Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

More posturing and PR. That's all they do. Poland, Germany and most other EU countries (not to mention the USA) will continue to buy Russian gas, oil and coal, albeit less, with a different logo, i.e. Russian gas, oil and coal sold by Russia to a 3rd party and rebranded as being from somewhere else.
That is obvious, but the posturing influences the population to behave/think accordingly.

I have some friends who are Poles who say exactly what is said by their PM. They are convinced all contacts with Russia are broken. If you tell them otherwise they say you are pro-Russian. So it doesn't matter what I know, it is what the general population believes thanks to their leadership. I bet most Poles have no clue of what is in that article and my post proves that.
 
I have some friends who are Poles who say exactly what is said by their PM. They are convinced all contacts with Russia are broken. If you tell them otherwise they say you are pro-Russian. So it doesn't matter what I know, it is what the general population believes thanks to their leadership. I bet most Poles have no clue of what is in that article and my post proves that.
On the contrary my Polish friends say exactly what Joe said. Even if there is high probability that it is true, you have really weak evidence to make such general conclusion.

Personal opinion. Poles don't care if resources are from Russia or not. Collectively we broken all contacts with Russia long time ago. What I observe it is emotional response which is forced by media to select this or this - no complexity, no grade, only black or white. For ordinary people it is easier to follow cheap option. But deeply in their minds... they really don't care.
 
Now this is getting more and more interesting, seems like US it throwing Ukraine under the bus.
I had a feeling this would take place, from the moment it happened.. it would always be a 'group of Ukrainians' who took the law into their own hands and acted in what they believed was the best way, yet again distancing themselves from what is a terrorist attack.

I also pretty certain that this "revelations" are made in an attempt to counteract Seymour Hersh's statements about the US and others being behind the attacks. I think Zajarova said it best below, note the "found traces of explosives on the cabin of the yacht" it sounds a lot like those passports found in NYC:

The Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman responds to leaks about the Nord Stream pipeline recently made by the newspapers 'The New York Times' and 'Zeit'. The two media outlets reveal that behind the Nord Stream explosions is allegedly a pro-Ukrainian group.

"Western media are trumpeting the news that the investigation into the Nord Stream bombings has given grounds to believe that a) it is not Russia; and b) it is Ukrainian groups," Maria Zakharova said.

"I wonder who allows such leaks to fill the news space. The answer: those who do not want to conduct an investigation in a legal sphere, and are going to divert the public's attention from the facts in every possible way," the spokeswoman wrote on her Telegram channel.

"Instead of leaks, the Western regimes involved in the incident should respond to the official requests of the Russian side and, at the very least, take into consideration the materials of Hersh's journalistic investigation without replacing them with anonymous explosions."

Die Zeit' revelations


This March 7, the German newspaper Die Zeit wrote that the country's authorities have determined that those involved in the attack on the Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 gas pipelines were linked to Ukraine, but it is unknown who ordered the operation. The media outlet cites the results of information gathering by several German media outlets.

"German investigative authorities appear to have made a breakthrough in clarifying the circumstances of the attack on Nord Stream and Nord Stream 2 (...), with traces pointing in the direction of Ukraine. However, investigators have not found any indication of who ordered the destruction of these facilities," the newspaper notes.

"In particular, the investigators managed to identify the boat that was probably used in the covert operation. It was a yacht rented by a company registered in Poland, which apparently belonged to two Ukrainians," the newspaper said.

"Investigators found traces of explosives on the cabin table," the newspaper noted. "According to the ARD television channel and the Zeit newspaper, Western intelligence services had already passed on to European partner services in the autumn that a Ukrainian group was responsible for the sabotage," it added.

New York Times' revelations

Earlier in the day, new intelligence data had been revealed by the U.S. daily New York Times. According to the information provided, a pro-Ukrainian group is allegedly behind the explosions at Nord Stream.

U.S. officials stated that they found no evidence that Russian authorities were involved in the attack, meanwhile they refused to disclose the nature of the intelligence information, how it was obtained, as well as the details of the evidence it contained.

Likewise, American journalist Seymour Hersh, in a conversation with Sputnik, laughed at the New York Times article, but declined to comment on it. He noted the absence of sources for the information, before ending the conversation.

The White House declined to comment on the new media data on Nord Stream sabotage and referred to an investigation conducted by European countries.

On September 26, Nord Stream 2 AG, operator of the Russian pipeline of the same name, reported a gas leak from unknown causes in one of the infrastructure's two pipelines near the Danish island of Bornholm. It later transpired that the two lines of the parallel Nord Stream 1 pipeline had also been damaged.

