Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

This is an excerpt from a lengthy interview with Alexander Van der Bellen, who became the Austrian President in 2017.

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(Q): How do you assess Europe's dealings with Russia?

I think that if I had spoken out publicly about this, I would have been defamed as a Putinversteher. I find it scandalous how almost the entire European press, with Austria no exception does not even try to understand Russian positions.

Crimea was never Ukrainian, except for the last 50 years. Khrushchev annexed the peninsula to Ukraine at that time for inexplicable reasons. If there is an indigenous population there, it is the Tatars, certainly not the Ukrainians. Another important point is Russia's military-strategic position.

When the Iron Curtain fell in 1989 and the reunification of Germany was imminent, Russia was assured that the NATO border would not be moved further east. This is according to U.S. sources. But the Russians had the misfortune that this was never agreed to in writing. So what happened?

NATO's eastern border now runs right along the borders with Russia. I can understand that this causes a frown in Russia.
If you go back 200 years, where did all the invaders come from? All of them through Ukraine.

So I am very upset when it is said that there is no military danger from Ukraine. Yes, of course, not from Ukraine itself, but that it is a strategic shield for Russia is clear.

How has the U.S. reacted in the last 100 years when a potential threat arose on its doorstep? They didn't care about international law either. There's a double standard here. Regardless of all these factors, the Ukraine problem is solvable. But there seems to be no good will on either side.


There is a snag, though...

Mr. Van der Bellen gave the interview in March 2015 probably before he even began thinking of running for president.
The German politician has only 2 ways: either a successful cuckold or a rotten Putinversteher. Few people talk about national interests anymore. Ovsyannikova, who escaped from Russia, is trying to shut up Sarah Wagenknecht. I feel so ashamed! Putin pays Wagenknecht! God, it's just ... Shit is running from Russia, carrying all sorts of nonsense on German TV shows, but I'm ashamed!
 
China issued a document on 24 Feb 2023, here's the official text :

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China’s Position on the Political Settlement of the Ukraine Crisis​


