Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

Today...Rubio says 1) Ukraine has agreed to a 30 day ceasefire. And 2) also agreed to sign the minerals deal. 3) now we' will send representatives to Russia where we hope they will agree with a cease fire. (Video below of Rubio&Waltz Q&A)

So literally, while Rubio was on his way to the talks, Ukraine AKA the US launches over 300 drones into Moscow to blow the hell out of it, and now a few hours later they want to ask Russia for a cease fire? What the hell? (they didn't target soldiers, but killing civilians and destroying their homes)

Should the Russian ask the US negotiators "if you want peace why did you do this to us?" The US well: "we" didn't do it, but you know this is complicated we're looking for answer too" Russia: "OK could you send us the US representatives who are responsible, since you people are apparently some kind of no-nothing lackeys?"

Q&A of Rubio & Waltz below:

 
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Adobe said:
Today...Rubio says 1) Ukraine has agreed to a 30 day ceasefire. And 2) also agreed to sign the minerals deal. 3) now we' will send representatives to Russia where we hope they will agree with a cease fire.
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If they want a ceasefire why US resumes intelligence and military aid to Ukraine? sending messages that are too contradictory, and they still have the nerve to throw the hot potato at Putin? with the agree of the European Parliament? a donkey is not born stubborn, will see how Putin responds.
 
@mabar "a donkey is not born stubborn" (I've never heard that statement before...It's great, I'm going to adopt it.)

Speaking of "Resuming US intelligence" (?)

"US intel sharing with Ukraine ‘has never been shut off’ – senior official"​

Speaking to Fox News on Monday, Witkoff said that his “best understanding” is that the US “never shut off intelligence... for anything defensive that the Ukrainians need.” He added that the issue of intelligence sharing would be “on the discussion list” for a meeting between US National Security Adviser Mike Waltz and Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Ukrainian representatives in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, on Tuesday.

”I think that aid was shut off for a bit of time. I’m really not sure where we are,” he said

"When asked by journalists aboard Air Force One on Sunday if he would consider ending the reported intel pause, Trump replied by saying: “We just about have. I mean, we really just about have.”

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US intel sharing with Ukraine ‘has never been shut off’ – senior official

Washington previously said it had suspended cooperation following a dispute between Donald Trump and Vladimir Zelensky last month
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It seems Trump has fallen into another trap whether by Rubio or the European deep state. He's basically saying: Agree to this ceasefire while we arm the ukros to attack you later or we continue the war while arming the ukros while using the terrorist attack on Moscow's civilians as a bargaining chip (is that a threat?). All that talk about saving lives is flushed into the toilet.
 
youlik said:
The last time this tactic was used, it resulted in the liberation of Avdiivka. Let's see how it works now.




Time to get out of here? Or is it not time yet?
Agree, this is a completely different level compared to villas, mansions or even palaces.


В прошлый раз, когда была применена такая тактика, это привело к освобождению Авдеевки. Посмотрим как это сработает теперь.
Время сваливать? Или еще не время?
Согласитесь, это совсем другой уровень по сравнению с виллами, особняками или даже дворцами.
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i am a customer of milleis. i DO NOT want to become an asset of ukraine. FROM WHERE OR WHOM DID HE GET THIS BILLION ??? WERE THE BILLIONS NOT INTENDED FOR HIS FIGHTING ??? who gave him THIS BILLION ??? how does he fight with a bank ??? or is this one more fake news ??? who autorises such a purchase ??? ETC, ETC, ...
 
youlik said:
The last time this tactic was used, it resulted in the liberation of Avdiivka. Let's see how it works now.




Time to get out of here? Or is it not time yet?
Agree, this is a completely different level compared to villas, mansions or even palaces.


В прошлый раз, когда была применена такая тактика, это привело к освобождению Авдеевки. Посмотрим как это сработает теперь.
Время сваливать? Или еще не время?
Согласитесь, это совсем другой уровень по сравнению с виллами, особняками или даже дворцами.
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I think we now have a clear answer: it worked spectacularly because it has basically ended Ukraine's occupation of Kursk.

