Benjamin
The Living Force
RT ran a short report on Mar. 30 about this, though it mentioned nothing about the US blocking Europe's access. Apparently the US is going to be importing oil products from Russia until Apr. 22.
Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine
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RT ran a short report on Mar. 30 about this, though it mentioned nothing about the US blocking Europe's access. Apparently the US is going to be importing oil products from Russia until Apr. 22.
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lilies
The Living Force
Hungary elections results April 3, 2022:
This was a paper-ballot voting. Computers are only used to count the ballots and send the numbers to the regional centers.
Population: 9,689,000
Registered voters: 8,215,304
65,480 voted from abroad.
I voted in the morning at ~7:00am, on Sunday. Four NO's to the questions in bold below and two yes's for the Russia-friendly Orban gang.
Orban's Russia-friendly FIDESZ party won by landslide securing the most seats in parliament:
Its easy to recognize them in the pic below, as Orban's gang was the result of CIA Orange Revolution 33 years ago. How times have changed since then..
(Highlighted the Neo-Nazis = Jobbik with red and the appropriate flag (Their name directly translates to "right[er]" - which is a wordplay on - "better"))
This event was combined with a repeated former national survey about the Satanic LGBTQ+ Agenda pushed by the Soros-WEF-EurocRat Cabal:
Q#1: Do you support the teaching of sexual orientation to minors in public education institutions without parental consent?
Yes: 272,411 (7,60%) {WTH?!}
NO: 3,312,326 ==> 92,40%
Q#2: Do you support the promotion of sex reassignment therapy to underage children?
Yes: 144,471 (4,06%) {WTH?!}
NO: 3,411,393 ==> 95,94%
Q#3: Do you support the unrestricted exposure of underage
children to sexually explicit media content that may affect their development?
Yes: 164,229 (4,63%) {Who are these people?!}
NO: 3,383,620 ==> 95,37%
Q#4: Do you support the showing of sex-change media content to minors?
Yes: 169,407 (4,78%)
NO: 3,376,261 ==> 95,22%
This was a paper-ballot voting. Computers are only used to count the ballots and send the numbers to the regional centers.
Population: 9,689,000
Registered voters: 8,215,304
65,480 voted from abroad.
I voted in the morning at ~7:00am, on Sunday. Four NO's to the questions in bold below and two yes's for the Russia-friendly Orban gang.
Orban's Russia-friendly FIDESZ party won by landslide securing the most seats in parliament:
Its easy to recognize them in the pic below, as Orban's gang was the result of CIA Orange Revolution 33 years ago. How times have changed since then..
(Highlighted the Neo-Nazis = Jobbik with red and the appropriate flag (Their name directly translates to "right[er]" - which is a wordplay on - "better"))
This event was combined with a repeated former national survey about the Satanic LGBTQ+ Agenda pushed by the Soros-WEF-EurocRat Cabal:
Q#1: Do you support the teaching of sexual orientation to minors in public education institutions without parental consent?
Yes: 272,411 (7,60%) {WTH?!}
NO: 3,312,326 ==> 92,40%
Q#2: Do you support the promotion of sex reassignment therapy to underage children?
Yes: 144,471 (4,06%) {WTH?!}
NO: 3,411,393 ==> 95,94%
Q#3: Do you support the unrestricted exposure of underage
children to sexually explicit media content that may affect their development?
Yes: 164,229 (4,63%) {Who are these people?!}
NO: 3,383,620 ==> 95,37%
Q#4: Do you support the showing of sex-change media content to minors?
Yes: 169,407 (4,78%)
NO: 3,376,261 ==> 95,22%
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lilies
The Living Force
Participation rate was 69,54%
Evan
Jedi Council Member
Well, Biden just dipped massively into our “strategic oil reserves”, ostensibly due to Putin, but more importantly to cover his own ass. Kinda like the time Gerald Ford fell down the stairs of Air Force one and inadvertently pardoned Richard Nixon. Nobody rides for free.
