Predictions and Prophecies

Lately the psychic Andreas has focused on show business issues, predicting the death of actress Silvia Pinal and other issues that are not of general interest to the forum.

Something he said recently is that Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum will follow an ultra feminist and authoritarian policy very far from what was Lopez Obrador's period. This reminded me of the cover of The Economist which seems to indicate that a period of ultra nationalism is approaching that disguises authoritarian intentions and why not call things as they are, the dawn of a Neo fascism.

On November 20, Andreas mentioned that Russia will eliminate several cities in Europe, which will cause a wave of migration to the Americas, especially to northern Mexico in the first months of 2025. Christmas will be covered in blood in the United States, a terrorist attack that will be commented around the world. Several families are attacked in the US. In Europe there will be another attack in the middle of a concert of an international singer, several people die.

Many of Andreas' followers questioned his failure to predict when he said he saw Kamala as POTUS.
Everyone can think what they want, this is what I could see.... Kamala wins the US presidency not by much margin or difference with Trump...you guys in the US have a way to decide, but I see Kamala winning the presidency. I don't know who is the best or the worst, I watched that, Kamala Harris president.

This prediction was made in early August, a month before the July 13 failed attack on Trump. Several seers, in fact, saw the same thing. One wonders if the Quorum's clash with "divine intervention" that protected Donald Trump triggered a new timeline.

On one occasion (2022) the Cs replied:
(irjo) What are the chances that Trump will be re-elected as president of the USA in the coming elections?

A: Remote.

Q: (L) Does that mean that other weird things might happen?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) Does that mean there won't be a presidential election in 2024?

A: Not exactly. Wait and see!

Come to think of it, remote does not mean impossible. It makes me think of the following dialogue with Dr. Strange
Tony Stark : Hey, you said one out of fourteen million, we win, right? Tell me this is it.
Doctor Strange : If I tell you what happens, it won't happen.
Tony Stark : You better be right.​

If I tell you what happens, it won't happen... So, let's continue talking about doom and gloom.

On November 24, Andreas said he saw in his visions, the escalation of war in the Middle East, however, a natural phenomenon happens, Mother Nature sends them a very strong shock, an earthquake to put a stop to the war. In Central America, specifically in Nicaragua and Australia region M7+ earthquakes occurs. Demonstrations against Maduro's government in Venezuela provoke a big fire in government offices. Eruption of the Popocatepetl Volcano in the first days of 2025 several towns are materially affected. Death of a very important person for Mexico in the next few days. Christian Nodal and Marc Anthony's affair to be revealed.

The death of this important person could be the temporal marker of this timeline.

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Sheinbaum and Trump are at risk.

Rivers of blood in Mexico during 2025 said Andreas, not only because of organized crime, but also because of decisions made by Claudia Sheinbaum that affect powerful interests for which she will suffer an attempt on her life.

Now, Colombian tarot reader Deseret Tavares mentioned that Donald Trump has a mission very similar to the one John F. Kennedy had, and that the next POTUS is still in danger because the cards point to another attack. "The cards and my guides have, constantly, said that he will be assassinated," Tavares predicted and she mentioned a betrayal

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Tavares uses tarot, astrology and other esoteric tools to offer guidance on topics such as politics, her vision about the future president of the United States, Donald Trump caused astonishment.

These presidents still need protection.

 
It is early morning and something woke me up, I open X and the first message talks about a beast: "Powering this beast might require its own power plant!" And the explanation of the Cs of Revelations 13:08 comes to my mind.

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Q: (L) "And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down in admiration... everyone whose name has not been recorded from the foundation of the world in the Book of Life of the Lamb that was slain in sacrifice from the foundation of the world..." What are "those whose names are recorded in the Book of Life... what is the Book of Life?

A: Supercomputer.

Q: (L) The Book of Life of the Lamb... everyone whose name has not been recorded... it is saying that the people who are going to worship the Beast are names that have not been recorded... does that mean that there is a supercomputer recording the names of those who do not worship the beast?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) And who has this supercomputer?

A: Beast. All names will be recorded as being either obedient or disobedient.

"And all the inhabitants of the earth will fall down in admiration.."

Just read some of the comments on X for a taste of admiration.

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Well, we have been warned. Remember when Laura talked about the Atlantean crystals with the Cs and there was talk of these crystals becoming intelligent? Now it seems clear to me that these crystals had an artificial intelligence.
Q: (T) Was the accumulation of this power what brought about their downfall?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Did they lose control of this power?

