Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

Just imagine, Stalingrad like battle as the propaganda states, village/mini town scale...no result yet since September/october🤦‍♂️
Someone is definitely creating a quagmire...


The founder of the private military company (PMCs) "Wagner" Yevgeny Prigozhin spoke about the situation in Artemovsk (Ukrainian name — Bakhmut). This is reported by RIA Novosti.

According to him, the fighters of the group advanced 170 meters in Artemovsk on Saturday and occupied 95.7 thousand square meters. "2.42 square kilometers remain under enemy control, the maximum advance was 170 meters. The enemy blew up several buildings in the center of the so—called nest, which they hold," he said. Prigozhin clarified that we are talking about a complex of high-rise buildings.

 
Yep, BUT the exchange rate, as from Abramovich’s infamous exchange, is 🤦‍♂️

The head of the OP, Andrei Ermak, said that as a result of today's exchange of prisoners of war, 42 "Azov soldiers" were returned to Ukraine: 35 privates and sergeants, 10 officers.
I think it is the wrong way to look at it. The exchange shows that the Russians value their soldiers more than the Ukrainians. Better 3 alive valuable prisoners than 3 dead ones, even if 42 Ukrainians POW was the price. The Russians have way more prisoners than the Ukrainians do, I suspect. One can say it isn't fair and that the Russians are bad at negotiating, but life is not always fair from our perspective and we don't know all the facts on the ground and what actually took place, far from it.
 
I find that take to be far too kind to Prigozhin. He is way out of line insulting Shoigu and Gerasimov like that. It's thanks to such diatribes that many (pro-Russia) people are literally entertaining the idea that the Russian high command is composed of people who are 'traitors to Russia'. Somehow, they manage to exclude Putin from this accusation, but that qualification is untenable: they're also, implicitly, because the big man clearly trusts Gerasimov and Shoigu, accusing Putin of treason.
The Alex's video which you posted earlier mentioned the same thing that this was way out of order. As they said, no military in the world would allow someone to go outside the command structure and attack those at the head of the military administration. They also mentioned that he likely has been too long on the front line and the stress of it shows. Another point they mentioned is, that a few days ago, a general from the Russian army was appointed deputy of Wagner and this might have caused Progozhin to get angry at being replaced as the actual leader of the group. In any case after what he said he will likely be replaced and put in the background and rightfully so, I think.
 
I think it is the wrong way to look at it. The exchange shows that the Russians value their soldiers more than the Ukrainians. Better 3 alive valuable prisoners than 3 dead ones, even if 42 Ukrainians POW was the price. The Russians have way more prisoners than the Ukrainians do, I suspect. One can say it isn't fair and that the Russians are bad at negotiating, but life is not always fair from our perspective and we don't know all the facts on the ground and what actually took place, far from it.
The pilots were always highly valued, agree on that. But, exchanging for Azov’s (nazi scumbags) - which will be returned to front straight away to kill more russians-is a controversial proportion change🤦‍♂️
 
But, exchanging for Azov’s (nazi scumbags) - which will be returned to front straight away to kill more russians-is a controversial proportion change🤦‍♂️
Yes, Azov is bad, but now after a year, have we not discovered that there are tens of thousands of Ukrainians who are fighting who are very like Azov as if the Azov virus has spread and multiplied. In other words, Azov guys don't stand out as they did in the beginning of being a few hard core nazis. Now there are thousands of them with a similar mindset, though they may not have the Azov badge.

As an aside, how would you have done it and if you come up with 3 for 3 as the fair thing, don't you think the Russians tried that? And then what would your strategy be to get them home when you discover that even repeating the demand did not produce anything new? Would you then prefer for these 3 pilots to die in some Ukrainian hell hole while feeding and housing the 42 Azov prisoners for the rest of their natural lives? Isn't it an example of Real-politik of doing the best in the given circumstance? Keep in mind that the exchange took 14 months to come to fruition after many false starts.
 

US, Ukraine to blame for terror attack against Prilepin – Russian MFA​


"MOSCOW, May 6. /TASS/. Washington and Kiev are primarily responsible for the terrorist attack against writer Zakhar Prilepin, the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement on Saturday."