2023-02-24 09:00

1. Respecting the sovereignty of all countries. Universally recognized international law, including the purposes and principles of the United Nations Charter, must be strictly observed. The sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of all countries must be effectively upheld. All countries, big or small, strong or weak, rich or poor, are equal members of the international community. All parties should jointly uphold the basic norms governing international relations and defend international fairness and justice. Equal and uniform application of international law should be promoted, while double standards must be rejected.
2. Abandoning the Cold War mentality. The security of a country should not be pursued at the expense of others. The security of a region should not be achieved by strengthening or expanding military blocs. The legitimate security interests and concerns of all countries must be taken seriously and addressed properly. There is no simple solution to a complex issue. All parties should, following the vision of common, comprehensive, cooperative and sustainable security and bearing in mind the long-term peace and stability of the world, help forge a balanced, effective and sustainable European security architecture. All parties should oppose the pursuit of one’s own security at the cost of others’ security, prevent bloc confrontation, and work together for peace and stability on the Eurasian Continent.
3. Ceasing hostilities. Conflict and war benefit no one. All parties must stay rational and exercise restraint, avoid fanning the flames and aggravating tensions, and prevent the crisis from deteriorating further or even spiraling out of control. All parties should support Russia and Ukraine in working in the same direction and resuming direct dialogue as quickly as possible, so as to gradually deescalate the situation and ultimately reach a comprehensive ceasefire.
4. Resuming peace talks. Dialogue and negotiation are the only viable solution to the Ukraine crisis. All efforts conducive to the peaceful settlement of the crisis must be encouraged and supported. The international community should stay committed to the right approach of promoting talks for peace, help parties to the conflict open the door to a political settlement as soon as possible, and create conditions and platforms for the resumption of negotiation. China will continue to play a constructive role in this regard.
5. Resolving the humanitarian crisis. All measures conducive to easing the humanitarian crisis must be encouraged and supported. Humanitarian operations should follow the principles of neutrality and impartiality, and humanitarian issues should not be politicized. The safety of civilians must be effectively protected, and humanitarian corridors should be set up for the evacuation of civilians from conflict zones. Efforts are needed to increase humanitarian assistance to relevant areas, improve humanitarian conditions, and provide rapid, safe and unimpeded humanitarian access, with a view to preventing a humanitarian crisis on a larger scale. The UN should be supported in playing a coordinating role in channeling humanitarian aid to conflict zones.
6. Protecting civilians and prisoners of war (POWs). Parties to the conflict should strictly abide by international humanitarian law, avoid attacking civilians or civilian facilities, protect women, children and other victims of the conflict, and respect the basic rights of POWs. China supports the exchange of POWs between Russia and Ukraine, and calls on all parties to create more favorable conditions for this purpose.
7. Keeping nuclear power plants safe. China opposes armed attacks against nuclear power plants or other peaceful nuclear facilities, and calls on all parties to comply with international law including the Convention on Nuclear Safety (CNS) and resolutely avoid man-made nuclear accidents. China supports the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in playing a constructive role in promoting the safety and security of peaceful nuclear facilities.
8. Reducing strategic risks. Nuclear weapons must not be used and nuclear wars must not be fought. The threat or use of nuclear weapons should be opposed. Nuclear proliferation must be prevented and nuclear crisis avoided. China opposes the research, development and use of chemical and biological weapons by any country under any circumstances.
9. Facilitating grain exports. All parties need to implement the Black Sea Grain Initiative signed by Russia, Türkiye, Ukraine and the UN fully and effectively in a balanced manner, and support the UN in playing an important role in this regard. The cooperation initiative on global food security proposed by China provides a feasible solution to the global food crisis.
10. Stopping unilateral sanctions. Unilateral sanctions and maximum pressure cannot solve the issue; they only create new problems. China opposes unilateral sanctions unauthorized by the UN Security Council. Relevant countries should stop abusing unilateral sanctions and “long-arm jurisdiction” against other countries, so as to do their share in deescalating the Ukraine crisis and create conditions for developing countries to grow their economies and better the lives of their people.
11. Keeping industrial and supply chains stable. All parties should earnestly maintain the existing world economic system and oppose using the world economy as a tool or weapon for political purposes. Joint efforts are needed to mitigate the spillovers of the crisis and prevent it from disrupting international cooperation in energy, finance, food trade and transportation and undermining the global economic recovery.
12. Promoting post-conflict reconstruction. The international community needs to take measures to support post-conflict reconstruction in conflict zones. China stands ready to provide assistance and play a constructive role in this endeavor.

The US stance until these days, examplified by the NYTimes, 23 Feb 2023 :
(me : alphabet soup is boiling, when will it be cooked ??)

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How the U.S. Adopted a New Intelligence Playbook to Expose Russia’s War Plans​

Bolder disclosures are part of a larger effort to stymie the Kremlin’s offensive in Ukraine and align support for Kyiv’s war effort in allied countries.

WASHINGTON — A year ago, the United States did something extraordinary — it released previously classified intelligence that exposed Russia’s plans to invade Ukraine.
Last week, Antony J. Blinken, the secretary of state, made a similar move when he warned China’s top foreign policy official, Wang Yi, against providing weapons to Russia.
In a previous era, the warning might have remained private, at least for some time. But a new intelligence playbook honed just before and during the war in Ukraine has redefined how the United States uses its classified knowledge to undercut Russia and its partners.
The playbook is not just about naming and shaming Russia and its allies; it has become a powerful tool in the United States’ arsenal to try to stymie the Kremlin’s offensive by exposing Russia’s military plans and in aligning support for Kyiv’s war effort in allied capitals.

Ahead of Mr. Blinken’s meeting with Mr. Wang, the United States disclosed to allies intelligence normally held in tight secrecy. It included details about the ammunition and other weaponry China was considering providing Russia. Then Mr. Blinken shared the broad conclusion that China was considering giving military support to Russia publicly.

“For the most part, China has been engaged in providing rhetorical, political, diplomatic support to Russia, but we have information that gives us concern that they are considering providing lethal support to Russia in the war against Ukraine,” Mr. Blinken told ABC News.