As part of the Bucha massacre narrative, the NYT published an article claiming that the bodies on the street appearead on a satellite picture two weeks earlier, so that the murders would have taken place when the Russians were there. 'They' like this as a favourite argument, apparently, because every time I point out on social media that the major of the town didn't mention any killings after the Russians left, or that there are other videos of the town, again with no mention of bodies, somebody comes along and says 'but the satellite pictures!'. My guess is that those pictures are either doctored or the date is simply wrong. The bodies on the ground don't look like they've been under the weather for 2 weeks, and I find it really hard to belive that in such a small town (looked it up) people didn't know about 80+ bodies lying on the street, and nobody picked them up or moved them, even if just to a sidewalk. Not the families, not the neighbours, not the authorities nor the Russians. They just left them there to get in the way of traffic and make a stench.
Anyway, Gonzalo Lira posted an analysis (not his) of the picture on his telegram channel that supposedly shows that the picture was taken on April 1st - not March 19 as it is claimed. For your consideration:
t.me
Anyway, Gonzalo Lira posted an analysis (not his) of the picture on his telegram channel that supposedly shows that the picture was taken on April 1st - not March 19 as it is claimed. For your consideration:
Gonzalo Lira
⚡️🇺🇦 The photo of the "Bucha massacre of March 19" was taken on April 1 Thanks to the help of our team of OSINT and GEOINT specialists, we were able to accurately determine the time of the photo. ▪️A picture from the NYT allegedly from March 19 shows sandy alluvium after the downpour, which...
t.me
It will be interesting to see if that analysis can be verified. It would suggest that (most? all?) of these civilians were killed by shelling - not execution style. That would make their deaths no different than countless others in cities and towns where civilians get caught in the crossfire or are deliberately targeted by the crazies.As part of the Bucha massacre narrative, the NYT published an article claiming that the bodies on the street appearead on a satellite picture two weeks earlier, so that the murders would have taken place when the Russians were there. 'They' like this as a favourite argument, apparently, because every time I point out on social media that the major of the town didn't mention any killings after the Russians left, or that there are other videos of the town, again with no mention of bodies, somebody comes along and says 'but the satellite pictures!'. My guess is that those pictures are either doctored or the date is simply wrong. The bodies on the ground don't look like they've been under the weather for 2 weeks, and I find it really hard to belive that in such a small town (looked it up) people didn't know about 80+ bodies lying on the street, and nobody picked them up or moved them, even if just to a sidewalk. Not the families, not the neighbours, not the authorities nor the Russians. They just left them there to get in the way of traffic and make a stench.
Anyway, Gonzalo Lira posted an analysis (not his) of the picture on his telegram channel that supposedly shows that the picture was taken on April 1st - not March 19 as it is claimed. For your consideration:
Gonzalo Lira
⚡️🇺🇦 The photo of the "Bucha massacre of March 19" was taken on April 1 Thanks to the help of our team of OSINT and GEOINT specialists, we were able to accurately determine the time of the photo. ▪️A picture from the NYT allegedly from March 19 shows sandy alluvium after the downpour, which...
Then again, that would also be the case if the satellite photos are legitimately dated, and the shelling occurred weeks beforehand. As for why no one mentioned them, probably for the same reason they didn't mention the "mass grave" when the city was liberated: it was 'old news.' The local medical authorities buried those bodies weeks ago, and filmed it - they were people who died during the fighting in the city, not the result of some deliberate Russian massacre of civilians.
Whether they were killed weeks ago, or right after the Russians left, it seems obvious that the Ukrainian propaganda department decided that a new narrative could be written for these bodies (just like they did for the 'discovery' of the mass grave). Only then did they become significant enough to mention. All they needed to do was tie the hands of some of them, to make it seem as if they had been executed (or add a few bodies to the mix of people they HAD executed).
