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Laura

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She's done a pretty good job though it's obvious she could find a little help in discussing the topic with the "Mind Matters" guys.

Added: Rather chilling conclusion she comes at the end. It sounds like she thinks that the present COVID agenda is actually designed to commit eugenics in terms of killing off Black people, NAs, etc. That is, those that are being "privileged" to get the vaccine first are actually the targets of eugenics policies.
 
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Added: Rather chilling conclusion she comes at the end. It sounds like she thinks that the present COVID agenda is actually designed to commit eugenics in terms of killing off Black people, NAs, etc. That is, those that are being "privileged" to get the vaccine first are actually the targets of eugenics policies.

In that case, it's the elderly of all races that are being culled, since they are being prioritized for the jab.
 

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In that case, it's the elderly of all races that are being culled, since they are being prioritized for the jab.
Which makes cca 15-20% of total population in most of Western countries:

From the money-making POV of insurance companies / bank cartels, with additional stress on pension systems (which already have been unsustainable) they've set up when many working people lost their jobs due to COVID business, this would be a necessary part of the Great Reset, IMO.
 

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Added: Rather chilling conclusion she comes at the end. It sounds like she thinks that the present COVID agenda is actually designed to commit eugenics in terms of killing off Black people, NAs, etc. That is, those that are being "privileged" to get the vaccine first are actually the targets of eugenics policies.
There's a strong push these days for "antiracist medicine" and "health equity" to "level the playing field" of inequality in healthcare. This means prioritizing care for minorities and other "historically marginalized" groups. Aside from the fact that this will, at least in principle, mean neglecting care for whites and Asians, if we've learned anything about ponerized ideologies, it's that they attack the very people they pretend to fight for. So even if she might be wrong about Covid in this regard, he might be more right than she imagines.
 

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In that case, it's the elderly of all races that are being culled, since they are being prioritized for the jab.

Call me a conspiracy theorist ;-) but given that pensions are the highest welfare expense of the UK government (I'd risk a guess that it's likely to be true for other countries too) and that those costs keep increasing due to ageing populations many western countries experience I wouldn't be entirely shocked if this was by design: An OBR guide to welfare spending - Office for Budget Responsibility

Of the £217 billion spent on welfare payments in 2016-17, around 59 per cent was paid to pensioners, with state pensions the largest single item at £92 billion. Personal tax credits – mostly for families with children – cost £27 billion and housing benefit – three quarters of which is paid to people of working age – cost £23 billion. Together these payments made up around two-thirds of all welfare spending.

Here's a source showing continuous increase: UK state pension costs 2020 | Statista

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So, even though the left has been fighting for incomes for elderly, free healthcare for all, access for the handicapped, and now "Black Lives Matter", it appears that the whole leftist agenda has been thoroughly ponerized and new meanings inserted and the very people they were agitating to protect are now the targets for elimination.
 

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So, even though the left has been fighting for incomes for elderly, free healthcare for all, access for the handicapped, and now "Black Lives Matter", it appears that the whole leftist agenda has been thoroughly ponerized and new meanings inserted and the very people they were agitating to protect are now the targets for elimination.

Weren't they brainwashing everyone at the beginning that measures/restrictions (masks, physical distancing, lockdowns) they put in place due to COVID business are needed firstly for the elderly - "Do it for your granny!", "Don't be selfish!", ...


Call me a conspiracy theorist ;-) but given that pensions are the highest welfare expense of the UK government (I'd risk a guess that it's likely to be true for other countries too) and that those costs keep increasing due to ageing populations many western countries experience I wouldn't be entirely shocked if this was by design: An OBR guide to welfare spending - Office for Budget Responsibility

It wouldn't shock me either if target were elderly in the first place.
 

