should not be saddled with any financial obligations.
In response to the ultra-nationalist march, the World Jewish Congress urged Polish religious and political leaders on Wednesday to unequivocally condemn anti-Semitism.
On Monday the Polish government canceled a visit by an Israeli delegation as it learned that the Israelis intended to bring up the restitution issue, the Foreign Ministry said.
Polish leader to visit Trump in June: White House
U.S. President Donald Trump will meet with his Polish counterpart, Andrzej Duda, in Washington on June 12 to talk about security and defense among other issues, the White House said on Wednesday.
Polish bishops to discuss child sex abuse as documentary spurs outrage
Polish bishops will meet on May 22 to discuss steps to tackle paedophilia in Poland's powerful Catholic Church after a documentary that showed victims confronting priests who had sexually abused them shocked the devout nation.
Polish leaders should clearly condemn antisemitism: World Jewish Congress head
Poland's religious and political leaders should unequivocally condemn antisemitic behavior following a number of troubling events in the country, the head of the World Jewish Congress wrote on Wednesday.
Polish ambassador spat at in Israel amid rising tensions
FILE PHOTO: Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki arrives at a summit of the Visegrad Group of central European nations and Japan in Bratislava, Slovakia, April 25, 2019. REUTERS/Radovan Stoklasa/File Photo
“I am very worried to hear of a racist attack on @PLinIsrael ambassador @mmagierowski. Poland strongly condemns this xenophobic act of aggression. Violence against diplomats or any other citizens should never be tolerated,” Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki wrote in a tweet on Wednesday.
An Israeli police spokesman said on Wednesday a 65-year-old Israeli architect was arrested over Tuesday’s spitting incident. At a court hearing on Wednesday, he was put under house arrest until police complete their investigation, his lawyer said.
The Polish Foreign Ministry summoned Israel’s ambassador to Warsaw, Anna Azari, over the matter, a ministry spokeswoman told the state-run news agency PAP.
“The event is under police investigation. We express our fullest sympathy to the ambassador and our shock at the attack,” Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Emmanuel Nahshon said.
Polish-Israeli relations have deteriorated in recent months over accusations that Warsaw’s nationalist PiS government has tolerated a revival of anti-Semitic behavior, a charge it denies.
Hundreds of far-right supporters marched in Warsaw on Saturday in protest against a U.S. law on the restitution of Jewish property seized during or after World War Two, an increasingly prominent issue in Polish election campaigns.
David Johan, the suspect’s lawyer, told reporters his client had been turned away from the Polish Embassy on Tuesday after trying to inquire about restitution.
Later, outside the embassy, the alleged assailant “approached the vehicle of the Polish ambassador to Israel, opened the door and then spat (at him),” police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said. Johan said the attack had not been premeditated.
“My client was walking in the street and an embassy vehicle honked at him,” the attorney told reporters. “My client apologized during his interrogation. He said he didn’t even know it was the ambassador himself.”
The PiS government has said that Poland - which had one of the world’s biggest Jewish communities before it was almost entirely wiped out by Nazi occupiers - was a victim of World War Two and so should not be saddled with any financial obligations.
In response to the ultra-nationalist march, the World Jewish Congress urged Polish religious and political leaders on Wednesday to unequivocally condemn anti-Semitism.
On Monday the Polish government canceled a visit by an Israeli delegation as it learned that the Israelis intended to bring up the restitution issue, the Foreign Ministry said.
Polish leader to visit Trump in June: White House
U.S. President Donald Trump will meet with his Polish counterpart, Andrzej Duda, in Washington on June 12 to talk about security and defense among other issues, the White House said on Wednesday.
Polish bishops to discuss child sex abuse as documentary spurs outrage
Polish bishops will meet on May 22 to discuss steps to tackle paedophilia in Poland's powerful Catholic Church after a documentary that showed victims confronting priests who had sexually abused them shocked the devout nation.