Benjamin
The Living Force
This commentary on Bucha mentions a few things about the bodies and their state of decay as well as the lack of carrion birds, dogs and rats. The point is also made that nobody in the videos seem to be affected by the smell of rotting corpses (including the mayor). And where the heck are the other residents? Did the city of 35,000 people just all leave? Nobody saw where these bodies came from? In so many other cities, residents are burying their dead in makeshift graves and these ones are allowed to be left out for weeks?
MSM's Bucha Tall Tale
Apr. 5, 2022, 6 hours ago (Updated: 5 hours ago)
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"The Bucha Massacre" has now become the driving force for the propaganda push for even more NATO involvement in the conflict in Ukraine.
Yet the claim that this is a Russian war crime is so patently false that a rational observer can only be left astounded by the combination of bare-faced nerve and slapdash incompetence displayed by the media outlets and politicians pushing this disgusting smear.
The latest effort of the Western media to deny Russian rebuttals is the claim that satellite photos show the bodies were there for weeks. Far from 'proving' the case against Russian troops, however, this new assertion in fact raises yet more questions which undermine the Western story.
The satellite photos certainly appear to show bodies, but they also show no sign at all of the burnt out cars which are such a prominent feature of the ground photos and videos. Are we supposed to believe that these vehicles were carefully driven in and positioned between the corpses after the shooting spree?
A similar suspension of belief is required when considering the dates involved. The 'Bucha Massacre' entry in Wiki (accessed 09.25 on 5th April 2022) reads as follows:
'On 4 April, satellite images were provided to The New York Times by Maxar Technologies. The Times compared images to video evidence and concluded: "many of the civilians were killed more than three weeks ago, when Russia’s military was in control of the town." The images of Yablonska Street show at least 11 "dark objects of similar size to a human body" appearing between 9 March and 11 March”.’
Wiki also tells us that Ukrainian troops re-entered Bucha on April 1st, following the redeployment of the Russian force to south eastern Ukraine.
Maxar Technologies, as a major contractor for NASA, is of course an integral part of the NATO military-industrial complex. As such its assertions with regards to the conduct of the conflict in Ukraine have to be regarded with caution. That said, Maxar’s dates of 9th– 11th March seem to be causing some concern in mainstream media outlets promoting the Russian massacre claim.
The Maxar dates should indeed raise eyebrows. The idea that bodies could lie in the open air for three whole weeks without undergoing massive decay is only remotely credible because the average Westerner thinks that Ukraine is in some kind of winter weather deep-freeze in late March.
Yet a look at the weather data for Kiev for March 2022 reveals that there has not been one single day in the city (of which Bucha is a suburb) with temperatures below freezing since March 11th. The average daily temperature in the last few days of the month was 6 degrees centigrade – the same as the English city of Leeds. That average in turn of course includes highs in the spring sunshine. The weather graph for Kiev for the last week in March shows the situation very clearly, with temperatures up to 15 and 17 degrees:
March weather in Kiev
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Anyone who has walked past an animal killed and left on the road for a few days under such conditions will be able to imagine the appalling stench which would come from so many human bodies left in the spring sunshine for three weeks, yet not one of the Ukrainian soldiers or police shown examine the bodies can be seen wearing a mask, making any expression of revulsion or mentioning the smell.
As more graphic images have emerged of the victims, the evident freshness of the corpses seems to have prompted a revision of the dates of the alleged ‘Russian massacre’. By 5th April, for example, the UK Daily Mail’s lead story was claiming that the satellite photos showing the bodies on the road were taken on 19th March. No explanation was given for the ten-day change.
But even accepting the revised time-line, there is still the problem that none of the bodies shown in videos or photos has any sign of decay or damage from carrion-eaters. In order to believe the accounts and videos put out by Kiev and the Western media, it is also necessary to believe that Ukraine has no stray dogs, no rats and not one single crow or other carnivorous bird.