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Call me a conspiracy theorist ;-) but given that pensions are the highest welfare expense of the UK government (I'd risk a guess that it's likely to be true for other countries too) and that those costs keep increasing due to ageing populations many western countries experience I wouldn't be entirely shocked if this was by design: An OBR guide to welfare spending - Office for Budget Responsibility
The German lawyer Reiner Fuellmich spoke to a whistleblower a little while ago, according to whom the pension funds of Europe are totally bankrupt. It looks indeed like they want to get rid of the elderly and probably other "useless eaters" which might be categorized as "risk group" and would normally have to live from such funds. The current "anti-corona" measures and vaccination campaigns would qualify for a Nuremberg 2, according to him:

"Nuremberg 2": There is light at the end of the tunnel

A few months ago, attorney Reiner Fuellmich spoke to Jerm Warfare about his plans to take the WHO to court for crimes against humanity. He is one of the most powerful lawyers in Europe and is currently preparing the largest class action case in history, also known as ‘Nuremberg 2’.

A few days ago Fuellmich spoke again with Jerm Warfare to review the latest state of affairs. “There is light at the end of the tunnel,” he said. “We have won lawsuits and are going to win many more.”

During the interview, he said of the corona approach, “These are the worst crimes against humanity ever committed.” The few people who can still think independently, about 10 to 20 percent of the population, know that this was never about a virus or health, but about the thinning of the world population and control, according to the lawyer.“

Nuremberg 2

“The corona vaccines have nothing to do with vaccination, but are part of genetic experiments, he said. Fuellmich added that the players make a lot of mistakes behind the scenes. He thinks that the vaccine makers did not expect that so many side effects would already occur. He spoke to a whistleblower who said that it was initially planned to roll out this entire scenario only in 2050. Subsequently, the people pulling the strings became greedy and it was decided to implement the plans much earlier, according to the whistleblower. “I think that’s why they make so many mistakes,” said Fuellmich, who has taken statements from more than 100 scientists and experts.

The lawyer went on to say that a special court, Nuremberg 2, may be needed, as this is now so large that it may exceed national courts. “We have the proof.”“

Europe: Main Battleground

“Who are those people who are pulling the strings? According to Fuellmich, it concerns a group of about 3000 super rich. Klaus Schwab’s Davos clique, among others, belongs to this group. What do they want? Full control over the people. “They bribe doctors, hospital workers and politicians. People who do not cooperate are threatened. They use all kinds of psychological techniques to manipulate people. ”

Fuellmich also spoke to another whistleblower who explained why Europe is the main battlefield of this war. “Europe is completely bankrupt. The pension funds have been completely robbed. That’s why they want to bring Europe under control before people find out what’s going on. ”

Many people will die

The mainstream media pretends that a majority of people are in favor of the measures. According to the lawyer, that is certainly not the case. Almost everyone he speaks to in Germany knows that, for example, mouth masks do not help and is informed by alternative media. “The old media is dying.”

His advice? Spread the truth and the facts as much as possible and don’t waste your energy on people who really want to get vaccinated. “We cannot save everyone. Many people will die. ”

My uncle also said years ago: That those in power / governments would find ways to get rid of the elderly, in order for states to save retirement money. Also, with the abolishment of many workplaces due to the "pandemic" and short-term work, etc. there's less tax inflow. Meanwhile the politicians who are the puppets of those orchestrating this scheme, hardly haven't seen any shortage of their income from taxpayer's money (at least in Germany).

It's very chilling, to say the least. But maybe this will all fall apart earlier than we think, given the pressure with which they are pushing their agenda through. As Fuellmich correctly said, they are making many mistakes and the beast is being poked on many places already, which probably will lead to more mistakes. This leaves some hope.
 

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REINER FUELLMICH - WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE
Worse crimes against humanity ever - not about virus/health - population reduction - gaining complete control over those who are left - genetic experiments not vaccination - weren't expecting so many adverse reactions - planned for 2050, moved up 2030, then 2020 - we have evidence - such magnitude - possibly need to have Nuremberg II - not about wealth but money used as a tool - perps same that caused past financial [2008] crises - print money to restore what they have stolen - corona a diversionary tactic from financial implosion - perp infighting/conflicts - Europe at the center because it is completely, definitely, totally broke - pension funds completely broke/stolen - get people under control before they find out what's really going on > first eight and one half minutes.
I posted the above in the Coronavirus thread in April which is a summation of what Learner just posted. It really stood out when he said - Europe at the center because it is "completely, definitely, totally broke" - pension funds completely broke/stolen.

