Question for C's re: dreaming

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Hi all, I'm new but I'd like to mention a theory and ask those that can (Laura et al) to ask the C's about this, not for any sort of self-gratification but to get any kind of answer to see if it is the right track.

The theory:

All humans dream (Adamics, don't know about OPs??) and it is necessary to our sanity, and I believe to our soul function.

I happen to dream in color, and have noticed that some 'people' in my dreams look perfectly normal until I approach them and try to interact with them. It is then that I notice that they have no face, i.e., it is just a blank flesh-colored slate - no contours, no facial bone structure. This is in contrast to the rest of them - their hair is made of individual strands in some style, their clothing and every other visible part of their body is perfectly represented.

I have concluded that these 'people' are merely constructs of my mind present to 'flesh-out' the scenario in my dream (such as a concert). All people that I am able to interact with in my dreams have faces - I can look into their eyes and see them; they can speak and respond to me. Many times I have experienced that a 'real person' in my dream symbolized (or at least I 'recognized' them as) someone that I know in waking life, even though in the dream they looked completely different. My mom has a certain vibration that will always be recognizable to me, no matter what her age... in real life, but what about in a dream? Is it 'really' her or someone else (somewhere else on our planet) representing her?

Secondly, (speaking only for myself and my own experience) when I awake from a night in which I do not remember dreaming I do not feel as rested or refreshed. Given that I am not prone to nightmares and greatly enjoy the dreamtime, I would much rather dream than not.

With that said, and the knowledge of human nature (selfish!), it is my hypothesis is multipart:

Since we humans require dreaming to maintain our sanity (and probably soul equilibruim?), it is a necessity. My theory is that the 'real people' in our dreams are other people (not OPs) on Earth who are participating in our dream. Since we are inherently selfish beings and would probably rather have pleasant recuperative dreaming nights, on the days when we have awoken from what seems to be a dreamless night perhaps were were participating in another person's dream, taking on the role of someone that they know in waking life (or some other character integral to their dream). Further, because we cannot be trusted to do this on a voluntary, altruistic basis, so there may be some compulsion (based some kind of rotational lottery system?) that ensures our participation on a certain basis. In this way, each person is assured of other real people participating in their dreams and compelled, at some interval, to participate in other real people's dreams. This forces a certain type of interaction between people that is otherwise not possible in waking life due to geographical or socio-economic/policital constraints.
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Is it possible to pass this on to ask the C's?

As well I am interested in other people's thoughts on this theory.
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As a side note, I wonder if anyone else has had this experience: having multiple dreams occurring simultaneously? For example, 4 dreams happening at one time, rather like 4 movie screens:

Screen 1, Scenes 1-3
Screen 2, Scenes 1-2
Screen 3, Scenes 1-3
Screen 4, Scenes 1-2

Screen 1, Scene 4
Screen 3, Scene 4-5
Screen 4, Scene 3
Screen 2, Scenes 3-6

et cetera...

It was all happening simultaneously, which is a little difficult to describe in text format, but experienced not the same as having 4 separate screens which required the eyes to flicker between them, more like being able to put fingers on keys of a piano while listening to the combined music. It was terribly exciting but it hasn't happened in a while, at least that I can remember. Heavy medication removes many dream memories for me lately, sadly.
 
I once had a lucid dream where I took advantage of the opportunity to observe my surroundings, knowing full well I was dreaming but in control of my perception. Having observed my immediate surroundings with curiosity, I then looked further away and noticed three individuals dressed in cloaks with hoods, walking in single file across my view. I focused on them, particularly their unusual grey faces—or rather, their lack of features except for their eyes. Then I heard them, though they were silent, say, "He spotted us. Don't look at him; let's move away." That impression startled me, jolting me out of my dream state and waking me up in a slight panic, thinking, "Okay, what was that, or who were they? Were they spying on me, feeding off my dreams, or feeding on my emotions?" I would like wise care to know if this experience reveals how we interrelated with others, or how parasitic entities feed off of us, are their more hidden worlds to this experiences then we imagine.
 