"Responsibility for this and other terrorist acts lies not only with the Ukrainian authorities, but with their Western patrons, in the first place, the United States, who since the coup d'etat of February 2014 have painstakingly nurtured the anti-Russian neo-Nazi project in Ukraine," the statement reads. "The lack of Washington’s condemnation of another in a string of terrorist attacks against a Russian journalist and public figure is an act of self-exposure by the US authorities. The silence of international organizations concerned is impermissible."

 
Bioweapon programs - worries us even more. Invisible weapons of mass destruction🤯 but i hope that decision will be deterred with our counter potential...🙏
As an update, here is another briefing found on the Russian MoD, TG channel:

Briefing by Chief of Nuclear, Biological, and Chemical Protection Troops of Russian Armed Forces Colonel General Igor Kirillov on analysing documents related to military-biological activity of USA
May 05, 2023
The Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation continues to analyse the military and biological activities of the U.S. and its allies in Ukraine and other regions of the world
In the previous briefing, we drew your attention to the role of the U.S. Department of Energy in the Pentagon's bioweapons programmes. Today, I would like to elaborate on the materials that confirm this agency's involvement in dual-use projects in Ukraine.
For example, one of the Department's seventeen laboratories, the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Richland, Washington, worked directly in Ukraine as part of a project called 'The Proliferation Security Initiative'.
Pay attention to the official statement of John Stephen Binkley, director of the U.S. Department of Energy's Office of Scientific Research, dated 4 April 2022. The document stresses that the Office will assist the Ukrainian side in restoring the curtailed dual-use research programmes after the possible return of specialists.
The presented document confirms that one of the activities of the Department of Energy is the recruitment of specialists formerly working in Ukraine with experience and knowledge in the field of weapons of mass destruction.
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A key figure in the US Department of Energy projects in Ukraine was ex-Pacific Northwest National Laboratory Professor Richard Weller.
He supervised the implementation of Ukrainian projects to study diseases that can be transmitted from animals to humans, based at the Kiev Institute of Veterinary Medicine and the Institute of Experimental and Clinical Veterinary Medicine in Kharkov.
I would like to highlight the close cooperation between the Department of Energy and the U.S. Department of Defense. For example, the Department of Energy's Pacific Laboratory is headed by Stephen Ashby, who is also serving as vice president of Battelle, the Pentagon's main contractor.
The Ukrainian Science and Technology Centre (USTC) acted as an intermediary between the Department of Energy and Ukrainian research organisations.
It is to be recalled that it is the USTC and the International Science and Technology Centre (ISTC)'s responsibility to allocate the funds under the grant system. Ronald Lehman, chairman of the organisation's governing board, is also director of the Center for Global Security Studies at Livermore National Laboratory, which is also part of the United States Department of Energy.
The director of the Kiev office, Sawn Anderson, the U.S. embassy's energy attaché, is in charge of organising the department's research activities in Ukraine.
Thus, along with the Pentagon, the Department of Energy is a key organiser and customer of military-biological research in Ukraine and elsewhere in the world.
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It should be noted that more than a dozen dual-use 'P'-projects, such as (P-157, -316, -490, etc.) were organised with the direct involvement of the U.S. Department of Energy.
As part of these projects, genetic variability in areas of radioactive contamination, the spread of tuberculosis, and other mycobacterial infections, as well as economically important animal diseases such as African swine fever and classical swine fever were studied.
Let me remind you that in 2023 alone, the U.S. Department of Energy officially allocated $105 million for research in the Virtual Research Environment for Biohazard Preparedness project, which is supposed to study the specific epidemic spread of highly dangerous diseases.
So there is the question: 'What does the Department have to do with fighting against biological threats and implementing dual-use projects?'
The non-transparent nature of the DOE activities is underlined by the fact that it enjoys the exclusive right not to return unspent fiscal year allocations to the U.S. Treasury and to allocate them to unbudgeted future expenditures. A report from the U.S. Chamber of Accounts dated 25 July 2022 supports this fact.
This strategy permits limitless funding for U.S. military and biological programmes without the need for new requests to the U.S. Congress.
In support of this, I would like to quote American politician and likely U.S. presidential candidate Robert Kennedy. : '…[in the early 2000s, the Washington] started giving $2 billion a year to bioweapons development. The Penthagon didn't want to do it because it was nervous about the legality, ’cause it was a death penalty to violate the Geneva Convention'.