The money for the pensions is gone - stolen - and so it makes sense to find a secretive way to eliminate the pensioners without arousing suspicion. Plus, us older folks have had actual experience of history via our own lives and that of our parents/older relatives that the younger generations have not and who can be more easily convinced to accept "social justice" concepts - socialism/communism in disguise. Additionally, the younger generations have been subject to divorce/broken homes much more than generations before and consequently, don't hold their elders' opinions in high regard if they even still have meaningful relationships with them.

I believe it has come out, though, that people of color and women are having more adverse effects/deaths than others for Covid-19 or the vaxxines. Intended or just lucky? :-/
 

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I've found that interview with Reiner Fuellmich uplifting. Thanks for posting! Didn't know about Jerm Warfare, very interesting guests he's got there. PTB did a lot of mistakes in a hurry, as Fuellmich said. One of them, is to base the whole pandemic on a "Drosden Test". If they manage to convince the Courts, that "Drosden Test" is bunk, and is not meant to detect infection, they will create a precedent (scientific facts are facts in every part of the world, their evidence might be used as a basis for others). From what I know, Fuellmich is trying to make the cases to be very medial: he's suing fact checkers for defamation on behalf of Dr Wodarg. I recommend everyone to listen to the interview that @Learner posted 👍
 

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Reiner Fuellmich discusses a whistleblower that said it was pulled back from 2050 to 2030 then to 2020 because of greed…maybe so, but I also add to that that they probable know about the ice age, and the comets, and the surface of the earth and oceans shifting. And thus, decided to get going while things were fairly stable for them to manage their ugly schemes.

Dr. Judy Mikovits in her recent interview, and I believe she has been saying this all the while, that they are going after the young black population, disabled, and elderly first. Its an in-depth interview (almost 2 hours) and worth the watch, if you haven’t seen it yet. I haven’t seen it posted anywhere so I will post it below.

 

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Thank you @KS for mentioning this interview! Wouldn't have seen the link otherwise. I've been listening and it was chilling to hear Fuellmich say that one year ago he would have recommended to someone who told him of a group of some very rich and influential people planning to cull a large part of the (global) population to go and see a psychiatrist. But now he thinks the same especially as lots of hearings they had in the Corona Investigation Committee ("Corona-Untersuchungsausschuss") seem to corroborate this. Actually having someone with the standing of Fuellmich saying that there's strong evidence for such plans, and that it doesn't just come from crazy conspiracy theorists, kind of whacked me out of my shoes even more.
 

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I believe it has come out, though, that people of color and women are having more adverse effects/deaths than others for Covid-19 or the vaxxines. Intended or just lucky?
I wonder about this too. Especially and by large it is the women that have been suffering from side-effects or deaths, as far as it goes to the reports of our German Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI), the Austrian Office for Health Security, and for the database of the European Medicines Agency (EMA). However, these databases don't show a differenciation for ethnicities (or at least I haven't found them yet). Don't know how that goes for other Europe-based databases like the British Yellow Card Register, or for the database of the WHO as I haven't checked those.

As for the women: The recent PEI report (in German) assumes that simply more women go take the jab than men. It would be interesting to have the assessment of doctors who offer vaccine counselling and monitor side effects or experience deaths as they might see many people.

As for people of color: I can't assess this point since I haven't seen databases for vaccine side effects where ethnicities are listed. But if significantly many people of color suffer side effects or even deaths then one can assume the vaccines are targeting people with certain genetics.

Dr. Judy Mikovits in her recent interview, and I believe she has been saying this all the while, that they are going after the young black population, disabled, and elderly first. Its an in-depth interview (almost 2 hours) and worth the watch, if you haven’t seen it yet. I haven’t seen it posted anywhere so I will post it below.

Thank you for this, Adobe! And there might, at least in Germany, one more group now as they are abolishing priorization and are approving the vaccines for everyone: Those people dependent on social welfare in some form, those with just very little income and the homeless people. And due to Corona, many more people have become dependent on social payments or worse. According to an article on RT Deutsch (German RT) from today they are now categorized as a COVID-19 "risk group" (translation with DeepL):

Socially disadvantaged people particularly threatened by COVID-19

Poor people are significantly more likely to contract COVID-19. The immune system of poorer people and precariously employed people is on average less well developed. A study by the Heinrich Heine University Düsseldorf and the AOK Rheinland/Hamburg shows: Unemployment benefit II [Hartz-IV] recipients have an 84 percent higher risk.