Polish leaders should clearly condemn antisemitism: World Jewish Congress head
Poland's religious and political leaders should unequivocally condemn antisemitic behavior following a number of troubling events in the country, the head of the World Jewish Congress wrote on Wednesday.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Israeli charged with assault for spitting on Polish ambassador
Israeli prosecutors filed charges on Thursday against a man accused of spitting on Poland's ambassador, an incident that drew strong condemnation from Warsaw and underscored tensions between the countries over anti-Semitism and Holocaust history.
The suspect, Erik Lederman, was indicted for assault and criminal threats, Tel Aviv Magistrate’s Court papers showed. Police said that in Tuesday’s incident in Tel Aviv he had struck the roof of a car carrying Ambassador Marek Magierowski with his hand, then opened a door and spat twice on the envoy.
The counts carry a maximum of five years' jail in Israel.
Lederman, 65, has apologized, saying the car had honked at him and that he had not known Magierowski was inside.
Lederman said he had come to the embassy to inquire about Polish restitution for his family, which had been through the Holocaust, and had been turned away. He said an embassy employee used an anti-Semitic slur while he was there.
Magierowski has denied that any embassy staff used inappropriate behavior or language.
Israeli prosecutors filed charges on Thursday against a man accused of spitting on Poland's ambassador, an incident that drew strong condemnation from Warsaw and underscored tensions between the countries over anti-Semitism and Holocaust history.
The suspect, Erik Lederman, was indicted for assault and criminal threats, Tel Aviv Magistrate’s Court papers showed. Police said that in Tuesday’s incident in Tel Aviv he had struck the roof of a car carrying Ambassador Marek Magierowski with his hand, then opened a door and spat twice on the envoy.
The counts carry a maximum of five years' jail in Israel.
Lederman, 65, has apologized, saying the car had honked at him and that he had not known Magierowski was inside.
Lederman said he had come to the embassy to inquire about Polish restitution for his family, which had been through the Holocaust, and had been turned away. He said an embassy employee used an anti-Semitic slur while he was there.
Magierowski has denied that any embassy staff used inappropriate behavior or language.
6 days ago, on 12th of May on Youtube was published movie of one of quite well-known Polish journalists Tomasz and Marek Sekielski titled "Only don't say to anyone" in Polish "Tylko nie mów nikomu". Up to now almost 20 million watches which is half of Poland population. Movie describes probably for the first time pedophile priests on highest levels with including interviews with them and witnesses’ relations. There was some news in the past about pedophile priests: for example in 2002 was case of archbishop Paetz, in 2013 from small parish Wysoka. Case of archbishop Paetz was very loud but as isolated example in the media back then has not hit believers and what more was basically heated up by media known for their anti-Catholic hue (Wyborcza). I remember my mother and her milieu closely attached to the church by group Renewal by Holy Ghost. Most people in the church were treating such kind of news as defamation and attempts of groups fighting with church to destroy Polish Catholicism, Polish patriotism.
Now looks different. It was strong hit. First of all, many people from inside of the catholic church are admitting the truth in the movie. Only some on high positions are denying the problem. Important is that people's imagination, stereotype about church has been shaken. I can see it also in me. The image of priest-pedophile is implanted. The threat from the authority is installed. So people are ready for changes.
After watching parts of the movie together with my wife only the worst examples are coming and confirming that psychopathy problem was and still is present in places of power/authority also in Poland: Ann Salter's "Sexual predators", movie "Conspiracy of Silence" as those which I get to know.
I am not sure but it feels like it is an earthquake for Polish spirit. Common rules, common beliefs, something that was present and shaping Polish mentality for hundreds of years, now is tangibly shaking. Even those Poles who were not devoted to the church and not taking active part in it still for the most important life events: birth, marriage, death were and still are going to church. Even those who claim to not to be religious for many reasons when they are sick and old are coming back to church.
Church and religion are a complex social thing.
