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Predictions and Prophecies
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Update from the Austrian clairvoyant Egon Fischer:
The War of the Elites
Years ago, the spiritual realm announced that a time would come when the elites would engage in a mortal struggle against one another. When the Iran conflict erupted, my spiritual colleagues observed that Netanyahu—the Prime Minister of Israel—would become a millstone around the necks of many members of the elites.
Some multi-billionaires are members of doomsday cults and actively wish for the end of the world. The representatives of the "pure" financial elites, however, do not seek an apocalypse, but rather investment opportunities. Naturally, should a war break out, they do not want their own investments to be affected. Many heads of government and the military-industrial complex, too, take no pleasure in the prospect of a global cataclysm, for in such an event, little would remain of the military-industrial complex or of many nations.
The spiritual realm stated years ago: The dark forces cannot act otherwise; they are compelled to destroy themselves.
A Brief Energetic Overview
I also examined the energy fields surrounding several nations and regions. The energy fields of the Arab Gulf states range in color from light to dark gray. Flashes of light—resembling lightning—appear repeatedly within these fields.
The energy field hovering over Europe now also exhibits a gray veil—one that is particularly dense over Germany, France, and the United Kingdom, and which contains dark clouds.
I sought to learn from my spiritual colleagues whether the information I had received many years ago—namely, that Germany, France, the United Kingdom, and other European nations such as Italy and Spain would undergo profound transformation—remains valid. The answer was: Yes.
Germany is being "plowed under"—a process that has already begun with the energy transition, deindustrialization, and the immense indebtedness of its municipalities, cities, and federal states. The United Kingdom is destined to disintegrate in the long term. In France, centralism will wane, while regionalization and decolonization will gain momentum. How and when this will manifest politically and structurally remains unclear. In Italy and Spain, a long-term perspective suggests that several autonomous provinces could emerge.
The Future of the USA
Above the USA, the energetic phenomenon I described in my last post is growing ever larger and more powerful. I can now perceive it with somewhat greater clarity. It could manifest sometime between late June and early July.
Certain hints or questions from my spiritual colleagues have left me somewhat perplexed. For instance, they remarked: "Many are of the opinion that the USA is self-sufficient in certain areas. But what if this is not the case?" I wanted to know what exactly they meant or were trying to imply. I received only this cryptic hint in response: "The Earth, too, is changing, and energetically displaying 'thawing phenomena'—or 'ascension symptoms.' Within the Earth, numerous destructive energies and energy fields have accumulated, which will eventually rise to the surface."
I also received a few other strange hints or observations regarding the USA from the spiritual realm. My spiritual colleagues suggested: "Energetically speaking, the USA is already a 'failed state' and is on a trajectory toward becoming a Third World nation." I received no further information or explanation regarding this remark.
The Future of Israel
Israel’s energy field bears a strong resemblance to the energy fields of the Arab Gulf states; however, it is also riddled with massive voids.
When the Maidan protests took place in Ukraine in 2014, I conducted several energetic analyses. Even back then, Israel was—energetically speaking—already dead. The spiritual realm predicted that there would first be a two-state solution (comprising an Israeli state and a Palestinian state), followed later by a one-state solution. Eventually, Jews, Muslims, Palestinians, Christians, and others would live together peacefully within the territory that constitutes present-day Israel.
In a video, Professor Jiang Xueqin remarked that Israel might potentially succeed in implementing its plans for a "Greater Israel." I subsequently inquired of the spiritual realm whether a Greater Israel would indeed come to pass. The response was remarkably dry: "How can an Israel that is already energetically dead manifest a Greater Israel?" While plans do exist, the probability of a "Greater Israel" is virtually zero.
Subsequently, I saw a blurred view of the Middle East from above. Once the conflict ends—or in the long term—the geopolitical landscape of the Middle East will look completely different. [...]
The Time of Transformation and the End Times Do Not Mean the End of the World
The End Times are part of the time of transformation—a period in which everything is changing. However, this does not mean that the world is coming to an end; it is merely undergoing change. This process brings with it a great deal of uncertainty and manipulation.
When I ask my spiritual guides what is particularly important for people right now, they consistently offer the same advice: one should remain in contact with one's soul—or spirit—and connect with the Earth.
I wish everyone all the best until my next post.
Egon Fischer
Das Ende dieser Welt, der USA, des Nahen Ostens und Europas
Der Iran-Konflikt, das Ende dieser Welt und die USA auf dem Weg in die Dritte Welt. Die älteste Prophezeiung der Welt und Weltuntergangsszenarien.efisch.substack.com
National Gods and Eschatology
At the February 2026 session, it was stated that the current conflict is complex; it is not merely a war over resources, but one in which hyperdimensional entities or national gods are involved, and it seems this has always been the case.
Zecharia Sitchin, in his book "The War of the Gods and Men", points out that "long before humans waged war against one another, the gods fought among themselves. The wars of humanity began as wars of the gods. These were disputes over control of the Earth"
According to Sitchin, Homer attributes the origin and course of war to the whim of the gods. The gods instigate the conflict, manipulate it, distort it, and determine its ultimate outcome. The immortals intervene directly: they choose sides, help or hinder the heroes, change the course of battles, turn night into day, rescue warriors, or even fight among themselves.
Barbara Marciniak states in "Bringers of the Dawn" that Earth is a Living Library or intergalactic hub for the exchange of information, but also a free will zone Thus, due to its genetic diversity and the freedom to experiment, Earth has been “invaded” or manipulated by various “creator gods” or hyperdimensional entities vying for control.
The Cs told us about a war between STO and STS forces that the STS won, and as a result, the STS subjugated humanity: they manipulated our DNA, implanted controls, and "lured" us toward materiality and the STS path through our own free will and desire to experience extreme physicality.
Given all of the above, it seems that another possible reason why the STS gods declare, intervene in, and manipulate humans into war is not only to decide who will control Earth’s material resources (1D, 2D, and 3D souls and flesh), but also who will survive or remain standing after the conflict—that is, which God will inherit the Earth.
So these gods tell their humans how important they are, and what tasks they must perform (Commonly, to destroy the other) to continue enjoying divine favor and ensure their future supremacy. Which brings us to eschatology.
There are two figures who have recently been drawing attention for their geopolitical views related to eschatology. They are Alexander Dugin and Jiang Xueqin.
Dugin made the following statement regarding the current conflict in the Middle East
Zecharia Sitchin, in his book "The War of the Gods and Men", points out that "long before humans waged war against one another, the gods fought among themselves. The wars of humanity began as wars of the gods. These were disputes over control of the Earth"
According to Sitchin, Homer attributes the origin and course of war to the whim of the gods. The gods instigate the conflict, manipulate it, distort it, and determine its ultimate outcome. The immortals intervene directly: they choose sides, help or hinder the heroes, change the course of battles, turn night into day, rescue warriors, or even fight among themselves.
Barbara Marciniak states in "Bringers of the Dawn" that Earth is a Living Library or intergalactic hub for the exchange of information, but also a free will zone Thus, due to its genetic diversity and the freedom to experiment, Earth has been “invaded” or manipulated by various “creator gods” or hyperdimensional entities vying for control.
The Cs told us about a war between STO and STS forces that the STS won, and as a result, the STS subjugated humanity: they manipulated our DNA, implanted controls, and "lured" us toward materiality and the STS path through our own free will and desire to experience extreme physicality.
Given all of the above, it seems that another possible reason why the STS gods declare, intervene in, and manipulate humans into war is not only to decide who will control Earth’s material resources (1D, 2D, and 3D souls and flesh), but also who will survive or remain standing after the conflict—that is, which God will inherit the Earth.
So these gods tell their humans how important they are, and what tasks they must perform (Commonly, to destroy the other) to continue enjoying divine favor and ensure their future supremacy. Which brings us to eschatology.
There are two figures who have recently been drawing attention for their geopolitical views related to eschatology. They are Alexander Dugin and Jiang Xueqin.
Dugin made the following statement regarding the current conflict in the Middle East
I think it is stupid to mock the prophecy, the end of the world, and Antichrist. The eschatology is real. But different camps insist on different readings. For sure Satan has its own interpretation of the events of end times and their meaning. Vía X
Yes, the prophecy of the End Times is real, and in fact, I think the Cs hinted at it during the session on January 24, 2026, when they said, "Pray without ceasing. The universe is very aware." And we connected that to 1 Thessalonians 5:12. It says there, "Do not quench the Spirit. Do not despise prophecies, but test everything..."
Digin points out that we are currently at the intersection of four eschatologies:
2.Christian Zionist/Dispensationalist/Rapture
3. Mahdi/Zuhur/fight with Dajjal
4. Russian Orthodox - the West/Israel as Antichrist
All poles of eschatological battle believe they are on the right side. Some are indeed. The others have chosen wrong side. The End itself will reveal who was correct and who wasn’t. But then it will be too late to change the camp. Dugin vía X
So we have four factions at war and four national gods in this current conflict, just as there once were Enki, Enlil, Marduk, and the others
1. Zionist National God: Jehovah/Baal/Satan
2. Christian Zionist National God: God/Jehovah/Jesus
3. Zoroastrianism National God: Hormuz/Allah
4. Russian Orthodox National God: Jesus
Dugin explains that, for the Zionists, the Messiah will not come unless they themselves succeed in building Greater Israel for Him. That is why Netanyahu speaks of “We will reach the Kingdom… We will reach the return of the Messiah.”
Dugin says that modern Judaism has two branches:
Dugin says that modern Judaism has two branches:
1. Truly traditional Jews. They await the coming of their Messiah.
2. Zionist accelerationism with a rush to artificially hasten the coming of the Messiah/Moshiach
Now, Dugin adds a fifth eschatology that has not yet emerged in the conflict or is hidden.
5th eschatology is the Storm of Equinox concept. The shift toward new era of the return of Old Ones. That is philosophically explored by OOO, Ctulhucene (Donna Haraway) and dark accelerationism. Trump as Big Destroyer fits well to early Nick Land predictions. Epstein also. Dugin vía X
By the “fifth eschatology,” Dugin refers to is a dark, chaotic, and anti-traditional force that does not fit into the four previously mentioned categories. It is the eschatology of pure chaos, the acceleration toward the end through the deliberate destruction of the current order.
This is the first time I've heard of this 5th eschatology. I asked Grok
This is the first time I've heard of this 5th eschatology. I asked Grok
Dugin describes it using these key elements (in his own posts from March 2026):
● “Storm of the Equinoxes”: a rite of passage (le rite de passage) that opens the gates to total chaos so that a new era may emerge.
●Return of the Old Ones: an ontological rupture in which primordial, pre-human, or “chthonic” forces return (inspired by Lovecraft, but philosophized).
●Chaos magick: Trump acts as a chaos magician in world politics. His decisions seem crazy or contradictory, but from this perspective, they are rituals of accelerated destruction.
● Thelema: the movement of Aleister Crowley (“Do what thou wilt”). Dugin links it directly: “The 5th eschatology (Thelema) can be involved in the strange and utterly mad phenomenon that is Donald Trump.”
●Dark accelerationism: the idea (by Nick Land and others) that capitalism, technology, and decadence must be accelerated until they collapse completely, so that something new (or nothing) may emerge. Trump fits into Land’s early predictions as the “Big Destroyer.”
●Other philosophical references: Object-Oriented Ontology (OOO), Donna Haraway’s Cthulhucene, and the “Eon of Horus” (Age of Horus)—but in its dark version, not the pink/New Age one.
It reminds me of the time the Cs told us about the return of Cthulhu. What if the oldest gods win this battle thanks to their prophet Trump—not Jesus, not Jehovah, not Allah, but Cthulhu or some other forgotten god? 
(Artemis) Is Cthulhu coming to smite people for their insolence?
A: Close
Q: (L) Close! Jesus... [laughter] Okay, questions?
Now, Professor Jiang Xueqin explains these and other eschatological concepts. For the professor, there is now an eschatological convergence:
Zoroastrian Eschatology
Zoroastrian Eschatology
This eschatology is very simple. In the world, there are truths and lies. The light and the darkness. And it is our responsibility as humans to live for the light and die for the truth against the lie. And at the end of days, there will be a final battle and a day of judgment.
So, light versus darkness, and then there will be a Day of Judgment. On that day, God and the Master will descend and create a paradise for everyone. So what matters is to live a noble life and await the Day of Judgment, when heaven on earth will eventually be realized.
And this is important because if you think about how the Iranians are fighting this war, the Iranians refuse to take the initiative and cause too much destruction. They refuse to be the villains in this war because, in their worldview, it is important to die for the light and fight for the truth.
Jewish Eschatology
In this eschatology, the idea is that the Jews disobeyed God. And in order to repair the world, to save themselves, and to bring heaven on earth, they need to engage in redemption.
And redemption is really about spiritual alchemy. Improving yourself as a person, being good to yourself, being good to others, loving your neighbor as you would love yourself. Okay, that’s a mainstream idea.
But, in its most extreme form, redemption simply means carrying out God’s plan to bring about the return of the Messiah. And this plan basically consists of creating Greater Israel, bringing back the Jewish diaspora, building the Temple, and this will trigger the War of Gog and Magog.
And then, when the Jews are most threatened, the Messiah will come to save them from their enemies. And this will usher in what is called the Messianic age—when God rules over the earth through his Messiah, who comes from the house of David.
Christian Zionism Eschatology
Jewish eschatology went on to influence the
Protestants. And this gave rise to a movement known as Christian Zionism. The technical term for Christian Zionism is premillennial dispensationalism. This may sound very complicated, but it isn’t. It simply means that God has a plan for bringing heaven to earth. And we have a duty to fulfill his plan by following his instructions.
So what Christian Zionism does is take this Jewish eschatology and make certain changes to it: the Jewish Messiah is the representative of God, but Christian Zionism claims that no, he is actually the representative of Satan. So the Messiah in Jewish tradition becomes the Antichrist in the Christian Zionist tradition. For Christians, the Messiah must be Jesus.
So the Antichrist, what he does is rule over the world. He is very charismatic and rules the world from Jerusalem, and he starts the War of Gog and Magog in order to conquer the world and destroy the Jews. At this point, Jesus will return to save God’s chosen people, the Jews. And when Jesus returns, there will be an event called the Rapture, in which all Christians will immediately ascend to heaven.
Freemason Eschatology or Pax Judeica
The Freemasons are also operating within the Christian Zionist framework, but they are much more focused on how to actually implement this. So what they want to do is take the Antichrist and turn it into a system. And this system is called Pax Judeica. What is Pax Judeica? It is when Israel controls the world through AI. An AI surveillance state that imposes the mark of the beast, which is a digital ID, and this digital ID will also lead to digital currency and a one-world government.
Islamic Eschatology.
The Islamic eschstology is a response to all these other eschatologies. They say that when the system is created it'll be called Dajjal the antichrist and when this happens then Jesus will return to defeat the antichrist. Iranians believe that the the twelve Imam which is Mahdi must return and lead his followers or believers into victory against the antichrist.
Catholic Eschatology
The mission of Catholicism is to reestablish the City of God, which was first lost through Rome and later through Protestantism. The City of God is rooted in spirituality and the Kingdom of God. So for the Catholic Church to fulfill its eschatological mission and reestablish the City of God, what it must do is destroy the Anglo-American Empire.
Christian Orthodox Eschatology or Third Rome
This is the prophecy of the Third Rome, which essentially states that Moscow will become the Third Rome. The First Rome was Rome, the Second Rome was Constantinople, now Istanbul (Turkey), and the Third and final Rome will be Moscow; there will be no Fourth Rome, history will end, and peace and prosperity will come to the world. Russia will unite the Orthodox world, which is currently divided into two branches: Eastern Orthodox and Greek Orthodox.
All these eschatological views converge on one point: the destruction of the established order and the question of who will be in charge of the new order. To this end, a great battle must be fought—Armageddon, Gog and Magog versus Israel—in which God will also intervene with cataclysmic natural phenomena: storms, earthquakes, fire, and brimstone.
Ravens as messengers of the Lord.
A flock of crows appears over Tel Aviv, and people are saying it’s an omen of death.
The video appeared on March 24 on X, went viral, and was shared thousands of times. Grok initially pointed out to users that it was an AI-generated video, then confirmed that it is true. Grok says it is common to see this in the skies over Tel Aviv in late March though not in such a large flock.
The video appeared on March 24 on X, went viral, and was shared thousands of times. Grok initially pointed out to users that it was an AI-generated video, then confirmed that it is true. Grok says it is common to see this in the skies over Tel Aviv in late March though not in such a large flock.
The video shared by @EthanLevins2 (which has gone viral today, March 25, 2026) shows a real scene: hundreds or thousands of crows (mainly hooded crows, Corvus cornix, a very common and invasive species in Israel) flying in large flocks and circling the skies over Tel Aviv, near buildings and the coastline.
This has been confirmed by multiple news sources and social media posts (Al Bawaba, Daily Mail, videos on YouTube/Instagram, and dozens of local accounts on X). The video is neither fake nor old; it was recorded today.
It’s quite common at this time of year (late March, spring) in Tel Aviv and throughout Israel, although the size of the flock seen in the viral video is impressive and may seem more dramatic given the current tensions.
The idea that they “smell death and fear” or that it is a “bad omen” is false. It is simply normal behavior for these intelligent and social birds, amplified by the current context of tensions in the region to generate clicks and fear.
So, why are people saying this is a bad omen?
The Bible frequently refers to birds as a symbol of God’s providence. Providence refers to a prearranged plan or measure taken to achieve a goal, remedy a problem, provide a solution, or prevent an event. In law, it is a judicial ruling that initiates or advances a legal proceeding. In general, it refers to a preparation or resolution.
The Bible recounts that God provided food for Elijah by sending ravens to feed him (1 Kings 17:2–6). God uses ravens as providers, so they must not be eaten, for it is an abomination. (Leviticus 11:13-15) but He also uses them to expose wickedness and mete out punishment, according to Proverbs 30:17: “The eye that mocks a father and scorns a mother’s teaching—let the ravens of the valley snatch it away, and let the eaglets devour it.”
In this context, God had already sent a warning to Israel. In this video from August 2023, a crow can be seen knocking an Israeli flag off its pole. This occurred before the events of October 7 that led to the genocide in Palestine.
In Revelation 19:17 describes an angel standing in the sun, inviting the birds to "God's great supper", a macabre feast to devour the bodies of God's enemies.
The Bible frequently refers to birds as a symbol of God’s providence. Providence refers to a prearranged plan or measure taken to achieve a goal, remedy a problem, provide a solution, or prevent an event. In law, it is a judicial ruling that initiates or advances a legal proceeding. In general, it refers to a preparation or resolution.
The Bible recounts that God provided food for Elijah by sending ravens to feed him (1 Kings 17:2–6). God uses ravens as providers, so they must not be eaten, for it is an abomination. (Leviticus 11:13-15) but He also uses them to expose wickedness and mete out punishment, according to Proverbs 30:17: “The eye that mocks a father and scorns a mother’s teaching—let the ravens of the valley snatch it away, and let the eaglets devour it.”
In this context, God had already sent a warning to Israel. In this video from August 2023, a crow can be seen knocking an Israeli flag off its pole. This occurred before the events of October 7 that led to the genocide in Palestine.
In Revelation 19:17 describes an angel standing in the sun, inviting the birds to "God's great supper", a macabre feast to devour the bodies of God's enemies.
