pornography

[Vulcan59]

What is EE?

Hi myth,

EE stands for Eíriú-Eolas. Have a look here at the guide and FAQ. EE also has it's own website and forum. Have a look here. :)

 

[beetlemaniac]

This is something I've been fighting with for a long time as well. From what I have realised, porn has extremely complicated effects on our mind and body, and even attempting to think about it's effects can be 'dangerous', since sometimes the pull can be so great. But still, it is a cultural phenomenon and it is only fully effective on people who are mired in the psychopathic mindset that the mainstream propagates. Saying that, regular practice of EE and PoTS is imperative. Also I would think having a detached view of oneself through self-observation would be very effective in combating this problem.

This bit of information has helped me find a way out of the problem, it's has really helped prepare my mind to ride through the strong feelings which arise unexpectedly.

the wave theory

Most therapists do not know how to treat sexual addictions. Self control and self discipline or a rational approach generally don't change anything. I tell both husband and wife about the "wave" which periodically hits the patient and overwhelms him with temptation. This is something most men cannot resist.

One of the goals of therapy is to prepare the man to face and defeat the wave. These waves vary in frequency from several times a day to once a year or even less. Between the waves the man feels at peace and has the mistaken notion that he has his power and can resist anything. But this is an illusion and is only temporary until the next wave hits him. I explain to the couple that as a therapist I'm like a guide to Mount Everest.

I can show them how to get there but they have to walk every step of the way. They have to do all the work. I assure them they can heal. But like alcoholics when sober, sexual addicts must be careful not to expose themselves in the future to high-risk situations. I also explain that they are not mentally ill in the classical sense but that they have an addiction which powerfully controls their lives, somewhat like being on crack cocaine.

And the journey to freedom will not be easy.

It will require an enormous commitment on their part to become whole again. I assign both husband and wife to read Patrick Carnes' book, Out of the Shadows and Steven Kramer's book, Worth of a Soul. I have the husband begin attending Sexaholics Anonymous. There are chapters in nearly every city in America. They are free. To find where and when one meets, call Alcoholics Anonymous (in all the phone books). They will know.

There's a lot more in this site, "the ultimate essay on the impact of cyberporn on men" is also a good read: _http://www.thisisawar.com/AddictionPorn.htm

I've been sober for some time, I can't remember how long but it's probably been a few months.

Just my two cents. :)

 

[cubbex]

I don't know if has been posted, but this helped me a lot to understand my actual ideas that I was not really addicted to porn or food or whatever lifes serves for ourselves. I was addicted to those chemicals in my brain.

_http://yourbrainonporn.com/your-brain-on-porn-series

 

[ctw5000]

I plan on getting the EE program, I need to focus hard on this , this is something I have struggled with as long as I can remember and time is running out. As pathetic as it sounds this is my life goal to take control of this predators mind. It's gone on long enough.I have asked for help for a long time(internally) and I think my request has been aswered. I ve thought to myself numerous times that if I had all the time I have wasted with this I could have been a brain surgeon.
thx for sharing ur stories.

 

[RyanX]

I ve thought to myself numerous times that if I had all the time I have wasted with this I could have been a brain surgeon.
thx for sharing ur stories.

Boy, you got that right! And not even just in the sense of porn, but all types of imaginary thinking. It's incredible how much time and energy goes into imagination. Porn is just the worst of the worst due to the brain chemistry hooks that go along with it.

I agree, I think EE would be a great thing to start if you haven't. The diet topics are another good place to start too. Once you're giving your body optimal fuel and balance your brain chemistry, you might find it a lot easier to fight off those urges.

 

[ctw5000]

Thx RyanX,
I can t seem to do it by seer will, although the link the gentleman previously sent is invaluable. Once you understand whats going on in your brain I'm hoping it makes it alittle easier to resist. I'm excited to see how the breathing techniques affect me..

 

[Nienna]

I ve thought to myself numerous times that if I had all the time I have wasted with this I could have been a brain surgeon.
thx for sharing ur stories.

Boy, you got that right! And not even just in the sense of porn, but all types of imaginary thinking. It's incredible how much time and energy goes into imagination. Porn is just the worst of the worst due to the brain chemistry hooks that go along with it.

I agree, I think EE would be a great thing to start if you haven't. The diet topics are another good place to start too. Once you're giving your body optimal fuel and balance your brain chemistry, you might find it a lot easier to fight off those urges.

Please don't think that diet changes are not important in brain chemistry, CTW5000. I strongly suggest, if you haven't already, to read the threads about "Life Without Bread" and "Vegetarian Myth" along with other threads in the diet and health board. What we eat, especially carbs, coffee, sugar, packaged foods, etc., really screw up our brains chemistry. Changing your diet to a high fat/protein diet, along with doing the EE program will give you some really surprising results.

As pathetic as it sounds this is my life goal to take control of this predators mind.

This is NOT a pathetic goal! This is something we all should be striving for. Have you read any of the Narcissism Big 5 books? There are many layers to our programing, and these books really help in looking at ourselves and helping us to stop the programming.

 

[ctw5000]

hi Neimma,
I plan on getting alot of the books that are available from Laura including Gurdjieff "s stuff, I also have to reread the wave series as I was soo taken aback the first time I read it, I would skip through alot. If you have any other suggestions I would apprieciate it, also are there any books about the paleo diet??
Thank You

 

[vinny]

also are there any books about the paleo diet??
Thank You

There certainly are. Check the following threads for lots more information:

The Vegetarian Myth

"Life Without Bread"

 

[Nienna]

Ctw5000,

In case you've missed it in the official welcome message, here is the recommended reading list which has the Narcissism Big 5 books listed along with many, many other books.

 

[mkrnhr]

Concerning this subject, http://www.sott.net/articles/show/231669-This-Is-Your-Brain-On-Porn

 

[ctw5000]

Thanks everyone!
This site, and the people on it, have given me the strength and focus to change myself in profound ways.

 

[Piotrek]

[quote author=Perceval]
In particular, this part

However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system

This idea has been around for a long time and appears to be a piece of 'Taoist' disinformation.
[/quote]
I've read a few books on Taoism that seem to agree with the quoted fragment (orgasming without ejaculation being a way to retain Jing).

Could you post a bit more information about how you came to the conclusion that it is disinformation (articles, books, etc..).

Thanks!
P

 

[Approaching Infinity]

[quote author=Perceval]
In particular, this part

However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system

This idea has been around for a long time and appears to be a piece of 'Taoist' disinformation.

I've read a few books on Taoism that seem to agree with the quoted fragment (orgasming without ejaculation being a way to retain Jing).

Could you post a bit more information about how you came to the conclusion that it is disinformation (articles, books, etc..).

Thanks!
P
[/quote]

Considering what Lierre Keith says in Vegetarian Myth, and what John Schumaker says in Corruption of Reality, perhaps this was a religious 'myth' encouraged as a form of population control?

 

[Joe]

[quote author=Perceval]
In particular, this part

However, sexual activity can be experienced more often if men learn how to orgasm without ejaculation. Doing so can actually store bioenergy into your system

This idea has been around for a long time and appears to be a piece of 'Taoist' disinformation.

I've read a few books on Taoism that seem to agree with the quoted fragment (orgasming without ejaculation being a way to retain Jing).

Could you post a bit more information about how you came to the conclusion that it is disinformation (articles, books, etc..).

Thanks!
P
[/quote]

Let me ask it the other way around. Is thereany evidence, scientific or otherwise, to suggest there is any "jing" retention? Has anyone practiced it? What were the results? Did anyone get super-powers? Or even improvements in any area of their lives?