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The Russian Ministry of Defence has repeatedly highlighted the risks of the Pentagon's military-biological programmes to study the possibility of spreading economically significant infections through vectors, including migratory birds.
These worries are related to Ukraine's particular geographic location, where more than 270 species of migratory birds pass through and act as natural reservoirs for harmful diseases including highly deadly influenza and other infectious diseases.
Directly for the benefit of the U.S. military through the Ukrainian Science and Technology Centre, Project P-444 was implemented, the main purpose of which was to monitor avian influenza in wild birds from the Azov-Black Sea region.
The project assessed the conditions under which transmission could become unmanageable, cause economic damage and pose risks to food security.
It should be recalled that over the previous three years, avian influenza has cost the Russian Federation more than RUB 4.5 billion in damage and killed more than 10 million domestic birds. In Europe, agricultural losses due to the disease amounted to about €3 billion.
It is estimated that, while avian influenza used to be a seasonal disease in the European region, outbreaks are now registered all year round.
In addition, the World Health Organisation has regularly documented the interspecies transmission of highly pathogenic avian influenza with infectiousness and mortality of up to 50% in humans. This year alone, four such cases have been recorded in Chile, Cambodia, and China.
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Such facts make us reconsider the possible consequences of UP-4 project, which implied Ukrainian highly contagious strain gathering, capable of overcoming interspecies natural barrier.
I would like to point out, that the Western media and so-called ‘Russian experts’, performing research on foreign grants, skeptically commented possible global biological threats of such a project. It has been claimed that such researches are not 'dual-use' and are 'perfectly safe'. It was noted, I quote: ‘...the methods of Ukrainian scientists and their foreign colleagues are used by ornithologists around the world...’.
I have to remind you, that the Pentagon, which is unlikely interested in any bird migration research, is the main customer of UP-4 project. Moreover, at least two species of migratory birds passing mainly through the territory of Russia were identified and actively studied in the course of the research.
Efforts to evacuate and eliminate any results, as well as material gathering during the research, confirm the dual-use nature of the project. In addition to that, the project scientists have been pressured by the Security Service of Ukraine.
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Last week, the Russian Ministry of Defence and Russian Federal Security Service, as well as Rosselkhoznadzor (Federal Service for Veterinary and Phytosanitary Surveillance) conducted a research in the Falz-Fein Askania-Nova Biosphere Reserve (Kherson region).
A study of documents seized from the archive of the organisation's veterinary laboratory confirms that the Reserve's staff sampled and transferred biological material from migratory birds abroad until 2022.
The research was led by Denis Muzyka, the deputy director for international cooperation at the Kharkov Institute of Experimental and Clinical Veterinary Medicine. Viktor Gavrilenko and Aleksandr Mezinov, two employees of the Biosphere Reserve gathered and passed over migrating birds’ biological material.
During the Biosphere Reserve’s veterinary laboratories inspection, gross violations of biological safety requirements have been detected. Work was carried out in unequipped rooms, collections were not safeguarded or monitored, and in some cases highly pathogenic biomaterial was even stored at the homes of staff members.
Take note of the Reserve's poultry population's documented mass death in 2021, which experts believe was caused by an infectious disease. It cannot be ruled out that the overnight deaths were provoked by the experiments being carried out and a disregard for biosafety requirements.
At the same time, the hastily fled project participants after the liberation of the Kherson region offered the remaining employees to take out or destroy research archives, especially documentation confirming the fact of mass livestock death for a reward.
Therefore, the primary goals of the research conducted in Askania-Nova were to gather and transfer strains of particularly risky and costly infections to the U.S. military, analyse their potential effects on the local biological environment, and ascertain whether the chosen pathogens were capable of causing widespread human outbreaks (similar to the pandemic of a new coronavirus infection).
To achieve these goals, they ignored generally accepted biosafety standards and the requirements of basic international documents on the selection and transportation of pathogenic biomaterials.
I would like to stress once again that the Pentagon's moves to expand its military-biological presence in various regions of the world significantly increase the level of bio-threats.
However, given the scale of U.S. dual-use initiatives and the hazards to the world's biological security they present, it is necessary to conduct a thorough international review of U.S. military and biological operations.
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For details, you better contact Evgeny Viktorovich personally.
As for the FSO, this information was voiced by well-known Russian journalist Andrei Karaulov.