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I can say from experience that some of my dreams have had a 4d STS vibe to them. They didn't reveal themselves explicitly in dreams, but I sensed something "alien" to the tone of them. I think it's a symptom of our weakness as 3d STS beings; we can't stop them from interfering with us when in sleep. Obviously there's the human subconscious to dig through in these cases also, but I definitely believe that they can infiltrate our minds when asleep.
 
Sometimes a dream doesn’t necessarily have to have a meaning, sometimes is just our subconscious processing information in an abstract way, sometimes is just a repetitive thought that we generate right before sleep from something we see or read, other times is depending on the chemical necessity of our body. There are people who barely remember dreams or don’t dream at all according to them but have done sleep study and it shows that they do dream. I think one can train our mind to remember dreams by keeping a diary and notate what you dreamed about as soon as you wake up. Many times those dreams that do have significance are not literal.
I think for those who have their antenna fully developed or OPs maybe they just have fantasies or dreams that don’t convey karmic meanings, compare to those who does have a full soul, who knows. I don’t think is the same formula for everyone but there are shared patterns that can be symbolism of something similar for everyone, for example when we dream about losing teeth’s or with specific animals, things like that, I think in cases like that, is our antena picking up on signals of information about things that maybe needs our attention and gets translated like that type of dreams because of our limited comprehension or our familiar reality.
Sometimes we can dream on experiences lived in parallel realities, or from our experiences in a different life etc. So to your thinking, yes I think everyone dreams, even animals, and they are in 2D.
 
Dreams, a fascinating phenomenon experienced by both humans and animals, serve a variety of neurological and evolutionary purposes, yet some perspectives suggest they may also connect us to other dimensions or spiritual realms. During REM sleep, when vivid dreams occur, the brain consolidates memories, strengthening neural pathways for significant experiences while filtering out irrelevant details, a process vital for learning in both humans and animals. Dreams also aid emotional regulation, with the amygdala’s heightened activity enabling the processing of complex emotions in a safe dream environment, potentially preparing individuals for real-world challenges. For humans, dreams can spark creativity and problem-solving by forging novel connections between ideas, sometimes leading to profound insights. The threat simulation theory proposes that dreams evolved to rehearse survival scenarios, such as conflicts or predator-prey interactions, enhancing adaptive skills in both species. Additionally, dreams support cognitive maintenance by interpreting random neural activity, keeping brain circuits active, and in young animals, they promote neural development and plasticity. Beyond these scientific explanations, some believe dreams may act as a bridge to other dimensions or the "higher self," a spiritual aspect of consciousness that offers guidance or insight from a more evolved state of being. In this view, dreams could allow certain individuals to tap into universal knowledge or connect with benevolent entities. Conversely, there’s a belief that some dreams might be influenced by self-serving beings or lower-dimensional entities projecting dramas to manipulate the mind, sowing fear or confusion to serve their own agendas. These metaphysical perspectives suggest that dreams are not only a product of the brain but also a potential interface with unseen realms, where the nature of the dream—whether enlightening or manipulative—depends on the dreamer’s spiritual alignment and discernment. Together, these diverse functions—memory consolidation, emotional processing, survival rehearsal, neural maintenance, and possible interdimensional connections—underscore the profound role of dreams in shaping cognitive, adaptive, and even spiritual dimensions of existence for both humans and animals. And possibly for souls in the after life, or as a working reality in other dimensions,
 