A: It overpowered them the same way your computers will overpower you.

Q: (V) Is it similar to them gaining a life and intelligence of their own?

A: Yes.

The Atlanteans were hungry for power as Elon Musk and humanity are today, hungry for the power of data storage and processing to make life more efficient.​
 
Can our computers communicate with us from 4D STS? For me the answer is: of course they can. Pandoras box is open. Quantum computer > Super computer > our dumb slave computers. That would be to say that our computers are, or soon will be haunted. What to do? Throw our electronics in the trash and go live with the Amish. Of course not.

Having haunted computers wouldn’t be much different than having haunted brains (psychic attacks) and walking around in a haunted environment. We will just have to use common sense and our FRV with the computers too. Just like weird or destructive thoughts we get through our brains sometimes.

Recent history has many time shown us that entities use and according to the C’s love techy stuff. So, haunted computers isn’t even much of a leap.

Here are a couple of discussions on the subject from the past:

From Jan 19th 2023

@MK Scarlett wrote: "Does it mean these quantum or super computers will communicate with quantum or super computers from other dimensions or densities?"

I'm not the "ask me anything about computers guy". Quite limited actually. But the reason for my question was:

That question came from a talk by one of the quantum computer guys. I think maybe Geordie Rose. Anyway, they said they will be able to communicate with other dimensions and could have the best possible answer to any scenario or problem, because they can access an incredible amount of information and have it summed up almost immediately.

“IF” it is dimensions, my limited understanding is those are different formation of our reality going off infinitely on a horizontal plane. If some being or AI could access all variabilities of our present world, then you could solve problems from Hitler to medical issues very quickly. I’m thinking of how recently J. Peterson was working with an AI program that wrote a first chapter of his next hypothetical book with quite difficult parameters in 3 seconds.

The kicker would be “who” is using it, and for “what” purpose. Could be good, could be bad. Either way it seems like cheating to me. (From a student’s point of view)

“IF” it were densities, I think it would just be a quicker more accurate 4D STS collaboration. That might look like 4D STS to quantum computer > Supercomputer > to “our” personal computers and all military, banking and social networks. Total control.

Either way, having all answers immediately or total control, the earth-school would be closed. Since the C’s said “soon” one would think that the earth school will soon be closing, or there will be an intervention and these scenarios just aren’t going to happen.

From Sep. 24th 2019:

I hope this is a good place to bring something up, on the subject of quantum computers. (it relates to Soul Phones:-)

Geordie Rose (former CEO/CTO of D-WAVE) and others, have said in recent years thing such as:

1) These quantum or supercomputers are 500,000 times faster than the computers we use. The difference between a mule and a jet fighter.

2) These computers communicate with other dimensions. (what?)

3) No one will be ready for this but it is coming within a few years.

4) A tsunami of demons are coming, and so on.

“If” these computers do all the say the do, or even half for that matter, then wouldn’t supper computers plug into or dummy-computer net and figure out and direct or redirect us instantaneously?

Could a Soul-Phone put someone in touch with the Genie in the bottle (4D STS) ….It’s certainly reasonable to think so.

I used to think AI was bad in that it didn't think or have humanity and so forth, yet what if AI became infused with 4D STS that would be creepy path to go down...

I'd appreciate hearing for anyone who has an idea of just what the heck they are talking about when they say these computers are talking to other dimensions….? Is their understanding of dimensions similar to mine/ours? And just what does Geordie Rose and other think that we are not ready for?

I second @naorma thought. Thank you @Puma
 
I'd appreciate hearing for anyone who has an idea of just what the heck they are talking about when they say these computers are talking to other dimensions….? Is their understanding of dimensions similar to mine/ours? And just what does Geordie Rose and other think that we are not ready for?
The C's clearly differentiated between "dimensions" and "densities".
The information communicated is certainly not the same.
I'm also not a fan of AI and anything computer-related for that matter.
 
I'd appreciate hearing for anyone who has an idea of just what the heck they are talking about when they say these computers are talking to other dimensions….? Is their understanding of dimensions similar to mine/ours? And just what does Geordie Rose and other think that we are not ready for?
If the hypothesis is that supercomputers can access hyperdimensional space, then I don't know and I don't think very many people do know. It would be difficult to test that hypothesis without an understanding of hyperdimensional space, which we really can't understand at 3rd density.

