Problems after vaccine - request for advice

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Several weeks ago my SO was pushed over in a scuffle, what resulted in her right thumb bent in, what left it sore for several days, plus she had a small, superficial skin wound on the thumb. Additionally, when she fell, somebody else fell and she had the lense of a camera rammed into her face, what left her with a deep cut on her left eyebrow of perhaps 3mm length and that one bled lots. Since this happened at a government place and during an official event, she was not allowed to leave but instead sent to the emergency unit as a matter of procedure. There, she was examined, had her hand x-rayed and was diagnosed with minor injuries, had her wounds disinfected and had her thumb wrapped in gauze. According to what my SO told me, at the end of the whole procedure, she was asked by a nurse if she wanted a tetanus vaccine, to what my SO answered NO. Nonetheless, in a moment of inattention, the nurse came through the group of people standing around my SO, said something like "one moment please" and rammed the syringe into my SO's left upper arm.


Since then my SO has had a hard swollen ball of like 5 cm diameter which receded and disappeared over about 10 days. At one moment, it looked like a giant bee sting with a distinctive swollen aureole of about 10cm diameter with slightly pink borders. There was a small reddish hole at the center which would build a hard scar but which always fell off - this center felt like a small ball inside to touch. Her hole arm hurt her for several days to the point where she was wincing all day long. During those initial 10 days, she complained of feeling extremely tired and sleepy at all times.


Now and since two days (last Friday), she is complaining of loss of control of her legs together with extreme pain on the upper legs, and she describes it as if she had rocks in her legs and as if her leg was "too tired to support her body", and it has the feeling that the pain emanated from her hip joints when she moves or turns, the pain apparently gives her a distinct feeling for the muscles on her upper legs. Her left leg at times breaks away and she has been moving around the house supporting herself on the furniture and the walls. She has been taking pain killers (naprobene and diclofenac) and that has helped her some with the pain but they zonk her out.


During the flu scare some years ago, an acquaintance in AZ who got vaccined wound up in hospital in coma for three months, so we (especially myself) don't trust doctors that much and I've dissuaded my SO from seeking medical treatment for now.


I'm posting this to ask if anybody could give me advice on what to do. Thanks in advance.


(Note: corrected some spelling errors)

Addition: I live in Austria, Europa.
 
name said:
I'm posting this to ask if anybody could give me advice on what to do. Thanks in advance.

What a bummer, name - and nothing less than an attack of violence against your SO.

I would consider contacting Russell Blaylock MD directly and ASAP. I know he recommends numerous protective measures before and directly after vaccination. One of them is lots of Vit D to help normalize the immune system response (like 10000IU at a pop).

Added: http://www.russellblaylockmd.com/
 
First of I would sue this nurse! :curse:
I'm sure she thought she was doing something good but nonetheless it was said "no" and she didn't respect that and just went ahead and injected...

What does "SO" mean? Your doughter?

What is the diet of your "SO"?

It sounds to me that "SO" might need a good and serious detoxication cure. Particularly against heavy metals? Just my impression though...
I think others here are better equipped to give you an advice...

Other then that, I think it would be important to go to several doctors with "SO" and get their oppinions on the matter and then report back here. Making sure they do not inject "SO" with another shot...
 
LQB said:
One of them is lots of Vit D to help normalize the immune system response (like 10000IU at a pop).

Also megadoses of vitamin C and either NAC or alpha lipoic acid (or both) to help detox.

Remember the C info from a review written by Sircus. It seems that complications after vaccinations were nearly zero when a person was taking vitamin C before and after.
 
Psyche said:
LQB said:
One of them is lots of Vit D to help normalize the immune system response (like 10000IU at a pop).

Also megadoses of vitamin C and either NAC or alpha lipoic acid (or both) to help detox.

Remember the C info from a review written by Sircus. It seems that complications after vaccinations were nearly zero when a person was taking vitamin C before and after.

Indeed, and maybe some Lipo-glutathione (available on amazon).
 
Thanks to all for your super-fast advice :)


SO indeed means Significant Other, the woman who shares bed and table with me - that for Pashalis, who like me is not a native speaker of English.


For now she's been relegated to bed with two hotties and a report on wild birds on teevee, what helps somewhat with the pain, and given 8000 IU of Vitamin D3 (she'll get some more later). She couldn't even sit in the last half hour because of the pain. I can't give her Vitamin C because she doesn't tolerate it.


Addition: I'll check about Lipo-glutathione, NAC and alpha lipoic acid and where/how to get it here. My experience is that pharmacists are mostly ignorant in such "alternative" things and I've even attracted stares for trying to buy too much (100g) magnesium citrate, and I once wandered 4 pharmacies until one was able (or willing) to sell me DMSO.
 
Some years ago I had to receive tetanus vaccine following a nasty chipmunk bite. It was a bad choice as at the time I haven't known as much as I know now about homeopathy and tetanus vaccine.

I remember having a swelling for couple of weeks and was low on energy for months after.
The symptoms your partner is describing seem to be quite common reaction to the vaccine.
I really dont understand these needle happy nurses who are so eager to give this vaccine after every little scratch. It is a well known fact that tetanus usually develops following deep stab wounds with very little bleeding and flushing of the wound therefore I cant understand why they give tetanus vaccine even after minor grazes.