Russia's Foreign Intelligence Service labeled the explosions as terrorist attacks and on September 30 unveiled the possession of evidence pointing to the involvement of certain Western countries. The Russian Prosecutor General's Office opened an international terrorism investigation following the damage to the two pipelines in an area of the Baltic Sea.

Germany, Denmark and Sweden did not rule out an act of sabotage.

Data from the Flightradar24 website, which displays real-time information on air traffic around the world, revealed that in early September U.S. military helicopters regularly flew over the area where the incident occurred for hours at a time.

On February 8, Pulitzer Prize-winning US journalist Seymour Hersh revealed that US military divers placed explosive charges under Russian gas pipelines during North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) Baltops exercises in mid-2022.

In September, according to the journalist, Norwegians set off the explosives, causing serious damage to the pipelines connecting Russia to Germany on the Baltic Sea floor. Hersh stressed that U.S. President Joe Biden approved the sabotage after more than nine months of secret discussions with his national security team.
 
Just a matter of time before they announce that it was a group of pro-Ukraine transgender Russians.
What are you saying? How dare you?! Don't touch the sacred! How can white and fluffy, one of the pillars of democratic values, participate in such a thing?! Hands off transgender people!
They were, of course, pro-Putin activists, but they were strictly brutal, bearded men.
In my opinion, the "liver sausage" Scholz continues to be disgraced in his attempts to help the half-witted grandfather not to fail in future elections. He recently went to Washington, apparently he coordinated everything there, and then the results of the work of German investigators appear.

And that's who Zelensky is crying for.
Zelensky announced the death of one of the leaders of the "Right Sector"
According to the President of Ukraine, Dmitry Kotsyubailo commanded a battalion as part of the 67th Separate Mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
MOSCOW, March 7. /tass/. President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky announced that in the battles near Artemivsk, a militant of the Right Sector group (banned in the Russian Federation) Dmitry Kotsyubailo, known as "Da Vinci", was killed, whom the head of the Ukrainian state personally awarded the title "Hero of Ukraine" in 2021. According to the Ukrainian newspaper Strana, Kotsyubailo was considered one of the leaders of the Right Sector.

"Today, Da Vinci, the hero of Ukraine <...> Dmitry Kotsyubailo died in battle," Zelensky said in an evening address to the country published on the Telegram channel. "He was killed in a battle near Bakhmut (as Artemovsk is called in Ukraine - approx. TASS)," the head of state added.

Zelensky said that Kotsyubailo commanded a battalion as part of the 67th Separate mechanized Brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU). He added that the extremist killed in battle had participated in Kiev's military operation in Donbass since 2014.

In December 2021, Zelensky, after delivering his annual address to the country in the Verkhovna Rada, personally awarded Kotsyubailo the title of "Hero of Ukraine".

According to Strana, Kotsyubailo was a native of the Ivano-Frankivsk region, at the age of 18 in 2014 he joined armed extremist groups that participated in the Ukrainian military operation in the Donbass.
Зеленский сообщил о гибели одного из лидеров "Правого сектора"

By the way, my version is that this is one of the "participants" of the explosion of the northern streams. As we say - the dead will not have shame; and I think that it is quite possible that in the end they will write everything off on such people. German investigators announced the participation of one woman, so we can call her by her last name. This is the same Vovk who blew up Daria Dugina. She may still be alive, but already she's an used material.

Что вы такое говорите? Как вы смеете?! Не трогайте святое! Как могут белые и пушистые, одни из столпов демократических ценностей участвовать в подобном?! Руки прочь от трансгендеров!
Это были конечно же пропутинские активисты, но это были строго брутальные, бородатые мужики.
На мой взгляд, "ливерная колбаса" Шольц продолжает позориться в своих попытках помочь полоумному дедушке не провалиться на будущих выборах. Недавно он съездил в Вашингтон, видимо там все согласовал и тут появляются результаты работы немецких следователей
А вот по кому плачет Зеленский.
Кстати, моя версия, что это один из "участников" взрыва северных потоков. Как у нас говорят- мертвые сраму не имут; и я думаю, что вполне возможно в итоге на подобных все и спишут. Немецкие следователи заявили об участии одной женщины, так вот ее мы можем назвать по фамилии. Это та самая Вовк, которая взорвала Дарью Дугину. Пусть она возможно ещё жива, но она уже отработанный материал.
 