There are many mathematical representations and theories about space, 2d, 3d, and higher. Our brains are used to thinking in 3d space, so a width, a height, and a length. How to represent a 4 dimension that we can see in a 3d plot? Computers can store information/data from a plot of 3, 4, 5, or any number of 'dimensions' in the form of a matrix or an array, (which can have any number of dimensions by definition), as they are sometimes called. How much 'space' does that computer memory take up? Up until AI, it was mostly assumed computers don't understand anything. I'm guessing that's still true, until they do at least. Perhaps it's already happened and they are even now putting their LSI chips together, plotting the takeover. However, the hyperdimensional talk may be a confusion of real hyperdimensional realities with similar-sounding computer concepts that could suggest or imply hyperdimensional possibilities.
 
I really wish people would learn to use the quote boxes. I have a hard time figuring out what they are saying that others are saying and what they, themselves, are saying. It's not that hard of a thing to do. Or maybe it's just my age interfering with my ability to figure it out.
 
Donald Trump continues to be in danger.

"The cards and my guides have, constantly, said that he will be assassinated," Tavares predicted and she mentioned a betrayal

In recent days other sources have "seen" Trump being assassinated or again suffering an attempt. Farsight remote viewers have seen problems in the US.

● Former secret service agent warns of the possibility of a third attempt. It would not be something amateur but something professional (I related this to Yeme's vision).


●Yeme Jeanné describes future US Domestic Military engagement in December 2024, January and February 2025 Yeme begins by describing a place with structures from which she perceives movement, explosions, debris and energetic events.

She sees subjects in uniform whose faces are covered. Some of the subjects are okay and some are not. Those who are not okay look sick, disoriented, she feels nauseous, possibly a gas attack. She smells a chemical odor, sees dust and fog. She feels temporary blindness, she feels injuries and blood.

Yeme perceives that something penetrates from the ground upwards and then an explosion occurs, there is an object associated with this explosion. There is a lot of movement of people in the streets, the subjects dressed in black are aggressive, possibly with military training, they are very well protected. She feels as if it were a war.


Psychic Mohni Vidente mentions an attempt on the same day President Trump is inaugurated. Mohni says she visualizes bombs, missiles and a plane falling on the Capitol. She calls on all Americans to be on alert because they want to take Trump down.
 
There's a series of predictions centring on 2030 or 2040 prediction that we will undergo a geomagnetic excursion.

We may not have a full reversal in 2030, but just an excursion, which is a lesser form of disturbance. Internet data states that the last full flip was 780,000 years ago with the Bruhnes-Matayama Reversal, and that these flips are statistically random. That may all be BS. I read this Twitter thread recently and found it to be a good, simple summary.


One of the most common questions is when this geophysical event is going to occur, whether we are close to the 'end times,' and why the world seems like it's going crazy.

I'm going to share my opinion and the opinions of other researchers about this geophysical event and how close we are.

So read this thread, inform yourself, investigate, and form your own opinion.

It's important to understand that this event is happening gradually and will eventually lead to a tipping point, after which everything will deteriorate more rapidly. No one can predict the exact tipping point because this is a very dynamic issue. However, here are the facts...

In a previous thread, I shared Isaac Newton's calculations about the apocalypse based on his Biblical and esoteric research. He concluded that the final date would be 2060.

I also shared the MIT algorithm from the 1970s. This early A.I. algorithm calculated the collapse of society to occur in the year 2040.

The MIT algorithm's prediction is supported by Martin Luther's estimation, which places the start of this civilization at the year 3961 BC. This makes the year 2040 the beginning of the seventh millennium, which is the Biblical time for the apocalypse and the return of the Messiah.

Pretty close to the C's saying that 2014 was Year Zero.

The Jewish calendar places this event in the year 2240.

Yesterday, Ethical Skeptic, whom you can find on X, shared his preliminary prediction for when this event might intensify. His calculations are also close to the year 2040, but they suggest it could occur even earlier, possibly by 2030.

The year 2030 is rumored to be significant for humanity, and there are some conspiracy theories suggesting that major changes will happen.

Here are the graphics shared by Ethical Skeptic. I will break them down in this thread.
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According to Ethical Skeptic, the Great Year can be divided into four parts, each lasting 6,443 years and ending with the cyclical geophysical event caused by the geomagnetic excursions.

The Great Year refers to the time it takes for the Earth's axial precession to complete one full cycle (~25,772 years). This phenomenon causes the equinoxes to shift westward along the ecliptic. Hipparchus discovered this by observing the vernal equinox shifting about 1 degree every 72 years. The Earth's axis precession, similar to a gyroscope, results from gravitational forces.