“ “And I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds that fly in the midst of heaven: ‘Come, gather yourselves together for the great supper of God, that you may eat the flesh of kings and captains, and the flesh of the mighty, and the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all—free and slave, small and great.’”
The Dark Knight Strikes Again
Q: (Andromeda) What about all the coincidences with the Batman movie, with the Sandy Hook reference in the Batman movie? (Perceval) Is that something like that 9/11 mass consciousness signaling to itself?
A: Yes. The cosmic mind sends many clues, but who is listening? And you know what the result of not listening is!
Now that the White House has taken to playing around with pixelated images, it reminded me of a Batman comic— the situation feels like we’re caught up in an action movie somewhere between "The Sum of All Fears" and a silly Jim Carrey movie.
In Frank Miller’s comic book "The Dark Knight Strikes Again", published on December 5, 2001, the President of the United States is a computer-generated hologram—or what we now know as AI image.
Rick Rickard is the holographic or AI-generated president. Miller drew inspiration for the president’s name from Richie Rich, the character from the story of the world’s richest boy. (Obama described Trump as a “Richie Rich who complains, lies, and takes no responsibility for anything” in 2020)
Rick Rickard is a digital puppet who serves as a public figure to maintain the illusion of a normal democracy for the population.
In reality, the one controlling the government from the shadows is Lex Luthor (once the writer Elliot Maggin described Luthor as a non-observant Jew) with the help of the villain Brainiac, an AI whose main goal is to gather all the knowledge in the universe.
So, Luthor is the real power behind the throne and uses this hologram to give orders and maintain control of the country, which has become a dystopian police state.
The comic tells us that the global population is being lulled into complacency by the media, civil rights have been suspended, and superheroes have been captured, forced to serve the regime, or retired.
One day, the public is informed that the Planetary Defense System missed its target and an asteroid—which posed no danger whatsoever—is now on a collision course with Earth, which would cause a catastrophe. The U.S. president appears on TV to calm things down and say that the media is exaggerating the situation; the U.S. has powerful resources to deploy. At one point, his image becomes pixelated.
So, the public realizes the president isn’t real when his digital image on TV becomes distorted or pixelated, leading to situations where the administration has to “reformat the president” and silence the media.
An elderly Batman comes out of retirement to free the captured heroes and the U.S. Then Luthor launches a nuclear attack on Costa Rica, where Hawkman and Hawkwoman live, and he does so out of personal revenge. He destroys part of the country to kill these retired heroes and scare the Dark Knight.
Brainiac and Luthor maintain control over various heroes by aiming nuclear weapons at sensitive targets. For example, they have nuclear missiles aimed at Themyscira (Wonder Woman’s island) to force her to obey.
Luthor had also launched armed satellites (now called Space Based Wespons) into space capable of destroying most of the world’s population, leaving only a “manageable” number of survivors that he could easily control. This is his “final solution” for maintaining absolute power in an overpopulated and rebellious world.
Luthor and Brainiac also stage a fake alien attack in Metropolis (New York) to distract and manipulate Superman so that he can't help the Dark Knight
An aging, weary Batman who, with the help of old allies and new recruits, leads a full-scale rebellion against a dystopia controlled by Lex Luthor.
It seems as though history is a reflection of what the world is going through right now—a world of science fiction, as Clif High would say. It's crazy.
Mass consciousness signaling to itself?
Edit. This is also a "Tar Baby" kind of story, isn't it?
In Frank Miller’s comic book "The Dark Knight Strikes Again", published on December 5, 2001, the President of the United States is a computer-generated hologram—or what we now know as AI image.
Rick Rickard is the holographic or AI-generated president. Miller drew inspiration for the president’s name from Richie Rich, the character from the story of the world’s richest boy. (Obama described Trump as a “Richie Rich who complains, lies, and takes no responsibility for anything” in 2020)
Rick Rickard is a digital puppet who serves as a public figure to maintain the illusion of a normal democracy for the population.
In reality, the one controlling the government from the shadows is Lex Luthor (once the writer Elliot Maggin described Luthor as a non-observant Jew) with the help of the villain Brainiac, an AI whose main goal is to gather all the knowledge in the universe.
So, Luthor is the real power behind the throne and uses this hologram to give orders and maintain control of the country, which has become a dystopian police state.
The comic tells us that the global population is being lulled into complacency by the media, civil rights have been suspended, and superheroes have been captured, forced to serve the regime, or retired.
One day, the public is informed that the Planetary Defense System missed its target and an asteroid—which posed no danger whatsoever—is now on a collision course with Earth, which would cause a catastrophe. The U.S. president appears on TV to calm things down and say that the media is exaggerating the situation; the U.S. has powerful resources to deploy. At one point, his image becomes pixelated.
So, the public realizes the president isn’t real when his digital image on TV becomes distorted or pixelated, leading to situations where the administration has to “reformat the president” and silence the media.
An elderly Batman comes out of retirement to free the captured heroes and the U.S. Then Luthor launches a nuclear attack on Costa Rica, where Hawkman and Hawkwoman live, and he does so out of personal revenge. He destroys part of the country to kill these retired heroes and scare the Dark Knight.
Brainiac and Luthor maintain control over various heroes by aiming nuclear weapons at sensitive targets. For example, they have nuclear missiles aimed at Themyscira (Wonder Woman’s island) to force her to obey.
Luthor had also launched armed satellites (now called Space Based Wespons) into space capable of destroying most of the world’s population, leaving only a “manageable” number of survivors that he could easily control. This is his “final solution” for maintaining absolute power in an overpopulated and rebellious world.
Luthor and Brainiac also stage a fake alien attack in Metropolis (New York) to distract and manipulate Superman so that he can't help the Dark Knight
An aging, weary Batman who, with the help of old allies and new recruits, leads a full-scale rebellion against a dystopia controlled by Lex Luthor.
It seems as though history is a reflection of what the world is going through right now—a world of science fiction, as Clif High would say. It's crazy.
Mass consciousness signaling to itself?
Edit. This is also a "Tar Baby" kind of story, isn't it?
The Black Flags of Khorasan
“The Black Flags of Khorasan” (BFK) is a hadith tradition attributed to the Prophet Muhammad that constitutes a fundamental part of Islamic eschatology—the third of the five elements that make up Dugin’s theoretical framework (which, according to him, is currently unfolding)—or, as Jiang Xueqin put it, of eschatological convergence.
Dugin points out that we are currently at the intersection of four eschatologies:
1.Zionist Mashiah/3dTemple/Red Calf
2.Christian Zionist/Dispensationalist/Rapture
3. Mahdi/Zuhur/fight with Dajjal
4. Russian Orthodox - the West/Israel as Antichrist
So we have four factions at war and four national gods in this current conflict, just as there once were Enki, Enlil, Marduk, and the others
1. Zionist National God: Jehovah/Baal/Satan
2. Christian Zionist National God: God/Jehovah/Jesus
3. Zoroastrianism National God: Hormuz/Allah
4. Russian Orthodox National God: Jesus
The Prophecy of BFK mentions:
Black banners/flags will come out from Khorasan that nothing will be able to stop until they are planted in al-Quds (Jerusalem / Eela / Bayt al-Maqdis)
When you see the black banners coming from Khorasan, go towards them even if you have to crawl on the snow, for among them will be the Caliph of Allah, the Mahdi
An army with black banners will come from the East (Khorasan). No power will be able to stop them. They will reach Jerusalem and there they will plant their banners.
Khorasan is a historical region that encompasses northeastern Iran, Afghanistan, and parts of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, and Pakistan. In the current interpretation of many Muslims, this is understood as an invincible army that will emerge from the East to aid the Mahdi (the Islamic Messiah) in the final battle against the Dajjal (the Antichrist or the Israeli Moshiach of the house of David).
Just as Pete Hegseth interprets this conflict as a holy war or crusade, the military commanders in Iran (and the peoplebelieve that the support from Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen means that the Khorasan group has emerged (four flags, including that of Iran), which will soon raise the black flag in Jerusalem.
So the Khorasan group doesn't exactly come from the east; however, what's important is what the military commanders and the people believe. The political analyst Sergey Mikheev said correctly:
Just as Pete Hegseth interprets this conflict as a holy war or crusade, the military commanders in Iran (and the peoplebelieve that the support from Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen means that the Khorasan group has emerged (four flags, including that of Iran), which will soon raise the black flag in Jerusalem.
So the Khorasan group doesn't exactly come from the east; however, what's important is what the military commanders and the people believe. The political analyst Sergey Mikheev said correctly:
In high-level politics, ignoring the spiritual beliefs of those in power is a rookie mistake. Ideas ultimately drive actions, and material reality often follows the immaterial.
Even if you personally don’t believe in anything and mock others’ faith, you still have to take it seriously: when large numbers of people, especially those holding the levers of power, genuinely believe something, dismissing it means you’re being unprofessional as an analyst or strategist.
Their convictions shape motives, predictions, and decisions, regardless of whether you share them. If they believe it and control real resources, you ignore this dimension at your own peril.
Dugin thinks that the support of Iraq, Lebanon, and Yemen for Iran is literally the fulfillment of prophecy. He said:
The Prophecy is more important than human reasoning. All prophecies including the satanic ones will fulfill in one way or another. We are inside the age of the fulfillment of prophecies. The age of materialism is over. Dugin vía X
It is thanks to the belief that reasoning has no place in a holy war; what is important is to fulfill the destiny dictated by God through his prophets. Pete Hegseth for example, said:
The providence of our Almighty God is there protecting those troops, and we are committed to this mission
At a press conference at the Pentagon, Hegseth cited Psalm 144: "Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle" and has asked God for "broken teeth" and judgment against the "wicked," and that He would grant "clear and just objectives for violence" but also promised "Overwhelming violence against those who do not deserve mercy."
The Khorasan group is the equivalent of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in Christianity, by the way.
The Khorasan group is the equivalent of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse in Christianity, by the way.
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Here is a transcription I made of a program featuring the medium/writer Nora Parks on the French channel "Nurea TV," in which she talks about what she has been seeing coming in the future since she was a child. She has written series of investigative books as well as books about visions of humanity’s past, and she is the wife of the writer Anton Parks, about whom I had already made a post that didn’t get sooo many reactions, but who is quite well known in France (I still hope that one day the question of the source of Anton Parks’ material will be put to the C's 
.). I don’t know what you think about it, but I found it interesting, so I’m sharing it in this predictions thread. I’m also adding an AI-generated summary of the predictions from the transcription.
AI summary :
Chronology:
English transcription (AI translation) :
.). I don’t know what you think about it, but I found it interesting, so I’m sharing it in this predictions thread. I’m also adding an AI-generated summary of the predictions from the transcription.AI summary :
Omnipresent Technology: “Light” and “Companion”
- Technology called “Light” : It replaces the Internet and current energy sources (nuclear). It is an immaterial network, with no cables or physical screens, functioning both as an energy and propulsion source, and as a medium for immersive holograms.
- The “Companion” AI: Each individual has a digital double, a kind of artificial guardian angel that manages daily life. This companion is closer to the individual than their own mother, answers all questions, and dictates behaviors to follow. It may be linked to an implant or a hand operation using bone conduction.
Social Control and Governance
- The Alliance and the social score: Society is governed by “the Alliance,” a global or regional entity. The system is based on a permanent social credit determined by behavior, DNA, and especially emotional compliance.
- Abolition of privacy: Transparency is enforced. Emotions and brainwaves are monitored by sensors to verify the sincerity of citizens’ commitment. An individual fault can penalize the entire genealogical and social chain of that person.
- Algorithmic “Justice”: Judges are replaced by probabilities. People can be sentenced for a criminal act before it is even committed, based on predictive metrics.
- Dynastic elite and cloning: A privileged elite enjoys superior rights and unrestricted access to information. This caste uses physical and psychological cloning to ensure a form of immortality for its members.
Lifestyle and Environment
- End of ownership and mobility: Private property is abolished in favor of functional housing rented based on merit (“kombinis”). Individual cars disappear. Citizens are assigned to “green residences” or designated districts they cannot leave.
- Synthetic and space-based food: Traditional soil agriculture is banned following technological accidents and in order to “protect nature.” Food comes from orbital farming satellites or synthetic meat laboratories. “Real” food becomes a rare and sacred gift. The most downgraded individuals consume nutrient blocks made from condensed carbon (recycled pollution).
- Security through drones: Anti-gravity drones act as guards and jailers. They identify citizens by their DNA and can instantly eliminate anyone unregistered or whose DNA has mutated (due to illness), using sonic attacks or spontaneous combustion.
Culture, Leisure, and Spirituality
- The “Post-Book” era: Physical books are destroyed and written communication disappears. Knowledge is replaced by subjective, fractal entertainment that adapts to the individual’s interests, trapping them in a loop of satisfaction.
- Happiness on demand: The system ensures all basic needs are met to maintain social peace. Sports are mandatory and monitored, often combined with the ingestion of hormonal powders to sustain a state of exaltation.
- Vacations by injection and “meat bags”: Physical travel no longer exists. Vacation sensations are injected or experienced through neural stimulation. “Meat bags” are extreme virtual reality devices (often on the black market) that allow users to experience others’ memories or transgressive fantasies.
- Trance spirituality: Religions disappear, replaced by mandatory meditation and supervised out-of-body experiences (OBEs), often used to validate the established social order.
Health and Biology
- Normalized eugenics: Biological reproduction becomes marginal and suspect. Children are conceived in laboratories (industrial surrogacy) to guarantee the absence of “defects” and are raised by the “Companion” AI in collective environments.
- New pathologies: Synthetic, high-protein diets lead to an explosion of kidney diseases.
Hanael Parks emphasizes that this future is not inevitable. She presents these visions to encourage collective reflection and the use of free will in order to deviate from this dystopian trajectory. In particular, she advises preserving physical books and current computers to maintain independence of thought and calculation.
Chronology:
1. The Tipping Point (Immediate Future)
- Mass declassification: Official revelation of “Black Programs” (secret programs), UFOs, and classified technologies developed since the late 19th century.
- Energy revolution: Emergence of “Light” technology, a clean, free energy source (derived from the work of Grindell Matthews) that replaces nuclear power.
2. Technological and Societal Transition (15 to 30 years)
- End of personal computing: Abandonment of physical computers and search engines in favor of rented access to computing power via the “Light” network.
- Abolition of private property: End of real estate ownership; citizens are assigned to “kombinis” (functional rented housing) in designated sectors based on their behavior.
- “Post-Book” era: Destruction and removal of physical books and all written communication.
- End of individual mobility: Disappearance of cars, bicycles, and scooters; citizens are restricted to “green residences” that they cannot freely leave.
- Disappearance of cultural institutions: Permanent closure of schools, museums, and libraries.
3. Food and Health Disruption
- Ban on land-based agriculture: Following technological accidents and pollution, soil cultivation becomes prohibited.
- Space-based and synthetic food: Food is produced by orbital farming satellites or in synthetic meat laboratories (organoids).
- Global kidney crisis: Surge in kidney diseases linked to massive consumption of poorly managed synthetic proteins.
- Food for the downgraded: Consumption of nutrient blocks made from condensed carbon (recycled pollution).
4. The Control Society (Around 2050)
- The “Companion” AI: Each individual is linked from birth to a digital double (AI) that manages their life and interactions, becoming closer to them than their own parents.
- Implants and transduction: Widespread use of a hand operation (implants) enabling communication with the network via bone conduction.
- Social score and DNA: Implementation of a permanent social credit system based on DNA and the sincerity of emotions, monitored by invisible sensors.
- Predictive justice: Replacement of judges with probability-based algorithms capable of sentencing individuals before they act.
- Guardian drones: Constant surveillance by anti-gravity drones capable of instantly eliminating (via spontaneous combustion or sonic waves) anyone unregistered or whose DNA has mutated.
- Black market “meat bags”: Clandestine use of sensory pods to experience others’ memories or forbidden experiences.
- Controlled spirituality: Mandatory practice of meditation and monitored out-of-body experiences (OBEs).
5. The Elite and Eugenics (Final Stage)
- Dynastic cloning: A privileged elite uses physical and psychological cloning to ensure a form of immortality for its members.
- Industrial surrogacy: Biological reproduction becomes marginal, replaced by lab-conceived children free of genetic “defects.”
- City-state “The Alliance”: Concentration of the population into enclosed zones, separated from the outside world by impassable barriers.
English transcription (AI translation) :
Good evening everyone. Thank you for joining us tonight on Nurea TV with Hanael Parks. Today, she’s taking us with her to explore what could be our technological and societal future in the coming decades. Let’s discover all of this together on Nurea TV. Hi Hanaël. Thanks once again for being with us on Nurea TV. What a pleasure.
Good evening Guillaume. The pleasure is shared. Thank you to all the Nureans, male and female, who will be following us tonight in this program Journey Through Time.
A show that no one was expecting. Me included, when you started suggesting this topic to me, saying, “You know Guillaume, I’ve seen things.” So I knew that, well yes, you are an experienced intuitive… we can say medium, there are lots of terms. Personally, I like the term intuitive because it encompasses so many things—between the visions you’ve had and developed through your work and your activity as a medium… I like the term intuitive. I think it kind of brings all of that together. In any case, you are a seasoned intuitive. And you told me, “Guillaume, you know that I’ve had…”—stop me if I’m not using the right words—“I’ve had flashes, visions of things that are going to happen in the future, particularly—and that’s what we’re going to look at today—in terms of technology.” Meaning, what are we going to have? Will TVs be in 3D with scent jets and moving seats… although we already have that at the Futuroscope in Poitiers? Basically, you’re kind of like the Futuroscope of Poitiers but in a medium version, and today you’re going to present what you’ve seen of these technologies awaiting us in the next 10, 20, 30 years—that is, on a very, very short time scale, and something that we, our generation, will witness in our lifetime.
So thank you Guillaume for that very flattering and quite unexpected comparison. As for what I’d like to offer you today, we’re going to talk about artificial intelligence, future medicine, human relationships, and spirituality over the next 15 to 50 years. Indeed, these are elements that populate my mental landscape, things I received a long time ago. I’ll explain along the way what the child who saw them would have verbalized, what I, as an adult today—shaped by adult perspectives and vocabulary—think about them. But I’m going to allow you to share in these elements. Why? Because I remain convinced that nothing is determined—and that’s my experience as a consultant and medium, which I make available to everyone, that has allowed me to settle into this certainty. Nothing is predetermined, nothing is inevitable. And yet, this framework, which likely belongs to our fairly near future—you said it, between 15 and 50 years—there is something quite invariable, something that keeps coming back to me regularly, always, with the same constants. And it’s these constants, in terms of technology and societal evolution, that I want to share with you. Why? Because I believe that some of them, perhaps, we could avoid—or at least tame—so that they become something beautiful rather than something that enslaves.
You know what they say: a forewarned Nurean is worth two. So we might as well have this information and see how we’re going to respond to it. Before we discover all this technology you’re going to present today, a few questions so that everyone clearly understands where this information comes from. First, you were talking about childhood—are these visions something you’ve had since you were very young?