RT video report included in this summary by RWA on X:

 
mkrnhr said:
It seems Trump has fallen into another trap whether by Rubio or the European deep state. He's basically saying: Agree to this ceasefire while we arm the ukros to attack you later or we continue the war while arming the ukros while using the terrorist attack on Moscow's civilians as a bargaining chip (is that a threat?). All that talk about saving lives is flushed into the toilet.
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Yes, and now Russia's refusal to accept a ceasefire or (temporary non-solution like Minsk 3.0) will be spun as pure evil. Despite the fact that they consistently said this was not an option. Will see what happens at talks today, but it's seems unlikely to be productive if Trump continues to ease pressure on Ukraine. Again, he is taking advice from bad actors. Anyone who advised pressuring Russia into a ceasefire at this point is incredibly stupid, because there is no leverage to make this work. More likely, they are fully aware and not interested in resolving the situation but buying time to rearm, as you say.

I'm hoping that some serious leverage (Starlink cutoff , financial cutoff) is still on the table here and Trump is just keeping Ukraine off balance with his statements.
 
I'm not sure trump is to be trusted on this one. He didn't really deliver on the MAGA promises, no Epstein files, no wall, no JFK files, the US under economic attacks (on the markets and inside). He can loose his rich supporters at any moment. He declares "an energy crisis" the same time he goes against Massi, etc. The 30 days cease-fire is basically a reiteration of Stermer/Macron proposal, bending the knee to foreign powers. If he own the war against Russia he needs to presents it as Russia's fault, otherwise his ego will not tolerate it.
 
Things are going pretty well as far as can be expected.

Never expected Epstein or JFK files in any meaningful sense, could see likely economic issues or worse (as Deep State retaliation). Didn't really expect the war to end through negotiations, but possibly as a result of Russia's military actions. Regarding Israel, nothing good was promised and nothing good will be delivered as far as I can predict.

What I did expect was for serious reduction in illegal immigration, still remains to be seen how successful that has been.

Try the black pill, you can't be disappointed 😎
 
Ben said:
Never expected Epstein or JFK files in any meaningful sense,
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I think we may see some of it in time, but since the Mossad and "best friend" Israel cannot be implicated by the released files, they probably need to be careful about what they release.

RFK jr also cannot do much yet because some of his key people for the HHS still have to be confirmed by the senate. I wonder if something similar is still going on in other departments and why they have to wait with any meaningful action aside from the DOGE cuts.

mkrnhr said:
The 30 days cease-fire is basically a reiteration of Stermer/Macron proposal, bending the knee to foreign powers.
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A ceasefire would only benefit Ukraine to build up new fortifications and mine fields, so it is indeed unlikely that Russia would agree. There is not much left that the US can use as leverage either.

Considering that France, UK and others want to send their troops to Ukraine (without UN mandate) if there is a ceasefire of at least one month, a ceasefire makes even less sense.

The main issues seem to be the demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine (Russia's objectives). An indefinite ceasefire would mean Russia giving up on those objectives, even though it is now in a position to enforce them probably within 6-12 months.

It does seem that the ceasefire proposal is basically just a way for Trump to shift blame and score political points.
 
Other than what has already been mentioned in this thread, the obvious bargaining chip US still has would be to unfreeze the 300 billion of Russia reserves + interests, and also getting rid of the existing sanctions against Russia.

If nothing else, it would be a good start to building the trust so much needed for any future agreements.
 
Sounds reasonable. (Dugin and others comment on ceasefire.)

‘A ceasefire only benefits those who are retreating’: Russia’s top foreign relations experts and actors react to US-Ukraine talks​

Politicians, journalists, and analysts react to the news of a proposed 30-day ceasefire

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‘A ceasefire only benefits those who are retreating’: Russia’s top foreign relations experts and actors react to US-Ukraine talks

Russian politicians, journalists, and experts reacted to the news about the proposed 30-day ceasefire for Russia and Ukraine
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Putin went to the Kursk region today in military uniform, not something he does very often.

The main things which Putin said to Gerasimov:

In other words, Russia will create a buffer in the Sumy region. Russia might also tell the US that they won't set time aside for them until they are serious. To meet with Trump any time soon would seem pointless.
 
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