In addition to vitamin C I would recommend homeopathic preparation of Ledum Palustre, 30c, 1 granule a day until the symptoms lessen or disappear for maximum of five doses. Improvement can happen after only one dose. This treatment applies only if your partner's pain is alleviated by application of cold.
 
It seems that complications after vaccinations were nearly zero when a person was taking vitamin C before and after.

The problem is that she did not probably use vitamin c before. The damage was already done and there could be consequences for the rest of her life. Only what you can do is minimize damage. Maybe it is also good to seek some professional help but it depends from doctor to doctor if he is conscious of real problem of vaccines, then he would probably prescribe vitamin shots. If he is not the things could get worse.

I remember when my father vaccinated against normal flu despite warnings I gave him, the same day his back started to hurt and he had trouble sleeping. This did last for few days but luckily it stopped and there were not any serious consequences.

First of I would sue this nurse! :curse:
I'm sure she thought she was doing something good but nonetheless it was said "no" and she didn't respect that and just went ahead and injected...

Maybe she forgot because from what I seen many have very mechanical approach, or maybe she did not forget and they have regulations by the government to use tetanus shots in every opportunity they got, because disinfection is enough for minor injuries. Nurse is the least one to blame in this story while the real culprits are pharmaceutical mafia and government. How many lives were ruined in the same way.
 
Hello "name",

Sorry to hear the history that your SO as gone through. It's really a bummer, even in a 5 seconds distraction we can allow something to enter and become a big annoyance in our lifes. A reminder that 'attack' comes from anywhere, anytime always in form of lessons.

About the health trouble: I don't know what the vaccine contained, but you might want to try searching about iodine paiting (painting iodine in affected areas) as iodine seems to bind to heavy metals in the body and take them out, and/or iodine suplementation. Always with the best protective diet (low carb, high animal fat) if its ok. Vitamin C should also help a lot as as been stated.

there is a good topic about iodine in the forum: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,13371.0.html and http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,13837.msg105036.html keep in mind that every one is different and what works for one might not work for another.
 
So sorry your partner is dealing with this. The symptoms of her vaccine reaction are very worrying and suggest some sort of nerve damage. Consider checking the description of Guillain-Barre syndrome:
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillain–Barré_syndrome#Treatment

if other symptoms check out and/or your partner continues getting worse, you might want to seek medical attention ASAP. Much as you may distrust (rightly) the hospitals right now, she may need treatment with immune modulators or steroids to get better without long-lasting damage.
 
Hi Name,

I'm sorry to hear you SO's reactions to the shot were so bad. You've gotten a lot of good advice to help her recovery. I hope she is open to it. Re the vit C. Has she tried the liposomal version? It is much kinder on the digestive system than large doses of the standard pills. She may find that this form is tolerable.

I wouldn't let the nurse or the emergency clinic get off so lightly. What are the guidelines in your area around "informed consent"? It appears your SO was very clear about not wanting the vaccine, and they went ahead and did it anyway, with serious consequences.

My .02? I'd be talking to a lawyer.
 
Hildegarda, herondancer,


we'll probably be presenting criminal charges.The law is very clear here: NO means NO, anything else is bodily injury. The problem is, they'll probably screw the nurse who I infer is acting under orders or what she "understands" is wanted by the doctors. This happened at the main hospital of the city. The doctors and the fact that the vaccines are poison in first place will of course be brushed under the rug. You don't stand a chance here against the medical profession before court, and it's not like we have money for a lawyer, or insurance protection. My fear is that as soon as we start talking that this is related to the vaccine, they'll brush it aside and start giving us the run-around and she'll end up worse, without the medical attention she needs, probably filled up with harmful medicines or even labeled a kook.


We were talking about this and remembered that last week we crossed street in fast stride (like often before) and she fell over flat with the cars coming in our direction while running, I had to grab her and drag her off the street. She said then that her legs "just failed her", we were both speechless. I am now relating that to this as she has never had any problems of coordination like this, she has been walking and running all her life. Right now she is limping.


I wouldn't know where to get "liposomal vitamin C", as the people in the pharmacies don't even understand that there is a difference between "vitamin C" and "ascorbic acid". For now I'll be giving her Vitamin D3. What we have here are small pills of 150mg in a big bottle, and ascorbic acid in powder form (that is what she doesn't tolerate) which I take with honey and water. My SO, who is not very open to anything outside school medicine despite experiences which sould teach her otherwise, wants to see how things develop and if it gets worse, she'll go to hospital tomorrow despite the distrust. I'll read up on Guillan-Barre and see what I can bring across to the treating doctors.


And, thanks a lot.
 
Hi Name,

Very sorry about SO and how she was treated and is reacting. As for "I wouldn't know where to get "liposomal vitamin C", Fwiw, it can be made relatively simply - have a read here:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,30416.0.html
 
name said:
We were talking about this and remembered that last week we crossed street in fast stride (like often before) and she fell over flat with the cars coming in our direction while running, I had to grab her and drag her off the street. She said then that her legs "just failed her", we were both speechless. I am now relating that to this as she has never had any problems of coordination like this, she has been walking and running all her life. Right now she is limping.

That sounds like a gradually worsening neurological condition. If the source of this condition is autoimmune, then it may explain the very sudden reaction to the vaccine. It may be very wise to act quickly to get the immune system toned down.
 
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