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ivanb said:
Dreams, a fascinating phenomenon experienced by both humans and animals, serve a variety of neurological and evolutionary purposes, yet some perspectives suggest they may also connect us to other dimensions or spiritual realms. During REM sleep, when vivid dreams occur, the brain consolidates memories, strengthening neural pathways for significant experiences while filtering out irrelevant details, a process vital for learning in both humans and animals. Dreams also aid emotional regulation, with the amygdala’s heightened activity enabling the processing of complex emotions in a safe dream environment, potentially preparing individuals for real-world challenges. For humans, dreams can spark creativity and problem-solving by forging novel connections between ideas, sometimes leading to profound insights. The threat simulation theory proposes that dreams evolved to rehearse survival scenarios, such as conflicts or predator-prey interactions, enhancing adaptive skills in both species. Additionally, dreams support cognitive maintenance by interpreting random neural activity, keeping brain circuits active, and in young animals, they promote neural development and plasticity. Beyond these scientific explanations, some believe dreams may act as a bridge to other dimensions or the "higher self," a spiritual aspect of consciousness that offers guidance or insight from a more evolved state of being. In this view, dreams could allow certain individuals to tap into universal knowledge or connect with benevolent entities. Conversely, there’s a belief that some dreams might be influenced by self-serving beings or lower-dimensional entities projecting dramas to manipulate the mind, sowing fear or confusion to serve their own agendas. These metaphysical perspectives suggest that dreams are not only a product of the brain but also a potential interface with unseen realms, where the nature of the dream—whether enlightening or manipulative—depends on the dreamer’s spiritual alignment and discernment. Together, these diverse functions—memory consolidation, emotional processing, survival rehearsal, neural maintenance, and possible interdimensional connections—underscore the profound role of dreams in shaping cognitive, adaptive, and even spiritual dimensions of existence for both humans and animals. And possibly for souls in the after life, or as a working reality in other dimensions,
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@ivanb, are you using an AI to write your messages?
 
axj said:
@ivanb, are you using an AI to write your messages?
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I have been using AI lately to correct my grammar and spelling, and forcing it to layer research based on reference points, this last post as you can guess was generated by layering several questions and consolidating bullet points then asking it to generate the final article at a university level short essay. I was to tired to completely right it, but was compelled to bring my concept across in a reasonable maner, so I tried pushing AI for the final result.
Although it appeared to do my bidding, I am wondering, if I become to reliant on its abilities, that my own writing will be compromised, yet learning to push it's immediate boundaries beyond its programmed naratives, and layer results of answers is time saving, and educational on my part. I'm hopping to bring added value to the table for the readers. But please let me know if you believe this is helpful or perhaps contrived, I am still not to sure how I feel about having AI doing more than expected will be benificial, or if this experiment could push the boundaries towards more insights and creativity. Let me know
 
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ivanb said:
I am still not to sure how I feel about having AI doing more than expected will be benificial, or if this experiment could push the boundaries towards more insights and creativity. Let me know
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I think that it is better to mark AI content as such, or otherwise you sound like an AI. In other words, make it clear where it is your own words and where it is something AI-generated.
 
axj said:
I think that it is better to mark AI content as such, or otherwise you sound like an AI. In other words, make it clear where it is your own words and where it is something AI-generated.
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"Thanks, Axj! I certainly don't want to come across sounding like a clever robot, even though I feel like the Borg is sucking me in on my weaker days."
 
ivanb said:
"Thanks, Axj! I certainly don't want to come across sounding like a clever robot, even though I feel like the Borg is sucking me in on my weaker days."
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Did you just use AI again? Why did you put the above in quotation marks?
 
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Did you just use AI again? Why did you put the above in quotation marks?
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This is my original
I have been using AI lately to correct my grammar and spelling, and forcing it to layer research based on reference points, this last post as you can guess was generated by layering several questions and consolidating bullet points then asking it to generate the final article at a university level short essay. I was to tired to completely right it, but was compelled to bring my concept across in a reasonable maner, so I tried pushing AI for the final result.

Although it appeared to do my bidding, I am wondering, if I become to reliant on its abilities, that my own writing will be compromised, yet learning to push it's immediate boundaries beyond its programmed naratives, and layer results of answers is time saving, and educational on my part. I'm hopping to bring added value to the table for the readers. But please let me know if you believe this is helpful or perhaps contrived, I am still not to sure how I feel about having AI doing more than expected will be benificial, or if this experiment could push the boundaries towards more insights and create

Thanks axj, I certainly do not want to come across sounding like a clever robot, despite feeling like the Borg is sucking me in on my weaker days.



