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myth

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I have been fighting a porn addition for about two years and have recently made some progress.
I was wondering what the forums consensus on is pornography/hentai and if anyone has also had a battle with this beast.

Not okay? Its okay? Okay with restraint?(i still do struggle with it myself)
 
I think the consensus is to just say no to porn. It's an addiction worth fighting.

You might find this website interesting regarding porn addiction and other related questions:

http://www.reuniting.info/

Here's one article in particular which might be helpful:

http://www.reuniting.info/science/orgasm_pill_sex_addiction_holstege_all_in_the_mind

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Myth, the consensus you are inquiring about is pretty much "just say no to porn". Not Okay. It skews the person's view of both his/her own and the opposite gender, impairs the capacity for meaningful relationships, and possibly works in a number of additional ways to lower one's FRV and impede progress in Work.

This forum doesn't judge, and there is no expectation of going cold turkey overnight. But okaying this practice "with restraint" would be a deceiving sort of compromise. Rather the hope is that the information presented here and additional knowledge one find through self study will give one motivation for continued effort to Work and network on this issue, in a supportive environment.

There are others on the forum who have struggled with it and have shared their experiences, which you may find helpful:

Laying it All Bare
Pornography and the Cyberpath
Lowering of our FRV
Me and my two ex-girlfriends
 
Read Cleckley's "Caricature of Love." There's a forum thread about it.
 
Hi Myth, I agree with others recommendations. The Reuniting.info site that RyanX provided also has a sister site called yourbrainonporn.com that has a number of articles on recovery from porn and the brain science behind this addiction. Reuniting.info also has community blogs and a forum for recovery for those addicted to porn and those interested in moving away from orgasm. Numbing your brain does effect your other patterns of behavior as well, just like any addiction will.

Congratulations on your recent progress and best wishes to you!
 
I had a similar addiction but mine was masturbation I no longer do it but it was an addiction for me.

When I read an article about the side effects of it and it scared me I no longer wanted to masturbate it helped alot. It causes physiological side effects as well effected memory and other brain chemistry's it can also over stimulate some of your brain chemicals.


http://www.ayurvediccure.com/over_masturbation.htm

Educational Guide
Frequent masturbation and ejaculation stimulate acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions. Excessive stimulation can result in over production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin.

Abundant and unusually large amount of these hormones and neurotransmitters can cause the brain and adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion and turn the brain and body functions to be extremely sympathetic. In other words, there is a big change of body chemistry when one excessively masturbates.

Masturbation is a healthy sexual behavior. Like other behaviors, when over practiced or addicted it can lead to both psychological and physiological imbalances.

The side effects of such changes to the body include:

•Fatigue. Feeling tired all the time
•Lower back pain
•Thinning hair / Hair Loss
•Soft / Weak Erection
•Premature Ejaculation
•Eye floaters or fuzzy vision
•Groin / Testicular Pain
•Pain or cramp in the pelvic cavity or/and tail bone
Masturbation plays a big role in a normal sex life. Some of us discover it as children because it starts to feel so good between our legs. Others are shown by our friends. We continue to masturbate because it feels so good. It gets us ready for mature sexual relationships when we reach adulthood, and it helps us take care of those raging hormonal urges and surges when we are teenagers. Masturbation can enhance mature sexual relationships where two partners use it either as a prelude to other sexual activity, or as the main fare. And it keeps us going when relationships falter, such as when a partner is ill or away. It is a great equalizer in a relationship where one partner needs more sexual activity than the other.

How much is too much masturbation?
That depends but it's suggested men keep their ejaculation frequency down to 2-3 times a week. However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system and make your penis firmer, your erections last longer, and your ejaculate volume bigger.

Masturbation is a part of life and our sexual practices. In fact, most doctors recommend it, not only to improve sexual experiences but to also promote good general health. However, like most things in life, too much of a good thing can be bad. Excessive masturbation can lead to symptoms like stress, fatigue, and memory loss. In extreme cases, sufferers fall into the pitfalls of impotence and hair loss.

Under most circumstances, masturbation is neither good nor bad
One recently published study reported that 87% of women and 95% of men have practiced masturbation—but when done to extreme, it causes drastic changes in brain and body chemistry. Masturbating too much can over-stimulate acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions and disrupt the liver’s release of enzymes that synthesize neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, and serotonin. Additionally, the liver’s ability to release enzymes that aid in hormone production is affected. As a result, the brain and adrenal glands produce too much dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine, and other hormones and neural transmitters.