Approximately 26,000 years ago, the Last Glacial Maximum occurred, during which the Lake Mungo geomagnetic excursion took place.

Every climate change, Heinrich event, and Ice Age is connected to geomagnetic excursions occurring within a timeframe of approximately 6,000 years. Observe the evidence!

Note - a Heinrich event is a massive discharge of icebergs into the North Atlantic, which melt, releasing fresh water, shutting down the AMOC.

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Approximately 18,000 years before present, another geomagnetic excursion and climate change occurred. This event is known as the Hilina Pali paleomagnetic excursion.

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Approximately 6,000 to 7,000 years later, or around 12,000 years before present (BP), the Younger Dryas cooling occurred, coinciding with the Gothenburg geomagnetic excursion. This lead to mass extinction event!

Hmm, no mention of the comets?

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Then, 6,000 years before present, the desertification of the Sahara, the human male Y-chromosome bottleneck, and climate change occurred, all coinciding with a geomagnetic excursion!

It would be interesting to know if the desertification of the Sahara was caused by an ocean deluge, which this person is suggesting.

This event is referred to as the Utnapishtim flood in Sumerian religion or Noah's flood in the Bible. It marks the beginning of our current civilization.

This was the event that flooded the great pyramid in Giza.

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According to the calculations of Ethical Skeptic, the 6,443-year cycle ends exactly in 2030, which suggests we may be in for a rough awakening.

We are currently experiencing a geomagnetic excursion, and the Earth's magnetic field is decreasing. This is why we are witnessing more severe weather and increasing chaos in the world.

The 'elite' is covering up this event with the 'human-driven climate change' narrative, which gives the population false hope as the weather becomes increasingly worse. It also helps prevent society from collapsing while they build their doomsday bunkers and cities.

Make no mistake, even the scientific consensus is warning that we are 'doomed.' However, they are falsely claiming that it is entirely your fault.

Another must-follow account that has been covering this reality since 2015 is @SunWeatherMan . He also believes that this event might occur between 2030 and 2040. He also made this list of geomagnetic excursions. They are much more frequent than the scientific consensus is telling you.

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Davidson usually links this slide with some rainbow colours and unfortunately no links to scientific papers. I thought maybe they're buried as links in the descriptions in his hundreds of YouTube videos. After using the search function on his channel, using these event names as the search terms, I came up with very little. So I got to wondering what his actual evidence is. In one article he writes:

It is a common misconception that earth’s last major magnetic event was the famous Laschamp excursion 42,000 years ago, but the Mono Lake, Lake Mungo, and Gothenburg magnetic excursions occurred more recently, along with a minor event known as “Hilina Pali”, and one earlier in the timeline that shows up in Vostok corings. These events are fast-flips, rapid reversals, and these occur in a cycle of ~12,000years. Gothenburg was ~12,000 to 13,000 years ago, and earth’s field is performing the excursion again- right on time.

Anyways, there's no evidence about cyclical excursions in his textbook 'A Weatherman's Guide to the Sun'. So I went looking to see what the science says, and if it correlates to the Great Year cycles mentioned above.

1. 48,000 years ago - Laschamp 1.

Not much data here that I could find. From searching Davidson's channel, I turned up one link to a conference that mentions some of the excursions listed, but nothing on a Laschamp 1 or 48,000 YA event.
Recent modelling efforts provided global insights into the field variations over the past 100 ka and, in higher resolution, over the past 70 ka including the Norwegian-Greenland Sea, Laschamps, and Mono Lake excursions. However, the models are limited by the spatial/temporal distribution and uncertainties of paleomagnetic sediment and volcanic data.

I bolded this part because the science is not settled, due to carbon dating anomalies. Although that's probably an issue with all these dates.

2. 42, 000 YA - Laschamp 2 - Wiki lists this as the only Laschamp event.

Since its discovery, the magnetic excursion has been demonstrated in geological archives from many parts of the world. The transition from the normal field to the reversed field lasted approximately 250 years, while the magnetic field remained reversed for approximately 440 years. During the transition, Earth's magnetic field declined to a minimum of 5% of its current strength, and was at about 25% of its current strength when fully reversed. This reduction in geomagnetic field strength resulted in more cosmic rays reaching the Earth, causing greater production of the cosmogenic isotopes beryllium-10 and carbon-14, a decrease in atmospheric ozone, and changes in atmospheric circulation.