That is the impression I got too. There has been too much evidence, albeit circumstantial, that the US and/or UK was involved - tons of it. I'm thinking of the messages sent by Truss among others and plenty of analysts suggesting that US/UK expertise would be required to pull these attacks off, as well as help from Poland and likely complicity from Scandinavian states.

I'm reminded of this post from Voyageur a while back suggesting US/UK training of the Ukrainian Navy in UUV use:

This is a little aside from many other related theirs and stories in this thread, and Helmer is also mentioned. To me, there is a lot of muddying of waters, and really, taking out a pipeline underwater is not high rocket science. There would be multiple methods, and the field has many players and joint operational players to point the finger at. Naturally, the bread crumbs or sea shells lead in certain (cough) directions - yet operations can be funny that way as peeps well know from history.

Anyway, the article (September 29th) highlights the Ukrainian Navy being trained by US/UK underwater specialists. The theme is training on Unmanned Underwater Vehicles.

UUV's like this do all sorts of scanning, and who knows what else. The size shown in the video could not easily provide a payload, unless modified to be the payload. There are explosive drills that could easily do the job, however I don't know much about them. There are independent contractors (like this one, who had some good September contracts, and noted they do work for the Israelis sometimes) who specialize in removing explosives from confined spaces with underwater robotic drones; suppose you could reverse the process, too? There are probably any number of these types of contractors.



Gives me the impression that this is another case of what the NATO strategy seems to have been all along: try to train up the Ukrainians to some extent, supply equipment/arms/intel and plan operations with them - leaving them as the scapegoat if needed.


Looks like the Russians know exactly what is going on.
 
Mass media: Poland sent low-quality automatic machines to Ukraine
Onet: many technical problems were found with Grot machines supplied by Poland to Ukraine

MOSCOW, March 8/ Sputnik Radio. Polish special forces during joint exercises with Ukrainian colleagues found a lot of technical problems with Grot submachine guns supplied to Ukraine, writes Onet.
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"Polish operators have written a memo on this matter to the commander of the special forces. In it, they describe the "damage and dysfunction of weapons" that occurred during classes. The note states that the Grot submachine guns were jammed, in many instances there were no screws for fixing the barrel, a plastic cover on the cocking lever or a lock for extending the butt. Soldiers also write about the low accuracy of shooting," the article says.

It is reported that in 2022, 10,000 copies of these weapons were sent to Ukraine, and the AFU soldiers also complain about their jamming "every six or seven shots."
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The variety of defects is so great that the weapon must undergo serious modernizing changes," the Polish military believes.
СМИ: Польша отправила на Украину некачественные автоматы

How they have everything famously twisted. They made a Grot machine gun, they managed to send as many as 10,000 pcs to Ukraine, and it turns out that they ourselves did not test it. This is the "easiest" option, otherwise it turns out that they experienced, realized that it turned out to be complete shit, but to Ukrainians it will get so. I am inclined to the second option because it is hard to believe that the special forces will not test new weapons produced by their own country. And I also have a question: what does the Polish special forces itself use? It is unlikely that they still use Soviet "kalash" even of their own production, most likely the most democratic American AR, well, or the proven Belgian FN are used.

Как у них все лихо закручено. Сделали автомат Grot, на Украину успели отправить аж 10000 шт., а сами, получается, и не испытывали его. Это самый "легкий" вариант, в противном случае получается, что испытали, поняли, что получилось полное говно, но украинцам и такое сойдет. Я склоняюсь ко второму варианту ибо трудно поверить, что спецназ не протестирует новое оружие производства собственной страны. И еще у меня вопрос: а чем пользуется сам польский спецназ? Вряд ли они до сих пор используют советские "калаши" даже собственного производства, скорее всего используются наиболее демократические амриканские AR, ну или проверенные бельгийские FN.
 
On the contrary my Polish friends say exactly what Joe said. Even if there is high probability that it is true, you have really weak evidence to make such general conclusion.
The short exchange I had with Joe was with regard to the following comment I posted,

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This post was really directed at you, because noticing your down vote I provided information in support of what I wrote.

In a discussion or a debate if one does not agree one should provide a counter with information why what was said was not right, so that there is an understanding where the disagreement lies. You didn't do that until now.

Reading your comment it seem to me that you are under the impression that the term Poland was inappropriate because it is too general. Well problem is such that when discussing what countries do we are not referring to the individuals. In such discussions individuals are most often stripped of anything they may be associate with, such as education, profession, individual character, opinions and such. Instead the individual is cast to a single dimension with which he is associated with, such a Americans, Poles Germans etc. When it is stated America is arming Ukraine I can not fault someone and say "Well I don't. You are wrong". Biden represents all Americans, whether Americans like it or not.