“And it was important for me to share very clearly with Wang Yi that this would be a serious problem.”

The disclosure by Mr. Blinken was driven at least in part by the U.S. belief that public warnings and the declassification of additional intelligence about internal Chinese deliberations could still deter Beijing from delivering to Russia weapon systems to aid Moscow’s military campaign.

Some American officials insist that unlike Iran or North Korea — countries whose military support for Russia has been disclosed by U.S. officials — China cares about its international reputation. Because of its trade ties with Europe and the United States, which North Korea and Iran do not have, Beijing may be less willing to risk sanctions over weapon sales.

The effort to declassify intelligence to expose Russia began just over a year ago when the Biden administration was trying to convince some skeptical allies in Europe that Russia was poised to invade Ukraine. The administration’s new intelligence sharing strategy did not stop the Russian invasion, but it succeeded in revealing Russian plans and aligning major Western powers behind measures to isolate Russia economically and diplomatically.

“It’s not a natural thing to share intelligence beyond a handful of our most trusted allies, but we knew that this effort was going to have to be broader and deeper than we had ever done before,” said Jon Finer, the deputy national security adviser.
The shift toward disclosures is driven in part by lessons of the past, and startling technological changes that have made more information about wartime activities accessible than ever before, something intelligence officials say allows them to release more information without endangering secret sources.
The strategy is also, in part, a product of past intelligence failures. Some failures, most infamously over claims of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, still color how Europeans view American spy agencies two decades later. Those doubts forced the United States and Britain to share more about what they knew about Russian capabilities and intentions to try to stave off European skepticism.
Now, according to some diplomats, when those two allies declassify and release intelligence, it is more readily believed by allies in Europe who were previously uncertain of U.S. and British intelligence on Russia’s war plans.

“Even though Russia was not deterred by the release of the intelligence information, what was achieved was that everybody was on the same sheet of music when the war started,” said Kaupo Rosin, the director general of the Estonian Foreign Intelligence Service, which has also released declassified information.

The U.S. release of intelligence has focused on various countries’ support for Russia’s war. In addition to the warning about China, the White House disclosed plans for Iranian trainers, missiles and drones to join the battlefield in Ukraine. And it shared information about North Korean artillery ammunition going to resupply Russia.

The disclosures laid the groundwork for new sanctions by the U.S. and Europe on Iranian drone makers. More information releases are likely, officials said, whenever Russia is close to striking a deal for new weaponry. In addition to calling out countries who are considering supporting Russia, the United States plans to release information on Moscow’s battle plans and preparations, much as officials did in the months before the invasion.

The aim would be to call out Russia’s efforts to step up or expand its offensive in the east or south of Ukraine, said U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity. Such a disclosure, which would take away the element of surprise, could help Ukraine prepare and galvanize a European response — either through additional economic steps or increased military assistance to Ukraine.

Still, there are more limits now than a year ago. Ahead of the invasion, the United States was trying to prod Ukraine to take the threat of invasion more seriously. Now Ukraine is fighting with all its might, and U.S. officials say they want to make sure any disclosure of Russian movements or operational plans aids Ukraine’s efforts to defend itself, not complicate them.

Part of the reason the U.S. government can disclose Moscow’s war plans is because Washington-based think tanks, like the Institute for the Study of War or the Russia Studies program at CNA, are scrutinizing various threads of information to examine Russia’s movements.

The surge of such open-source information, which includes images from commercial satellites as well as reports from Russian bloggers, social media posts analyzing weapons found in Ukraine and other information, has enabled the intelligence community to make more disclosures, officials said.
Many declassifications have come when the intelligence community can find open-source information that allows analysts to draw similar conclusions. U.S. officials say they are not aware of any sensitive sources of information that have been lost as a result of the releases — at least so far.
In 2014, after Russia seized Crimea, the Obama administration took a more cautious approach when it came to sharing intelligence — then about Russian activities in the Donbas region of Ukraine — with skeptical European allies, a decision that some officials came to see as a mistake because it made it easier for Moscow to sow divisions in the West.