To the opening sentence: No comment.
There are many well-known journalists but it doesn't automatically make them good and/or trustworthy. Since you brought Karaulow as your source, here on this forum, I think I should assume he shared something to back up his claim. Could you elaborate or at least provide a link?

Am I correct that's the same Karaulov who gave an interview to Dmitry Gordon last year? The same who said that Putin would be gone in a year; Navalny is a true hero of today, would get Peace Nobel Price and VVP would have to pardon him (or something along the lines)?

I also read Wikipedia about the "Wagners". A lot of nonsense is written there, especially in the Russian version. Though it's probably even better for a secret military company.
What of that was nonsense? With arguments, please, I'd gladly learn something new. BTW, I am not particularly interested in whether you read Wikipedia; moreover, such a statement has no relevance or value - to put it mildly.
 
"Iron Dimon" is burning again. Although in fact he is right. The story of Salman Raduyev, one of the most frostbitten Chechen leaders of the 90s, comes to mind. He was sentenced to life in prison, as they wrote, "he tried to break the routine" and lived very short after that. Apparently, the compulsion to comply with the schedule was difficult.
Even those sentenced to life sometimes have accidents, — Medvedev

Deputy Chairman of the Security Council of the Russian Federation Medvedev spoke about the detainees in the case of the attempted murder of writer and volunteer Zakhar Prilepin, he did not forget about the precinct officers, thanks to whom the attackers were captured without delay.

"The employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, who detained the Ukronazists who committed the terrorist act against Zakhar Prilepin, are well done. As they say, in hot pursuit.

The criminals confessed that they were recruited by the special services of the Bandera state.

According to the criminal law, they, like other criminals, will be tried for a terrorist attack and sentenced to long terms of imprisonment.

But it is important that they and others like them realize a simple thing — even with those sentenced to life imprisonment (under a moratorium on the death penalty), accidents and accidents sometimes happen.

And then the long term of punishment is quickly interrupted for natural reasons due to the death of the prisoner. And this also has a great educational value for the new bastards who were hired for the murders," Dmitry Anatolyevich wrote in the author's Telegram channel.
https://rusvesna.su/news/1683451676

On the topic of American biolabs
Glaring facts about the activities of the Pentagon biological laboratory in Kherson

The acting governor of the Kherson region, Vladimir Saldo, in his Telegram channel publishes new data on American biological laboratories that secretly operated in Ukraine.

"Blatant facts about the activities of the Pentagon biological laboratory in Kherson continue to be revealed.

In 2015, shortly after the bloody Kiev coup, the Americans extended their tentacles to Ukraine, among other things, gaining control over many laboratories of the sanitary and epidemiological service.

There, their specialists engaged in their favorite business — the search for ways to mass murder people, in this case — with the help of pathogens. And the sanitary and epidemiological service in Ukraine was then closed so as not to interfere.

Now our Ministry of Defense has found out that not only the Pentagon investigated the strains of particularly dangerous diseases in Kherson, studying their effects on people with Slavic genes.

The US Department of Energy investigated the possibility of spreading avian influenza epidemics among people using migratory birds. Do you remember the mass death of birds in the Kherson region, including red books, in 2021? Then why it happened reliably has not been found out. It is now clear that one of the most likely reasons was American experiments on birds.

However, the worst thing is that the purpose of the experiment was to transmit avian flu to people.

That is, these sadists would consider it successful if an epidemic of avian flu began among Kherson residents. At first they failed, but, as lawyers say, they did not finish their crime due to circumstances beyond their control: at the beginning of 2022, Russian troops came to Kherson.

American “doctors Mengele” fled the city, destroying a significant part of the evidence. But not all of them. The horrifying truth continues to be revealed."
https://rusvesna.su/news/1683383145

The authorities reacted to the attack. It's good.
After the attack on the Kremlin, Rosgvardiya employees were given anti-drone guns
Rosgvardiya employees were armed with anti-drone guns.