According to recent studies by the Robert Koch Institute (RKI), there is a correlation between social status and the risk of contracting and dying from COVID-19 in Germany. As the Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland reports, during the second wave of the Corona pandemic, the number of COVID-19 deaths increased most in socially disadvantaged regions.

The risk of death from Corona was 50 to 70 per cent higher there than in more affluent regions. The social organisations VdK and the German Paritätische Wohlfahrtsverband are therefore calling for better protection of poorer people against the virus. According to the RKI studies, which look at data from the second Corona wave, the risk of infection is also unequally distributed. Verena Bentele, President of the social association VdK, said:

"In regions where people suffer disproportionately from poverty, the risk of dying from corona is higher."

In the socially disadvantaged regions of Germany, the Corona death toll increased the most during the second wave of the pandemic.

According to the studies, pre-existing conditions are another risk factor for a severe course of corona disease. Ulrich Schneider, Managing Director of the Paritätischer Wohlfahrtsverband, said:

"There is a clear association between poverty, COVID disease progression and pre-existing disease."

Poorer people are more likely to have pre-existing conditions and are consequently at higher risk of severe corona disease progression.

The immune systems of poorer people and precariously employed people are on average less well placed to fight the virus. According to a study by the Heinrich Heine University in Düsseldorf and the AOK Rheinland/Hamburg, people receiving unemployment benefit II have an 84 percent higher risk of hospitalisation. If they become infected, the probability is significantly higher that their illness will take a severe course and they will have to be hospitalised.

Another study showed that this risk is almost three times higher for agency workers than for the average worker. They often lack the necessary social environment, healthy living and a balanced diet with minerals and vitamins.

Negative stress also has an impact on the immune system. Insecure working conditions such as temporary work, the feeling of being at the mercy of others, increase negative stress.
People with less money and in insecure jobs are more likely to fall seriously ill with COVID-19 because their bodies are less able to fight viruses.

In addition to occupations in metal processing (special feature in Rhineland-Palatinate) and motor vehicle sales (special feature in Saarland), the rather poorly paid occupations in child care and education as well as in medicine and nursing were generally the most affected by sick leave in connection with COVID-19 in the "Corona pandemic year" 2020. The individual values for these occupational groups are on average more than twice as high as the average value across all occupational groups (1,724 affected persons per 100,000 AOK-insured employees). The health professions alone were incapacitated for work in connection with COVID-19 more often than average and regularly occupy places three to ten in the ranking.

In total, of the 13.6 million AOK-insured employees nationwide, 289,282 employees received a certificate of incapacity to work from a doctor in connection with a COVID-19 diagnosis from March to December 2020.

The situation is similar in Scotland. As the medical journal writes, in Edinburgh people from poorer homes were more likely to have contracted SARS-CoV-2 during the first wave of illness. The risk of death in intensive care was twice as high as in the richer areas, according to a study in Lancet Regional Health - Europe, which was not only due to a lack of intensive care beds.

Poverty research has a tradition in the UK. The statistics authorities regularly publish an index that measures the extent of deprivation through the parameters of income, employment, health, education, qualifications and training, household size, infrastructure as well as crime. Nazir Lone from the University of Edinburgh has now correlated the "Scottish Index of Multiple Deprivation" with the frequency of intensive medical treatment and mortality.

One reason for the increased risk of disease is likely to be the more frequent cardiovascular risk factors of those living in poorer areas. ICU patients from poorer areas were more likely to suffer from diabetes (15.3 versus 9.0 per cent) and respiratory disease (13.1 versus 4.0 per cent). A total of 15.3 compared to 7.0 per cent had two or more concomitant diseases that increase the risk of disease when infected with SARS-CoV-2.
A nightmare scenario from this might be the jobcenters "inviting" those people to "get the shot to save others", and if they don't show up their benefits will be shortened (sanctioned). And as they have weak immune systems like the elderly and disabled people living in care homes over the last year (with strict inhumane "anti-corona" measures), the vaccines will wreak havoc on them and might likely kill them.
 
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