“Obviously, Biden administration officials have learned from that firsthand experience that most of them had as part of the Obama administration,” said Evelyn Farkas, the top Pentagon official for Ukraine during the Obama years. “You can’t convince people to go along with your policies if they are suspicious about what those policies are based on.”
In the fall of 2021, many of the officials who were involved in Obama administration decisions on intelligence sharing were back in power, and they faced a similar dilemma.
At first, they were somewhat unconvinced of the dire predictions of U.S. intelligence agencies about a possible Russian invasion.

But as they were presented with more evidence, Jake Sullivan, who served as Mr. Biden’s national security adviser when he was vice president, and Mr. Finer, his deputy, came to the conclusion that the Biden administration should not allow a repeat of 2014, and needed to find a way to prevent Russia from dividing the West and catching the world by surprise.
Mr. Biden agreed and directed that U.S. intelligence about Russia’s war plans be declassified so it could be shared with a broad group of allies.
“He turned to us in the intelligence community and said, ‘You’ve got to share,’” Avril D. Haines, the director of national intelligence, recalled in a speech last week. “‘You have to get out there and start sharing because we’ve got to help them see what you’re seeing.’”
In contrast to 2014, when U.S. officials were largely caught off guard by Russia’s lightning seizure of Crimea, intelligence agencies saw the 2022 invasion coming. As a result, Biden administration officials knew they had weeks, if not months, to lay the groundwork with reluctant allies and to pre-empt Moscow by exposing its plans.

“There were really strong arguments for going one step further and actually downgrading and declassifying some information so that we can also start to prepare the public landscape,” Mr. Finer said.
U.S. intelligence agencies are generally reluctant to share their secrets, but they agreed to do so after taking steps to ensure that the disclosures would not expose their most valuable sources.
The new playbook appears to be here to stay: Biden administration officials say they will continue to disclose sensitive information when it is in America’s strategic interest. But that does not mean the administration and intelligence officials will always agree on what to release.

In a talk at the Munich Security Conference, William J. Burns, the C.I.A. director, said the decisions to release intelligence had an important impact on the course of the war. But he said intelligence should be released only after an evaluation of the potential benefits and risks of each disclosure.

“As I’ve learned over many years, the surest way to lose sources of good intelligence is to be reckless in your handling of them,” Mr. Burns said. “There’s always a temptation to think that anything worth doing is worth overdoing. So in this case, I think we have to be careful and case-by-case.”
 
Is it just me or do you also think that it isn‘t the best sign for the world that only 6 countries were against condemning Russia in the latest unbinding UN "Resolution"?

Namely:

Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, Mali, Nicaragua and Syria

How come that no one else has the guts and backbones to do so? Yes, sure, I get that it is quite a bit more complicated in cases like China, India, Iran etc., in the sense of them probably strategically thinking/acting and so on. But on the other hand, surely those 6 countries that support Russia face the same dangers as China and co. when they vote for Russia (serious backlash from the empire), and yet, they are much more vulnerable than China and the others (who are also much more powerful). Yet those 6 "tiny" and quite "insignificant" countries such as Mali vote for Russia nonetheless.

I don't know, but this paints a pretty bleak and sad picture to me. Embarrassing for humanity, actually. Also, the saying "with friends like this you don't need enemies" comes to mind.

I mean, you can hardly expect a better opportunity than now, to at least try to loosen your shackles, with a huge and important power such as Russia fighting on the front line with such an exceptional leadership. And yet, still so many countries don’t follow Russia's lead and at least take the risk of doing the right thing, even though it might bring difficult consequences. I don't think you can get a better opportunity to do the right thing. And yet, most countries don't take up that opportunity. Or so it seems.

A sad state of affairs to me, to put it mildly. Thinking about it, I'm sure Putin and co are aware of that and that is why they (if you have followed what they said and implemented closely) make a point about becoming completely independent, so much so that Russia could more or less survive and thrive on its own, even without China, India etc.
 