Anti-drone guns were issued to the employees of the Russian Guard to ensure security at upcoming events related to the Victory Parade. This is a precautionary measure aimed at protecting the territory from possible threats from unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

According to the information, anti-drone guns were issued to employees of the Rosgvardiya, who will be on duty at the rehearsal of the Victory Parade on May 7 and the most festive event on May 9. Each crew was given one gun with instructions for use.

In addition to anti-drone guns, Rosgvardiya employees also received binoculars for more effective detection and tracking of UAVs. This decision was made after the recent incident with the drone attack on the Kremlin.

The safety of the participants and spectators of the Victory Parade is a priority for the organizers and law enforcement agencies. The issuance of anti-drone guns and binoculars to Rosgvardiya employees will help to detect and eliminate possible threats from drones in a timely manner.

Anti-drone guns are special equipment designed to neutralize and shoot down remotely controlled UAVs. Their use makes it possible to neutralize the threat from drones, which can be used for surveillance, information gathering and attacks.

Ensuring security at mass events such as the Victory Day Parade is extremely important to prevent possible incidents and preserve public order.
После атаки на Кремль сотрудникам Росгвардии выдали антидроновые ружья

Perhaps it will be quieter in Crimea for a while.
A powerful blow was struck at the Shkolny airfield in Odessa
A powerful blow was struck at the Ukrainian military airfield.

There are reports of a strike on the Shkolny military airfield in Odessa. At the moment, there is no information about the specific targets hit, but it is known that before the outbreak of hostilities, about 20 MiG-29 fighters, Mi-8 helicopters and transport aircraft were based on the airfield.

According to some reports, the Shkolny airfield served as a collection point for PD-1, PD-2 and UJ-22 unmanned aerial vehicles, which were allegedly used for attacks on the Crimea. The location of the airfield near Odessa airport, with a runway length of 2.8 thousand meters, allows you to launch unmanned vehicles of various types from there.

In the area of midnight at the disposal of journalists Avia.there was information that the airfield was indeed hit, however, so far it is not possible to document the damage.

The attack on the Shkolny airfield could be a serious blow to the capabilities of the Ukrainian side to use aviation and unmanned vehicles for military operations. The damage caused as a result of the strike and its impact on the further actions of the armed forces in the region will depend on the scale of the attack and the accuracy of hitting targets.

It should be noted that the use of drones in military conflicts is becoming increasingly relevant, since they allow you to perform reconnaissance and strike tasks without direct human involvement. In this regard, the attack on the Shkolny airfield may be aimed at reducing the potential of the Ukrainian armed forces in the use of remotely controlled aircraft.
По аэродрому Школьный в Одессе нанесён мощный удар

"Железный Димон" опять жжет. Хотя фактически он прав. На память приходит история Салмана Радуева, одного из самых отмороженных чеченских лидеров 90х. Он был осужден пожизненно, в заключении, как писали, "пытался нарушать распорядок" и прожил после этого весьма недолго. Видимо тяжёлое было принуждение к соблюдению распорядка.
Возможно на какое то время в Крыму станет потише.
 
Dear forumites, apologize for such an emotional and slangish excerpt from the post from TG (sorry can’t give the link, it was a private message resent from some TG channel)-but it perfectly shows righteous anger of russian people on what is going on now😡

"The Wagner PMCs and its volunteers should come under the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, then there will be no problems with supplies," State Duma Deputy Viktor Sobolev said. "In principle, we should not have these private military campaigns. Everyone must obey a single command. Everything should be centralized," the Lieutenant General said.

To give a shit so much by the scruff of your neck, as Sobolev did with this statement, you need to have an exceptional talent or even a genius in this matter.


That is, he managed to declare suddenly objectionable a project created by the Russian government and the military leadership, located on the basis of the official military unit of the Russian Defense Ministry, about the legalization of which all deputies sang in chorus and praised what a useful and effective project it was.

At the same time, he actually recognized the fact that Russian volunteers are dying due to sabotage of ammunition supplies, because according to the offended leaders of the Ministry of Defense (I can't call them officers or even bosses), the legal status of these volunteers does not correspond to the one in which they will be allowed to receive ammunition to perform combat missions that they started voluntarily, standing up for the defense of the Motherland?