Look again at the video footage of the Ukrainian troops driving along the corpse-lined road. Do you see any carrion-eating birds flying up from any of the bodies?
For that matter, why were some of the bodies not crushed by the Russian tanks which withdrew from and through the town? Do you really believe that soldiers brutal enough to slaughter dozens of defenceless civilians would then be considerate enough to slow down their withdrawal from the area by carefully weaving their heavy armour around each corpse?
Returning to the weather, there was of course rain during the three weeks the bodies are supposed to have laid (not) rotting in the road. Looking at the cardboard of the green boxes of the food aid packages lying near some of the (clearly fresh) corpses, it is clear that they have not been subjected to bad weather. The presence of those packages is also, of course, another important pointer as to the truth in this matter – for they are Russian.
Screenshot
© Photo : Twitter
Thus, in order to believe the Western propaganda narrative, we must swallow yet another ridiculous tall tale: The ‘analysts’ have spent the last month repeatedly telling us that the Russian army cannot even supply its own troops with fuel or food; but now they would have us believe that the Russians went to all the trouble of taking vast quantities of emergency food parcels to the occupied suburbs of Kiev, handed them out to civilians – and then promptly shot them.
Food parcels
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On top of all this, there are four key facts which have already received considerable attention on Telegram (the last uncensored social media platform of any size in the West), though which have predictably enough been routinely ignored by the warmongering mainstream media.
The first of these is the video of the Mayor of Bucha speaking about how the Russian troops have left and that a ‘clean-up’ is now underway. As a non-Russian speaker I cannot judge for myself, but the comments by Russian-speakers accompanying this video on Telegram say that he does not mention the bodies of civilians.
The second fact, closely related to this, is the video which shows a detachment of the paramilitary Ukrainian National Police clearing the roads of burnt out and abandoned vehicles. Again, there is no sign of the bodies which appeared on the streets the following day.
Third, and perhaps most devastating of all, are the white armbands on a number of the bodies. These are clearly shown in the main video of Ukrainian troops driving along the corpse-strewn road, and they are also visible on several of the bodies of victims of torture and murder in cellars in Bucha.
The fact that Ukrainian forces wear blue armbands, while Russian troops wear white ones, is universally accepted. A number of videos from various parts of the conflict zone also show civilians wearing white armbands, as a sign either of sympathy with the Russians or at least neutrality.
Thus the appearance of white armbands on the victims of 'the Bucha Massacre' is overwhelming evidence that the victims were ethnic Russians. They were murdered not by Russian troops - who were of course sent in with a key aim of stopping the persecution of Russian-speakers by racist neo-Nazis – but by Ukrainians.
This should come as no surprise, for the whole history of Ukrainian nationalism is based on the mass murder of ‘unclean’ and ‘sub-human’ civilians from other ethnic groups, most notably the Poles of Wolyn and Eastern Galicia, Jews, Hungarians, Romanians and, of course, Russians.
Finally, we come to the video clip from the streets of Bucha, which was posted and then removed from the social media account of the known Ukrainian neo-Nazi ‘Botman’: “There are guys without blue armbands. Can we shoot them?” “F**k, yeah!”
The truth of the massacre is so clear that we can see why Western leaders such as Boris Johnson are so adamant that there should not be a proper international investigation into the crime.
Instead, they are using the most blatant fake news to justify imposing another round of sanctions pain on their own people, and to excuse the sending of billions of pounds, dollars and euros worth of high-tech weapons in order to prolong the war. One has to wonder about the scale of the kick-backs these real war criminals are getting from their military-industrial complex cronies!
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Nević Nenad
The Living Force
Watching this war in Ukraine day by day and reviewing history of previous wars around the world plus recognizing the atrocities that have been done by the US and their "allies" caused me to remember some comments made in an early session by the Cs. It is not easy for me to enjoy the show without taking a step back. I am waiting to see how this will be resolved I suppose.
Session 7 November 1994:
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