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Question for C's re: dreaming​

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FreeFlow​

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Hi all, I'm new but I'd like to mention a theory and ask those that can (Laura et al) to ask the C's about this, not for any sort of self-gratification but to get any kind of answer to see if it is the right track.

The theory:

All humans dream (Adamics, don't know about OPs??) and it is necessary to our sanity, and I believe to our soul function.

I happen to dream in color, and have noticed that some 'people' in my dreams look perfectly normal until I approach them and try to interact with them. It is then that I notice that they have no face, i.e., it is just a blank flesh-colored slate - no contours, no facial bone structure. This is in contrast to the rest of them - their hair is made of individual strands in some style, their clothing and every other visible part of their body is perfectly represented.

I have concluded that these 'people' are merely constructs of my mind present to 'flesh-out' the scenario in my dream (such as a concert). All people that I am able to interact with in my dreams have faces - I can look into their eyes and see them; they can speak and respond to me. Many times I have experienced that a 'real person' in my dream symbolized (or at least I 'recognized' them as) someone that I know in waking life, even though in the dream they looked completely different. My mom has a certain vibration that will always be recognizable to me, no matter what her age... in real life, but what about in a dream? Is it 'really' her or someone else (somewhere else on our planet) representing her?

Secondly, (speaking only for myself and my own experience) when I awake from a night in which I do not remember dreaming I do not feel as rested or refreshed. Given that I am not prone to nightmares and greatly enjoy the dreamtime, I would much rather dream than not.

With that said, and the knowledge of human nature (selfish!), it is my hypothesis is multipart:

Since we humans require dreaming to maintain our sanity (and probably soul equilibruim?), it is a necessity. My theory is that the 'real people' in our dreams are other people (not OPs) on Earth who are participating in our dream. Since we are inherently selfish beings and would probably rather have pleasant recuperative dreaming nights, on the days when we have awoken from what seems to be a dreamless night perhaps were were participating in another person's dream, taking on the role of someone that they know in waking life (or some other character integral to their dream). Further, because we cannot be trusted to do this on a voluntary, altruistic basis, so there may be some compulsion (based some kind of rotational lottery system?) that ensures our participation on a certain basis. In this way, each person is assured of other real people participating in their dreams and compelled, at some interval, to participate in other real people's dreams. This forces a certain type of interaction between people that is otherwise not possible in waking life due to geographical or socio-economic/policital constraints.
---------------------------------------------
Is it possible to pass this on to ask the C's?

As well I am interested in other people's thoughts on this theory.
-------------------------------------------------
As a side note, I wonder if anyone else has had this experience: having multiple dreams occurring simultaneously? For example, 4 dreams happening at one time, rather like 4 movie screens:

Screen 1, Scenes 1-3
Screen 2, Scenes 1-2
Screen 3, Scenes 1-3
Screen 4, Scenes 1-2

Screen 1, Scene 4
Screen 3, Scene 4-5
Screen 4, Scene 3
Screen 2, Scenes 3-6

et cetera...

It was all happening simultaneously, which is a little difficult to describe in text format, but experienced not the same as having 4 separate screens which required the eyes to flicker between them, more like being able to put fingers on keys of a piano while listening to the combined music. It was terribly exciting but it hasn't happened in a while, at least that I can remember. Heavy medication removes many dream memories for me lately, sadly.




Paranthas​

The Force is Strong With This One​

I can attest that when I wake up not remembering a bit of my dreams usually I have not rested well and generally can´t wait to day ending to go to bed and get some restful night and possibly remember my dream.



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ivanb​

Jedi​

I once had a lucid dream where I took advantage of the opportunity to observe my surroundings, knowing full well I was dreaming but in control of my perception. Having observed my immediate surroundings with curiosity, I then looked further away and noticed three individuals dressed in cloaks with hoods, walking in single file across my view. I focused on them, particularly their unusual grey faces—or rather, their lack of features except for their eyes. Then I heard them, though they were silent, say, "He spotted us. Don't look at him; let's move away." That impression startled me, jolting me out of my dream state and waking me up in a slight panic, thinking, "Okay, what was that, or who were they? Were they spying on me, feeding off my dreams, or feeding on my emotions?" I would like wise care to know if this experience reveals how we interrelated with others, or how parasitic entities feed off of us, are their more hidden worlds to this experiences then we imagine.