....NOW IT'S JUST THAT VOLUNTEERS WILL START TO BREAK CONTRACTS AND RETURN HOME AFTER SUCH ROT, WHICH CLIMBS OUT OF ALL THE CRACKS.

And without volunteers, you're fucked.

Because thanks to the level of the officer school that you created as the basis of the stinking swamp that you dared to call the Russian army, volunteers perform the role of specialists / consultants / instructors, etc. where it should be done by officers who not infrequently resemble Chinese tourists, once in the war, look around in confusion and try to find a guide to explain everything.

Do you know why?

Because while you were licking each other's asses, selling the country and pulling the army apart, these very Russian volunteers, whom you cocksuckers are now sacrificing, realizing your ambitions or resentments, went through an average of two to four military conflicts in the interests of the Russian Federation in different parts of the world. VOLUNTARILY.

And let at least one whore shut up about the fact that they did it for money, so it doesn't count. The money that was paid for such work was a stretch and was not always enough to upgrade equipment and equipment and improve health between business trips. These people went to war from time to time, because their hearts demanded to fight in the interests of the motherland. You faggots will never understand this.

Russia will not lose in this war, even in spite of how these creatures help our enemies.
 
I always appreciate Big Serge’s insights and opinions, but I especially appreciate this one regarding Prigozhin.
Yep. Simplicius the Thinker had an excellent reasoned and balanced take on it in his Substack, as well.

I find that take to be far too kind to Prigozhin. He is way out of line insulting Shoigu and Gerasimov like that. It's thanks to such diatribes that many (pro-Russia) people are literally entertaining the idea that the Russian high command is composed of people who are 'traitors to Russia'. Somehow, they manage to exclude Putin from this accusation, but that qualification is untenable: they're also, implicitly, because the big man clearly trusts Gerasimov and Shoigu, accusing Putin of treason.
Unfortunately, it seems that the MoD decided to humour Prigozhin's little temper tantrum, which may do nothing to discourage any unseemly ambitions that may be lurking. It may be in Shoigu's best interests for him to have a pointed word with Gerasimov. Still, with the expertise of Surovikin entering the picture to help liase with Wagner, this can only keep the larger Mission well on track.

In any case after what he said he will likely be replaced and put in the background and rightfully so, I think.
Hmm, not so sure of this after observation of events today. One thing's for sure, my estimation for Kadyrov has only grown. Here's his statement regarding the attack on the Kremlin:

Ramzan Kadyrov said:
An attack on the Kremlin is nothing more than a provocation and a compulsion to more massive actions - a favorite technique of modern hybrid wars and Western generals, the results of which are beneficial for the provocateurs themselves.

The chain of subsequent statements and veiled stuffing in the media were supposed to hurt the ambitions of the organizers and push the Supreme Commander of Russia to more large-scale and brutal actions in Ukraine, for example, mass carpet bombing of cities. This would be followed by regular articles about injured civilians and similar pro-liberal statements about the aggressor country from the mouth of the Kiev Nazis.

I admire the restraint and wisdom of Vladimir Vladimirovich, who did not succumb to this vile provocation. But the organizers will have to answer for this act, no matter what hemisphere of the Earth they are on. Let not today, not tomorrow, but those involved in this action will suffer a just, deserved punishment. In the meantime, it's too early. It is too early, because justice in the world community today is buried by the interests of the aggressor country, the only one of its kind in the world, which has been bending the institutions of independence, interests and rights of other countries for years.
If I had to fight in one of Russia's battalions, it would be the Akhmat special forces.

I am publishing this article for the sake of one photo. Don't be lazy, open the link below and see what beauties came to the reception at the French Embassy. They say that for some reason the French did not appreciate it, apparently not everyone has gone crazy yet. Although the article itself is just about the half-witted actions of Western politicians and diplomats. I was very impressed with the unaccustomed and could not help but share with you.
"Beautiful!" 😂 🤦‍♂️
 
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Prigozhin: PMCs "Wagner" promised to give ammunition "to continue further actions"

Yevgeny Prigozhin said that the Wagnerians will receive the ammunition necessary to continue the fighting, and the deputy commander of the united group of troops Surovikin will be responsible for the interaction of the PMCs with the Ministry of Defense

more on rbc:

Hopefully it will close the deal. But is it normal attitude to war for the Russia as it is?
 
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