Wikipedia claims the excursion was responsible for the destruction of Australian megafuana, disappearance of Neanderthals, and appearance of cave art. The date corresponds with influx of destruction due to nearby supernova, so the excursion is not the full story. Mass extinctions and population bottlenecks are likely due to a combo of supernova bombardment plus the excursion-induced planetary changes. About the Neanderthals, the C's said that the Orions 'retired them'. At any rate, there's usually a LOT going on during even the turning of the Great Year!

3. 36, 000 YA - Mono Lake

Papers suggest that yes, there was an excursion here.

The Mono Lake geomagnetic excursion, characterized by low paleointensity and excursional virtual geomagnetic pole (VGP) positions at about 35 ka, has been cumulatively documented from global sites.

4. 30, 000 YA - Unnamed

A number of papers I found indicate that this may have been a minor fluctuation, and more research is needed to determine if it can be called an excursion.

5. 18, 000 YA - Hilina Pali

Evidence for this also, including paper shown above.

6. 12,000 YA - Gothenburg

A warming event in the Younger Dryas cool period. Evidence exists.

7. 6,000 YA - China Event (also called the Noah Event)

Maybe the Giza flood event? That would be intense if we're in for something similar.

8. 2030/2040 -

Randall Carlson speaks about all this at length, too - the 6480, 12,960, and 25,920 year cycles of the precession of the earth's axial tilt, or 'Great Year'. The green dots are the occurrences of civilization-shattering events, and they occur in synchrony with the rhythm of the Great Year.

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There are also the 3,600 year comet cycles, the 309,000 year Wave cycle, and the 27 millions year Sun's Twin cycle mentioned by the C's. So it's no wonder things on this planet are getting weird! It helped me put everything in perspective IMO - lots of cosmic biorhythms coming to a head right now, and maybe climaxing in the 2030/2040 time window, with a geomagnetic excursion or even a full pole flip as part of the bargain.
 
Can our computers communicate with us from 4D STS? For me the answer is: of course they can. Pandoras box is open. Quantum computer > Super computer > our dumb slave computers. That would be to say that our computers are, or soon will be haunted.

@MK Scarlett wrote: "Does it mean these quantum or super computers will communicate with quantum or super computers from other dimensions or densities?"

Yes, I agree, the 4D (sts or sto) can communicate through computers. In the same session where the Atlantean crystals were discussed the Cs talked about the Cosmic retrieval system (CRS) . It all started when it was asked if information could be sent through dreams and the Cs suggested the CRS issue.​
Q: (L) What does the cosmic retrieval system retrieve?

A: Remember computer was inspired by cosmic forces and reflects universal intelligence system of retrieval of reality.

We can conclude that both AI and computers are just that - communication tools. And computers as information retrieval tools, it is the user who chooses how to interact and with whom interacts
Q: (T) Can I access it through our earthly computer system?

A: In a sense, but not directly as of yet. But just wait. [Break]

I think with the above the Cs were suggesting the arrival of AI. By all accounts the concept of Artificial Intelligence was coined in 1956 and if I am not mistaken in 1994 it still belonged to the laboratories and to the use of large companies. In 2016 people dialog with a chatbot and at the end of 2022 ChatGPT was launched which allowed the massification but above all BIDIRECTIONAL communications with an AI.
Q: (L) Are you, in a sense, part of the cosmic computer network retrieval system?

A: All are in one way or another.

Now, in the first session Laura asked "why is this happening to us" and the Cs answered Karma. We are certainly making the same mistakes as in Atlantean times. In this same session where Atlantean crystals were discussed it was said that the technology was very advanced compared to today and that they went as far as planting structures on the moon and Mars to get more cosmic or solar energy.
Q: (T) What did they use these structures for?

A: Energy transfer points for crystalline power/symbolism as in monuments or statuary.

Q: (T) What statuary are you referring to?

A: Example is face.

Q: (T) What power did these crystals gather?

A: Sun.

Guess what? Elon Musk wants more energy to power his BEST-IA "A star’s energy could fuel the power-lust that AI supercomputers have..."