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I can say from experience that some of my dreams have had a 4d STS vibe to them. They didn't reveal themselves explicitly in dreams, but I sensed something "alien" to the tone of them. I think it's a symptom of our weakness as 3d STS beings; we can't stop them from interfering with us when in sleep. Obviously there's the human subconscious to dig through in these cases also, but I definitely believe that they can infiltrate our minds when asleep.



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irjO​

The Living Force​



Sometimes a dream doesn’t necessarily have to have a meaning, sometimes is just our subconscious processing information in an abstract way, sometimes is just a repetitive thought that we generate right before sleep from something we see or read, other times is depending on the chemical necessity of our body. There are people who barely remember dreams or don’t dream at all according to them but have done sleep study and it shows that they do dream. I think one can train our mind to remember dreams by keeping a diary and notate what you dreamed about as soon as you wake up. Many times those dreams that do have significance are not literal.
I think for those who have their antenna fully developed or OPs maybe they just have fantasies or dreams that don’t convey karmic meanings, compare to those who does have a full soul, who knows. I don’t think is the same formula for everyone but there are shared patterns that can be symbolism of something similar for everyone, for example when we dream about losing teeth’s or with specific animals, things like that, I think in cases like that, is our antena picking up on signals of information about things that maybe needs our attention and gets translated like that type of dreams because of our limited comprehension or our familiar reality.
Sometimes we can dream on experiences lived in parallel realities, or from our experiences in a different life etc. So to your thinking, yes I think everyone dreams, even animals, and they are in 2D.



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irjO​

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irjO said:
I think for those who have their antenna fully developed or OPs
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I meant to say: for those who don’t not have the antenna fully developed.



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ivanb​

Jedi​

Dreams, a fascinating phenomenon experienced by both humans and animals, serve a variety of neurological and evolutionary purposes, yet some perspectives suggest they may also connect us to other dimensions or spiritual realms. During REM sleep, when vivid dreams occur, the brain consolidates memories, strengthening neural pathways for significant experiences while filtering out irrelevant details, a process vital for learning in both humans and animals. Dreams also aid emotional regulation, with the amygdala’s heightened activity enabling the processing of complex emotions in a safe dream environment, potentially preparing individuals for real-world challenges. For humans, dreams can spark creativity and problem-solving by forging novel connections between ideas, sometimes leading to profound insights. The threat simulation theory proposes that dreams evolved to rehearse survival scenarios, such as conflicts or predator-prey interactions, enhancing adaptive skills in both species. Additionally, dreams support cognitive maintenance by interpreting random neural activity, keeping brain circuits active, and in young animals, they promote neural development and plasticity. Beyond these scientific explanations, some believe dreams may act as a bridge to other dimensions or the "higher self," a spiritual aspect of consciousness that offers guidance or insight from a more evolved state of being. In this view, dreams could allow certain individuals to tap into universal knowledge or connect with benevolent entities. Conversely, there’s a belief that some dreams might be influenced by self-serving beings or lower-dimensional entities projecting dramas to manipulate the mind, sowing fear or confusion to serve their own agendas. These metaphysical perspectives suggest that dreams are not only a product of the brain but also a potential interface with unseen realms, where the nature of the dream—whether enlightening or manipulative—depends on the dreamer’s spiritual alignment and discernment. Together, these diverse functions—memory consolidation, emotional processing, survival rehearsal, neural maintenance, and possible interdimensional connections—underscore the profound role of dreams in shaping cognitive, adaptive, and even spiritual dimensions of existence for both humans and animals. And possibly for souls in the after life, or as a working reality in other dimensions,