Symptoms (also called Sexual Exhaustion) is distressing liver and nervous system functions, include youthful impotence/erectile dysfunction (including a soft or weak erection) and seminal leakage. While more than 30% of men have experienced impotence at one time or another, impotence in youth is more rare and can often be attributed to the above factors.

Over-masturbation can also cause problems such as seminal leakage, which can cause sperm to ooze or leak out of the penis with no accompanying erection. Both semen leakage and youthful impotence are embarrassing, uncomfortable, and signs of Sexual Exhaustion.

Semen leakage is a sign that the parasympathetic nerve, which keeps the ejaculation valve shut and holds the erection, is weakening as a result of over-masturbation. With a weakened nerve, maintaining an erection is a problem.

Get Rid From The Addictive Behavior?
The first step to getting better is to reduce masturbation and ejaculation frequency and try to overcome this bad habit. Eat more soybean products and eliminating excessive caffeine from your diet. Focus on nutty foods like sunflower seeds, and peanuts and eat more sea foods, seaweed, vegetables, and try to minimize red meat and dairy product intake. Instead of soda, try drinking orange juice or cranberry juice and, of course, drink plenty of water.

We have developed Kohinoor Gold in order to combat sexual exhaustion and reverse the effects that over-masturbation has on your body. Feel your erections become more firm and more engorged, you will be able to last longer, feel less pain in the prostate and testicles, and feel more alert and energized.

So the best advice I can give you is to think about the side effects and determine if the high is worth it.
 
Thanks for all the info, the last post remember me that we are what we eat, or something like that the phrase says
 
Eat more soybean products and eliminating excessive caffeine from your diet. Focus on nutty foods like sunflower seeds, and peanuts and eat more sea foods, seaweed, vegetables, and try to minimize red meat and dairy product intake.

Just a note for those who don't know: Soy is dangerous and dairy must also be avoided for a healthy diet. FWIW
 
celtic said:
http://www.ayurvediccure.com/over_masturbation.htm

Educational Guide
Frequent masturbation and ejaculation stimulate acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions. Excessive stimulation can result in over production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin.

Abundant and unusually large amount of these hormones and neurotransmitters can cause the brain and adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion and turn the brain and body functions to be extremely sympathetic. In other words, there is a big change of body chemistry when one excessively masturbates.

Masturbation is a healthy sexual behavior. Like other behaviors, when over practiced or addicted it can lead to both psychological and physiological imbalances.

The side effects of such changes to the body include:

•Fatigue. Feeling tired all the time
•Lower back pain
•Thinning hair / Hair Loss
•Soft / Weak Erection
•Premature Ejaculation
•Eye floaters or fuzzy vision
•Groin / Testicular Pain
•Pain or cramp in the pelvic cavity or/and tail bone
Masturbation plays a big role in a normal sex life. Some of us discover it as children because it starts to feel so good between our legs. Others are shown by our friends. We continue to masturbate because it feels so good. It gets us ready for mature sexual relationships when we reach adulthood, and it helps us take care of those raging hormonal urges and surges when we are teenagers. Masturbation can enhance mature sexual relationships where two partners use it either as a prelude to other sexual activity, or as the main fare. And it keeps us going when relationships falter, such as when a partner is ill or away. It is a great equalizer in a relationship where one partner needs more sexual activity than the other.

How much is too much masturbation?
That depends but it's suggested men keep their ejaculation frequency down to 2-3 times a week. However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system and make your penis firmer, your erections last longer, and your ejaculate volume bigger.

Masturbation is a part of life and our sexual practices. In fact, most doctors recommend it, not only to improve sexual experiences but to also promote good general health. However, like most things in life, too much of a good thing can be bad. Excessive masturbation can lead to symptoms like stress, fatigue, and memory loss. In extreme cases, sufferers fall into the pitfalls of impotence and hair loss.