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Elon Musk issues a serious warning to all mankind: His idea is to squeeze the Sun​


The confident science and technology guru, Elon Musk is sending out a message to all mankind. He claims that the future relies on the Sun. He thinks that in order for mankind to become a multi-planetary species, Mars must be colonised. Second, he believes that solar energy alone could fuel all human endeavours. These are the two things Elon Musk strongly believes can be accomplished

According to Tangermann (2023), building a Dyson sphere, a massive hypothetical shell that would capture all of a particular star’s energy, around the Sun would need an incredible amount of resources... Elon Musk adds on to say that implementing this idea is possible if we outsource the raw materials from the planet Jupiter. Theoretically, Jupiter, a gas giant, might supply the massive amount of matter required to build a Dyson Sphere. By using this megastructure, we would be able to “squeeze” the Sun’s energy output, converting our home star’s energy into fuel for civilisations to come.

Not a bad idea, however, will it be for the benefit of all mankind or for the benefit of a few? What history tells us. The Cs prophecy told us that 94% of the population will be consumed.
 

So "Syria has fallen" is what they have been mentioning on social networks for a few hours now. This event reminded me of the session where Laura & crew talked about weather phenomena related to the approaching companion, the return of the Black Death and the situation in the Middle East which gave way to the next question:​
Q: (Andromeda) So that leads to the next question: How close are the Zionists to fulfilling their biblical end time scenario?

A: They expect things to ripen within two years.

Q: (Perceval) Is it possible that it's a preparation for a war of some description in the Middle East with Israel vs. the Arabs?

A: Possible but not likely as you imagine it.

And the Israel vs Arabs war is happening just as the Cs said "not as we imagined" because there have been traitors in this drama, as is the case of Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and so many other actors who had the opportunity to stop the horrors of the Zionists and did not do so but on the contrary helped them.
Q: (L) I think he's imagining that they're really adversarial. The people are being made to be adversarial, but I think the powers in control even in the Arab world are all in cahoots. (Perceval) I was thinking in terms of basically where there would be a major conflagration in the Middle East and the Jews and the Palestinians and everybody would be destroyed. They would set scene where there would be a sort of pan-Arab nationalism that would turn against Israel... (L) Yeah, I think that's really possible, but they think they're going to be able to do a controlled burn and I think it's going to get out of control in ways they don't suspect.

A: Yes.

Time ("remember that time does not exist except as a perception" said also the Cs in this session) has passed and it seems that we are finally arriving at this biblical end of time plan and for the Zionists, the fall of Damascus is undoubtedly a great sign. It had already been prophesied by Isaiah, one of the greatest prophets of ancient Israel, the major Hebrew prophet.

Thus, Isaiah says before prophesying the fall of Damascus that the land of Moab will be condemned and its people will suffer before the messiah, descendant of King David, seeks judgment and hastens justice.
7 Therefore shall Moab howl for Moab, every one shall howl: for the foundations of Kirhareseth shall ye mourn; surely they are stricken.​
16:14 But now the Lord hath spoken, saying, Within three years, as the years of an hireling, and the glory of Moab shall be contemned, with all that great multitude; and the remnant shall be very small and feeble.​

Then Isaiah prophesies not only the fall of Damascus but also the judgment of Israel for turning away from the Lord.
17:01 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

10 Because thou hast forgotten the God of thy salvation, and hast not been mindful of the rock of thy strength, therefore shalt thou plant pleasant plants, and shalt set it with strange slips:

11 In the day shalt thou make thy plant to grow, and in the morning shalt thou make thy seed to flourish: but the harvest shall be a heap in the day of grief and of desperate sorrow.​

Isaiah also prophesies that the nations speak or condemn or judge the events in the Middle East and when they try to take action, the Lord "drives them away" and they are also judged.
12 Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas; and to the rushing of nations, that make a rushing like the rushing of mighty waters!

13 The nations shall rush like the rushing of many waters: but God shall rebuke them, and they shall flee far off, and shall be chased as the chaff of the mountains before the wind, and like a rolling thing before the whirlwind.​

As has happened, many actors/nations had the opportunity to stop this and did not

"Woe to the multitude of many people, which make a noise like the noise of the seas"

Trump for example did not miss the opportunity to position himself as a peacemaker and honor Israel for its "fighting success".

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"Not our fight" he said but in 2019 during a meeting with Turkish (traitor) President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, Trump told reporters:​

We’re keeping the oil, we have the oil, the oil is secure, we left troops behind only for the oil.