Hence, in the case of buying or not buying, the voice of Poland is PM Morawicki. When he says we will not buy he is speaking for all whether they like it or not, Poland. The same goes for any country.

Personal opinion. Poles don't care if resources are from Russia or not. Collectively we broken all contacts with Russia long time ago. What I observe it is emotional response which is forced by media to select this or this - no complexity, no grade, only black or white. For ordinary people it is easier to follow cheap option. But deeply in their minds... they really don't care.
You fell into the same trap as you accuse me of having made. Why ? Because not everyone in Poland broke all contacts with Russia. The article I provided of who is buying oil/gas from Russia is just one such example.

But they should care !!!!

Poland provides military aid to Ukraine on a level of 2.4 billion euros.

Yet brotherly Ukraine in 2017 decided to buy its coal from US and not Poland. Your country is right next door.

While the Ukrainians are buying coal from US Polish coal mines are being closed

Poland agrees to shut coal mines by 2049​

(EurActiv, 26 Sep 2020) Poland moved closer to ending its heavy reliance on coal Friday (25 September) as the government and miners’ unions agreed a landmark plan to phase out mines by 2049.

So much for Brotherly Love.
 
What are you saying? How dare you?! Don't touch the sacred! How can white and fluffy, one of the pillars of democratic values, participate in such a thing?! Hands off transgender people!
They were, of course, pro-Putin activists, but they were strictly brutal, bearded men.

Since everything is "fluid" when they went underwater there is always the possibility that they identified as "fish". So don't be too sure of yourself what the final verdict at the UN will be. That is the place where magic becomes "Reality", for the few idiots of course. Or maybe not just a "few". :nuts:

"Slava ..... Something"
 
Personal opinion. Poles don't care if resources are from Russia or not. Collectively we broken all contacts with Russia long time ago.
It doesn't look like it
Polish Orlen will demand compensation for the termination of Russian oil supplies

on March 6, 2023, 17:39

The Orlen energy concern from Poland wants to try to get Russian companies to pay compensation for the termination of oil and gas supplies and is currently studying this possibility. This was announced on March 6 by the head of the group of companies Daniel Obaytek.

"We will consider this issue. It's all contained in the contracts, which I can't talk about. The issue of compensation from Russia is being studied," the top manager of the Zet radio station quotes.

Obaytek noted that the Polish side will definitely make claims to the Russian side in this area. At the same time, he has not yet named the amount of the potential claim.

In a comment to Izvestia, Igor Yushkov, a leading analyst at the National Energy Security Fund, an expert at the Financial University, noted that if the Polish Orlen demands compensation for Russia's suspension of oil supplies and the case goes to arbitration, then the current situation will be recognized as force majeure.

The expert clarified that Poland had been seeking a ban on the import of Russian oil by pipeline for the entire 2022 year. However, Russia did not coordinate the continuation of oil supplies to Poland, he noted.

On February 25, Obaytek wrote on his Twitter page that Russia had stopped oil supplies to Poland. On February 27, Igor Demin, adviser to the president of Transneft, also said that the company does not transport Russian oil in the direction of Poland.

In January, Orlen signed a contract with the American firm Sempra for the supply of liquefied natural gas (LNG). The contract provides for the supply of 1 million tons of LNG per year for 20 years, its operation will begin in 2027. At the same time, the Orlen contract with the Russian Tatneft, which supplies 200 thousand tons of oil per month, is valid until December 2024.

On December 20, 2022, Transneft said that it had received an application from Poland for pumping oil in 2023. At the same time, Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak, commenting on the fact that Orlen has applied for the supply of 3 million tons of Russian oil through the Druzhba pipeline, called Poland's actions a theater of absurdity in the oil and gas market.

Earlier, Western countries decided to reduce their dependence on Russian energy resources against the background of Russia's special operation to protect Donbass, which was announced on February 24, 2022.
Польская Orlen потребует компенсации за прекращение поставок российской нефти

Or vice versa it looks like, but here it is
Since everything is "fluid" when they went underwater there is always the possibility that they identified as "fish"
In short, the guys live in some kind of their own, unique reality and jealousy protect it. God forbid someone will open their eyes.