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ivanb said:
Dreams, a fascinating phenomenon experienced by both humans and animals, serve a variety of neurological and evolutionary purposes, yet some perspectives suggest they may also connect us to other dimensions or spiritual realms. During REM sleep, when vivid dreams occur, the brain consolidates memories, strengthening neural pathways for significant experiences while filtering out irrelevant details, a process vital for learning in both humans and animals. Dreams also aid emotional regulation, with the amygdala’s heightened activity enabling the processing of complex emotions in a safe dream environment, potentially preparing individuals for real-world challenges. For humans, dreams can spark creativity and problem-solving by forging novel connections between ideas, sometimes leading to profound insights. The threat simulation theory proposes that dreams evolved to rehearse survival scenarios, such as conflicts or predator-prey interactions, enhancing adaptive skills in both species. Additionally, dreams support cognitive maintenance by interpreting random neural activity, keeping brain circuits active, and in young animals, they promote neural development and plasticity. Beyond these scientific explanations, some believe dreams may act as a bridge to other dimensions or the "higher self," a spiritual aspect of consciousness that offers guidance or insight from a more evolved state of being. In this view, dreams could allow certain individuals to tap into universal knowledge or connect with benevolent entities. Conversely, there’s a belief that some dreams might be influenced by self-serving beings or lower-dimensional entities projecting dramas to manipulate the mind, sowing fear or confusion to serve their own agendas. These metaphysical perspectives suggest that dreams are not only a product of the brain but also a potential interface with unseen realms, where the nature of the dream—whether enlightening or manipulative—depends on the dreamer’s spiritual alignment and discernment. Together, these diverse functions—memory consolidation, emotional processing, survival rehearsal, neural maintenance, and possible interdimensional connections—underscore the profound role of dreams in shaping cognitive, adaptive, and even spiritual dimensions of existence for both humans and animals. And possibly for souls in the after life, or as a working reality in other dimensions,
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@ivanb, are you using an AI to write your messages?



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ivanb​

Jedi​

axj said:
@ivanb, are you using an AI to write your messages?
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I have been using AI lately to correct my grammar and spelling, and forcing it to layer research based on reference points, this last post as you can guess was generated by layering several questions and consolidating bullet points then asking it to generate the final article at a university level short essay. I was to tired to completely right it, but was compelled to bring my concept across in a reasonable maner, so I tried pushing AI for the final result.
Although it appeared to do my bidding, I am wondering, if I become to reliant on its abilities, that my own writing will be compromised, yet learning to push it's immediate boundaries beyond its programmed naratives, and layer results of answers is time saving, and educational on my part. I'm hopping to bring added value to the table for the readers. But please let me know if you believe this is helpful or perhaps contrived, I am still not to sure how I feel about having AI doing more than expected will be benificial, or if this experiment could push the boundaries towards more insights and creativity. Let me know





"Thanks, Axj! I certainly don't want to come across sounding like a clever robot, even though I feel like the Borg is sucking me in on my weaker days."
 
It is probably around 95% my writing with corrections. This is the original before any tampering

I have been using AI lately to correct my grammar and spelling, and forcing it to layer research based on reference points, this last post as you can guess was generated by layering several questions and consolidating bullet points then asking it to generate the final article at a university level short essay. I was to tired to completely right it, but was compelled to bring my concept across in a reasonable maner, so I tried pushing AI for the final result.
Although it appeared to do my bidding, I am wondering, if I become to reliant on its abilities, that my own writing will be compromised, yet learning to push it's immediate boundaries beyond its programmed naratives, and layer results of answers is time saving, and educational on my part. I'm hopping to bring added value to the table for the readers. But please let me know if you believe this is helpful or perhaps contrived, I am still not to sure how I feel about having AI doing more than expected will be benificial, or if this experiment could push the boundaries towards more insights and creativ.

The later corrected version is a little better, so I would prefer to use it, and as a consequence I'm being given a free education in grammar and syntax!
 
Or were you referring to "I don't want to come across sounding like a clever robot" Which is ironic .lol
 
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