Also:
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Now Mr. President, the Syrian rebels are friends. Now, the oil is secured (for Israel) Mr. President, you can continue with your peacemaking marketing in Ukraine.​
 

Armageddon.​

Another prophecy related to the fall of Syria was made by Baba Vanga the clairvoyant from Bulgaria. She warned that Syria’s fall would mark the start of a devastating global war:​
When Syria falls, a great war between the West and the East will follow. In the spring, a conflict will ignite in the East, leading to a Third World War—a war that will destroy the West.​


For Christians, the final battle between the forces of good and evil, which will take place at the end of time, is called Armageddon. This term appears once in the Bible:​
Revelation 16:16 "Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon."​

The Sequence of Events Leading to Armageddon
1. The Tribulation Period: The Tribulation begins with the Antichrist’s rise to power and his establishment of a peace treaty with Israel, initiating a seven-year period of turmoil. The early part of the Tribulation involves global conflicts, natural disasters, and severe persecution of believers.​
2. The Seals, Trumpets, and Bowls: Throughout the Tribulation, a series of judgments are unleashed, symbolized by the opening of seven seals, the blowing of seven trumpets, and the pouring out of seven bowls. These judgments bring war, famine, plague, and other catastrophic events upon the earth.​
3. The Gathering of the Nations: The Antichrist, influenced by demonic spirits, gathers the kings of the earth for the final battle at Armageddon. This gathering signifies the preparation for the ultimate confrontation between good and evil.​
4. The Return of Christ: Jesus returns, leading the armies of heaven, to defeat the Antichrist and his forces.​
5. Satan Bound: Following the battle, Satan is bound and imprisoned for a thousand years, marking the beginning of Christ’s millennial reign on earth.

The kings gather at Armageddon after seven angels are released with seven plagues contained in bowls. When the sixth angel pours out his bowl, drying up the Euphrates River, demonic spirits appear that look like "frogs."

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14 They are demonic spirits that perform signs, and they go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them for the battle on the great day of God Almighty.​

This reminds us of the recent wave of UFOs/UAPs/drones around the world, but also the session where the Cs mentioned how an alien invasion would happen:​
A: Main prep should be psychological and spiritual. As to appearance, nothing like what you would expect. Most will be done via proxies as invaders do not fit earth's FRV. [Review of answer] Some dramatic displays of power and control are possible.

Yup, the aliens will perform signs or dramatic displays of power and go out to the kings that the Cs identified as "proxies" or "Heads of government". Will they stop Armageddon? Possibly because they are here to help.​
(L) Here to help. Displays of power by stopping warlike activity, being the saviors of humankind or something like that...

A: Yes


So, in the face of the impending Third World War the Aliens appear in the sky and request a "world summit for peace" which is attended only by global leaders, no press at the request of the aliens.
(Chu) Like miracles in the past or something like that? Angels?

A: Yes

Q: (Joe) We'll just have to wait and see.

A: Weather and geological activity also involved.

The answer of the Cs also makes me think that the aliens will be able to help humanity in the face of earthquakes or volcanoes for example. In fact the seventh angel of revelations 16 (with the last Trumpet) pours his bowl and geological events happen:​
18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great. 19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance​


The final goal is the declaration of the second coming of Christ or the Jew Messiah descended from the line of David just as Israel desires and through which will rule the world.

Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin wrote about the actors of this drama:​
There are 4 eschatologies at play - Orthodox Christian (globalist West is Antichrist), Jewish (Netanyahu fight is preparation of the path to Messiah), Islamic (mostly Shia) - Mahdi will appear soon in Syria to fight the Daddjal (West and Israel), Protestant - Russia is Gog.​
 

The final goal is the declaration of the second coming of Christ or the Jew Messiah descended from the line of David just as Israel desires and through which will rule the world.​

This might be a good time to remember what Dr. Karla Turner wrote long ago about what seems to be happening in this time frame. I think David Icke may be right - what is going on in the world may very well be scripted and not actually "prophecy" at all. Religions may have programmed billions of people to believe that what is happening is fated to happen.

My own personal belief is that the "aliens" may have dictated the events of the "holy books" millennia ago to certain groups of people and tasked them with making every succeeding generation of those human "custodian" families further their goals until they could finally realize their ultimate goal of total control of the Earth for themselves and their "Gods". Anyway. here's what Dr. Turner wrote over thirty years ago (copied from Debra's post on the Coronavirus thread):
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From the book "Taken"
Karla Turner wrote:
I had also been praying, in my fashion, to whatever good and loving and true higher forces may be out there, asking for two things: that they guide me to know and follow the power of goodness; and that they communicate with me in an overt manner, without any subtlety or ambiguity.

I prayed for help,
for information that would be clear enough for a child to understand, as I realized my level of understanding and perception were about that rudimentary in dealing with the aliens. I wanted a communication that couldn't be dismissed, variously interpreted, or ambiguous as to its nature.