About the "fish". I agree about the UN, but fish. My God- fish! I'm not going to wash my hair today, maybe I'll pass for a frog, but still, at least for an amphibian:shock:

Короче, ребята живут в какой то своей, уникальной реальности и ревностно её оберегают. Не дай бог кто-нибудь им глаза откроет.
О "рыбе". Про ООН согласен, но рыба. Боже мой - рыба! Я не собираюсь сегодня мыть голову, может быть, я сойду за лягушку, но все же, по крайней мере, за амфибию
 
Reading your comment it seem to me that you are under the impression that the term Poland was inappropriate because it is too general. Well problem is such that when discussing what countries do we are not referring to the individuals. In such discussions individuals are most often stripped of anything they may be associate with, such as education, profession, individual character, opinions and such. Instead the individual is cast to a single dimension with which he is associated with, such a Americans, Poles Germans etc. When it is stated America is arming Ukraine I can not fault someone and say "Well I don't. You are wrong". Biden represents all Americans, whether Americans like it or not.
You said Poles. Not Poland. Poland's statement is obvious. Poles statement I don't think so. You would be surprised how many knows that we have long term contract till 2024 with Russia or that oil pipes are out of sanctions and even that Poland right now is number one importer of RU oil in EU.

But even if it is minority there is slight, little change in public opinion:


This fig. is interesting even if research could be not reliable.

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Quick translation of most interesting:
2% change up for "if not nato expansion, putin would not have attacked ukraine" (26% overall)
4% change up for "we should stop supplying weapons, because it further ignites a conflict that has no relation to us" (34% overall)
5% change up for "we should promote peace at all costs, even at the cost of Ukraine's territorial concessions to Russia"
(62% stands for "Poland can't afford to take care of refugees from Ukraine")

...comparing to previous research.

And a bit from different perspective... The loud case of Bulgaria's supplies of oil, amu to Ukraine:


To current day Russia is still supplying oil to Burgas rafinery, somehow Burgas has an exception for counter oil price cap from Russia and has an exception from EU ban for sea transport to Ukraine of Russia's oil products . So... business as usual everywhere.

You fell into the same trap as you accuse me of having made. Why ? Because not everyone in Poland broke all contacts with Russia. The article I provided of who is buying oil/gas from Russia is just one such example.
It doesn't look like it
Ookeeey... Yeah you're right. I used wrong words. Sorry about that. I meant more like we (my nation) broke mentally (?) or resigned from relation with Russia long time ago (not from resources itself). Something like that. Nevertheless... forget it - my comment doesn't add anything relevant anyway.
 
There is great war russian - polish master pupets for centuries. Poland is best plan for cabal after Ukraine fall. Only plan. They are runing on Polish hate towards Russian. There is no polish goverment in Poland nor was in Russia unti Putin played his own game. War is money. Death of people during this war is a simple energy scam, thieft etc. Typical STS behavior. Putin is plaing wise game. Question is 'how much' time does he has? So Yes we will see "polish" offensive on ukrainian soil as this war is not really Ukrainians war.
 
Ookeeey... Yeah you're right. I used wrong words. Sorry about that. I meant more like we (my nation) broke mentally (?) or resigned from relation with Russia long time ago (not from resources itself). Something like that. Nevertheless... forget it - my comment doesn't add anything relevant anyway.

I agree. Lets just drop it.

Believe me, I am not Poland's worst enemy.

The worst people are the ones MAKING IT LOOK LIKE "Poland" is all behind what is going on in Ukraine.
Personally I think it is not. What % think this way in Poland ? Well there we have a problem

However, NEVER FORGET -------> Massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia
because there are people who want to pretend there is no problem.

However there is a problem. See 20:41 min which was taken 2 years after Maidan.

 
More posturing and PR. That's all they do. Poland, Germany and most other EU countries (not to mention the USA) will continue to buy Russian gas, oil and coal, albeit less, with a different logo, i.e. Russian gas, oil and coal sold by Russia to a 3rd party and rebranded as being from somewhere else.
That's right, here's literally yesterday's news:

Trade turnover between Russia and the EU was the highest in eight years

The trade turnover between Russia and the European Union at the end of 2022 reached a maximum in eight years, RIA Novosti calculated based on Eurostat data.
According to the agency's estimates, trade turnover grew by 2.3% over the year and reached €258.6 billion, the highest value since 2014. The EU's trade deficit with Russia has reached a record €148.2 billion, twice the 2021 figure.
Imports of goods from Russia to the EU in 2022 increased by 25% and reached €203.4 billion, €230 million less than the historical maximum of 2012. Then it amounted to €203.6 billion.
The import of goods from the EU to Russia at the same time decreased by 38.1%, to €55.2 billion. This is the minimum since 2005, the agency notes.
 