Yes, they are always the same. That’s what allows me to say that, apparently, we are dealing with a framework or a trajectory that is consolidating and moving from point A to point B. These aren’t things I sought out; they are pieces of information I received, whether I wanted to or not, like the rest—and they don’t make me happy. So you should know that I don’t—well, we’ll see this—I don’t have any judgment. You see, I don’t feel selected or different. I think there are many people who receive information like this. I even think it’s part of human nature, and that if we could overcome this ultimate taboo—which is for everyone, anyone at all, to say, “yes, I received this in a vision”—we could collectively use our shared brainpower to move things forward in a completely different way. That’s why tonight I want to share these elements with you. Not to say, “I know what’s going to happen, beware, let’s all tremble,” but rather, let’s think together—and maybe, how can we avoid certain scenarios?
These visions, these flashes—do you still have them regularly, about these future visions?
Yes. It’s constant, and that’s what allows me today to propose this show to you. If there had been variations or changes, I wouldn’t have done it. It almost never changes, and that’s why I feel the need to talk to you about it today. In fact, it was my husband who really pushed me to do it, because I didn’t think it could be… how to put it… interesting. Then I realized, by discussing it with you as well, that it might be.
About these visions, there’s a question we’re all going to ask: how do you place them on a timeline? In other words, a vision you had as a child, or one you had today, or this morning while drinking your coffee—I'm exaggerating a bit, maybe you’ll tell me it really happens like that—how do you situate it? How do you tell yourself that this will be in 5 years, roughly speaking, or that this is something that will happen in 50 years? Even if we’re dealing with relatively close time scales, it’s not the same if you’re announcing a technology in the next 5–10 years or in the next 50 years. How do you manage to deduce or feel the temporality of these visions?
That’s a really great question because, once again, it will allow me to talk about bias. For me, there are recurring people who appear in these environments, and above all, I see them aging. So that gives me a temporal marker, since everything else… You see, I observe—it’s funny—I would have loved to see a newspaper go by with a date. You know, that’s something I often do when we say we have a vision of something—we look for temporal markers. Especially for those who have done past-life analysis with me, you know that I give a range: are there firearms? What are the dominant religions? Are you in a port or do you see a port? That allows me to propose ranges… I insist, there isn’t a sign saying “You are here and it is this date.” That would be really convenient, and I would like that a lot.
You explained this to us in the last show: there’s nothing like a date or written indication that appears in these visions.
I would have loved that—it would have been so… really, it would have been an amazing source of information for me—but that’s not the case. And so, here we are: it’s the continuity of these people I see aging, you know, to put it that way, and I insist, it’s in a specific place. That means I don’t know everything, for all time, or in any case, the visions I have are not universal or absolute. It’s a time range, which we clearly indicated at the beginning, and it concerns a particular location. There may be other places, and we’ll talk about the border later. I don’t know what happens beyond the border. There are stories, of course, but as someone receiving the vision, I have a critical perspective; I don’t take what’s said in the vision about what happens beyond the border at face value, and it’s really important to make that distinction.
Alright. I used to say, to define a little the nature and activity of a medium, that if reality were a room, and the medium looked at that room through the keyhole, they would only describe to us what they could see through the keyhole, not the entirety of the room. So not the entirety of reality at a given time. Does that seem like a credible proposition to you?
That metaphor is brilliant. I didn’t know it. I find it extremely relevant because it connects—and sorry, I’ll repeat it again—to the idea that we only see things, even as… when we receive visions as intuitives… only as far as our own capacity allows. That’s why… I’ll try to introduce the nuance between what the little girl who saw it the first time would have told you, from what she understood, and what I, as an adult, believe I understand now. What it is as factual reality, everything I can report to you as “objective facts.” But then, there’s also my interpretative bias, and I insist, and the ultimate, my favorite, is our free will—both as individuals and collectively—to know that we are not obliged to experience this. If we all make a 360° change, I think we could escape it.
No determinism, no pessimism. Tonight, you’ll see, we’ll discover things that, for some, might send chills down your spine when considering what we are today as humanity. Nureans, you can share your reactions in the comments as we go along. One last question before we dive in a bit more: are there technologies, things like that, which you saw as a child or in previous years, that actually came to pass? And you said to yourself, “I saw this, this technology”? Yes, I knew… in any case, I had seen it before it arrived.
Yes. Well, it’s really a small detail, and it will make you laugh. Back in the 1990s/2000s, when home computers were starting to arrive, I was convinced that we could already talk to our computer, and that the computer, like a large language model (LLM), could respond to me. And so, I tried with all my might. I tried to find, either telepathy—you understand, I was a child—or by typing in Word, saying, “You can answer me, I know you can speak.” And, desperate, I couldn’t do it. However, what I did manage to do, and those of you who read the autobiography I co-wrote with Anton know, I don’t remember the chapter, but you should know that I participated, along with a panel of other trainers—likely tens of thousands of people—to make some large language models more human and courteous, to correct them when they didn’t express themselves properly, when they lacked empathy, in short, when their way of speaking didn’t match what it should be. So my intuition as a child led me, as a young adult—I think I was between 20 and 25 years old—to turn toward the innovation sector to offer my services. And I insist, I didn’t do anything grandiose, but I contributed, because I wanted to see this thing arrive and I wanted to be part of it. And so, when you address certain LLMs—I won’t give the brand—there’s a little bit of me, a tiny bit, embedded in their polite expressions.
Alright. And then one last point—I have several points because you’ll see, it’s a fascinating topic. Yes, there’s always the notion of feedback. When doing remote viewing, or when making predictions—because tonight we’re in a predictive program about future technologies—there’s always the question: when do we get feedback, a return, that allows us to validate the quality or viability of the information received? I want to say, I don’t know if YouTube will even exist in 20–30 years, when the technologies you’re going to talk about are supposed to appear. Keep copies of this show, and if you think about it, in 20–30 years, we might no longer be on air with Nurea; we might have moved on to something else, I don’t know. Maybe we’ll still be here. I hope some of you will revisit this video and say, “Ah yes, she told us about that, indeed, that’s already in place, and so on.” So feedback will be a little delayed compared to a prediction for next year. But again, we’re dealing with a time scale that our generation is expected to witness. So in the coming years and decades, you will be able to see whether the information shared today was viable and fits into the timeline we’re all going to joyfully take. We’ll see. We’ll discuss it a bit more.
Before that, Hanael, a quick update, because it’s important for those who want to reach you. So I’ll remind everyone: you are a medium, an independent researcher. We can find all your works. We’ve talked about them extensively on Nurea, in shows whose quality is beyond question. I really encourage you all to visit Anton and Hanael Parks’ website to find all their works. Support the publishing world, authors, independent researchers, especially when the quality is as high as with you two. I’ll remind everyone: medium as well, so you have this medium activity with consultations, etc. All the info is under the video for contact, including the email address if you want to reach out. The email will also allow you to contact Hanael and Anton for workshops, which are sessions. There are two types of workshops, which we’ve already discussed in previous interviews. Workshops: one specialized in esoteric keys, and there will be new sessions planned this year. So, same here, I’ll let you briefly explain again because we already touched on it. But for those who want to study mysteriology in general, if you want solid knowledge with plenty of perspective, that’s where you should go. Hanael, I’ll let you explain what these Esoteric Keys workshop sessions involve.
Thank you very much, Guillaume. It’s hard to do better than the summary you gave; indeed, the idea is to leave, after a weekend of 20 hours of courses, equipped with a foundation that’s sourced, archaeological, historical, and philosophical, which allows you to orient yourself on your own. I insist: we never do a sermon. These are small groups, between 8 and 12 people at most. Why? To encourage interactivity, so that you can ask questions, in your areas of expertise. I don’t know, for example, we’ve already had psychologists, astrologers, people with very specific requests regarding their professional direction—or even people just exploring casually, which is also possible. That is, you already have a solid literary or experimental background in mysteriology or spirituality, but you want to recalibrate, through what we offer, the structure of your entire experience. That’s what we’re here to provide.
I’d really like to one day hear feedback from Nureans who attend these workshops. I don’t have the time to travel everywhere with my Nurea activity, my other work—which I won’t go into detail about—but I would really like to hear about how the workshops go. What did they bring you? I’m sure it’s fascinating.
They bring lots of cookies, hot tea, and good moments combined.
Plus, it’s cozy!
Yes, yes, yes, that’s what I really wanted to share with you: feel free, if you want to get information and understand that we’re in small, human-sized groups. I insist, we don’t do a sermon; we’re not in a dark basement doing weird rituals. We’re here to think together, to start with solid foundations, and then, when you leave, to say, “That’s it, I’m equipped to make decisions, to see clearly, and to turn the life I want into a full reality, simply.”
With complete simplicity, complete serenity—what more could you ask for? There are these workshops on esoteric keys. There are also writing workshops that you and Anton have set up, because you also have that authorial background, books that have been acclaimed by a quite extraordinary number of readers. These writing workshops, you’re going to schedule again for next summer. Can you tell us a few words about those as well? What do they involve? Which audience are they for, and what will we be able to discover and learn there?
Thank you, Guillaume. So these workshops are both for people who have a firm, already defined writing project, or who want to refine it with us. Again, we alternate between instruction time, practical exercises, and private exchanges, convivial moments as well. This helps create a specific atmosphere, especially in the place that hosts us, which is a former Benedictine abbey—conducive to introspection, reflection, and again, a very cozy environment, because that’s what we love to share. These are spaces where you feel good inside, because I think when you feel good inside, it shows outside. It’s an old advertising jingle, forgive me, but it’s effective.
For which product did they say that?
Probiotic yogurts.
Ah yes, of course, it shows.
Exactly. So, a thousand apologies, for being your intellectual probiotics, and we hope to help you develop something lasting. Again, both workshops are designed so that you leave with enduring skills.
Great. If you want to get information, contact Anton and Hanael directly, the email is moderation.parks at outlook com. Don’t hesitate; it costs nothing to ask questions, to get more information, to get in touch, if you’re interested, of course. My dear Hanael, we’re going to dive now into predictions about future technologies. As usual, I’ll hand it over to you. And I think I’ll have twice as many questions as usual. So here we go: I’ll let you present the visions you’ve had and what awaits us in the coming years and decades, in terms of technology, society, and humanity more broadly.
Thank you so much, Guillaume. And yes, I’m waiting for your questions, which I think will overlap with those of all the Nureans watching. Understand that all the elements I’m going to present today have been part of my mental landscape since I was a child. I have no moral judgment on them. I just try to constantly monitor the environment to see, “Is this happening?” Do I have indicators that seem to converge toward it? And I have no anticipation; I don’t celebrate when it happens. It doesn’t please me. You know, on social media, I see an entire group of people who rejoice when things go badly in the world because they say, “I told you, I predicted it.” That’s not my approach at all. I think those who know me know that. So don’t take this show as the announcement of terrible things that I would be happy to see happen. That’s not my feeling at all, and even less my goal. I’ve been reflecting on these things for a long time, and were it not for my husband, I think I would never have seen the point in talking about them. So thanks to Anton Parks, and thank you, Guillaume, for being able to tell me that all these elements could have value.
How do I try to monitor to know if we’re still on track? I try to see all of this; it’s a process of causes and consequences. So what does that mean? For me, it’s obvious that in the immediate present, there’s a process of declassification, revelation, a societal turning point. Call it what you want. For me, there’s a clear marker pointing to this turning point, to the future I’m announcing: the revelation of all secret projects that have existed since 1800, 1850, or at least the end of the 19th century. We’ve discussed this a lot, especially in my two books, Black Program, UFOs & Underground Bases and UFOs and Extraterrestrials in the Service of the State. I think if you don’t know them, it may be time to watch the free-access shows on Nurea, and if it interests you further, to get the books, as you said, to support research that presents an alternative viewpoint to the consensually accepted dominant one, and that allows you to rely on facts again. I think those who don’t know me will understand from the start of this video. Here, we try to base everything on facts.
So I’m sorry, you’ve stumbled upon an intuitive video, but in my approach as an independent researcher, otherwise it’s “facts, facts,” and the interpretation I give them. We can debate my interpretation of the facts, but not their existence.
Facts are facts.
So there you go, once we reach this “nexus” point, this crossroads, which is the revelation of the existence of these secret programs, of these classified devices—which for me are on the verge of being declassified, clearly, according to the timeline I carry within me—and similarly for energy, notably the episode on Grindell Matthews (see it on Nurea TV). Those who haven’t seen it, I really invite you to take a curious look at it. Why? Because this famous energy that we will discuss throughout this show, particularly “Light,” I think that “Light” is simply a derivative of, if not purely and simply, the energy developed by Grindell Matthews. That’s why, when I started studying this subject, it really nourished my reflection regarding these “hypothetical” visions of the future—since I didn’t receive a fax from the future. I reassure you again, I don’t want to present them as absolute truth, but I want to tell you that I still have reasons to question the viability of what might occur.
So once again, this show proposes to look at what could happen after the revelation of these classified technologies, and how human society evolves, and how discourses will evolve following this technological and civilizational development. Often, those who speak and are considered visionaries—I would like to demystify this with you, it seems crucial… They are often people with a very large capital and a direct influence on our economic life. They are not thinkers of the world, they are not thinkers of the life of ideas; they are people with an interest in telling you “this is the future,” because that’s what they want to sell you economically, and there is no one to stop them because everyone is there—pardon me—but generally, when you have huge economic influence, everyone is there to “kiss the ring.”
So don’t trust it when you see someone announcing a technological shift. Ask yourself: who is this person, what is their interest, why are they telling me this? And aren’t they just trying to sell me something…? A very simple example I think I’ve already shared, unfortunately only on my social media like Facebook, is that today they sell you autonomous vacuum cleaners as if they were some extraordinarily new panacea. In the 1950s, there were already some—but in fact, it didn’t work. It was a flop; it scared people. They just weren’t ready, morally. A bit like pancake batter with dehydrated eggs. It was considered, forgive me, a lazy person’s thing. So it was withdrawn from the market because no one took pleasure in having made it. And yet, I think many of you know this famous idea of taking pleasure in building things yourself. That’s the principle on which the big…—I don’t like advertising, blue and yellow brand starting with an “i” and ending with an “a” [i.e., IKEA]…
Yes, the one that filled all our weekends, where there was always a missing little piece.
Exactly. And it’s on this principle that this mode of communication works. You build it yourself, you love it more. And in fact, that’s what happened with the pancake batter, and that’s what happened with the robot. The housewife no longer took pride in maintaining her beautiful home because her automated robot was doing it. So it came back into fashion today because we found a way to rebrand it.
So again, when a technological evolution is presented to you, it is very possible that it is actually just “new wine in old bottles.” So be careful with what you hear and see, especially right now, regarding LLMs. For those interested, I refer again to UFO and Black. It may seem strange, but yes—in a book that discusses the pragmatic search for the origin of declassified devices, I was led to question the origin of what is presented to us today as AI and supposedly very modern innovation. It is possible that it is slightly older than what they try to present to us, which explains the social evolutions I will show you here.
Why is it complicated today to think about the future? We understand: a monopoly of speech held by people who have an economic interest in dictating a mode of thought to us. And on the other hand, there is information that is so abundant but in every direction—and I don’t need to tell anyone, you know this—it’s at your fingertips and your scroll. But just because we have lots of information doesn’t mean our reasoning is of high quality. You need mental space, moments of silence, moments of calm, moments of introspection, and, let’s say it, emotional and mental health that allows us to produce quality reasoning.
Today, regarding the future I’m talking about, no one has the physical, mental, or emotional state to carry out reasoning and introspection. I’m not saying, “beware, brain rot really kills.” I want to come back to that famous… because it is…
What do you mean by Brain Rot?
Ah yes, I’ll define it. Thank you so much. These are the quick, easy, and stupid contents, to put it plainly [and to be transparent].
We’re right in the middle of it.
Actually, it’s not new. I remember, I dug up— and I don’t want to name anyone, but I’ll just talk to you about a social phenomenon, because really, I have creators I love and I wouldn’t want them to feel targeted. What we used to call “YouTube Poop.” Now, those who’ve been on YouTube for 15 or 20 years know exactly what I mean. These are productions made by editors—but when I say editors, I mean in the utterly crazy cinematographic sense. Sometimes even people who were, how to say, freelancers, working independently on this. I loved doing that. It’s an awful confession, but yes, I love making hysterical edits, à la Mr. Jean-Marie Poiré, making things sharp and cutting-edge.
And actually, we were making content that was exactly brain rot, except it lasted 10 minutes, a quarter of an hour, sometimes even an hour. I saw incredible stuff. We called them “YouTube Poop Tennis,” and when you look back at it, you realize the amount of time I spent doing nonsense… But no one condemned us. At the time, nobody said, “Well, that’s serious, they’re going to become completely stupid.” Today, I agree, attention spans are declining, IQs are declining, but I assure you—and I’m sorry—if we put all of this on “brain rot,” it’s a diversion.
You also have to reconsider the fact that everyone’s mental and emotional health is very low because, in terms of information, we’re saturated with messages that make us believe we cannot escape an even more dreadful future than the one I’m going to tell you about. We’re in this idea of determinism: we can’t escape, everyone will suffer, you will die of hunger or horrible diseases. We can’t be well! So putting everything on “brain rot” is a diversion. And it’s the same with economic perspectives… Today they tell us—pardon, a little diversion about daily life—but young people can’t find jobs. Well, maybe because there isn’t any supply, actually. If we formalize it like that, maybe it’s more relevant? Are there offers or not?
I’m not saying I have the answer, I’m saying this is how we verbalize a problem and how it determines the way we perceive it. So your ability to reason—whether you agree with me or not regarding social facts—is not the problem. But preserve it; it’s your most precious asset because you pass it on to your children, to your loved ones, because it’s emotional contagion. In short, it’s a treasure. For me, the most precious thing is being able to follow reasoning, develop it, and review it even further.
You’re highlighting something with this information overload and mental overload. I think many of us today are experiencing it, not necessarily being able to put words on it, but the change in technology, what technology has brought in terms of communication today with AI, with the internet, etc., and the new formats offered—shorter and shorter, increasingly stimulating for part of our brain, but needing constant repetition, like a drug, you know, always needing more because we get bored quickly, we can’t focus, and we feel, excuse my expression, totally brain-drained. Even when we step back from these practices, it feels like the mental noise can’t be turned off and we’re no longer able, psychologically, to detach a little from the situation to calmly analyze it or gain perspective. We’re constantly in the washing machine of this information bombardment.
Well, I have a great… actually, I suggest you take away this key, which is part of the things I can transmit in the esoteric keys side. You ask yourself, when you’re scrolling or watching a show, whatever you’re doing, but you feel emotionally off, it’s too much, ask yourself: what was this about three minutes ago, or three slides ago, if you’re on short content? If you don’t know what you were doing three minutes ago, what content you saw, what the three slides were about—pardon me, but literally what the “Reel” was about—then it’s time to stop. Put the phone down, knit, read a book, do whatever you want, go for a walk around the neighborhood, walk the dog, do a puzzle, whatever. There’s always a solution, a diversion.
If after those three minutes or three pieces of content, your mind is empty because you don’t even know why you’re there, you’re in a hypnotic state, a trance, and in a state of mental suggestion—no matter whether you believe what I just said or not—I assure you that in other circumstances, like in a class, they would tell you the same thing. You’re gone, your prefrontal cortex is asleep. So it’s time to reactivate the vagus nerve and return together to the present moment.
Well, thank you for this advice. We’re all going to try this, I think, and we’ll all be surprised.