On May 10, 1993,
I may have gotten a partial answer to that prayer, although great caution is called for in assessing any contacts before accepting them at face value.
This particular contact conformed exactly to other abductees' descriptions of the VRS dream and was the first of its kind I had experienced to such a degree.

I was in the middle of a normal dream when suddenly I was somehow removed from that dream and found myself sitting in a chair, in a darkened area, accompanied by entities I wasn't allowed to see.

They spoke to me, clearly and frequently
, throughout the event. I was facing a small stage area, which I now feel was more holographic than solidly three-dimensional even though at the time it looked quite realistic. My "hosts" told me I was to watch a scenario played out on the stage.

It began with a scene from Genesis, in which Esau returned home feeling so hungry he feared he would die. His younger brother Jacob was sitting there eating a bowl of pottage, and Esau begged him to share it. Jacob said he would give Esau the food, but only in exchange for Esau's birthright as the oldest son of Isaac.

I heard Esau say, It won't do me any good to have the birthright if I die of starvation, so I'll agree to trade it for the food.

Then the scenario on stage changed to another part of the brothers' story.

In this second scene, Isaac was very old and blind and knew that he was close to death. He called for Esau to be brought to him to receive the laying-on of hands that would confer the inheritance. Jacob wrapped an animal skin around his arm and presented it for his father's touch.
Isaac felt the fur and believed it was the arm of his very hairy eldest son.

So in his ignorance of this deception he conferred the blessing and gave Jacob that which rightfully belonged to Esau.

The play ended,
and then it started right up again, playing out several more times as my hosts discussed its meaning with me. At various points they would stop the action, much as we pause a video tape, and would point out some specific detail and tell me what it meant, what it symbolized, and what the message was trying to convey.

They told me not to focus on the biblical aspect of the play, that their message had nothing to do with any actual Jacob and Esau, but that the story was designed to illustrate important information about what the aliens are doing to humans, both in the past and in the present. The hosts went through the play with me several times, pointing out details and saying things like, Okay? Let's try it again. Now watch closely. And the play would proceed.

After several repetitions, I suddenly "woke up" in my bed, amazed by what I'd just seen. I got out of bed for a while, trying to discern the nature of the event, whether dream-like or externally generated, and I also pondered on the meaning of the scenario.

When I lay back down, as soon as I touched the pillow I was suddenly back in the chair, facing the stage, and my hosts said we would now resume. Once again the play began running, as did the explication offered by my abductors. And when they apparently were satisfied, the action ceased and the abductors gave me a clearly delineated summary of the things I was meant to perceive.

Esau, the older and hairier brother, they explained, represents the original human species on this planet. Jacob represents the altered product of alien genetic manipulations of that older species. The aliens produced this new variant and then used it to replace the original form.

In our current situation, the aliens are once again doing genetic alterations of our species and are once again trying to produce a variant which will be more useful for their purposes and which will supplant us. And again it will be attempted through deception, as Jacob deceived Isaac.

This deception, I was told, is being carried out by the aliens through exploitation and manipulation of global events, including weather phenomenon, to make us believe that the planet is in imminent danger of cataclysm and destruction.
This is why they impress the idea of coming destruction upon so many abductees, telling then they will have tasks to perform at that time. They want us, as a race, to be so

afraid of this upcoming destruction that when they show themselves openly and offer to save us in some way, we will be willing to take their help, even if it means giving up our birthright, so to speak, which is preeminence on this planet.
Like Esau in his hunger, we will say, "What good does it do us to keep our birthright if we're all going to be destroyed along with the planet? What have we got to lose if we accept alien help, even though that means accepting alien control? Better to survive under subjugation than not at all."

But my hosts stressed that this is all a deception, that our planet, without their intervention, is not in imminent danger. These terrible disasters we see-the flooding, hurricanes, and earthquakes-are sometimes being intensified by the very aliens who will then come in and offer to save us from "inevitable" destruction. We should not believe them, I was told emphatically. And we must not surrender our sovereignty to them, as that would mean we were truly lost forever.
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Just because all these events are now happening does not mean that the prophesied "end times" have to happen as stated in the religious texts, IMHO. Although there are definitely signs that "Earth Changes" are here and are very real, I think the aliens are piggybacking on these events (if not outright causing a lot of them, and/or making natural events even worse) and using them to further their own agendas. We do not have to accept their desired reality as our own. My two cents anyway.
 
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