I just heard today: so, we could wander if in many hearts/minds place of the catholic church was emptied, what would be substitute for it on the larger scale?
Because without common moral reference point, common rules, chaos starts to be visible. One of the functions of the church is mind programming, setting basic rules for life. When this is gone or being questioned like now in Poland it gives some place to other programs.
It will be interesting what comes up as a proposal to the people to substitute corrupt church with?
Sekielski's movie publication was also going as I think on the wave primed by recent news from catholic church worldwide about abuses of the priests which was also confirmed by pope Francis (2014?) and ongoing presence in the news from worldwide church from then on.
What seems missing in media debate started in Poland is that it touches only catholic church and misses completely politicians and other groups which are for same reasons as catholic church prone to attract similar psychopathic individuals.
This bringing subject of pedophilia to the public could also make ground for broader discussion of psychopathy in general and social education for many about the subject. Let's see.
Now looks different. It was strong hit. First of all, many people from inside of the catholic church are admitting the truth in the movie. Only some on high positions are denying the problem. Important is that people's imagination, stereotype about church has been shaken. I can see it also in me. The image of priest-pedophile is implanted. The threat from the authority is installed. So people are ready for changes.
After watching parts of the movie together with my wife only the worst examples are coming and confirming that psychopathy problem was and still is present in places of power/authority also in Poland: Ann Salter's "Sexual predators", movie "Conspiracy of Silence" as those which I get to know.
I am not sure but it feels like it is an earthquake for Polish spirit. Common rules, common beliefs, something that was present and shaping Polish mentality for hundreds of years, now is tangibly shaking. Even those Poles who were not devoted to the church and not taking active part in it still for the most important life events: birth, marriage, death were and still are going to church. Even those who claim to not to be religious for many reasons when they are sick and old are coming back to church.
Church and religion are a complex social thing.
I just heard today: so, we could wander if in many hearts/minds place of the catholic church was emptied, what would be substitute for it on the larger scale?
Because without common moral reference point, common rules, chaos starts to be visible. One of the functions of the church is mind programming, setting basic rules for life. When this is gone or being questioned like now in Poland it gives some place to other programs.
It will be interesting what comes up as a proposal to the people to substitute corrupt church with?
Sekielski's movie publication was also going as I think on the wave primed by recent news from catholic church worldwide about abuses of the priests which was also confirmed by pope Francis (2014?) and ongoing presence in the news from worldwide church from then on.
What seems missing in media debate started in Poland is that it touches only catholic church and misses completely politicians and other groups which are for same reasons as catholic church prone to attract similar psychopathic individuals.
This bringing subject of pedophilia to the public could also make ground for broader discussion of psychopathy in general and social education for many about the subject. Let's see.
angelburst29
The Living Force
Tens of thousands of people joined a pride march in Warsaw on Saturday as gay rights continue to become a major issue in Poland's election campaign.
Warsaw pride parade attracts large crowd amid heated political debate
People take part in the annual "Equality Parade" rally in support of the LGBT community in Warsaw, Poland, June 8, 2019. REUTERS/Kacper Pempel
The parade, which was expected to be the biggest of its kind in the city, came as the ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party ramped up its opposition to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights, saying opposition support for LGBT issues threatens Polish culture.
PiS made alleged threats related to LGBT movements a big part of its campaign in last month’s European Parliament elections and the theme is likely to remain a major topic ahead of a national vote expected in October or November.
Warsaw pride parade attracts large crowd amid heated political debate
People take part in the annual "Equality Parade" rally in support of the LGBT community in Warsaw, Poland, June 8, 2019. REUTERS/Kacper Pempel
The parade, which was expected to be the biggest of its kind in the city, came as the ruling conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party ramped up its opposition to lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights, saying opposition support for LGBT issues threatens Polish culture.
PiS made alleged threats related to LGBT movements a big part of its campaign in last month’s European Parliament elections and the theme is likely to remain a major topic ahead of a national vote expected in October or November.