But really! And that’s the beauty of it: having objective data that allows us to say, “I put a word,” as you said earlier, on this malaise, this unease, and this sense of informational saturation. And back to our dear screens. Guillaume, thank you for this absolutely fantastic transition. Have you ever felt the urge to scream or curse at your TV? And dear Nuréen, Nuréene, you are invited to comment on your experience as well.
Well, no. Yet I’ve experienced it. You know, we come from Saint-Étienne. Saint-Étienne = football. I grew up in a family where we are all supporters of Les Verts. I remember, as a child, my father shouting at the screen during football matches, at the referee or whatever. Well, shouting… all things considered, of course. But I’ve always been very calm and stoic, very passive in front of that screen.
So you didn’t really have any emotional response, and it’s true that you also didn’t establish any emotional relationship, any emotional exchange with the inert object that we all, as adults, understand to be the television. But still—and I insist—this isn’t something everyone experiences. There are many people who feel engaged with a guest on a TV set, who will shout, say “Oh no, what an idiot, get him off!”—you know what I mean—especially with things like referees.
And in fact, in the future, as I see it—so it’s not a television, we’ll see together exactly what it is—but yes, we’re all getting ready to shout, not in hatred or anger, but in joy and good spirits, at these famous interactive screens. So indeed, all the technology I’m going to talk about, and the entire social order we’re going to discuss in this prediction show, revolves around happiness. I want to make that clear: you’re in it, and you’re happy.
So know that if there were a large system of domination being put in place around us, it wouldn’t tell you, “you’re going to suffer and it’s going to be awful,” but rather, “you’re going to be so happy!” And on a daily basis, the effect this will have on people who actively participate in this system and this technology will be happiness—happiness equivalent to a trance. That’s why I was talking about altered states of consciousness that can occur when you’re in front of a screen. Ask yourself whether you might already be experiencing it.
So I wanted to introduce this first technology. I insist, this is the name I’ve given it as an adult: the idea of having to “focus.” It really means concentrating, but it’s not just concentration—it’s exaltation. People experience…—here, I had to present it to you in the form of a screen, but you’ll see in the second representation that it’s more ethereal—it’s not a physical material screen like the flat TVs we have today. It’s something else, like a hologram you’re immersed in.
And inside it, you absolutely have to interact, live, and demonstrate emotions because, first of all, that’s what unlocks the program. My translation would be: if you don’t say you’re happy, if you don’t say “Yay, pizza, whatever,” then your program won’t start. There’s already a kind of lock on that side that resembles advertising, but I insist, it’s more about—pardon me—not only exaltation linked to concentration, but maybe also a kind of subjective experience that reminds me of prayer. That is to say, if you don’t have the emotional engagement that goes with it—if you just say “Yeah, yay!”—then nothing will happen. It’s not just a voice detector; they want engagement.
We won’t be able to skip ads anymore, you know, the good old method. The movie is about to start, or we’re in the middle of it, there’s an ad, we know it’s going to last five minutes, so it’s time to grab a drink from the fridge or some cookies or go to the bathroom and come back afterward—that won’t work anymore.
Well, you can, of course, because everything is completely—and we’ll see this—calibrated, individualized, since it’s actually your movie. You can all be in the same room but not be watching the same film as the person next to you. It’s completely personalized—ultra-personalized. But indeed, if you don’t engage emotionally… that’s my suspicion.
I don’t see the sensors. To me, they are clearly extracorporeal, extremely precise. So that means your brainwaves, your body temperature, all those things that are signatures of genuine emotional engagement, can be measured—and that would make it possible to say: yes, this person is feeling pleasure while saying “Yay pizza whatever.” I know it sounds very strange, but I assure you, technologically speaking—at least from what I know as an adult—it’s not that far away.
Why? Because Wi-Fi waves—I don’t know if you know this—can, roughly speaking, “see through walls.” They create a kind of penetration effect; these waves can go very far. So if we were to… we can already measure heart rate with infrared. So sensors responding to this kind of data already exist. I think we’re really not far off technologically. And as a child, I would have said: “It’s the TV talking to me, and I talk to the TV, and we understand each other.” And that’s really what it is.
And in fact, we’ll see later, the technology I identified and that I call “companion”—that goes even further beyond this level of personalization. But in terms of sensors, it seems to me we’re really close. And why is that important? Because this pillar of celebration through entertainment is about compliance and adherence. That way, you can be sure that the person ideologically adheres to something and isn’t just pretending.
And that’s a long-standing dream—we talked about it, I think, in the book Black—with that famous machine in Vietnam that simulated a false “compliance test” for Viet Cong who entered as informants into the American army. Were they sincere? And I think, very sincerely, that’s also how it will manifest in the future: a permanent sincerity test—absolutely permanent—and one you cannot cheat. That’s the worst part.
Alright. So this system, this technology, will erase the boundary between us and the information and technology that transmits it to us. That means what you were saying—remaining stoic in front of a screen and keeping distance from what’s happening before our eyes—will no longer be possible.
Not possible at all. And when you talk about distance, that allows me to mention that I see people dancing, being extremely happy. Like—you’ll forgive the reference—but we have to name Just Dance. I think you know this family activity that maybe livens up your wildest evenings. Well, it’s that—but constantly. Except you don’t have a choice. Now you will dance, you will sing, you…
And I don’t know if you’re familiar with it, but there’s a fable by La Fontaine about this: “You were singing? Well, now dance.” I believe it’s also something attributed to Louis XIV. It’s terrible, but I think in terms of indoctrination and mental conditioning, you can make people accept anything if you make them dance, sing, and have fun 24/7. There’s no problem. Once you reach that level of degradation—sorry, maybe that’s a bit strong—of intimacy… If I watch TV, I’m fine with watching TV, but I don’t want the TV to watch me. That deeply bothers me.
We agree. You can see it in this image here, this screen that looks almost like a hologram, with this whale—this whale right in the middle of the screen. You saw that too, right? In terms of just the basic material, we no longer have screens, big flat screens like we have today, which were already a technological advance compared to what we had as teenagers. We are entering a kind of screen that is no longer material; we’re in a hologram or something like that?
Yes, it’s light technology. We’ll talk about it a little further on, and thank you for letting me clarify my thought, because in fact it’s all around you—it’s subjective, so no one else in the room sees it. It’s not a physical thing; it doesn’t rely on a screen. I don’t know exactly what it is. I just know that everyone calls it “light.” It’s “light.” And “light” is both a network. “Light” is also a source of energy. “Light” is a source of manifestation. Well, I don’t have other words, forgive me, but as a little girl I would have told you: there are manifestations, except that each person experiences their own manifestation. And I must confess that’s a little terrifying, because imagine—well, pardon me, you might think Hanael is paranoid, but imagine this, in a weapons context: you want to trap me in… I had a relative playing VR Resident Evil, you know, a really horrible thing, and even he, who loved horror games, ended up terrified, really in tachycardia on the floor. And I asked him, why are you imposing this on yourself? Imagine that, if we could experience things like that. I wouldn’t want to, but at least you wouldn’t be forced to experience it.
And then we approach the abolition of collective experience, which also allows exchange and interaction among us, and therefore the ability to take distance from the experience we just had. There, we will all be trapped in our experiences with this technology and this “light.” When you call it “Light,” is that the overall name of this technology?
I think it’s a substitute both for the Internet and for energy supply. “Light” meets all these criteria: it’s both an information network and a source of basic energy that would replace, specifically, nuclear energy—pardon me—but also a support technology, like holograms and other elements we’ll see together, which, for me, is truly terrifying. Because, as you’ve understood from my analyses, I often project the archetype of the Wizard of Oz: beneath a smooth appearance—somewhat like our smartphones, which look like… well, you know… big black obsidian mirrors—hides extremely complex engineering. And “light” could perfectly fit that model: very complex. We’ll see that precisely in the management of the “overseers”… we’ll call them that for now, to avoid spoilers. It’s more complex than it seems. What is displayed, and what I’ve collected as information, differs from the social reality experienced and what happens backstage, so to speak.
Alright.
So this famous control through emotions—I’d like to invite you. We’re going to do a cine-club, because, as you’ve understood, the idea of a cine-club doesn’t exist anymore and is totally “canceled,” since everyone lives their own subjective cinematic experience, following only their own interest. For younger viewers, if you want to share a good moment and reflect on this, watch Wall-E. Not for the story of the robot, but for what happens on the spaceship where humanity wanders. Then there’s the book. I would have preferred you read The Giver to your child—if it’s a teenager, suggest The Giver, which is really extraordinary. There’s Equilibrium for older audiences, and of course Gattaca, depending on each person’s sensitivity.
I think it’s important today, as a society, to question what we want to put into this technology, because otherwise, I assure you, in terms of transaction, we’ll have to give everything. Sure, they will give us the illusion of giving us everything, but in reality, we are the only living beings in this transaction, so we will actually give everything. So be careful about what we want to put into these technological evolutions. I repeat: these are sensors that come from outside the body, so you cannot escape. You cannot say, “I stop, I go out.” “Light” is everywhere. And these sensors, which I represent as a device, I don’t see them. If I could objectify them, I think it would be so much easier. We could say together, “Well, this technological evolution that looks like, I don’t know, Alexa, or whatever, we’ll have to say no to it.” No, it’s subtler than that. I don’t see it—“light.” It’s like a Wi-Fi or infrared network that we cannot see with our eyes. I know it exists, but I also know I can’t see it, which is very disturbing.
So what does that require from you? Well, to engage with the information and these events, you have to applaud, concentrate, and repeat. So it’s a network that is completely free and above all “post-internet.” There is no more Internet as you know it, and especially no more search engines. You’ll see, we’ll talk about it further: total abolition of search engines.
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Part 2/3
You used a term that is already trendy today, when we do shows on YouTube—we know these terms—it’s called engagement. That is, as a user, YouTube as a platform encourages and promotes engagement. So here, we are in the same line, but to the extreme, of that call for engagement from the consumer.
It’s total adherence, and that’s really the funny part—it goes beyond being a consumer, because, as we’ll see, the world of work no longer exists—or doesn’t exist as we know it… So it’s really… you are simultaneously the true “consumactor” that they try to sell you today. That is, they tell you that because you buy from this store or that, it’s like a vote you’re casting. Here, it’s really that because you do this, you belong to the system, and in quotes, the system also belongs to you, because it’s your power to say, “I like this program, I like that thing,” but there’s no creator—you are just responding to something created specifically for you. They just check your level of emotional adherence, to verify that you are still in agreement with this sort of personalized sequestration. But I assure you, I repeat, based on what we said at the beginning, it’s experienced joyfully. The examples I’ve shown you—apart from Wall-E—aren’t joyful. The Giver, Equilibrium, Gattaca—everyone looks a bit glum in this prison world. I imagine something more like Wall-E, with people… well, not morbidly obese like Disney presents them; it’s something else. We’ll see it a little further on. But they’re absorbed in their thing, and there’s never a moment where a question strikes their mind, because they know that if they start questioning, they’ll be thrown out… and we’ll talk about that a little later.
Will this transition happen with big, blissful smiles?
Oh yes, in joy and good humor, because… and anyway, that’s what we experience right now: when we’ve been mistreated too much, we’re ready to trade that institutional, social, and psychological mistreatment for absolutely any form of security. And I’m not saying that’s bad or anything; I’m just telling you what I’ve seen. I insist—I’m not here to demonize it. Maybe it will bring solutions to everyone. It’s not a judgment, but I think you hear behind my words that it doesn’t really excite me. That’s all I want to say.
For the free thinkers we claim to be, perhaps wrongly, yes, this is not what we expect from the future.
It wasn’t the dream I was sold, and it’s not “the thing” I would have liked to see if I’d been asked, “What do you want to see?” It’s clearly not that. And this is also very important, because there’s a detail about “light” and this idea of gaining access to the system: there is no personal computer. That’s why I’m telling you—I don’t see the sensors, I don’t see the cables, or… I don’t know how to put it… It’s computing power or network access that you rent. You can rent it by the minute for a search, by the week, by the month, and then there are people—this is even stronger—they own it. They have, in fact, some kind of chip or something that gives them total access. It’s a privilege. We’ll talk a lot about privilege. They have a lifelong privilege of absolutely unrestricted access to the system.
So forgive me, the child I was… When we encountered it—how can I put this without making a huge mistake? You’ve all seen peer-to-peer sharing sites. We won’t name brands—just sharing sites. And in fact, we all had more or less fluctuating download speeds depending on our internet connection. Well, it’s exactly that. And when I saw these systems being democratized—I was 12 or 13 years old—I thought, “That’s it, this is it,” this negotiated computing power. No, it’s something else, because I didn’t see all these innovations arrive together, and I’d rather tell you: from the moment… well, it’s strange… but… don’t throw away your computers, please. Keep them, whether for materials, in a corner, or because it’s fun to have an old computer of your own. Keep your physical, material computers, please, because once they sell you this idea of “you have to give them back to recycle them, because it’s not good, and you’ll have access to ‘light’ or something equivalent that will come just before,” ask yourself: “Why do they want to take my computing power?” Exactly as they relocate the ability to think through these leisure activities, here they relocate the ability to perform purely computational tasks. But I insist—it’s extremely important, and it also determines the quality and detail of the information you receive. Because if your quota is “you have 5 minutes of high-speed search,” then you’re really going to focus on practical, specific things that interest you: what time the café opens, whether there’s a party tomorrow, that kind of thing—not on “what is the meaning of life” or philosophical questions. You will focus on practical matters.
Yes. And knowing that for the big philosophical questions, I’ll never say it enough: in my opinion, we have all the answers within us. You just need to dig deep and take the time to get to know yourself.
The reflection you made on keeping your computers—I had a click, I remembered Hanael from previous broadcasts, telling us “Keep your books, keep your books carefully,” and now we arrive at keeping your computers. That is: the information contained in books should be kept because it’s free and open access, but also the computing power of our computers as technology—we won’t automatically have access if we don’t have these machines with us.
And you won’t be able to develop anything. That’s also what it implies—developing for developers, I mean, if you like coding or things like that, it means you’ll be totally deprived of this level of interaction with “light.” It’s a security principle, I understand. There are even arrests happening via this mobile system through denunciation. Someone has RAM sticks or something at home. They come to check. Some kind of police arrives—I don’t know what it is. Is it a big magnet? Some device? They neutralize it, seize the electronics, and anyway, you don’t see the person again. But that’s another story; we’ll talk about it later. Know that it’s an extremely valuable asset. I’m not telling you to keep all your electronic trash, but if you have devices that you know are stable and durable, clean them well, store them in a corner, and say, “You never know, maybe it could be useful.”
Noted.
And it’s the same with possessions—there’s not much, you see. Or rather, the term… forgive me, it’s borrowed from the modern world. I think those of you who have traveled in Asian countries know what a konbini is and all those kinds of… it’s not hotels or shops, but places you rent that aren’t yours, yet do everything to simulate the warm presence of a home. Well, that’s it. There’s no personal ownership. In fact, you’re assigned to a dwelling and to a sector based on your privileges, your behavior, and your level of adherence. You’ve understood that well. And I insist—this doesn’t concern all of humanity, only the elements I have been able to observe. Right, we’ll come back to this bias, and it’s very important to say it again. It’s not the whole planet in this state. It’s in the place where I am, through which I can see. It’s extremely anxiety-inducing. Why? Because everyone is very content. I insist once more—there are excellent infrastructures, pleasant to live in, simple and on modest surfaces, but pleasant and functional. So people are satisfied. My husband and I experienced the consequences of bad housing and slum landlords firsthand. And I can tell you, it’s true that, back when I was looking for a place to live, I might have given in—if someone had told me, “This is it in exchange for all of that,” I might have said yes.
And so I understand that people who accept this solution in that future—I don’t want to condemn them and say, “Oh, they’re idiots or evil.” No, I understand why people would choose this solution. But then there’s no ownership, there’s nothing. And if you fall out of emotional engagement and no longer meet all the criteria expected of you, then you have nothing. And having nothing in this context is very serious, because you’re not allowed to be a wanderer—you’re not allowed to be homeless. It’s really… it’s not even a question, it’s not an option at all.
This is where we enter a true dystopia. Again, we’re talking about things you’ve seen for the next 50-odd years. So it’s very close.
Yes.
And you tell us that this notion of ownership, having a home, is not a value judgment. Some will be against ownership, others in favor. That’s not the philosophical, ethical, or political question. But concretely, is this destined to disappear in the short term?
In the place where I see, yes—it’s completely abolished, and that is truly shocking. Except for those with dynastic privilege—we’ll talk about this a little later—who have the right to remain in the same place. And they are never told that they own it. They’re simply told, “This is your privilege,” and we’ll come to explain what that is. It’s a derivative form of ownership, you understand, but presented as something else. And precisely, we must always be vigilant about what is presented in a certain way, but which, from a legal or factual perspective, means something else or manifests differently. It’s extremely important to remain vigilant at all times.
I return to the “post-book era,” since we mentioned it earlier. Indeed, it’s the “post-book era.” Books have been destroyed, books have been eliminated, and in fact, we’ll get to the argument—you’ve already heard it 20 years ago and it will continue—it’s… “Dematerialize so it costs fewer trees and fewer raw materials.” But have you seen what we use to keep all the dematerialized servers running? Are you aware of the energy we put into that? It has nothing to do with a book, which you kill once and turn into paper pulp. So I really insist: keep your books, even the ones you consider the worst, cheesy, romantic ones—you keep everything—because in that place I see at that time, there are no books, no books at all, and no written record either. And that’s what fascinated and stunned me the most. There’s nothing written. Nothing. And it’s not just that I can’t see it with my senses. I’ve explained the nuance of the paraverbal, which means that normally I don’t catch numbers and letters in my visions. Here, it’s really because there’s no written record. The notion of written communication has been abolished. Which… for me, is nightmarish. Excuse me, because reading allows you to internalize, to step back if you want, in short, to reflect. Here, that’s no longer the case at all.
No reading, therefore no writing, therefore no learning to read or write—ultimately, what are we creating? Generations of fools?
I don’t know. You can call it whatever you want. And this worries me, because I insist—this is a fundamental tool of civilization, for thinking about oneself, for thinking about the world, and for orienting oneself. So this ability, I insist again—you might disagree with me and say, “No, it’s great, this way everyone agrees, everyone is calm and happy, in bliss.” That’s what these people are living. They are in bliss, and questioning seems obscene to them. You want to question the thing that feeds us, gives us drink, makes us happy, and entertains us? No no, “you’re a monster.” And that’s how they would react to even the slightest criticism… these people.
It’s also multidisciplinary, you should know. So these famous entertainments of the post-book era—you experience everything at once, emotionally, intellectually—you feel educated. You feel like you understand everything and have access to everything, everywhere, at all times. It’s an illusion, which is really harmful, and which, I think, we’re already beginning to perceive in current usage—excuse me, I’ll come back to it—with LLMs, which give us the impression of absolute availability. I don’t deny, once again, the social progress this can represent, but I’ve already shown you, particularly in Geneviève Vanquelef’s program and many other examples, that they can lie, they can be wrong, that there are biases that are not perfect. We must not entrust these imperfect things with configuring our thought—it’s not possible.
