Putin orders Special Ops to "Find and Destroy" Iraq Kidnappers

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President's Putin adviser declared:

http://rian.ru/world/foreign_russia/20060704/50880800.html

"Russia will not stop behaving rationally and will not change its position concerning Iraq [...] We will continue doing what we can in order to stabilize the situation in Iraq".

In other words: we will continue not bothering our Big Brother with anything that he would find too inconvenient.
 
Keep in mind that Ark has a LOT of experience with Russian politics... a lifetime of it, you might say. Besides that, he reads all the Russian news and commentary in Russian...
 
Here we come to geopolitics, i think that i am interested in finding truth behind msm news more than in "hyping" my "russiaphilic" national feelings.
We have Russia, China, India, Middle East brought for discussion. Yesterday as Ryan posted this topic I took a book which bought some time ago but didn't start reading (i'm in the middle of SH - this book is an extremely slow read to me on contrary to HS). Book is by Sergei Pereslegin titled "Self-manual of playing on the world chessboard" isbn 5-17-027583-8 or 5-7921-0677-0 - recent (2005) and very decent system analysis of geopolitic realities and and perspective moves of key players till 2025. Ark, if you don't have this book, @ me, it's worth reading and analysis. Would it be permissible to post here an amateur translation of key moments of this book (would it violate copyrights?)
I didn't comment your third point about Russia don't opposing Israel and US poitics, as i completely agree with it and ask myself the same question as palestinian genoside by Israeli forces is evident, and I don't know why this question wasn't brought to UN security council by Russia or China time ago. When i was writing about Kissinger visits to Putin i was asking myself a question of whether Russian authorities are aware that Kissinger is on Interpol list by Chili and France for committing war crimes? Surely they are.
And one more point: if we have Russia, China, India, Middle East brought for discussion I think it would be worth to analyse Joe Vialls here, as he was publishing on Israel - Iran - Irak - Russia India and China tactical moves. Kenlee I believe wrote on Alex Jones thread that Vialls was on Department of State list as Cointelpro agent. The man is dead almost a year now, would it be worth to discuss him here? I don't know whether he was a Cointelpro, I'm seeing him as an outlet of russian intelligence leaking info and/or disinfo, but, yes, it was highly specific.
SAO, if Russia is run by psychopaths, that implies that Putin lkely IS one (if I understood you correctly). I don't see him as a psychopath, but I asknowledge that i'm ignorant in psychopathy analysis (my copy of Ponerology is under way) so i abstain from any commentaries of "Russia being run by psychopaths" until I grokk well psychopathy issue. Podcasts are very helpful here.
Ark, testing is perfectly ok with me, but please do it mindfully as your statement that "all areas (read: economy, military, cultural, social, transportation, educational, etc) of such countries as China, Russia and India are US-controlled from outside sways away even most corrupted logic, if any.
 
Its kind of weird that both Putin and Bush (Senior) have such strong links with their respective country's secret services. I'm sure they both know a lot more about what's going on in the world than they would ever want us to know. I wonder what 'hold' they have over Putin...
 
AHA, Ruth, and what joint (and top secret) US-USSR space exploration program was under way since 1960-th, which was mentioned by C's?
 
CarpeDiem said:
AHA, Ruth, and what joint (and top secret) US-USSR space exploration program was under way since 1960-th, which was mentioned by C's?
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I don't know. Which one was that?

I understand that there is actually 'one world government', especially at that level. Its the same 'smell' under a different name and in a different language.

During the 1960s, I believe the power of the USSR was at its peak and so was the 'space race'...
 
CarpeDiem said:
SAO, if Russia is run by psychopaths, that implies that Putin lkely IS one (if I understood you correctly). I don't see him as a psychopath, but I asknowledge that i'm ignorant in psychopathy analysis (my copy of Ponerology is under way) so i abstain from any commentaries of "Russia being run by psychopaths" until I grokk well psychopathy issue. Podcasts are very helpful here.
Ark, testing is perfectly ok with me, but please do it mindfully as your statement that "all areas (read: economy, military, cultural, social, transportation, educational, etc) of such countries as China, Russia and India are US-controlled from outside sways away even most corrupted logic, if any.
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Putin was able to bring Russia to such a state that almost nobody there is caring for the truth anymore. Corruption and money, money and corruption. US war crimes? Who cares. Our politicians, let them do their geopolitics, and we will take care about too many blinkers on cars of officials. Who cares about Iraq, Palestine? We have problems with Ukraine and Georgia.....

As for scratching test, you are not doing very well, as you are twisting my words. The question was:

-Could you please specify your point: in what areas do India, Russia and China each depend on USA? Ark: All areas.

Now you have twisted "depend" into "US-controlled from outside". For instance I depend on the air to breath, but I am not controlled by the air. Do you see the difference?

I wonder why this twist? For what reason you read one thing and you understand completely different thing. Unless subconsciously you believe (or even know) that there is US-control from outside?
 