Under most circumstances, masturbation is neither good nor bad
One recently published study reported that 87% of women and 95% of men have practiced masturbation—but when done to extreme, it causes drastic changes in brain and body chemistry. Masturbating too much can over-stimulate acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions and disrupt the liver’s release of enzymes that synthesize neurotransmitters acetylcholine, dopamine, and serotonin. Additionally, the liver’s ability to release enzymes that aid in hormone production is affected. As a result, the brain and adrenal glands produce too much dopamine, norepinephrine, epinephrine, and other hormones and neural transmitters.

Symptoms (also called Sexual Exhaustion) is distressing liver and nervous system functions, include youthful impotence/erectile dysfunction (including a soft or weak erection) and seminal leakage. While more than 30% of men have experienced impotence at one time or another, impotence in youth is more rare and can often be attributed to the above factors.

Over-masturbation can also cause problems such as seminal leakage, which can cause sperm to ooze or leak out of the penis with no accompanying erection. Both semen leakage and youthful impotence are embarrassing, uncomfortable, and signs of Sexual Exhaustion.

Semen leakage is a sign that the parasympathetic nerve, which keeps the ejaculation valve shut and holds the erection, is weakening as a result of over-masturbation. With a weakened nerve, maintaining an erection is a problem.

Get Rid From The Addictive Behavior?
The first step to getting better is to reduce masturbation and ejaculation frequency and try to overcome this bad habit. Eat more soybean products and eliminating excessive caffeine from your diet. Focus on nutty foods like sunflower seeds, and peanuts and eat more sea foods, seaweed, vegetables, and try to minimize red meat and dairy product intake. Instead of soda, try drinking orange juice or cranberry juice and, of course, drink plenty of water.

We have developed Kohinoor Gold in order to combat sexual exhaustion and reverse the effects that over-masturbation has on your body. Feel your erections become more firm and more engorged, you will be able to last longer, feel less pain in the prostate and testicles, and feel more alert and energized.

I would take most of the above with a large grain of salt.
 
I would take most of the above with a large grain of salt.

It's definitely taken with a grain of salt I would like to add that some of the side effects he listed I myself experienced. I am not saying what he say's is truth in the absolute term I even think he is off on a lot of points but it is something to think about.
 
In particular, this part

However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system

This idea has been around for a long time and appears to be a piece of 'Taoist' disinformation.
 
The material I would add is this presentation : http://yourbrainonporn.com/ dealing with the brain changes and dopamine receptor exaustion due to porn, and other addictions.

May you have strength in your battle.

Edit: Have you tried the Éiriu Eolas breathing and meditation program? It helps the process of detoxifying mind and body, and addictions tend to have a emotional/psychological reason for being there.
If you are not aware of the program you can watch the presentation here : http://eiriu-eolas.org/
 
Perceval said:
In particular, this part

However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system

This idea has been around for a long time and appears to be a piece of 'Taoist' disinformation.

Agree
 
myth said:
I have been fighting a porn addition for about two years and have recently made some progress.
I was wondering what the forums consensus on is pornography/hentai and if anyone has also had a battle with this beast.
Not okay? Its okay? Okay with restraint?(i still do struggle with it myself)

"the level of being of a man attracts his life."

If i am addicted to porn, my everyday thinking is influenced by pornography. If i see a girl i immediately substitute her with a sex object: where i am a male actor in a porn film that began to run in my mind and she is a sex puppet and of course she is enjoying the porn i give to her, just as i saw the actors faking or do really are enjoying themselves in pornographic materials on the web.

Porn addiction has to be a secondary personage inside the addicts mind, i think. Usually younger than the persons real age, immature.

If the porn-addict is persuasive enough, i think, he can make the girl believe that the sexual act is a love act. Nothing could be farther from the truth however.

Making love should be real-love in the making, but in reality [in this case], it is an imitation of pornography performed by the porn-addict and his persuaded partner. The girl could believe for many months or couple of years that she is loved, by the proof that the porn-addict is willing to engage in sexual activity with her, which she interprets that the porn-addict loves her. The porn-addict however is incapable to love: he doesn't know what love is, has not been taught about real Love, has no concept, does not grok, don't understand, incapable to express, hasn't the faintest clue what Love is.

This is the real tragedy here. Inability to understand real love. By extension a porn addict cannot - i think - give love, he/she cannot make real love:

In short: a porn addict is not capable of feeling real love during the sexual act, therefore the sexual act becomes pornography performed by the porn-addict and her persuaded girlfriend.
 
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