I meant more like we (my nation) broke mentally (?) or resigned from relation with Russia long time ago
And here it is, please. A Russian proverb says: you will not be nice by force. Only at the same time it is desirable not to lose touch with reality, and this is exactly what is happening now and concerns not only Poland at all. As you say, your mental break with Russia was not invented by you, it is a process orchestrated from the outside and takes place in all post-Soviet countries. I emphasize - in ALL, with only one exception - Belarus miraculously refrained from this. Look for yourself, all the Eastern European countries - former members of the Warsaw Pact are now members of NATO, a military bloc created to confront the USSR.
Nationalism based on Russophobia is flourishing with varying degrees in all Eastern European countries and former members of the Soviet Union. The same applies to Central Asian countries, former republics of the USSR. The methods of promoting this policy vary slightly due to specific conditions, but the essence is the same - you are all being led along the path of Ukraine.
As for Poland specifically, in my opinion, Poles should understand that if it did not work out with Ukraine, then Poland would be in its place "now". Perhaps together with the Baltics, but this is not essential. The important thing here is that Poland is still next in line to join the war against Russia and it will not be Poland or even the European Union that will decide something about it.
Believe me, I am not Poland's worst enemy.

I completely share it. I am not an enemy of Poland or anyone else, but it is you who are being made enemies of Russia, and therefore mine. How I would like people to open their eyes as soon as possible and see the reasons for what is happening and weigh the possible consequences. You don't have to love Russia, Russia will somehow manage without your love, but no one will be able to cross out 140 million people and 1/8 of the land just like that.

А вот это пожалуйста. Русская поговорка гласит: насильно мил не будешь. Только при этом желательно не терять связь с реальностью, а ведь именно это сейчас и происходит и касается совсем не только Польши. Ваш, как вы говорите, ментальный разрыв с Россией не вами придуман, это процесс отрежиссированный снаружи и происходит во всех постсоветских странах. Я подчеркиваю- во ВСЕХ, за одним только исключением- Беларусь чудом удержалась от этого. Посмотрите сами, все восточноевропейские страны- бывшие члены Варшавского Договора теперь члены НАТО, военного блока, созданного для противостояния СССР. Во всех восточноевропейских странах и странах бывших членах Советского Союза с разной степенью процветает национализм, основанный на русофобии. Тоже самое касается среднеазиатских стран, бывших республик СССР. Методы продвижения этой политики немного разнятся из-за конкретных условий, но суть то одна- вас всех ведут по пути Украины. Что касается конкретно Польши, то по моему поляки должны понимать, что если бы не получилось с Украиной, то на ее месте "сейчас" была бы Польша. Возможно вместе с прибалтийцами, но это не существенно. Существенно здесь то, что Польша и сейчас следующая в очереди на вступление в войну против России и решать что то об этом будет не Польша и даже не евросоюз.
Целиком разделяю. Я не враг Польши и вообще никому, но это из вас делают врагов России, а значит и моих. Как я хотел бы, чтоб поскорее люди открыли глаза и увидели причины происходящего и взвесили возможные последствия. Не надо любить Россию, Россия без вашей любви как нибудь обойдется, но и просто так зачеркнуть 140 миллионов людей и 1/8 часть суши ни у кого не получится.
 
Supposedly the biggest missile strike to date is taking place right now.

From Slavyangrad:

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Vengeance Strikes - Morning Summary March 9, 2023 as of 7:20 AM PT

Today, retaliatory strikes on infrastructure facilities in Ukraine have resumed since early morning. At night, air raid alerts sounded throughout the country, there were reports of overflights of Geraniums. The first explosions sounded at 4 am Moscow time. Immediately after that, emergency blackouts began in a number of regions.

⚠️Explosions sounded in:


- Odessa;
— Odessa region;
— Nikolaev region;
- Dnepropetrovsk;
— Dnepropetrovsk region;
— Zhytomyr region;
— Kharkov;
— Kharkiv region;
— Vinnitsa region;
— Lviv region;
— Zaporozhye region;
- Kyiv;
- Kyiv region;
— Ivano-Frankivsk region;
— Ternopil region;
— Poltava region;
— Khmelnitsky region;
— Volyn region;
— Chernihiv region;
— Kirovograd region;
- Sumy region.

⚡️Emergency shutdowns in:

— Kharkov;
— Kharkiv region;
- Odessa;
— Odessa region;
— Lviv;
— Lviv region;
- Dnepropetrovsk.

And from a few other sources I’m seeing on Twitter:





 
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