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Gotta love this peak idiocracy:
German state broadcast "fact checker" mistranslated (from Hersh's north stream article) the words "[they would] plant shaped C4 charges" as *drumroll* "Explosives in the form of plants" 🤣

Then they wrote an article titled "More inconsistencies in the Hersh report", subtitle: "Explosives in plant-form unlikely". They even asked an expert if it was possible to put C4 explosives in the form of plant dummies on pipelines! Which, of course, the expert denied. You see, the expert said, the pipeline was finished only recently so there were not many plants! But camouflaged C4 would at least look like a thick tree root. Impossible! This Hersh guy is full of it!

This is not even cope anymore, this is another dimension!

Eugyppius is on it too, this is just too funny:

 
Gotta love this peak idiocracy:
Cool! And how do you like that?
Ukrainians use salt to draw crosses on the ground to "protect themselves from Russian missiles"

Today, on February 24, Ukraine is waiting for a massive offensive of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation or, at least, a missile strike "dedicated" to the anniversary of the beginning of its. The reason for the panic that is observed on the territory of our "western neighbor" were numerous statements by Kiev politicians and various "military experts".

It is worth noting that the latter in their judgments are based not on objective information received from intelligence, but on the "sacredness" of today's date.

At the same time, the "psychological treatment" obviously had its effect. Educational institutions in many cities of Ukraine have been switched to remote work mode.

However, this is not all. The citizens of Ukraine apparently no longer trust the air defense forces and decided to defend themselves from the missile attack promised by the authorities on their own. At the same time, they chose a very non-trivial method.

So, a number of TG channels publish photos from Khmelnitsky, on the territory of which military facilities were hit last time. The pictures show white crosses depicted directly on the ground.

The report says that Ukrainians use salt to draw crosses on the ground to protect themselves from Russian missiles. But, most importantly, this strange action in every sense even has coordinators.

Instructions to their compatriots are distributed by the owners of the channel in one of the messengers, who even developed an algorithm for carrying out these useless actions.

So, according to the text of one of the messages, Ukrainians need to buy several packs of salt. One cross will require at least half a pack, since it must be large. You need to draw only on the ground (not on asphalt, paving stones, etc.) and only after the command that will be given in the aforementioned group.

Finally, the "cherry on the cake". The authors of the "defense strategy" emphasize that it would be extremely useful to draw salt crosses in military units as well.

The last statement suggests that these crosses may not be a protection, but a kind of "mark". Especially considering their size. After all, one such drawing should take "strictly half a pack of salt" and no less.

In general, all this resembles a "theater of the absurd". However, in recent years, something else has happened on the territory of our "western neighbor".
Украинцы солью рисуют на земле кресты, чтобы «защититься от российских ракет»
 
Berkhovka near Artemovsk is littered with the corpses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine: the village came under the control of the Wagner PMCs in the morning
The settlement of Berkhovka near Artemovsk is littered with the corpses of "horsemen".

Earlier, Russian Spring reported that the village came under the control of the Wagner PMCs in the morning.

As a result of heavy fighting, the enemy could not withstand the onslaught of assault detachments and fled, suffering significant losses, the Telegram channel "Call Sign Bruce" reports.

Now the "Wagnerians" continue to break through the defense of the APU in neighboring Yagodnoye.
https://rusvesna.su/news/1677247692

And this is a year ago
The secret of the brutal battle in Sumy has been revealed: the APU destroyed its soldiers and equipment for days (PHOTOS, VIDEO)
24.02.2023 - 19:40

The secret of the brutal battle in Sumy has been revealed: the APU destroyed its soldiers and equipment for days.

A year ago, the Artillery School in Sumy was fighting from morning to night with breaks, it was difficult to understand from the personnel whose equipment was on fire, now it turned out that the Armed Forces of Ukraine were fighting with themselves, the equipment of the 81st aeromogilny brigade was destroyed.