There’s no language either—I’ll come back to that. I was very impressed. I have the impression that everyone speaks the same language, or that there’s a sharing community. So there is translation, what one could call instantaneous. There are no language barriers. That was very disturbing for me too, as if everyone understood each other and everything was fine. Clearly, I didn’t grasp what it was. They don’t speak French, but it seems fluid, and they are happy. Once again, it’s a language in which one understands perfectly, and every entertainment you access through “light” matches your interests. What does that mean? It’s total cognitive confinement. It means there is no perspective of evolution. And that, I don’t know… It’s a challenge.
Some saw, in my “chronicles,” notably Anna—so I transcribe the visions I received—same as when I was a child—I hadn’t asked anyone, it just happened to me—very few people gave feedback, but I think quite a few understood it: she is programmed not to vary. First, a consciousness, a soul, call it what you will, was reintroduced into her, and second, she was conditioned with “Kuram,” like many beings of her race, not to vary, because they are supposedly immortal beings who cannot revise themselves, and therefore cannot evolve—neither intellectually nor emotionally, nothing. This is exactly the same thing, but from a technological point of view, imposed by an external constraint. That is to say… what do you want to evolve in, your thought or your life? If we adjust only to what you like, and to what provokes desire and satisfaction. I mean, sorry, but it caps you.
We arrive at a sort of personal intellectual inbreeding. I don’t know if the term is clear enough, but this is already what the algorithm provokes today, which means that on social networks, the algorithm knows our tastes, and therefore only suggests things that go in the direction of what we like, in line with what we approve of in terms of ideas, etc. So we isolate ourselves, we are no longer confronted with otherness, we are always in a tête-à-tête with ourselves, and therefore reassured in our intellectual omnipotence.
And the illusion of depth—and that’s what shocked me as a little girl—is, for example, I don’t know, imagine being in the middle of a Tolkien recreation, the major work The Lord of the Rings, and you decide to change the story—you decide that you are the hero, OK, you are the hero. Then you ask for the backstory of your father, your mother, etc., and you always have…—it’s like a fractal, and this is the famous illusion of depth I will show you—it branches and never stops. And you want to know, okay, what happened to your paternal grandfather? Well, you’ll know, etc. It gradually disperses your interest and attention. And that’s what shocked me as a child—you probably know the movie The NeverEnding Story. Well here, this is really the never-ending story. It will never stop because as long as your interest and desire to confront information in a particular way exist, you will continue. And above all, I insist, since it is coherent—in any case, here, the information seems to be coherent structures—even if we are in fiction, it gives the impression of receiving knowledge. And these people are never ready to think, “No, this is an artificial creation.” They felt it, they lived it, they engaged in it. I told you… they moved. It is “true for them,” it’s true. It’s a subjective experience.
It tastes like knowledge, it smells like knowledge, it looks like knowledge—but it isn’t.
Exactly. So always ask yourself the question, and I think that in the present time, we already have avatars or precursors of this social phenomenon. Is it knowledge, or is it entertainment? I am not the one to decide. I just want to help us think together about the question.
So, back to e-books. Supposedly, it was to protect forests. Instead of forests, what did we put? Huge factories that consume water, consume electricity. So is this really what we want? I think you know the answer, and I do too.
So, to return to examples that may help you, if you don’t already know them, to develop your thinking around submission through entertainment, you have this marvel, Idiocracy—who doesn’t know it?—but it’s worth rewatching, dusting off. And contrary to what one might think, it’s not a family movie for children. There are very risqué elements. So be careful if you have a young audience. There’s something more dramatic, but with the merit of concreteness and realism: Don’t Look Up, the Cosmic Denial. And finally, my all-time favorite, Zardoz. And yes, you can see a very famous actor—I won’t name him—in a red loincloth. It gave all kinds of grandiose adventures, but I assure you, ignore the “so-bad-it’s-good aesthetic” side that really aged poorly—it was already weird back then. Focus on the meaning of the film and you won’t be disappointed, I promise. And notably—I spoil a tiny bit, with Anton’s agreement—it also recalls events between the Gina’abul and the arrival—or at least humans, humanity. Clear. These are reflections that are interesting to see.
So even if you are just a fan of the “Girku chronicles” and hear this program, I really recommend watching Zardoz. Clearly, you understand that in this world, in these visions I have, we used to remember together—you and I. And now people synchronize. People now live leisure experiences that have nothing to do with shared cultural data, which form a common foundation allowing us to live together with cultural references. No, here it is really entertainment and an escape from material reality. This is concretized, notably, by “vacations by injection.” I know that will sound lunar to you, but in fact, you don’t actually go to the sea—and we’ll understand a little later why you don’t go to the sea, or to the mountains, or wherever you like. You have the memory, or more precisely the sensation, injected of having gone where you wanted. And there are no vacations, since daily life is a succession of, quote, “leisure tasks” experienced as work by most people, of which they are very proud—but in reality, these are monitored, structured, intense leisure activities. There’s really no need for tourism. People are already very, very busy.
A quick little pause on that. We no longer travel; we’re almost at the stage where our body is no longer of any use to us.
It moves, we’ll see that. It moves.
Okay.
The body moves, precisely, and it’s well used, because if you don’t make someone move and you confine them cognitively and physically, it quickly derails.
It deteriorates.
Exactly. And so if we don’t have this security, this health, things can only go badly. No, here too, the system aims to maintain that balance. So I showed you an injection with a shot, but, well, you know… considering that it’s more like neural stimulation, don’t take it literally as needle injections.
We’re close to virtual reality, but in “plus plus” mode.
With really this sense of emotional engagement from which you cannot escape. And that is… we’ll talk a bit more about this later in cultural references, also in Dark City, this idea of… are we the sum of our memories, or are we ourselves capable of renewing at each moment? It really raises this question. For me, this state of affairs, this technology I see here, I wonder…—and this is what I see, people seem not to move, not to flinch, to love it—are we just the sum of our memories? Open question, there you go, you take it as you wish, we’ll come back to it a bit later… but it seemed important to tell you about it because it was a question Antoine asked me: “But then vacations, we won’t be able to go to the sea anymore?” That was the anxiety! Very important!
Darn!
Well no, you are confined to your home, confined to your neighborhood. So, with a very limited perimeter, to be able to move, for all kinds of reasons, which we’ll discuss just after.
Well, we’ve already mentioned this idea that cinemas are finished, abandoned, no more shared cultural references. It’s rather disturbing as a fact, after dozens and dozens of years of success, of blockbusters, and seeing the weight the industry represented, which is disappearing. We can see it together—it’s quite clear and defined… But let’s beware of what might come next, because for a long time, I’ve seen people since the 1990s, and often with reason—I’m not criticizing the approach, I’m just sometimes criticizing the way it was done, too caricaturally, criticizing the truly “Black Ops,” “Psy Ops,” pardon me, aspect of some blockbusters, which were there to program people, condition them to think, to do propaganda. I don’t deny this phenomenon. I’m just saying that, since it wasn’t presented in the most pedagogical way possible, many people turned away from this analysis, even though it was accurate. So once again, if we go even further with this technology, there will be no way to even ask this question anymore.
What happened? Among the things that allow me, similarly, to see where we are and what’s going on, there’s a festival that comes back—though I don’t know if it’s every year, twice a year, I don’t know—but it’s “the festival of the eternal spring.” The eternal spring is apparently the cultural revolution, or a major societal evolution, that allowed us to get here. And then people are really very happy. The destruction of books is part of the festivals or the elements that are the most… it’s the climax, so to speak, of the celebration. And usually, similarly, we’ll talk a bit later, there are other shared cultural elements that serve as a foundation—they say, “it’s wonderful.” That’s the basis of the eternal spring. It’s very disturbing for me, because once again, people are happy. And personally, if you talk to me about book burnings, my first emotion isn’t joy.
It doesn’t bring back good memories, and even aside from that, it’s knowledge being destroyed, thought.
They consider it decadence and perversion, that it was really disturbing, that these were useless things that should never have been done. So for them, it’s a celebration.
And here we arrive… and I understand the doubt that will arise in the minds of our listeners, saying, because you say, “they arrive at…,” but it’s us.
Yes!
It’s us in 20, 30, 40, 50 years. How can we…? Let’s remove the “medium and vision” aspect, and if you can Hanael, put yourself in the place of the average listener who hears this, who says: “But how can we go from what we are today—even if we’re not perfect, and we can see that things are already starting to slip slightly [laughs]—to ‘this,’ which denies everything that made our civilization?”
Well, first, I don’t know if you know, I won’t cite the country, but I think you’ll clearly understand who I mean. There’s an entire library that was recently purged from an institution that everyone knows. They send things into space; it was an order from a government. It was simply purged—I repeat, purged. So precious material for reflection was destroyed, administratively. And it’s not because people got angry in the streets, or on social media, that it changed anything. So it’s not because you oppose it, or because you’re unhappy internally, that it changes reality.
People are happy because they are really on a drip, that famous happiness I mentioned—entertainment. And it’s true, I admit, that…—it’s never a judgment—I don’t know how I would react. I’ve already been hungry, I’ve already been cold, I’ve already been fed up with many things in life. If at some point, someone tells me, here’s the camp of happiness, you go there, everything is taken care of, and “yippee yay” until the end of your life… Wow! That’s really a choice. Wow!
Is that what triggers total adherence in our future?
The satisfaction of all needs. And it’s true—it’s not an empty promise. And that’s what’s crazy: it’s not an empty promise. At least, where I see, at the moment I see, it’s not like often, because we are promised, you know, “it will be good and everything will be fine,” “we’ll be together and you won’t be hungry or cold anymore.” And often, we quickly realize those are empty promises. Here, it’s real. And so people go there—and they stay. And that’s extraordinary.
And it’s true that this “Festival of Eternal Spring” also serves to commemorate the founding of “the Alliance.” I don’t know—I prefer to tell you, I don’t know what the Alliance is made of—but it’s “the Alliance,” and that’s how it’s referred to. It’s a bit like the European Union, you see—it’s something where, if you don’t have the detailed definition, it all seems very vague. So I don’t have it. No one explained it to me. I’m just giving you the element.
We don’t know if it’s a global alliance like the “New World Order” that’s been talked about in certain circles for years.
I don’t know. Or maybe it’s just two countries that allied and decided to do… I don’t know. I told you, I don’t see outside, so I don’t know what’s happening beyond the place I’m in. And it’s also the celebration of the advent—so Eternal Spring—the implementation of “Light.” And when “Light” arrives, it’s the renewal of humanity. In short, it’s celebrated every time as the most wonderful thing in the world. And I understand, given what these people experience, that they cannot see it as anything other than wonderful.
So on that point… interaction is based solely on entertainment, multiplied pleasure—because I insist, this is a pleasure these people feel that has nothing to do with, say, the pleasure of secretly eating all the chocolate in the kitchen—it’s something… neurological. That’s the only explanation I have. And what I saw when I was a child, what I would have told you then, is that these people are in a trance, like they’re praying. They’re in another state of mind than ours. And it’s not drugs or anything like that. No—it’s this system that produces that effect, and above all, emotional engagement, which is constantly maintained through electromagnetic impulses.
Now, I did wonder—I saw people wearing things that look like ear devices. Is it medical? Is that how emotional engagement is ensured? I told you, for me “Light” is dematerialized—you can’t escape it. But I did see people wearing things in their ears. Are they hearing aids? I don’t know—I’m just putting it out there.
Within this system, as I told you, it seems that… here I’m focusing on the upper-middle layer, let’s say the bourgeoisie of this society. There are indeed people who have been downgraded, less privileged, and they don’t have access to “Light” as we described, in terms of personalized entertainment, nor even to those “vacation” sensations. They are really downgraded. Work, work—and above all, say nothing. We’ll talk about that a bit later.
So what do they do as work? Because these people—you understood—they don’t work. Those who do work and have access to the “meat bag.” So the “meat bag” is slang. It’s not very…
Yeah, it doesn’t sound appealing.
It’s the name of the substitute for absolute entertainment represented by “Light.” And inside… it’s very disturbing. When I saw it—this is one of the memories that shocked me the most as a child—and I admit I’m still not comfortable with what I saw in those bags.
Imagine a large plastic pillowcase, black, opaque. You dive into it—there’s water inside. I had to represent it open so you understand, but imagine it closed front and back, like being in cellophane or vacuum-sealed—I don’t know how to explain it. There is liquid, and then it’s like you’re put under vacuum, with lots of cables and a computer.
Again, it’s hard to represent exactly what I saw with these tools, so I gave you an approximation. There are sensors, and through electromagnetic stimulation—apparently of the brain, since the sensors are focused on the head and face—you are either injected with, or made to experience, real memories that are not your own.
So it’s not reviving your own happy memories—it’s someone else’s memories. Stolen memories, too. So if you want to access someone’s memory without their knowledge, you can. That’s what happens in the “meat bags.” Forbidden memories—things you’re not supposed to evoke, like someone reading a book, for example, or someone accessing… not exactly imaginary memories, but something calibrated on demand.
I won’t go into detail—you can probably guess which industry weighs the most heavily on that side, in terms of fantasy. That’s what people mostly do in the meat bags: accessing things they’re not allowed to, or can’t access through “Light.”
And so it’s the main leisure activity of the poor—or of bourgeois and rich people looking for a thrill, a bit of transgression. My theory—and it’s only my theory—is that the meat bags come from a diversion of gestation bags. We’ll come back to that later. There are still biological families, but it’s extremely marginal. Most children are not born in the traditional way—it’s surrogacy, or at least not carried by a human.
Inside these bags, as you understood, there are transgressive elements. And above all, it’s a place where sensations are lived in a very intense way—it’s hard to detach from them. It’s extremely… convincing. Very convincing.
And in one memory I saw, through someone’s eyes, it was a man who wanted to experience the life of a little girl. That made it even more disturbing for me. And he still had glitches—he was convinced for a while that he was still the little girl. And that’s important: it can have dramatic consequences, psychologically and cognitively.
Because this—we understand—is a misuse of the system. And since it’s controlled on the black market, anything can happen, including harm to users. Always remember: when something exists on the black market, what are the consequences? Will the person be responsible for what they did?
These experiences—these immersions in others’ memories—create both emotional and physiological addiction. Some people are ready to do anything to go back into a bag, even to relive the exact same thing, just to feel those sensations again.
To relive it. We understand that they don’t “live” it, but relive it virtually.
Exactly. And this connects with another practice I often see in this context, which I don’t fully understand—whether it’s psychological, energetic, spiritual, or political. Meditation is mandatory twice a day. It is measured and tested, to check whether you are truly in a state—what we would call today mindfulness—to assess your mental health. I don’t know… again, I’m not judging. Is it beneficial? Because it’s true, I always recommend mindfulness meditation—it’s good. But from there to punishing you if you don’t do it, or taking away your credits… I don’t know. I’m not so sure.
And then, being monitored during this meditation…
Yes.
So under permanent control. What’s the purpose behind all this? Indeed, that’s…
Is the stated purpose really the goal being pursued? That’s always the question with psychology experiments and social engineering—always ask yourself what’s really happening inside the experiment. Above all, you understand that this society doesn’t need meaning. It’s really searching for emotions. And that, I’m not telling you anything new. We are right in the middle of it, I’m sorry… I, as you’ve seen, am really a “film lover,” I love watching films, especially from a special 90s/2000s slice. And in those, you can criticize many things. There’s a lot to criticize, obviously, but wow, we had philosophical bombs hidden in movies.
Now, when I watch a film, I assure you, I could knit miles of wool without lifting my eye, because nothing happens, and it’s not even visually nice. The plot is terrible. Honestly, I won’t waste two seconds of my life watching that. And it’s not because I’m snobby—it’s just that it doesn’t entertain me. I approve of nothing!
The 90s/2000s decade was… well, I also love all your cinematic shares during our shows, because it was a great decade of so many films and directors that made us think… Not always well, but they made us think. For me, there are so many films that marked me, that even helped me…—a bit like music or certain readings—helped me build myself.
…and they had things to say, even if, as you say, sometimes they said them poorly, said bad things, whatever—it doesn’t matter—but they said things. And that gave us fuel, and as we said earlier, cultural material to share together. It created a common ferment, even if it was flawed, I’m sorry. You might think I’m obsessed. I love “The Goonies.”
Of course! Choco and Sinok.
And so, I need to re-watch it, and I talk about it with my son. Well, we laugh. There are things like that, and it’s important because it creates complicity. Here, I’m talking about a degree of family intimacy, but even with friends, we have references like that, cultural ones, and it creates bonds. And if we lose that, what do we have left? I insist, in terms of meaning. It’s not because “The Goonies” is philosophical—it’s because it’s fun, because we enjoy it together. And if that’s gone, there’s no intellectual, psychic, or emotional intimacy. You understand the decline that worries me in the civilization I see in this future. Where is the connection? There is no connection—only the illusion of belief. We know everything, we see everything, we understand everything. It’s shocking, because then I don’t see what we are, again, in relation to that line and reflection in “Dark City.” Are we the sum of our memories, or are we really someone in a fluid, logical way? I insist—I don’t have the answer. But what this future and this system seem to show me is that there is nothing. If we don’t fill it, well, it’s just… emptiness. Many people express emptiness and are perfectly happy that way, and want to impose this system.
I see this system being put in place, notably through decisions, again, very modern ones. You know there are globally famous film producers who have explained that they will further simplify their film synopses—basically the scripts—because people are on their phones and need help understanding films. In short, let’s be honest, they make dumb films for people multitasking. And I’m not talking about driving or anything. No—they’re really on their couch scrolling, doing three things at once. Are you sure that’s where we want to go?
I’m not telling you to overthink 3-hour films—I would never force you to watch “Tree of Life” and make you comment every two minutes, “What did you think of this shot? That’s a reference to another film…”
Yeah, but still. Well yes, the seventh art goes through that.
We’re not talking about conviviality.
And now, it’s no longer about the seventh art. We understand. You can forget the word art.
Completely. And that’s where we’re going, and these are industries worth billions. So, again, I prefer to tell you: we are right in it, and it has a conditioning power on your mind. As I said, I really admired all the people in the 90s who tried to be whistleblowers and warn, “Be careful—you’re watching propaganda films; this is propaganda—but empty propaganda.”
And again, obviously, you know this already, and it annoys me: yes, my son watches cartoons, and I go with him, and we carefully select. Because sometimes I ask, “Are you sure what you’re watching makes sense? Does it entertain you or just occupy the emptiness?” Even he has reached the point where he says, “Turn it off, it’s awful.” That’s his life. But I’m very reassured because instead of following his friends at recess—“I saw that, like you”—he says, “I don’t like it, I don’t want to watch it.” Because we’re already in social formatting, including by emptiness. And that shocks me, because I insist: children are the foundation of society.
If you put emptiness in them now, then throughout life it will stick. Up to 30 years old, they’ll subscribe reflexively to have their little noisy entertainment. And that’s not acceptable, because it means the inner life is annihilated—and we need that inner life. I insist, and we’ll talk more about spirituality later. We spoke about meditation. Soon, I’ll return to these meditation and spirituality issues.
This is also extremely important. One of the triggering elements of these radical social changes—people will tell you, “It’s over.” Soil can no longer be cultivated, must no longer be cultivated for our food; it’s forbidden both for the land and for you. There will always be plenty of “super” excuses. Pay attention to this signal. It’s a key signal. Why? Because once what I’m going to show you is created, dependence, monopoly, and social control will be absolute.