CarpeDiem said:
SAO, if Russia is run by psychopaths, that implies that Putin lkely IS one (if I understood you correctly). I don't see him as a psychopath, but I asknowledge that i'm ignorant in psychopathy analysis (my copy of Ponerology is under way) so i abstain from any commentaries of "Russia being run by psychopaths" until I grokk well psychopathy issue. Podcasts are very helpful here.
Ark, testing is perfectly ok with me, but please do it mindfully as your statement that "all areas (read: economy, military, cultural, social, transportation, educational, etc) of such countries as China, Russia and India are US-controlled from outside sways away even most corrupted logic, if any.
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Putin was able to bring Russia to such a state that almost nobody there is caring for the truth anymore. Corruption and money, money and corruption. US war crimes? Who cares. Our politicians, let them do their geopolitics, and we will take care about too many blinkers on cars of officials. Who cares about Iraq, Palestine? We have problems with Ukraine and Georgia.....

As for scratching test, you are not doing very well, as you are twisting my words. The question was:

-Could you please specify your point: in what areas do India, Russia and China each depend on USA? Ark: All areas.

Now you have twisted "depend" into "US-controlled from outside". For instance I depend on the air to breath, but I am not controlled by the air. Do you see the difference?

I wonder why this twist? For what reason you read one thing and you understand completely different thing. Unless subconsciously you believe (or even know) that there is US-control from outside?
Noe, the analyst in the article I quoted before wrote: there were no political killings in Russia since long time. All killing wre for money. Now, tell me, as you know the situation from a close distance: was he joking? Or is politics and money are so inseparable now in Russia?

Next thing: Putin has effectively destroyed science in Russia. Or let it be destroyed. It does not compute with any "geopolitics" unless he did it on purpose.
 
Interesting that Putin calls (via his ministry of Foreign Affairs) the recent successful launch of the North Korean long range missile a "provocation". Provocation it certainly is, but for the USA! Why can't Russia have a frienly relationship with NK? Because the USA would not like it?

Source: http://www.rosbalt.ru/2006/07/05/259067.html?#main

If we are to believe the Russian news, NK has outsmarted the USA who was promising to destroy the long range missiles. They have launched five middle range missiles and one long range missile in short time intervals - and they did it while the USA was celebrating the 4th of July. (according to some sources, however, the long range missile malfunctioned. It is not known what was the reason of this malfunction. Lacking the data, various speculations are possible here.)

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A couple of things about Russia and Putin. All imperial powers have an alliance with their own "mafia." To oversimplify matters, the U.S. has the Sicilian mafia, France has the Corsican mob, etc. Now Russia, you would think, has the "Russian Mafia." The problem for Putin is that Russia shares the Russian Mafia with Israel! The Russian mob is fully behind Israel. It belongs more to Israel than to Russia. This puts Putin in a difficult position. He will never oppose the U.S./Israel alliance directly and fully because of this. So, for the moment, Israel has both the U.S. and Russia over a barrel.

He does have some cards to play when it comes to defending incursions by the U.S. into previously agreed-upon Russian sphere of influence. He also managed to get his oil out of the hands of the US/Israel alliance by nationalizing that company and jailing it's oligarchical founder (forgot his name).

Also, OF COURSE Putin is a psychopath. He rose through the ranks of the KGB. Being a pychopath is a pre-requisite for really joining any intelligence service.

As for me, the idea that Russia would confront the U.S. in Iraq was not at all wishful thinking. Open conflict between Russia and the U.S. would be a disaster for the world. That's why the world was stable and more peaceful during the long U.S./Russia alliance of the Cold War (yes, you read that right, they were really allies playing at being enemies, IMO).
 
So he also have government's agreement now
(link is in Russian)
http://www.lenta.ru/news/2006/07/05/allow/

Part translated:

"Duma RF accepted law, which makes possible for the President RF to use armed forces and special services beyond the limits of Russia for dealing with international terrorism."

And now, take a look at the faces of those dead diplomats
http://img.lenta.ru/news/2006/06/27/lavrov1/picture.jpg
It maybe a very big assamption, and maybe I truly do not understand a thing in this area (I don't!)
but they do not look like a diplomats to me (not the "regular" type anyway). They look exactly like those "special forces" Putin now have a permission to use. Maybe it was an unsuccessful operation and he found a way to deal with it.
 
It seems that Putin is reading this exchange :)

According to the latest news:

http://www.echo.msk.ru/news/321085.html

Russia was speaking against sanctions against North Korea that were called for at the closed session of the UN Security Council today.
So chances are that I was wrong and CarpeDiem was right! ;)
 
ark said:
According to the latest news:
http://www.echo.msk.ru/news/321085.html
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I was not able to reach this link. I even tried: http://www.echo.msk.ru and my browser just hangs.

Just testing to see if I am being blocked by someone (ISP, NSA, ???) in USA... just being a bit paranoid. :-)

Dan
 
dant said:
ark said:
According to the latest news:
http://www.echo.msk.ru/news/321085.html
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I was not able to reach this link. I even tried: http://www.echo.msk.ru and my browser just hangs.

Just testing to see if I am being blocked by someone (ISP, NSA, ???) in USA... just being a bit paranoid. :-)

Dan
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Works fine for me Dan. I'm in the US also. But the website is all in Russian, so you might not be able to read it anyway.
 
Link http://www.echo.msk.ru/news/321085.html works, it's about Russia opposing UN sanctions against NK during today's UN security council closed meeting.
Just listened on news Putin harshly criticized double standards of western democracies in their "war on terror" policies.
Ark, before I answer, could control be partial? Or if it's partial, it ceases to be named as control? What is your opinion?
 
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