Now Ukrainian resources are writing:

"24.02.22 the first fight in the city of Sumy. The equipment of the 81st separate Airmobile Brigade was destroyed as a result of friendly fire."
https://rusvesna.su/news/1677255948
 
German state broadcast "fact checker" mistranslated (from Hersh's north stream article) the words "[they would] plant shaped C4 charges" as *drumroll* "Explosives in the form of plants" 🤣
Do they have a sense of self-irony. What would you do is you were paid to fact-check something where the expected result was given, but you still wanted people to get an idea. Make it ridiculous, so people would talk about it, might be one way.

Regarding abstentions in UN vote
Is it just me or do you also think that it isn‘t the best sign for the world that only 6 countries were against condemning Russia in the latest unbinding UN "Resolution"?

Namely:

Belarus, North Korea, Eritrea, Mali, Nicaragua and Syria
Among the BRICS, only Brazil voted in favour of the resolution, which might connect back to;
Session 14 January 2023:
Q: (Alejo) Is Lula, from Brazil, a useful idiot? Or is he in on the globalist agenda?

A: He is now initiated.
Afghanistan was also in favour. [So much for the US having left!] Serbia also did, etc.

However, not only did South Africa abstain, so did neighbouring countries like Zimbabwe, Namibia, Mozambique, and a little further away Angola; that is most of Southern Africa.
 
I'm slightly more optimistic, because there are 32 countries that at least abstained.

Also, a few countries were not present at the vote or so it seems, countries like Venezuela, Burkina Faso and Senegal or their votes weren't processed?


Yeah, and I don't think we should take one UN vote to be the only measure of resistance to Team America World Police. In the economic realm outside of the sacred halls of UN, there's BRICS+, the SCO, EAEU, NSTC, BRI, and all the other projects and groupings that look like they're are moving along just fine.
Do they have a sense of self-irony. What would you do is you were paid to fact-check something where the expected result was given, but you still wanted people to get an idea. Make it ridiculous, so people would talk about it, might be one way.

Regarding abstentions in UN vote

Among the BRICS, only Brazil voted in favour of the resolution, which might connect back to;
Session 14 January 2023:

Afghanistan was also in favour. [So much for the US having left!] Serbia also did, etc.

However, not only did South Africa abstain, so did neighbouring countries like Zimbabwe, Namibia, Mozambique, and a little further away Angola; that is most of Southern Africa.

Africa is looking to be hosting quite the struggle over influence in the future.


In the below article, Korybko makes a good point - without securing their sovereignty, African nations have no chance in benefitting from the BRI. If they try, they know that colour revolutions lie in wait, especially with Nuland prowling around the continent, smacking her lips. That might explain the UN vote, too - many are biding their time, with a broader aim of partnering with Russia.

Russia has broken the bully's spell on the schoolyard, and proven their outstanding capabilities and good intentions. But the bully is even more dangerous now that he's not getting his way, and would be liable to lash out at anyone who sticks their neck out too far. So it may be that African nations - those who have some capacity for self-determination and who aren't already ponerized - will seek to obtain critical training in security issues with Russia, and then once they've become more resilient from CIA shenanigans, can go into a fuller partnership with China.

 

China slams NATO, warns of ‘confrontation and crisis’ ahead


Excerpts:

"If such Cold War mentality lingers on and goes unchecked, confrontation and crisis will be what the future holds in store for us all.”

"US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen threatened on Thursday that Beijing would face “serious consequences” if it helps Russia evade Washington’s sanctions or provides aid to Moscow."

"The world will continue to be beset by wars and geopolitical turmoil as long as NATO keeps behaving as if it’s still fighting the Cold War"

“Clinging to the Cold War mentality leads to antagonism and confrontation,” ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin told reporters

Earlier on Friday, the ministry released a 12-point plan for bringing an end to the fighting – a roadmap that NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg dismissed as lacking in “credibility” because China has maintained its close ties with Russia.

"The Western military bloc “even constantly seeks to reach beyond its traditional defense zone and scope and stoke tensions and create troubles in the Asia-Pacific,” he said."

Wang said that “we would like to say to the US ambassador that strong-arm and coercive diplomacy is what is truly unworthy of a great power.”

 

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