And then, I can’t remember the name of this extraordinary man in France [Pascal Poot]—I don’t want to say something wrong—I think he’s in the south, a man who still grows free tomato seeds, very hardy ones, especially in the mountains. This man gives us the most beautiful gift in the world because you’ll understand that we already struggle with free seeds—but then, you can kiss them goodbye: you bury them, and it’s crazy. I invite you to re-watch the show we did about werewolves: it’s the secret order guarding fertile seeds, and in a way, they’re the first farmers.
We are going to completely destroy the heritage that became, in folklore, the famous werewolves. And that’s the final act, the total triumph. Honestly, seeing that always astounds me—I say, “But this is impossible, we can’t let this happen”—but apparently, unfortunately, yes, we will let it happen. Seeds don’t stay alive forever. Even if you bury them or hide them, they can expire for a thousand reasons. But make them live. Support the people who do this. Cultivate it yourself in your garden if you can. I’m not telling you to… some people do crazy things planting seeds randomly anywhere, fruit trees… no, that’s not it. It’s already nice to try, but there are other things to do. We can think together about soil dynamics: how to enrich it, how to plant renewing plants, etc. It’s a real societal question. If you don’t know what to do, get closer to professionals—and you’ll see, there are real concrete actions to prevent this. I assure you, we’re going to get there fast.
In any case, here we are touching on what is called food autonomy, food sovereignty, which is the pillar, the foundation of freedom.
Exactly. And here, we can no longer dispose of ourselves, because okay, if you’re like me, you’re a bit “excited,” you love to inform yourself a little—“hi, wild foraging!”—about all the things that we can do on our own. But let’s not kid ourselves. Just because you know how to forage in the forest doesn’t mean you’ll survive alone, huh. No, sorry for the myths, but we must say things as they are. You might survive a few months, but you can’t live your whole life, raise a family properly. So once again, we all need to look for solutions together and not get trapped.
Why? Because instead of the rhythm of the seasons, we will substitute production cycles. And how? With cultivation satellites. Now, there’s a very Hollywood-style vision being offered… AI proposed this illustration. I kept it because it helps illustrate the point, but it looks more like the second one I’m showing you… this black cube with its solar panels. It’s more like that kind of thing, fully robotized and autonomous. Reduction of food costs, which is totally controlled.
Here, there aren’t many wars; clearly, there isn’t a context of violence or aggression. But on the other hand, if there are wars and violent actions, they are aimed precisely at these satellites already in space, and at their delivery points, which are, I insist, robotized, automated. You understand, food is really for the privileged, the people who have access to these means we discussed together, to “Lumière.” The others—I don’t know, I don’t know what they eat, I don’t know what they do. In full transparency, I really ask myself this question.
And again, the warning sign that will signal a full turn toward this technology is… Well, first of all, there are two elements… Sorry, I’m laughing, it’s not funny, but it’s really absurd. Normally, if it’s not already the case, we should be sold robotic tools that target and destroy weeds or problems with lasers or heating technology, replacing chemical weeding. Understand, replacing chemical herbicides.
And in fact, there will be a terrible crisis and a succession of mass fires and over-accidents linked to these poorly controlled technologies. Especially, massive pollution, and if I understand what’s happening correctly, didn’t they set a data center or a factory on fire—something they shouldn’t have—and it caused a secondary pollution accident, leading people to say, “Now it’s over, we no longer use physical Earth”—well, the Earth, the planet we live on—for cultivation. We will do something else.
And once this event happens, normally there’s a second event: we begin deploying these terraforming elements into space, in cultivation satellites. At first, we will all get terrible stomach bugs for reasons I don’t understand, probably because there aren’t the right probiotics and the right things growing in these space-terraformed substrates. And once we pass that barrier, fine, we can all eat it.
Hooray! I’ll eat my little space salad. Tempting, huh.
Not really inspiring. I’m sorry. Meat—we’ll get to that just after. That’s not inspiring either. But at least on this point, I had quite a few preliminary elements to propose, to try to monitor whether we are still on this future trajectory, and if it happens, you know what the immediate consequences are. So it’s just something to consider… and I’m telling you, you’ll need to protest beforehand, organize beforehand, if you don’t want to eat space salad, because it doesn’t excite me much.
Okay, we continue with these good things, and indeed, in space, there are not only cultivation elements, but another important element: all the components that apparently allow “Lumière” to subsist and exist. So what we could call today, in our words, “data centers.” When I was a little girl, I called them the big computers. I think I must have said at least once, “the big computers in space.” They are there, and they are indeed, one, in space, and two, also underground.
Well, you’ll find one of my favorite subjects again: underground installations… which need no introduction, but it was important to mention. And what is happening there? What is being cultivated? Well, you can find some on the surface, underground, and even in space. But primarily, it’s on the surface. Synthetic meat laboratories.
One of the important markers foreshadowing the arrival of synthetic meat on markets is the bursting of the financial bubble around all protein substitute products, which were supposed to become, through plant proteins, our future food. Once that is completely eliminated, you can be sure that the arrival of this synthetic meat I’m talking about is also well underway.
Moreover, and this is very important: the massive arrival of new patients linked to poorly managed high-protein consumption, who will develop kidney problems. We already have kidney problems worldwide, but here it will be even worse. So these are two precursor elements to anticipate to see if we’re moving toward this synthetic meat.
Yes, it will be real, but not from an animal.
Exactly. It’s organoid, exactly like the things we send into space. And that’s why I know that, here too, I’ve touched something that should indeed arrive, because organoids sent into space look like this. You know those famous unexplained gelatin or blood rains—we’ve seen them together. I’m not saying that explains everything happening, but it explains part of these miraculous and strange rains: they are organoid rains falling from experimental satellites, which were there to check how these things react in space—whether testing diseases, or, what I think is real, this famous synthetic meat.
It uses less water. It’s ethical, since no one is killed. It’s just a muscle—well, it’s a “thing.” So, on that point, I don’t foresee any form of consciousness, but I don’t know if I want to—here I present it as such—to eat meat that was “harvested” from a wall. I don’t know. I don’t know.
Yes, yes. Well yes, we can hear all points of view on that. People who advocate for not consuming animal meat, flesh from living beings, might find their place in it. Personally, that space salad and that synthetic burger don’t appeal to me.
You’ll pass on that.
No, it doesn’t make me dream.
Well, if you pass, maybe you’ll eat… either the occasional food quotas, which are real food… but truly treated as festive food. I don’t know if you remember your grandparents celebrating when they had an orange at Christmas. Well, it’s about that level. My God, real food that actually grew and everything—wow! It’s generally experienced almost like a ceremony. It’s once a month. You’re entitled to your real meal, delivered like a birthday present. It’s wonderful. The real thing that grew, the real fish that was killed… or the carrot that came out of the ground, from a privileged place. That’s it—the thing, the gift.
So for me, that doesn’t really inspire me, I want to say. It’s not my dream. And above all, maybe you’ll eat the other thing—the food of the downgraded—which is really… when I mentioned earlier—laughing, I think it’s La Belle Verte with Timsit, where he completely goes off the rails in his role—saying they’ll make people eat, forgive me, crap. That’s really it: a nutrient made from… I used to say from air, like they’ll blow air into something and it becomes a big block, a paste, like soy paste, and they’ll eat solidified air.
As “woo-woo” as it sounds, in fact today—well, I think 4–5 years ago—NASA created a collaboration with a company that seems to do this. That is, nutrients made from condensed carbon. So it’s not air and it’s not crap—sorry—but it’s almost that. They’ll make you eat pollution in brick form. Nice, right? Do you feel like eating pollution bricks, Guillaume?
That really makes me want this future! I mean, if someone tells me tomorrow we should stop eating meat, I’ve done that for many years, and it’s fine—eating vegetables and legumes is perfect. But this… there’s nothing here that makes me dream.
And I agree. It may be… I insist again… nothing is set in stone. I have visions, I’m a medium, and I’m sure that by using our individual and collective intelligence together, we can organize something else. It’s just that I’ve seen this in a constant and unchanging way since I was a child, and I thought it might be worth talking about—if we can find another way to evolve together, that would be nice.
And yet, many would shout—as these people do—“But it’s great, there’s no more hunger in the world, we’ve solved everything!” Okay, I admit it. You’ve got me there—I don’t know what to say to that.
We can’t just cut it like that, decide it’s good or bad. What you’re seeing are hypothetical events that might happen. Are we thinking like we said earlier about films—excuse the expression—“like grumpy old people,” saying “it was better before”? Resistant to human evolution? I don’t know. But still, there are many things where my intuition tells me: no, I don’t want that.
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Jedi Master
Part 3/3
I understand the “I don’t want it”—I don’t want it either. And indeed, we understood that protest is not at all central in this society. It’s really a total absence of contestation—it’s the society of absolute peace. So what are the instruments of that peace?
Well, it’s the post-book tool of total contextualization. As I told you, it’s “Companion.” As a little girl, I internalized it as: “we managed to create a kind of permanent phone with a guardian angel.” But it’s not an angel at all, nor a guardian—it’s what we call today an LM, an AI, a program, a thing.
It’s perfect for answering all your questions, especially to educate you—or rather, as you understood, to give you the illusion of being educated depending on your level of privilege in accessing information. It’s the ideal companion. In a perfect world, if you’re like me, you might have enjoyed going to a museum or into nature, and it could have been a wonderful tool to contextualize plants and things you see—even though here there are no museums, but imagine…
In reality, it’s a dead end—an invisible trap, an intellectual cage that tells you what to do, when to do it, with whom, organizing your outings and your days, without showing you the biases and inequalities in access to information that it creates.
I showed it to you as a small device because I don’t know how else to present it. But know that I don’t actually see it. For me, it’s part of “Lumière.” It’s always there, with you, like a small hologram around you. You see what you have to do, the interactions you must organize—like a café suggestion in the illustration.
I wonder if it’s an implant, something that works through bone conduction. We talked about that before, in the “Air Loom” episode, I think—bone conduction. Why? Because there’s a recurring hand operation. I didn’t fully understand it, but there’s some recurring hand surgery, and I wonder if it goes through that—or maybe through the ear devices I saw. But I think it’s more likely the hand operation… something like an intercom system that transmits all this.
So in this society, the promise is safety—but the result is enforced transparency. When you do something affecting your “credits”—this kind of social credit—it’s not just you who is judged, it’s you and all your close relations.
If you cross the street improperly, run a red light—well, there are no red lights, you’ll understand why—you make a big mistake. It’s not just you who pays; it’s everyone in your hierarchical and genealogical chain. So there’s no privacy at all.
This “Companion” is even more than that. You are born, and it is closer to you than your biological mother. It’s always there, answering all your questions. It’s almost your digital double. It’s terrifying—it’s truly an extension of yourself.
If you’re familiar with ancient Greek philosophy, with the idea of the “daimon,” it’s clearly your daimon. And, stretching the comparison a bit, if you’ve seen The Golden Compass by Pullman—or better yet, read it—it’s somewhat like that. Except here, it’s entirely compliant, smooth… not contradictory. It doesn’t push you to surpass yourself. It tells you: “this is how you should be, and you are perfect as you are.” You must not change.
You have no control over it. No coding ability. No technological or even philosophical access to it. Anything can be altered without your knowledge. And your access to “Companion” depends entirely on the computing power allocated to you—which can change at any moment.
That’s absolutely terrifying, because there is a real emotional dependency on this conversational and planning tool. It’s like a permanent life planner with which you’ve formed a parasocial relationship—I don’t know how else to put it.
Be careful what you share with these tools. Don’t project onto them. Don’t anthropomorphize them. They are “things.” It’s like saying, “my couch understands me.” No—it doesn’t.
That’s crucial, because what I saw there, and what I interpreted as a guardian angel as a child—I don’t think it wants you well. In fact, today, as an adult, I’m sure it doesn’t wish you well.
We’re dealing with a form of technological authoritarianism—or at least a tool that fosters authoritarianism and mass control, presenting itself as a friend, a helper, a support system, a tool… and it is a tool, but one that imposes itself on us rather than coming to help us.
Exactly. And that’s why I don’t see any schools. That may surprise you, but I don’t see any place of instruction—at no point have I seen a school or any kind of educational setting. Now, school can be criticized, of course, but it had the vocation—I emphasize the word “vocation”—to shape minds. Here, “Lumière” conditions behavior. It’s not there to teach you how to think; it tells you what to do. It goes even further than “what to think”—it’s directly “what to do.”
So again, you could tell me, “That’s great, I’ll know exactly what my purpose in life is and I’ll never question anything again.” And I agree, many people will find that appealing. Personally, I’m not very comfortable with that vision of individuality.
Before, you could have a job and a career. Now, it’s a race for performance to remain visible within “Lumière.” And “Lumière” also works exactly like a social network, with these scoring systems: when you have a “beneficial” influence—I emphasize “beneficial”—on others, meaning you’re charitable, empathetic, or doing good deeds according to their framework, you rise in a kind of ranking. It’s exactly like what we see today with algorithms: “this post is relevant, we’ll show it to all your contacts,” even if it’s the most idiotic thing you’ve ever seen.
And that’s crucial—I insist: just because something is massively exposed in the media doesn’t mean it has value. Always ask yourself: what are the hidden stakes behind it?
Speaking of hidden stakes and supposedly “doing good” while something else is going on behind the scenes: gyms. You’re going to laugh, because honestly, they’re everywhere. There are no schools, no museums, no libraries—but gyms? They’re everywhere. And it’s really hell.
Why? Because they are completely personalized. Some people would say, “That’s my dream, I’d have my own personal coach.” But for me, the idea that… well, I’m not locked in a box, but I’m told, “You go there, you do these exercises, and you don’t stop”—because sport is performative. That is, it must be shown publicly. There’s no private life, even in sports practice. It must be displayed, lived collectively, and once again, it is certified and monitored.
Why? Because the doctrine is: if you can control your body and your emotions—especially since it seems there are hormones involved; they consume a powder when they go there… it makes me think of protein supplements in gyms today, though that’s something else—it gives you another emotional boost. Something happens. So you go, and you feel even happier going.
And if you don’t go to what I identify as gyms, you don’t get that psycho-emotional well-being or that hormonal “high.” So people go because they feel obligated. Those who try not to go start crying. Really crying… I don’t know if you’re familiar with oxytocin injections for women in labor when things don’t progress—one of the side effects is uncontrollable crying in the following days. It’s well known.
I wonder—I don’t have proof—are these oxytocin injections? Normally oxytocin is injected as a liquid, so I don’t see why it would be powders. But I’m just giving you the elements I have.
If you’re offered to go to a gym and, when you try to stop going, you start crying—that’s clearly not something you should be doing. And above all, once again, it occupies the body. There’s no more introspection, no more inner life. You’re just there, doing things. Constantly. And joyfully—you have to go, you’re happy to go. And if you don’t, it’s terrible.
Is this offered to the whole society, or again, only to the privileged?
Yes, everyone. If you don’t meet your quota of physical activity—whether at work or in the gym—you are punishable. You’re seen as lazy, as a burden, because you might become ill and others will have to take care of you. So you’re made to feel guilty for not taking care of yourself. And that works extremely well.
So it’s not like Wall-E with obese people—no, here everyone is fit, looks great, seems happy. And it’s true that, from a distance, when I was little, I thought: they look so happy.
Well sure, if they’re all in shape, smiling from ear to ear, with a vacant gaze…
And that’s all they have to do! Can you imagine? That’s all they do. So I understand why people might adhere to this model, because—sorry—they love their lives and don’t reflect at all on the causes and consequences. They’re fully immersed in their happiness, stuck in it up to their necks.
Now, just to add a small note about sports: I used to go to gyms, like many people, and you don’t always have a coach, or it’s expensive. Having a coach—even a digital or artificial one—that helps structure your workouts, motivates and encourages you, can actually be a nice experience. So I’m a bit torn on that.
And I understand, because I also have a deep appreciation for places that help us take care of body and mind. But the idea that it’s monitored, and that if you don’t engage in sports it’s seen as suspicious—and that there are consequences—that troubles me.
And especially since, as we discussed—again, I think in the “Air Loom” episode about transduction—this idea of having a coach’s voice transmitted directly to people has already been developed. So for me, we’re not far from that. We have the means to get there. The only thing missing, as I said, is the declassification of certain technologies—because once that enters the market, it implies many other things…
There’s a snowball effect.
Exactly. Because it basically forces the admission that all the people who, until now, have been shouting, “I hear voices and I’m being persecuted,” might not have been entirely wrong. So it implies a lot in terms of societal evolution.
I’ll say it again: people look good, healthy, but in reality they’re trapped and obsessed with their rules of the game… which make no sense, I want to stress that, in relation to human nature. I don’t believe human nature is about being a hamster running in a wheel. Honestly, I really don’t think so. But some might say, “This is wonderful, I want that.”
“I want to go into the wheel with the hamster!” [laughter]. Really.
So, the users of this network of interaction—the “Lumière”—seem to have… as I told you, there are apparitions, holograms—what we would call today visual projections. It involves the optic nerve, but even blind people, people with visual impairments, use “Lumière.” So it’s not… you see, I don’t quite know how to put it. There’s… what would you call it? A contradiction that I’ve noticed but don’t understand.
This mechanism clearly involves the optic nerve, through processes I don’t understand. But be careful, because we’re often told, “Yes, Neuralink is awful, it’s obscene, because it’s implanted in the brain.” I agree. I personally don’t want batteries in my brain, especially when you know what can happen with lithium batteries and spontaneous combustion.
Anyway, what I’m trying to say is: apparently, we don’t need such invasive technology. And I’m convinced that behind the publicly presented development of Neuralink, there are other things that will emerge—and in particular, I suspect the development of a part of the technology that will serve to build “Lumière.” But again, these are just intuitions. I have nothing to prove that.
This algorithmic life—you understand—of predictions or orders… because when I was a child, there were no algorithms, so I didn’t have words for that. So for me, it was “orders.” We had a schedule to follow, and that’s how I saw it: there were orders to obey, and everyone was happy.
It even anticipates your needs—very basic physiological ones. The need to go to the bathroom, for example: it tells you which restroom to go to, the closest, the cleanest. I know it may sound awful to you, but it’s actually one of those basic conveniences. If you have a child, you know how important access to a restroom is—so you might think, “Actually, that’s pretty good.”
So again, I’m not making a value judgment. All of this can seem wonderful—until the moment when you’re told, even before you’ve been diagnosed, that you’re being evicted from your so-called “home,” your konbini, because you are going to develop a disease and are therefore no longer “bankable,” so you must be downgraded.
I find that quite insane. Everything seemed fine—until I saw things like that. So we live nowhere, we come from nowhere, we’re going nowhere. Not exactly inspiring…
We become invisible to society, completely.
We lose our value.
You know, it’s like in certain civilizations or cultures where, when someone is excluded, they aren’t killed—but people act as if they’re dead.
Yes.
In the village, they’re no longer seen. They can be there, but no one sees them. They’re completely made invisible. That’s what we become.
Exactly. And that’s what’s so striking. Because you might expect that such a society—since it has the means—would be a society of solidarity. They clearly have the institutional and material resources. But no. If you lose your value and your level of engagement, you drop to the very bottom. And as we saw, that means eating your little gray ration… it’s not even bread, it looks like CO₂ tofu… and sneaking into your little “meat bag” to get by. Wonderful. Really makes you dream.
