Putin Recognizes Donbass Republics, Sends Russian Military to 'Denazify' Ukraine

[gottathink]

Yeah, it is kind of the MO. Like when things soured for many oligarchs in Russia, armed with dual passports. they fled to the holy-land with their booty, although London was also a destination.

Perfect, all the psychopaths can gather together and bring about their own natural demise.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

"Doomed to fail": The EU has a plan to "frustrate" the US into withdrawing from its peace plan for Ukraine.

Voila! The 28-point peace plan as everyone saw it no longer exists, some points have been removed, others have been amended, Oleksandr Bevz, advisor to the head of the Ukrainian President's office said.

 

[youlik]

Trump's plans for Ukraine, Europe plan, Kiev plan - such a fuss is happening. Putin said that Russia was satisfied with the course of the military campaign, and now directly this was probably in order to make less fuss.

Personally, I am somewhat surprised by a couple of points in connection with the emerging "peace" plans.
The first point is that the plans include some commitments from NATO. Thus, NATO is formally declared a participant in the conflict (informally, it has long been clear to everyone), and then where are Russia's retaliatory actions against formal enemies? Maybe the expected Oreshnik will fly somewhere towards London, Paris, Berlin?
The second point is the "cunning" of the Americans. They have already divided up the Russian frozen assets in their plans and "modestly" allocated half of the income from future investments to themselves. There are also supposed to be some negotiations between NATO and Russia with the mediation of the United States. How do you like it? A key NATO member suddenly becomes a mediator.
It is also very significant, although quite predictable, that in their "plans" ukrops first demanded an "indulgence" in the form of an obligation not to pursue them and to withdraw all claims against them.

The airspace over the Kapustin Yar training ground is closed until November 30, as new Oreshnik strikes are expected in Ukraine
The airspace over the Kapustin Yar landfill in the Astrakhan region of Russia is closed until November 30, 2025. The restriction is related to conducting tests, including possible missile launches.

Ukrainian resources, including Telegram channels associated with military circles, express expectations regarding the launches of the Russian Oreshnik ballistic missile. This missile, capable of reaching speeds of more than Mach 10 and equipped with separable warheads, was already used on November 21, 2024, against the Dnieper, which caused prolonged explosions.

The closure of the airspace confirms the activity at the landfill, previously identified by OSINT analysts.

Spoiler: Russian spelling

Планы Трампа Европы, Киева- такая суета происходит. Путин сказал, что Россию устраивает ход военной кампании и теперь вот это, наверно для того, чтобы суетиться бестолку поменьше стали.
Меня лично несколько удивляет пара моментов в связи с возникающими "мирными" планами.
Первый момент это то, что в планах предусмотрены некоторые обязательства со стороны НАТО. Таким образом НАТО формально объявляется участником конфликта (неформально это давно всем понятно) и где тогда ответные действия России против формальных врагов? Может ожидаемый Орешник полетит куда-нибудь в сторону Лондона, Парижа, Берлина?
Второй момент это "хитрожопость" американцев. Они в своих планах уже поделили российские замороженные активы и "скромно" отчислили себе половину доходов от будущих инвестиций. А также предполагаются некие переговоры между НАТО и Россией при посредничестве США. Как вам это нравится? Ключевой член НАТО вдруг становится посредником.
Так же весьма показательно хотя и вполне предсказуемо, что в своих "планах" укропы первым делом потребовали себе "индульгенцию" в виде обязательства не преследовать их и снять вообще все претензии в их адрес.

 

[sToRmR1dR]

After peace is reached, there will be no peace in Ukraine, as the "coalition of the willing" intends to deploy forces on the ground to provide training and ensure security.

 

[mantle]

Love is the only doctrine , compassion the only ritual and awakening the only way . [ " The aim is the realisation of one's nothingness." Gurdieff ].

 

[Gawan]

According to ABC-news Ukraine agreed on the conditions of the peace plan, according to an unnamed U.S. official. Unfortunately, I'm not holding my breath until it is signed for real, with these back-and-forths of Trump politics in the past and not even considering Zelenskyy and his ilk.

A US official privy to negotiations is claiming major progress Tuesday, telling ABC News the Ukrainian delegation has agreed to the United States' potential peace plan, at a moment it's still being hotly debated, especially among the Europeans.

"The Ukrainians have agreed to the peace deal," the US official said, but without specifying much in the way of details. "There are some minor details to be sorted out but they have agreed to a peace deal."

Ukraine Tentatively Agrees To Trump-Backed Peace Plan

A US official privy to negotiations is claiming major progress Tuesday, telling ABC News the Ukrainian delegation has agreed to the United States' potential peace plan, at a moment it's still being hotly debated, especially among the Europeans....

www.sott.net

 

[Ben]

The changes to the peace plan (especially the cap on the Ukrainian army rising to 800, 000, and Article 5 style security guarantees) means that now Russia will be unable to accept it. Round and round it goes. Whichever side is presented as the obstacle to peace, the US will threaten with the same consequences they have already failed to impose. They have therefore lost any meaning they had. Meanwhile Ukraine's defence collapses and the gang in power weighs up its options, all of which are self serving.