Ah yes…
So to sum up, it’s institutionalized mistreatment of vulnerable people—the elderly, the disabled—except for the most privileged, or those who manage to be taken care of by their families.
And again, sorry to go back to toilets, but it’s a small detail that struck me. There’s no water in toilets anymore. It’s some kind of foam or vapor that seems to freeze everything, which is then stored and processed later. So you don’t see anything… there’s no “splash,” if you’ll excuse me. It goes “shtook!”.
Basically, poop turns into stalactites.
That’s kind of the idea, and it’s very unsettling. It’s one of the things that really surprised me, because you expect a lot of things—but maybe not that. So I just wanted to share that little anecdote, which really struck me.
Speaking of surprising things, there’s something else I can’t explain either: curfews. There are nighttime curfews. That, at least, might be somewhat understandable—but there are daytime curfews too. There are specific hours when you’re told, “Today, from this time to that time,” and for reasons I don’t understand or perceive, you must stay at home or wherever you happen to be when it starts.
It’s extremely unsettling, because if you can’t leave a café quickly enough to get home, you’re trapped—you have to go into the nearest shop, sit down, and wait. And nothing happens. I don’t know what’s going on. I don’t understand why it happens. There must be some logistical reason that escapes me—maybe related to how “Lumière” operates, or something else… But in any case, it happens regularly, and above all, it’s predictable. It’s not like “we’ve blocked access to a neighborhood because of vandalism”—which doesn’t happen, by the way. There’s no violence. But there must be a reason, and I’d really like to understand what it is and why these curfews exist.
Then, among the other “nice” things—if you can call them that—there are anti-gravity drones, which operate using vacuum, or at least partially using vacuum, as I mentioned. Apparently, they’ve been declassified and are now for commercial use. They are the ones that act as guardians of both private and public space, and they’re part of the system’s “workforce.”
Now, I want to be clear: I don’t want the evidence I’m about to mention—which might seem to support what I’m saying—to be taken as absolute proof. It doesn’t mean I’m 100% right. But I’d like to share some patents I’ve managed to uncover, which I would have liked to include in Black and OVNI, but didn’t find in time. These are patents from 2004, 2005, and 2012 that align with the technologies I’ve been describing.
And importantly, these drones can’t really cause accidents—because if one crashes, it self-destructs, it collapses in on itself. So again, they don’t pose a danger in circulation—unless you have a flawed network like the current internet. In that case, a crash could be dangerous. But with something like “Lumière,” supposedly without any failure, it would represent zero danger to the population.
So I’m sharing several patents with you—two clearly identified, and one referenced indirectly in a Nature article, a peer-reviewed journal, which still carries some credibility. I’m not sharing these to say I’m absolutely right about everything I’ve written in Black and OVNI, or that you should believe me blindly. Just that I have increasingly solid elements to support what I’ve described—and what I’m proposing as a possible future.
In all of this landscape—and I mentioned the example of traffic lights—I don’t see any cars. That’s one of the things that unsettled me the most… although since it’s been in my mind for so long, it didn’t surprise me as much anymore. But Anton asked me, “Where are the cars?”
Well… I don’t see any cars. There simply aren’t any. And that ties into pollution reduction—we’re going to talk a lot about that. The idea of depollution and purification is very clear. It’s been presented as a “soft mobility” project. But in reality, you are assigned to a green residence—truly assigned.
And because of that, you can’t move freely or beyond a certain perimeter. All of this in the name of eliminating cars… And I’m not saying cars are the best invention in the world. I’m just saying that if one day you’re told, “Get rid of cars, bikes, scooters—throw it all away, it’s bad,” we should all take a step back and ask the right questions.
Yes, on one hand, cars were sold to us as symbols of freedom and mobility—and we tend to associate mobility with freedom, which makes sense. But here, you’re saying people are restricted to specific areas. So there’s no longer any need to travel. No more going on vacation to the seaside—so no need for a car to get there.
No work, no car.
So yes, cars are environmentally harmful. But I’m not convinced that the societal organization proposed to replace them is a perfect solution.
No, absolutely not—I don’t agree with it. Especially the idea of confinement. I’m quite resistant to that.
And similarly, among the things that are absent—things everyone expects—I’m sorry, but I haven’t seen any humanoid robots. You know, like in I, Robot with Will Smith—I think it’s based on something by Philip K. Dick or similar. And when you consider… I mean, objectively, by saying this I’m taking a huge risk. You see how much money is invested in anthropomorphic robotics—billions. I’m taking a big risk saying this.
Well… it doesn’t lead anywhere.
In my opinion, something happened. Something bad happened. [laughter] Clearly. For it to be removed and not part of everyday life, something must have gone wrong.
And along those lines—speaking of troubling things—you know we were talking about robot vacuum cleaners. They are controlled by cameras. And you know that servers aren’t always well secured. There was a huge scandal not long ago, where photos leaked—people on the toilet, people in minimal clothing, at home, just going about their lives while their robot vacuum moved around them.
You can imagine the impact that had on the industry. It was a major blow.
There aren’t cameras on robot vacuums?
Yes—there are. All robot vacuums have cameras at the front and the back. So don’t walk around naked in front of them. It’s not a good idea… [laughter]
Or have nothing to hide!
Yeah, sure, but the whole “we have nothing to hide” doctrine isn’t a good one. And I think that’s exactly what’s happening with these butler systems, because you already know: most of the things sold as autonomous and AI-driven—okay, sure. It’s Nvidia that created the metaverse allowing the robot to train itself 24/7, but we have no idea where that training ends in that simulated world. And all the others rely on… something like the Mechanical Turk [Note: The Mechanical Turk, or chess-playing automaton, was a famous hoax built at the end of the 18th century; it was a supposed automaton capable of playing chess]. In other words, you no longer have a house cleaner, but you have a house cleaner in Bangladesh remotely operating the butler robot in your home. But just imagine the level of cynicism—I mean, she could also pick up a knife. Sorry to say something that violent, but has anyone ever thought about the possibility of a social tragedy? And imagine this on a global scale: someone finds a way to hack the system of all butler robots and commits a criminal act. I’m not going to give any ideas, obviously… investigations or…
That makes quite a futuristic movie scenario, yes.
It’s “I, Robot” with Will Smith, and I think it comes from K. Dick, and you just have to understand that… okay, there are the so-called Asimov laws, but like anything in a network—and that’s why data centers need to be hidden—everything can be hacked, even if you just walk in on your own two feet… and without even needing to bother with complex cybersecurity protections. So I don’t see butler robots, I don’t see humanoid robots, yet things are indeed highly automated. So I do think there are extremely advanced forms of robotics, but they’re not visible at first glance. The public isn’t confronted with them directly, and they’re not little humanoid figures. Another hypothesis, another hypothesis… maybe these robots are so advanced, and so well hidden as humans, that I simply didn’t recognize them as such.
"Terminator" style.
And I showed you in the other images this idea of drones. So the drone, which is both the delivery agent and the surveillance agent—and they exist through a hive mind, which is conditioned and sustained by “light.” And in fact, these hives—we know this, for example—when the day is over, in the evening, they go back and line up. Not to recharge the way the image suggests, with cables, because as I told you, the energy is “light,” invisible to the naked eye. So I don’t know what it is, but it’s at once a source of network, energy, and propulsion—you get the idea. What actually happens in these hives—and this is something I’ve seen and that I know, because it’s something I perceive—I insist, I’m not universal, I only see things as if through a keyhole—there are people working there, taking care of these drones when they return to the hive. It’s extremely cynical. Why? Because they are the most socially downgraded people. They are the most confined. They are forced to work, as we understand, for nothing, in a concealed way. It’s not secret, it’s just hidden from the general public. And they are, to a large extent, the primary users of the bags, the “meat bags”… because they are the ones who need leisure the most and are completely exhausted. On what principle do these hive drones operate? Well, they’re based on probability, exactly like what we see in “Minority Report.” I insist—other people can corroborate this kind of intuition, let’s put it that way. So before, there were judges; now, there are probabilities. And how do you escape, how do you challenge a probability about something that hasn’t even happened yet, just because it has been decided that your metrics indicate you’re going to commit a criminal act? How do you respond to that? The presumption of innocence is over. It’s “this is who you are,” and this is what’s going to happen—you can’t contest it. You don’t even know it yourself yet, but it’s been decided because that’s what your data corresponds to, and that’s it. You can no longer plead your case, you can hardly contest your score, and that’s after having been stripped of all your privileges. So it’s a society of administrative and technological control. I insist, I’m not the only one talking about this—if we want to extend this line of reasoning together: a little movie night. There’s “Blade Runner,” obviously. Once again, it’s K. Dick adapted for cinema, and brilliantly so. “Minority Report,” “Matrix,” “Brazil,” more conceptual, “A Scanner Darkly,” where you’ll also find Keanu Reeves.
“Matrix” marked my generation, at least, and when you mentioned the meat bags, we see fairly similar things in “Matrix.”
Yes, exactly. And in fact, it didn’t come out of nowhere. The people behind the imagination of that film were inspired in particular by “World on a Wire” (1970), which is exactly a precursor to “Matrix,” and also to “Dark City,” which came just before, and which is really—again, I’ve said it four times in this show—but watch it, watch it with fresh eyes. Don’t listen to what I said or to my influence—just watch it, please. Even the special effects have aged incredibly well; that’s how well crafted it was. And it’s true that we often associate advanced technology with some form of collective awakening. Personally, as you understand, I see it more as a programmed dystopia—sorry… And I’m not the only one thinking in that direction. Why? You’ve all probably seen “Her,” which again foreshadows everything happening to us in terms of social drama centered around interactions with LLMs, and the fact of projecting a person onto tools like AI—that’s truly dramatic. There’s also “Severance,” which I strongly, strongly recommend. Well, “They Live,” a great classic—you all know the scene where the guy puts on his glasses and sees that everyone around him is a zombie. So that needs no introduction. But “A.I. Artificial Intelligence”! Now that one—bring some Kleenex tissues. I still cry just thinking about it. It’s one of Spielberg’s most underrated masterpieces. It’s a marvel. Not because—again, we talked about it in the previous episode—it’s not so much the form, nor the fact that it’s about a futuristic society, that matters; it’s the message behind it. And I assure you, ask yourself: “Is he really talking about robots?” Is Spielberg really talking about robots in that film? It’s important to ask the question. So watch it—with a new pair of glasses—and ask yourself that. Especially since, for those who like extraterrestrials, you’re in for a treat—but I’m just saying.
No, on Nurea, I don’t think people are very, very interested in that topic. [ironic, laughter]
Not at all! I don’t know why… No, not at all. So, as you understand, we have this idea of a perpetual readjustment of a surveillance system, a monitoring system that tracks errors. So it’s a constant stress. And these people live within—you’ve understood this—a closed space. A barrier imposed for security reasons. You get it: this idea is introduced not to tell people “we’re going to harm you by locking you in,” but to tell them, “I’m protecting you.” And officially, the barrier is not seen at all as a prison or a border—it’s just the barrier… it’s there to protect you. I don’t know what’s happening beyond the barrier. Has the world been destroyed? Are people happier there? I have no idea. I don’t know. I just know that we can’t go there and that we have no way of getting there… so it separates two worlds, if we can put it that way. So we don’t really know whether the drones guarding the space are guardians or jailers. It’s quite enigmatic to me. And who is protecting what? From whom, again? And that’s really the true tragedy in this story. You are being watched by these drones, among other things. Not… One might think it’s an implant… It’s not the implant that matters, it’s the DNA—or at least your marker, I don’t know what you’d call it, your genetic marker. Anyway, it’s something that belongs to you, that makes up your body, and if you’re not in the database, these drones will destroy you immediately. So even if you… I mean, you see what I mean—it’s terrible. And in particular, if there’s an illness—we’ll talk about that later—that alters your DNA, or I don’t know, something that changes what you are, you risk being destroyed by your own guardians. I find that pretty insane. And all of this, again, the stated goal is to protect nature—but nature isn’t protected. Nature is managed, and humans are no longer Humans with a capital H, but just an adjustment variable, a parameter. It’s quite intense to imagine that such a thing could be possible. But I can assure you that in the latest statistics I saw circulating, regarding the rate of consent to what we might call an ecological dictatorship, it was rather “optimistic.” So that’s also why I wanted to talk to you about these predictions, because I’m thinking that if it really happens, we just need to be able to assess—I insist—the social consequences. And I hope we won’t see it. For me, it is always possible to cancel destinies. Otherwise, there’d be no point in me talking about it. It would be terrible to announce something unavoidable [predetermined]. I’m sure that together we can put our intelligence to work toward a different kind of project.
To do things differently. Just about that barrier—so you didn’t see what was happening on the other side. It separates two worlds? This world caught in technological control and the way of life you’ve been describing since the beginning of the show. One could imagine that a humanity is developing, living differently, on the other side of that barrier.
Yes, the "Alliance".
A bit like in major science fiction films.
Exactly. A great, great classic. And the Alliance decided that—whether we call them its citizens or, I don’t know, its data, its metrics, its participants, its players—would stay there, had no right to leave, and that no one from the outside would be allowed in… no individuals are let in from outside, because everything is controlled. We need to know in real time who is alive, who is dead, who is sick. In short, it’s truly a self-sufficient system, okay, but really, it seems calibrated down to the millimeter. There must not be any unadjusted variable entering that equation. And precisely, how do they get rid of those who are not welcome? Well, through sonic attacks, through free energy—so, in particular, if you do something very wrong… And this is something I saw, and when I was younger it really pushed me to look into cases of spontaneous combustion. Officially, they drain your bodily fluids to treat you, to check things, in short, to ensure optimal hydration. I think that something is added into the lymphatic fluid, and that’s what makes remote spontaneous combustion possible when those drones touch you. You can be wiped off the map, let’s put it that way. And even more obscene—something I’ve seen happen a few times and didn’t fully understand, so I have to share my own questions—there’s a kind of bomb, like a grenade, that’s clear physically, you can see it. And it creates something like a mini black hole. So I don’t know whether people are physically sucked into it “for real,” or whether it’s just the cognitive disturbance this weapon creates in observers, so that you have the impression the person folds in on themselves and disappears. So again, I don’t have all the answers, and it raises a lot of questions for me. If you ever hear about the development of this kind of weaponry, let me know, so we can together create a good petition or go demonstrate, I don’t know—but we don’t want that. And it’s true that everything is contained within this system of self-equivalence, like a kind of ark that is there to protect the last humans. But in fact, maybe life continues elsewhere, as you said—I don’t know. And the idea of “layered” life—I’m thinking of “Silo,” which I didn’t mention… we have Silo, we have… I don’t remember which… the second book or second series by Stephenie Meyer after her Twilight story. She did something like that, a bit sci-fi, about people living in underground bases. It somewhat resembles that imagery. So these are people living in societies that are partly underground. That’s also important, because in terms of everything we’ve seen being developed around these so-called mysterious zones—could they be testing grounds for society? I had mentioned my thoughts in particular regarding a special declassified document from Area 51 about its energy autonomy and established self-sufficiency. It makes me think—it really makes me think, especially in relation to these visions—because I wonder whether they aren’t in the process of prefiguring this kind of technology, this kind of framework. So, as you understand, in the hand there is something—I don’t know what—that gives you access to “Companion,” this sort of guardian angel. And apparently in the body as well, and I imagine through Companion too, you are identified within the system. That’s what separates the “free” world from the rest, which remains very mysterious to me, and it implies that you must be constantly connected to the “light” network, permanently—and everything can be changed continuously, without you having any say. I find that to be the most abject aspect of this dynamic. And I insist: there are people who experience kinds of recoding illnesses, a sort of cancer or something like that, or even sometimes pregnancies that were not declared and not anticipated, which apparently alter the expression or the way DNA is read by “light,” and they end up being pursued by drones. These are absolutely, absolutely horrifying scenes, I can tell you.
We understand: you must not step outside the framework in that society, otherwise you put yourself at odds and pay the price.
Exactly. And those are rare moments—if we can call them that—of social violence that lead to no form of protest. And that’s also something that unsettles me, because people are like: “oh, okay, they burned her. Alright! Well, I’m going back to have a coffee.” And cheerfully!
I feel like saying that on that point, there’s not much change. We look at what’s happening in the world today and the indifference we can collectively show—through our media, our reactions to tragedies happening all over the planet—and it just passes… like ordinary news.
And then here, these may be things where, in terms of information, we don’t really have the means to act—but I’m going to share an anecdote, excuse me, from my private life as a former nurse. I was extremely shocked because, having learned all the life-saving procedures, in the metro I felt somewhat responsible for all the homeless people having medical emergencies, and for anything horrible that could happen. And every time, I would talk about it to my colleagues because I had a heavy heart and needed to get it out—especially since the SAMU social [note : French emergency service that provides medical care and social support to homeless people] often brushed me off, and so we couldn’t pick them up. We had to just watch them die quietly in the metro. I’m sorry, I can’t do that—I’m not cut out for it. And people kept telling me, “Are you a jinx?” I’m sorry, I’m not a jinx. Now we understand this through cognitive biases—it’s called the “spotlight effect.” Everyone thinks, “Someone else will react.” But no—I mean, I’m sorry, I really saw people die in atrocious conditions, in front of witnesses. And I think to myself: I’m not… I’m not in India, I’m not… I don’t know where, in the middle of a war. At some point, you have to do something. And that’s really what I see again in this society: total emotional inertia, a lack of engagement, because if you disengage emotionally from joy and compliance, then you’re next. So I think that’s the threat… [A new illustration shows well-dressed characters]. Now this is a layer of society, on the other hand, that I don’t have access to. I only see them from the outside. These are people who truly have what are called dynastic privileges. They carry the most privileged DNA, and they have access to absolutely everything—research power… everything one could desire, know, or do. These are people who live in a closed system. However, their electrical brain signals are monitored in real time. It really reminded me of the story of the “Kuram,” which I had seen in my visions. That is to say, they verify in real time that it is indeed the right person, and then they condition them to remain the same person, with the same reasoning. And above all, they occupy their function and status for life—and even beyond, because it goes much further than that. These are people who are, in fact, reincarnated. I don’t know how to explain it. Well, they die of old age, or in an accident… then they are rebuilt, and so on. Which is, for me, a rather disturbing prospect, because it’s worse than confinement within confinement. It’s absolutely total.
They are rebuilt by cloning, through cloning?
I think so. I’ve never seen that place—the place where those famous bags come from, used afterward discreetly, and which are amniotic bags, presumably for creating children. We were talking about it earlier… Yes, I think so, clearly—they make physical clones, and above all psychological clones, which for me is the most disturbing element. That is to say, it has been decided that this is what the supreme status is.
We preserve something of ourselves, but it all seems a bit shaky, a bit dubious…
Totally!
…in the sense that consciousness cannot necessarily be preserved. We’re in transhumanism, in the ultimate goal of transhumanism.
And even we, over the course of a life, evolve and change. So how could we be the same person? From what point, from when, from what—none of that makes any sense. But it’s presented as the most sacred, or the most divine, or the most wonderful form of being human. That’s how it’s seen… and that’s the goal… if we could become that, then…
The elite…
Everyone would want to become those people, because they exist in a kind of emotional, material, and moral security that no one else can reach—and they eat real food. Most of the time, they are the ones who have a kind of unlimited credit for real food. So that’s also why everyone strongly desires them, because if you can have a connection with them, your credit increases significantly, and you gain access to more food resources, and so on. And they can move outside the barrier. That’s what really intrigues me, because officially it’s presented… because they have unrestricted access to “light.” They know everything, so they can go and preserve and heal the Earth. Thank you—that’s so kind, so generous! [laughter] So… thank you for healing us all! [ironic, laughter]
Okay!
So everything that is based on care and redemption—be careful. And everything called “light”—you’ve understood, you turn it off: “turn off the lights, this isn’t Versailles!” [laughter]
But wasn’t there… you know… that crop circle… with that message in Chilbolton, I think. It was “beware of the false light,” or “beware of false lights.” There was a message like that in one of the Chilbolton or Crabwood crop circles—I don’t remember which. Those are the two crop circles, you know, that depicted an extraterrestrial, a little grey with a disc, and then the other one, which was supposed to be a response to what we had sent into space—and there was… I don’t remember the exact message, but basically it was “beware of false lights” or something like that [note: “beware the bearers of false gifts and their broken promises”]. Maybe a reference to what is going to happen to us.
Let’s hope not. Let’s hope, for heaven’s sake, that I’m the only one seeing this and that none of this will ever happen. That is my dearest wish.
We’ll do everything we can to make sure it doesn’t—we’ll hold on to what humanity we need.
Exactly. And I think these projects—sorry, but let’s use the word—of eugenics are already well underway… because we have some examples reported by mainstream media. Which means we’re dealing with journalistic sources that have a duty to report—how to put it… they would lose their jobs if they started telling nonsense. It’s not that I revere journalists, it’s just to say they took risks, facing people who could have taken them down, to put it bluntly, and also risking losing their press accreditation, which amounts to social death. So in that context, we do find such cases—and there are hundreds—children born through surrogacy. In this case, officially, it’s not in tanks, or matrices, or “meat bags,” but they are being made—and above all, it must be known—this was a scandal that shook I don’t remember which Eastern country—we had the story, it must be about 20 years old now, of twins who had been modified to have resistance, to be immune to AIDS, and who incidentally—and apparently this was not planned—developed an IQ far higher than expected for children their age when they were presented to the world. They disappeared. I don’t know if you know this, but they disappeared after their existence was revealed. And what’s extraordinary is to imagine having managed to drop a bomb—let’s call it that—and then afterward saying, “oops, sorry, we lost track of them!” But what does that even mean? You’ve just explained to us that we have the first human beings resulting from a eugenics experiment, who may be—sorry, but technically—superior to me, to us, to everyone… No, you can’t tell me you lost them. That’s…
…you don’t lose that like a set of keys in a handbag!
But clearly—and I have to say this, I have to tell you what I think—what we’re seeing here is the beginning of this kind of project. Except that, in the visions I have of this future, it goes further. There are no children, or only a few attempts to have biological children. And each time, it’s viewed a bit like… today we’d say… like someone building their own Kerterre [eco-friendly housing made from natural materials] and growing heirloom tomatoes. It’s seen as “woo-woo.” “You shouldn’t do that—you’re really a nice little savage!” And in fact, why do they do this with children? Because they guarantee that they are healthy and without defects. And we understand it—that’s the objective in this controlled environment. Everyone has to be exactly what is expected of them. Nothing must change. And from that point on, even before the cradle, there is real-time monitoring, and thus maintenance of society. Which is… for me… once again, quite insane. And when you arrive, through all your genetic determinisms, you are given a social credit capital that is tied to your body. So yes, we are indeed talking about eugenics again.
Now, I want us all to pause together and have a good laugh, because honestly, what I’m telling you—I insist—is not a prediction I’m 100% certain about. Otherwise, I wouldn’t come here to talk about it, because I’d think, well, that means we can’t defuse it and it’s over. Look at what people were predicting in 2012. This was supposed to be the last human being as imagined in the 1920s press [Hanael shows a drawing of a sort of little gnome]. So there you go—that’s just to make us laugh a bit and remind ourselves that many predictions didn’t turn out right…
That was in the 1920s? So a century ago, people thought humans would end up looking like that.
Exactly. The last baby to be born was supposed to look like that.
You mentioned The Goonies earlier—yeah, Sloth was supposed to look like that at birth. But… well, most of us, no…
I don’t feel very close to that representation, so no, I’m fine, I’m fine. [laughter] So that’s to say—we can escape anything. Don’t see it as some kind of trap closing in on us—that’s still not the message. So the score these people have and receive at birth, and which evolves throughout life, is modulated based on your past behavior, your epigenetic determinants, and your gestational conditions, the social network you build—whether friendships, family, if that even exists, because in fact many people are not raised by families and do not have children. Some are raised in collective structures, like child-rearing camps. I don’t know how else to explain it, but I insist—they don’t suffer. There is “Companion.” “Companion” is always there. “Companion” has a more… I insist… more intimate relationship with you than you would have with your mother or with anyone else. And that’s also what makes it hard to form emotional or family bonds with anyone. You’re already fully satisfied. So why would you seek anything from someone else? And above all, this also determines access—you’re already conditioned—to certain neighborhoods. What’s crazy is that one affects the other. If you’re in a stressful neighborhood, then you’re stressed, so you’re rated poorly, so it feeds into itself. Sometimes I think there are people who can’t get out at all. If you’ve fallen too low, it can only get worse. So it really is a score that functions as a loop. The score is defined by constraints. Those constraints are based on human adaptation. Human adaptation produces new data, and that data creates a new score. It’s an endless feedback loop that never stops.
You’re trapped in it.
Exactly. So you understand that on one side there are people who have their privileges—the most ultimate privileges—and those who try to adapt as much as possible. So under this illusion of equality, what we really have is neo-feudalism, if that ever interests you. There’s an author, a former Greek minister of the economy, who wrote a remarkable book along those lines called Techno-féodalisme [by Cédric Durant]. I’m not saying I agree with everything he argues—I’m just saying that he identifies early signs that I hadn’t noticed myself. And at the time I was a child; now, with my adult perspective—even though I’m not an economics specialist—he anticipates societal developments of this kind and claims we’re clearly heading in that direction.
And you might ask, “So what’s left for all these people in that kind of context?” In terms of spirituality, it’s something I tried to warn you about in the previous program: it’s a spirituality oriented—so we understand—toward mandatory meditation and toward spiritual experiences that would fall under what’s called “out-of-body experiences.” People are made to leave their bodies, but in medical and supervised contexts. In fact, everything they experience there is exactly what they experience on television. It might even be a simulation of television. Maybe they’re made to believe they’re having OBEs, but maybe that’s not even what it is. Yet they are so emotionally invested in what they’ve experienced that they’re convinced they’re in the right place, doing the right thing.
You might find this a bit judgmental, but if, on the other side, something starts endorsing a social order or political decisions, honestly, ask yourself who you’re talking to—because it’s probably not the right entity on the other end of the line. That’s not really their concern. And that’s where I wonder—isn’t it, once again, some kind of “light” artifice? Are they really aiming for OBEs?—because they’re convinced that the other side, the afterlife, is telling them: “What you’re doing is great. You’re one of the chosen ones. You’re in the best possible system—keep going.” And then people come back saying, “It’s wonderful! I got the famous fax from the afterlife telling me ‘It’s all good.’”
Honestly, if your entire spirituality—and everyone around you—is based on this emotional experience, with no unifying narrative left—no myths, no legends, no reflection on bodies of texts—then I don’t really know what remains… because you can’t move forward anymore. You just know that you feel good, that you’re right, and that you should keep going. For me, that’s quite problematic, because there’s no room for intellectual contestation—it’s not an intellectual process. Everything is about feeling.
And when they have something to celebrate, we understand that “the Alliance” organizes festivals called “Eternal Spring.” And during this “Eternal Spring,” many people have these spiritual experiences, which reinforces and consolidates things—especially since they are sometimes shared collectively, so everyone saw the same thing and it was wonderful. I find that really striking. So as you’ve understood, this spirituality replaces religion. Religion—none. No shared framework of that kind. Instead, their credo is: “We’re all part of the current, and each of us is a ripple in the water, or a small whirlpool.” You see the idea… You can’t grab a whirlpool in water, you can’t put it in a bucket—it’s water. But if it moves within the current, you see it. It’s a vision that—okay, the natural metaphor is pretty—but it’s actually deeply nihilistic.
Basically, forgive me for putting it bluntly, but what’s the point of living? There’s no meaning—we’re just a pleasant little cog that laughs, has fun, and always says yes. It’s a celebration of passivity and a lack of emotional congruence. Those who’ve consulted me or attended “Clés ésotériques” may know this: congruence—the alignment or appropriateness—is one of the most fundamental pillars of our human nature. If you don’t know what it is, look it up—you’ll come away quite struck.
So as you’ve understood, this life is one of perpetual adaptation to what this kind of total-control societal algorithm expects of you. There’s no way to provide feedback or push back. It’s you adapting, constantly. A permanent challenge. Romantic love—you’ve understood—there are still a few traditional couples, inevitably, because humans are curious and dissenters exist, but in a very marginalized form. The highest form of dissent is having a couple relationship and biological children. That’s “extreme”! [ironic laughter] If that’s all we have left… well, it’s not much.
But you understand: single people have all their needs met. They have food, drink, shelter, they have fun, and there’s “Companion” who loves them forever. What more could they need? Romantic love has no value. And if they ever seek emotions, they can just take them from someone else—we’ve understood that—through those entertainment substitutes.
For me, once again, the question of being is at the heart of this society. And how could we teach our children—those very children—and I hope you’ll have many despite what I’m describing, I hope you’ll continue to have children and be happy in family life—what could we teach them to survive in such a world?
Good question—how do we prepare them for that?
I can’t leave you with something like this, if it were to come true word for word, and just say, “Oh well, it’ll be fine.” Honestly, if I had to give just one piece of advice to survive beyond 2055: know that one of the driving forces that makes me think we’ll stay on this timeline is that there will be a boom—and maybe it’s already happening, I’m not a specialist—in businesses focused on decontaminating so-called “eternal” materials. And alongside that, another major boom will be lead decontamination.
It’s something I feel we’ve all forgotten: we’re surrounded—especially with dishes and everything we use to bring things to our mouths—by lead. I’m not saying I’ve found the main cause of all autoimmune diseases and other issues, but I find it very suspicious that we point to certain causes when in fact the cause is right in front of us—literally on our plates. We are eating materials that are making us sick. And I’m not even talking about agricultural chemicals—just basic materials. If you have any doubt, get a lead testing kit. It costs €30 or €40 and lets you test all your dishes at home. That way you can check that everything you put in your mouth—mugs, plates—contains no traces of lead. It’s extremely important, because nothing is ever guaranteed, and I assure you there are many well-known brands selling highly contaminated products.
So yes, in terms of decontamination businesses, there’s clearly a future there. And there will also be a huge market for body detoxification—both for the mind, to reach that state compatible with “Light” and the ideology of “the Alliance,” and for the organic body. As I said, there will be a major boom in kidney diseases—already an issue, but becoming even more significant. These are signals—and, let’s be honest, business opportunities—we’re talking strategy here for children, helping them build careers that allow them to survive and live before everything shifts to a standard of “credits,” let’s call it that, a kind of “universal income.” I don’t think it’s really a salary, but everyone can interpret that as they wish.
So we’re in a corrective vision of the world—and that’s something I deeply regret. We’re always trying to “fix” things. Maybe something else should be considered. But I’m only a medium, as I’ve said before. The only ones who still have direct access to nature—and who might know what’s happening beyond the boundary—are the ultra-privileged. These elites may have other secrets I don’t know about. I would love to know more about their story and what they do, but I don’t have access to that.
Of course, you’ll probably think of it—you likely already know the highly acclaimed series Black Mirror, which is indeed a reference point. Why is it a reference? It’s important to remember: it’s a compilation of stories inspired by major foundational works of science fiction. So don’t think it’s just the work of genius screenwriters—they drew from ideas that existed long before and staged them brilliantly. But it didn’t come from nowhere. I recommend it—unless you’re sensitive, because there’s quite a bit of graphic violence. If the questions we’ve raised today resonate with you and you haven’t seen the series, take a look—but in the right frame of mind.
Likewise, Dark City—mentioned several times—a must, truly a must. Then Foundation on Apple TV, adapted from Asimov’s works, though I should say it has little or almost nothing to do with the original writings. You might even find storylines reminiscent of the book Le livre de Nuréa. I’ll just leave that there. Another topic I didn’t touch on is Soylent Green, with the idea of recycling people. That’s not at all what I saw, but it’s a classic you should watch if you haven’t. And of course, 12 Monkeys—again, a little masterpiece.
All the films and series I’ve mentioned throughout this conversation—that’s about 40 hours of viewing. So, 40 hours of great evenings ahead…
…And 40 hours if you string together all of Hanael’s shows, plus all the film recommendations—and really, excellent film recommendations. I’ve discovered quite a few thanks to you. I think you’ll have plenty to keep yourselves busy, both in terms of time and reflection, with films like the ones we mentioned earlier—without wanting to sound like old-timers who think they know better than everyone else—but films that made you think, that pushed you to… well, to develop a critical mind. 12 Monkeys, which you mentioned, is one of the cult films of my youth. Dark City—no need to say more! In short, nothing but great recommendations.
So yes, we often highlight books on Nuréa TV, but the seventh art also has its place in shaping our thinking, helping us step back and gain perspective on the world—and even more so on the world that may lie ahead in the coming decades, the one you’ve just described. Will it be exactly as you’ve described it? Good question. But in any case, all these works—art—can help us approach these ideas with some distance, with a more critical mindset, and I think that’s a good thing.
In any case, I hope this program has nourished your reflections, because I insist: I’m not here to tell you that, in a deterministic way, you won’t escape the control of private ecosystem cities, city-states, which seem to exist within a system called “the Alliance,” governed by a so-called “Light” technology. Okay—limited energy, all needs satisfied—but again, I insist: I don’t know what lies beyond that, and I don’t know whether it is good in itself. So we’ve questioned these societal developments from an ethical standpoint. And I insist: the future is like a garden in which you plant seeds. If what you plant is “empathy,” “mutual aid,” and “practical sense,” then perhaps we’ll diverge from that future where about 150 privileged individuals exploit 8 billion others under a hegemony of violence. So it’s up to all of us to reflect on how we want to shape that future.
And I want to clarify, for those who don’t know me at all as a medium: I insist, I don’t claim perfection. But among the things we’ve been able to verify—things that, in a sense, are indisputable… Of three small aircraft crashes I had predicted, due to mechanical failure—not pilot stress or anything like that—all three occurred over the past four years. And one person even kindly sent me a press clipping confirming the event. Each time, I insist, it’s not something I could have caused—because you know, that would be what’s called a self-fulfilling prophecy: I tell you you’ll fall down the stairs tomorrow, and if I repeat it convincingly enough, you’ll get so anxious that you actually fall…
…It would amplify the event.
Exactly. And here, it can’t be that, since we’re talking about technical failure, or a poorly done inspection—or one that was done, but carelessly. And each time, I told them, “I assure you…” and we were able, in a way, to avoid the terrible outcome I had seen—that is, a fatal crash—because they were psychologically prepared. People told themselves, “This is possible—Hanael described something like this,” and when the event happened, two of them told me it was as if everything slowed down, because they had the presence of mind to think, “Okay, this is it—what do I do?” And so they managed a much smoother landing. There were no deaths—otherwise I wouldn’t even talk about it, because that would be far too horrific—but they succeeded. It was just crumpled metal. That said, I guarantee there was material damage.
There was an insurance report to fill out. [laughter]
But yes—and I was so happy, because I thought: this is useful. It’s not just about telling you horrible things that can’t be avoided—because that would be a dreadful profession. You’d wonder, what’s the point? It would be cynical. But here, we see it can do some good, and I hope—and that’s the purpose of this show—that it can have the same effect. At least, that’s my wish.
I hope so too. Thank you for that touch of optimism, because what you’ve presented today—let’s call it what it is—it’s a dystopia. Some people… when we talk about dystopia, it means I’m judging this future you’ve described—not that you’re announcing it, but that you’ve glimpsed it—and yes, I allow myself to judge it, because I feel humanity gets lost in it, and many things that seem like fundamental human values are lost… even if we agree that today’s world isn’t perfect either.
I’d like to end by coming back to the timeline. What you’ve described does seem consistent with the evolution I’ve seen over the past 20 years—these notions of “engagement,” of needing recognition, of belonging… all that resonates. But I also feel like everything is accelerating, that our world is evolving faster and faster, and technology plays a big role in that. Still, I struggle to imagine this happening in 30, 40, or 50 years. It feels like a much more distant future—maybe 2100 or 2150. Yet here we’re talking about 2050.
Do you have something to say about that, Hanael?
It could be, because the key factor that really determines when all this happens—and I repeat, sorry if I’m repeating myself—is the declassification of all these secret technologies, which are already in our hands and perhaps already being used by certain people in a discretionary way. That’s what conditions the arrival of all these developments. And like the other examples I mentioned—like the satellite and the gastro issue—once those thresholds are crossed, the rest unfolds. For me, that’s what truly determines things. It’s when these technologies are openly acknowledged and affirmed. And what’s happening before the U.S. Congress, to me, clearly shows a will to bring about this future through revelation. I insist: it might sound like I’m condemning that revelation because it leads to everything else—but I’m not condemning it. I’m simply observing based on what I’ve seen. I’m not making a value judgment. That’s why it seemed important to share this with you. If I’ve seen correctly, and this is indeed what’s unfolding, and we move positively toward disclosure—then fine. “The revelation of joy”… but maybe not for everyone!
Hanael, thank you so, so much. Thank you for agreeing to come and share these visions. It’s not easy, because when you talk about predictions, you expose yourself to judgment—people might say, “She’s talking nonsense,” or “Yes, that’s exactly it.” I just want to emphasize that you have to stand firm to share things like this, and I thank you for it. I know you’ve described things as objectively as possible, even though everything you perceive is filtered through who you are—that’s important to remember. But thank you sincerely for sharing this, for having that courage. I hope the Nuréens will make good use of it. Take it as you wish. If you think this is completely unrealistic, that’s your right. You can judge the content—but not the intent. Because this is sharing, just as you’ve always done on Nuréa TV. It’s for you, the audience—to help you reflect, gain perspective, anticipate. It’s a gift. Do what you want with it. But Hanael, thank you again for all of this.
From the bottom of my heart, thank you to you, Guillaume, and to Nora for providing this space of expression that is Nuréa TV. And as you said—and I hope people understand the nuance—I didn’t deliver a sermon. I didn’t tell you, “This is certain, this will hit us and that’s it.” I’m telling you: I see it, I see it persistently, I’m concerned, and I would like us to find a more positive outcome together. I would be delighted to be wrong—that would be the greatest gift in the world. So don’t think Hanael wanted to scare you or make you depressed. Those who know me know that’s not my position at all. And thank you to all the listeners who stayed with us until the end of this program.
Let’s approach this future with a smile—but not a naive smile from people hypnotized by future technology—rather with optimism. A big thank you to all of you. Thank you as well for being here tonight for this broadcast. I’ll see you very soon on our channel. Take care of yourselves—and what I suggest is that we face this future with our feet firmly on the ground and our heads in the stars. See you soon. Bye!
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